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Restriction on Veterinary Advice Given via Telemedicine Violates First Amendment
From yesterday's decision in Hines v. Pardue, by Fifth Circuit Judge Don Willett, joined by Judges Cory Wilson:
Dr. Ronald S. Hines is a retired, physically disabled, Texas-licensed veterinarian who enjoys spending his golden years giving online pet-care advice to animal lovers around the world—often for free. Dr. Hines does not physically examine animals, perform surgeries, apply casts, splints, or bandages, administer vaccinations, or prescribe prescription medication. He merely sends emails. This would be no problem if the patients were people instead of pets. For humans, Texas law allows telemedicine without first requiring a face-to-face examination to establish a physician-patient relationship. Not so with animals, which require an in-person visit. Exam-free telehealth, turns out, is fine for your Uncle Bernard, but not for your Saint Bernard.
No one ever complained about Dr. Hines's online pet-care advice or alleged that it harmed a single animal. However, because Dr. Hines does not physically examine animals before sharing his expertise, the State of Texas considered some of his emails criminal offenses, going so far as penalizing him with a year of probation, fining him $500, and forcing him to retake the jurisprudence section of the veterinary licensing exam….
Today, we uphold Dr. Hines's First Amendment rights. We specifically conclude that the State of Texas is directly regulating Dr. Hines's speech and that this regulation fails to survive even intermediate scrutiny….
First things first, we must determine what the physical-examination requirement primarily regulates. The State does not dispute that Dr. Hines's speech is implicated. It contends that the physical-examination requirement restricts Dr. Hines's speech incidentally to the general regulation of conduct. So, we consider whether the requirement regulates Dr. Hines's speech directly or only incidentally to the regulation of his conduct. On the one hand, all Dr. Hines does is send emails—pure speech. But on the other, the law regulates his speech as part of the practice of veterinary medicine. {We are mindful that under "[Supreme Court] precedents, [s]tates may regulate professional conduct, even though that conduct incidentally involves speech."} …
[C]ircuit courts have, until recently, applied the so-called professional-speech doctrine to licensing regulations like this one. These courts, including our own, treated laws regulating professionals' speech as a separate category from non-professional speech, entitling them to less protection and exempting them from traditional First Amendment scrutiny. The Supreme Court, however, rejected this doctrine in NIFLA v. Becerra (2018), and instructed courts to apply the "traditional conduct-versus-speech dichotomy." But "[a]s it stands today, the relevant First Amendment doctrine is a mind-numbing morass of tangled precedents developed in contexts very different from professional licensing."
The "notoriously foggy" speech-conduct dichotomy makes "finding the line between speech and conduct … not as simple as asking whether the prohibition is literally one against verbal or written 'speech,' on the one hand, or one against 'conduct' (i.e., nonverbal action) on the other." In as-applied challenges—especially those involving "generally applicable regulation[s] of conduct," such as the regulation here—a particular act constitutes protected speech, rather than unprotected conduct, if that act "consists of communicating a message."
For example, a generally applicable regulation proscribing breaching the peace regulated speech, rather than conduct, when an individual was arrested and convicted for wearing a jacket that said "F*** the Draft" inside a courthouse. The Supreme Court found the conviction to "clearly rest[ ] upon the asserted offensiveness of the words [the plaintiff ] used to convey his message to the public." Because "[t]he only 'conduct' which [California] sought to punish [wa]s the fact of communication," the Supreme Court applied First Amendment scrutiny and reversed the conviction.
In another (and more apt) example, a law proscribing support for "the humanitarian and political activities of" two designated terrorist organizations, which "generally function[ed] as a regulation of conduct," regulated speech because as "applied to [the] plaintiffs[,] the conduct triggering coverage under the statute consist[ed] of communicating a message"—individualized legal advice. As the court recognized, whether the plaintiffs could speak with designated terrorist organizations"depend[ed] on what they [said]" because the regulation barred certain forms of speech—including "speech to those groups [that] impart[ed] a 'specific skill' or communicate[d] advice derived from 'specialized knowledge.'"
Our goal then is to determine whether the physical-examination requirement primarily affects Dr. Hines's speech ("communication of a message") or his conduct by looking at what "trigger[s] coverage under the statute." …
The State contends that the law is primarily a conduct regulation because the definition of practicing veterinary medicine applies to a "set of skilled actions"—that is, conduct. But calling an act "speech" or "conduct" (or "actions") does not make it speech or conduct for First Amendment analysis. Indeed, the Supreme Court has been clear: "State labels cannot be dispositive of [the] degree of First Amendment Protection." It is a court's duty to consider a "restriction's effect, as applied, in a very practical sense"—not to follow whatever label a state professes. If courts were required to accept a governmental actor's speech-or-conduct designation, we would be compelled to forgo our solemn duty to "assess[ ] the First Amendment interest at stake and weigh[ ] it against the public interest allegedly served by the regulation." This means we must determine from the evidence, rather than the parties' labels, whether Dr. Hines's course of action involved speech.
The State identified Dr. Hines's provision of "individually tailored diagnostic services and veterinary medical advice for specific animals" as practicing veterinary medicine. Dr. Hines was penalized specifically for engaging in the practice of veterinary medicine without first establishing VCPRs [veterinarian-client-patient relationships] in person. But in detailing the specific acts that constituted the practice of veterinary medicine in violation of the physical-examination requirement, the State pointed to Dr. Hines's email exchanges in which he communicated individualized diagnoses and treatment plans with various animal owners.
For example, Dr. Hines was contacted by an owner whose bird had managed to remove a splint on its leg only a week after its placement by a local veterinarian. The bird owner, who was concerned that the bird's legs were crossing and that this might inhibit its mobility, attached a video of the bird to the email she sent Dr. Hines. Dr. Hines wrote back and informed the owner that a splint was necessary to ensure the bird's full recovery, and he instructed the owner on how to make a splint and how to apply and adjust it. The State concluded, based on the conclusions of its investigator and experts, that Dr. Hines had engaged in the practice of veterinary medicine without establishing a VCPR by communicating (via email) an individualized diagnosis and treatment plan to the bird owner.
Critically, not all of Dr. Hines's conduct was barred. Indeed, the State did not find Dr. Hines's review of the owner's email or video or the substance of his diagnosis and treatment plan violative of the physical-examination requirement; the State did not penalize Dr. Hines for viewing charts or considering different medical reports. And the State did not penalize him for applying a splint or administering medicine—nor could they. Instead, the State only penalized him for his communication with the owner about her bird in which he gave a diagnosis and treatment plan. In effect, the regulation only kicked in when Dr. Hines began to share his opinion with his patient's owner—as is the case with all of Dr. Hines's alleged violations of the physical-examination requirement. Because the act in which Dr. Hines engaged that "trigger[ed] coverage" under the physical-examination requirement was the communication of a message, the State primarily regulated Dr. Hines's speech.
The majority concurred that it need not decide whether the law was content-based or content-neutral, because it was unconstitutional even under the less demanding legal standard applicable to content-neutral speech restrictions. An excerpt:
The State's defense of the physical-examination requirement focuses exclusively on its interest in animal welfare…. [But] the State has failed to show that the alleged harms to animal welfare in the context of the physical-examination requirement are real.
The State alleges that the physical-examination requirement protects animal welfare by reducing the risk that veterinarians will misdiagnose—and thereby harm—animals. In other words, the harm the State seeks to address is misdiagnosis by veterinarians who conduct telemedicine without first performing a physical exam….
Before the district court, the State relied on a literature review conducted by Dr. Teller. The State does not press this evidence before us now, likely because the review didn't find any evidence of actual harm. It found "no published reports of veterinarians providing inadequate or substandard care via virtual care." And it found no "studies comparing in clinic visits with telehealth visits to determine if there is concordance between the findings of those exams." Although it mentions "risks of missed diagnoses" as a "concern[ ]," a hypothetical concern—even if seemingly significant—is insufficient to identify a "real harm."
[The expert witnesses'] anecdotes fare no better….
The State has effectively proven that veterinarians believe that a physical exam is helpful and that telemedicine should be used only as a follow up to the in-person exam. Indeed, a physical exam seems to be a plus factor to a veterinarian's analysis—a check for physical ailments or physical manifestations of ailments that may not be readily apparent to a pet's owner. These are risks that an individual knowingly chooses to forego by choosing a telemedicine appointment for their animal.
But proving that a physical examination is helpful is not enough. The State has failed to meet its burden of proving that misdiagnoses from telemedicine are a real harm in this case. The State emphasizes that the physical exam reduces the risk of misdiagnosis from telemedicine without an exam and argues that it can enact prophylactic rules before the harm occurs. Both are true, and the State's interest in reducing misdiagnoses is legitimate. But the State cannot meet its burden of proving real harm by pointing to "risks" of harm—or hypothetical concerns—that, according to the evidence, have never materialized….
Even if the harms alleged by the State were real, as the State contends, the law suffers from a fatal defect: The State fails to prove that the law "alleviate[s] these harms in a direct and material way."
The first problem with the State's chosen means is apparent on the face of the statute itself. There are two ways a vet can establish the VCPR, and one of them doesn't require a physical exam at all. To recap, a veterinarian must first establish a VCPR before practicing veterinary medicine. The VCPR exists "if the veterinarian: … possesses sufficient knowledge of the animal." And "[a] veterinarian possesses sufficient knowledge of the animal … if the veterinarian has recently seen, or is personally acquainted with, the keeping and care of the animal by: (1) examining the animal; or (2) making medically appropriate and timely visits to the premises on which the animal is kept." But the VCPR cannot "be established solely by telephone or electronic means."
The State does not explain how the law alleviates the harm of misdiagnoses from telemedicine without a physical exam when the VCPR can also be established by a visit to the premises without a physical exam. Although the State's experts testified that the premises-visit option is typically used for herd animals, she conceded it is not so limited, testifying that the "premises" visited "could be the premises on which a dog is kept." Nor does the plain text provide this limitation. And furthermore, the State fails to explain why a "recent[ ]" physical examination—which has no definition—is sufficient to establish a VCPR. For example, why would a "recent" physical examination in the last year or two provide any better insight into an animal's condition than a real-time telehealth appointment without a preceding physical examination?
If that weren't enough, the State's looser approach to human welfare undercuts the State's insistence on a physical exam to advance animal welfare. After all, the State of Texas allows exam-free telemedicine for babies and noncommunicative adults—those who, like animals, cannot communicate with their physicians. How can the State insist a hands-on exam is necessary to protect animals while conceding a hands-on exam is unnecessary to protect humans? Put differently, why does Texas mandate tougher telehealth rules for veterinarians treating animals than for physicians treating people? The State does not say….
Judge Irma Carrillo Ramirez concurred, arguing that the "the physical examination requirement, as applied to [Hines], is a content-based speech restriction that does not survive strict scrutiny"; a short excerpt:
Here, it is the interaction between the PER [physical examination requirement] and the statutory definition of practicing veterinary medicine as applied to Dr. Hines that he challenges as a content-based restriction on his speech. To determine whether Dr. Hines engaged in the practice of veterinary medicine, the State examined his words. Where Dr. Hines's communications conveyed general information regarding veterinary care that was not tailored to a specific animal, the State found that Dr. Hines had not engaged in the practice of veterinary medicine. Where he had communicated veterinary-care information tailored to a specific animal, however, the State drew the opposite conclusion….
[E]ven assuming arguendo that the PER is content neutral under City of Austin v. Reagan National Advertising (2022) and Ward v. Rock Against Racism (1989), it may nevertheless be content based under McCullen v. Coakley (2014). A law may be facially content neutral yet content based in application….
Andrew Heller Ward and Jeff Rowes (Institute for Justice) represent Hines.
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Opinion: "After obtaining his veterinary license in 1966"
The state hoped the plaintiff would die of old age in the decade the case spent in the federal courts.
Just wondering -- does he have any continuing education requirements?
You know, "Dr" Ed 2, there is this Invention called the Internets, and on this Invention you can look things up.
So in a total of about 10 seconds I was able to find
"Texas veterinary medical continuing education requirements:
DVMs must obtain 17 hours of continuing education annually.
USDA Category I accredited veterinarians need to complete three units of supplemental training, while USDA Category II accredited veterinarians must complete six units of training every three years."
Now if it's anything like Human Continuing Medical Ed-Jew-ma-Cation, you can do 17 hours online in about an hour, (30 minutes if you're really good)
Frank
You complained about it, but still acted as his personal assistant.
Good work, Nurse Frank
when you get that extra jab, I gave an extra 50 Shekels to the Legionnaire with the Spear
O wow, this is just wildly dumb all around.
All around? What is dumb about the vet winning the case?
The notion that the state can’t regulate his profession because his job involves talking.
They can regulate his profession. Just not the talking.
Telemedicine for most things is inferior to live medicine. And that's all the more true for veterinary medicine, where the patient can't tell the Dr. what's wrong and what it's feeling.
Yes, the untrained human wouldn't have known the splint had fallen off if it were not for the veterinarian's personal inspection. Untrained humans are such a pox on society.
Well, that's the theory. They seem to be having problems demonstrating it.
On the other hand, it’s also much more convenient, especially if it’s also free.
Why shouldn’t the pet owners be the ones to decide how to strike the balance?
Right. Most purchasing decisions involve weighing quality, convenience, and price. The state offered no compelling reason why consumers couldn’t weigh costs and benefits here but should be forced to go for the highest-quality, most expensive, and least convenient option.
Well, it couldn’t come up with a reason that didn’t equally apply to humans, which is why the state’s side of this story is also wildly dumb.
re: "Telemedicine ... is inferior to live medicine."
Can you prove it? I ask because the State, with both virtually unlimited resources and incentive, was unable to do so.
But even if you can prove it, what give you the right to make that choice for everyone else?
The fact that someone who isn’t trained in veterinary medicine is in no position to judge the quality of the veterinary medical services they just received, aka the same reason why we regulate all other professions.
Sarcasm?
So few younger doctors know how to do a physical exam, take a history, that even the live medicine might as well be done over the phone. Ask any M.D./DO/PA (and don't even get me started on NP's) what an Appley or McMurray (might as well be talking about Fred McMurray who they don't know either) Brudzinski's, Murphy's sign, is and you might as well be speaking Swahili, it's "Get an MRI/Refer to a Specialist"
Gas Passers probably do more of a physical than 95% of Family Docs, because if you have Aortic Stenosis, you're not gonna handle Propofol very well,
OK, that's about it, and we do usually have you open your mouth and extend your neck, listen to your lungs, but with my Diverse background (some would say Perverse) I get lots of "Curbside Consults" from hospital staff who don't want the hassle (and co-pay) of seeing some chucklehead with a bunch of clicks and glottal stops in his/her name.
Frank
Dr. Hines is not engaging in abstract advocacy. He is often advising/instructing people to do specific things to a specific animal. So if the professional speech is to be abolished as its own category, abstract advocacy precedents such as Cohen v. California bear little resemblance to the situation at hand. The better analogy, I tentatively suggest, is crime-facilitating speech precedents.
A very direct application of the analogy would be to ask the question, “Is Dr. Hines instructing people to do things that can legally only be done by or at the direction of a veterinarian?” If the answer is yes, then I tentatively suggest the regulation should be upheld. Because Texas is entitled to define standards of conduct veterinarians must follow before they do only things veterinarians can do or prescribe, I think it follows under crime-facilitation doctrine that they have to follow those standards before they can advise others to do those things. So, for example, because I think Texas can require examining a patient before doing things like prescribing a drug, I think it can require examining a patient before recommending use of a controlled sunstance that the patient happens to otherwise have.
But I suspect most general advice would not involve doing things that are specifically limited to veterinarians. So Dr. Hines would have a right to give the advice in those cases.
This approach would require a case by case, as-applied analysis, asking, for each email, whether the activity recommended could legally be done or authorized by a non-veterinarian.
The regulation would be facially constitutional. But nonetheless, it would have a significantly narrower reach than a flat prohibition on giving any advice without examing the patient. That reach, although narrow, might possibly still be broad enough to cover some portion of Dr. Hines’ advice.
Such fine legal analysis there.
Which of course mere civilians are incapable of. It requires the superb talents of lawyers, judges, and prosecutors. Mere civilians are such ignernt hicks, far too dumb to figger out such difficulties on their own, with their poor pea brains uninformed by years of law school and law libraries full of precedent and who knows, probably 10 years of vet school and residency.
It is such a relief to have towering intellects saving us from ourselves, toiling away, day after day, for such miserable pittances.
Are you just trolling for the fun of it? If not, why do you believe “mere civilians” can’t figure out what kinds of advice could be given by non-veterinarians and what kinds implicate things only veterinarians are allowed to do? Distinctions like this are made in the law all the time, and “ordinary civilians” are expected to be able to make them.
Do you think veterinarians are especially stupid?
No. I think lawyers are especially greedy and vindictive for abrogating unto themselves sole ownership of the means of justice. They care far more about their billable hours than justice, and the rituals they have surrounded themselves with are proof.
The fact that you can't understand my entire point, that the law should just butt out, shows how out of touch you are with anything approaching justice, if it interferes with the right of lawyers to stick their noses into everything.
If Texas allows medical practice for humans, without a physical meeting, then surely it’s hard to argue requiring one for medical practice on non-humans.
Look at how unfair that is. In Texas, fat stupid Democrats have to go see their vet first before getting the advantage of telemedicine, while normal people, like me, don’t have to do that before seeing a Dr.
Because Texas is a well known redoubt of Democratic politicians.
/s because we're all having trouble with the sarcasm today.
If a vet instructs a non vet to “do things that can only be done legally by a vet” that’s illegal whether the communication is remote or in person. The statute at issue here has nothing to do with that scenario and a vet can still be punished for doing that even with this statute stuck down.
It’s illegal for a doctor to direct a patient on how to perform brain surgery on herself. If a doctor does that via teledoc, it’s still illegal. The fact that teledoc visits generally are legal is irrelevant.
Other than prescribing medicine (which the article explicitly said wasn't happening), what precisely do you think is legal for a vet to do to your pet but illegal for you to do yourself?
I would recommend that the judges who want to abolish professional speech restrictions entirely and treat professional speech exactly like abstract advocacy put their money where their mouth is by agreeing to fly in a home-made airplane designed by somebody who hasn’t conducted any safety tests. After all, designs are just speech, right? And the government has no right to impose safety or quality restrictions before allowing people to speak, no matter how much that speech affects others.
And what about page limit and typography restrictions on briefs? Judges restrict others’ speech all the time. What right do they have to do so?
Yes, wouldn't want that injured bird to fall out of the sky and demolish a school, now would we? That's exactly the same as unsafe airplanes.
And document lengths and typography are entirely irrelevant to anything, so let them dastardly lawyers submit them in 1 point fonts.
Yessireee that's some mighty fine reasoning there Lou.
Surely you aren't suggesting that the unqualified 1A "shall make no law" language should be interpreted to allow reasonable regulation of speech that would, if left unregulated, result in many schoolchildren's deaths?
That would be... mighty close to suggesting that the not-at-all unqualified 2A "shall not be abridged" language should be interpreted to allow regulation of firearms that would, if left unregulated, result in many schoolchildren's deaths.
A quick look about the planet, and at human history, shows all your blather is vastly more likely to be abused getting in the way of productive people, as part of corruption.
It’s so bad, one is safe defining it as the primary problem of history.
You seek to justify it arguing the plum awfulness of problems that’re about 0.01% as large as the powers you love cause in practice. This sentiment is abused by the corruptions to mislead you and get you on their side so they can have that power so they can abuse it.
Oddly, tangential memes inform you are a good person for agreeing to all this.
My point in my second comment is simply that if judges want to use general First Amendment principles designed for abstract advocacy, strike down rules restricting “professional speech” in other contexts, they ought to be willing to apply the same principles to give up their own speech-restricting rules.
In general, I’m simply arguing from what the First Amendment requires and what it doesn’t. I’m saying that what Texas is doing is wise or good policy, only that think that even without a special “professional speech” standard, general First Amendment principles would permit it in some although far from all circumstances. If, as a libertarian, you think professional rules and restrictions are simply devices for corruption and should be done away with entirely, you’re free to take it up with your legislature. But the wisdom and policy of economic and social legislation is no business of the courts.
There have many, many people in history who’ve argued that legislatures are inherently corrupt and having them in charge only leads to corruption, and who say they can do things much better. There’s a word for these kinds of people. They’re called “dictators.”
Sorry, I’m NOT saying that what Texas is doing is wise or good policy.
methinks the opening sentence left off Judge Ramirez.
As I read Judge Ramirez's opinion, she didn't agree with the majority on the law failing intermediate scrutiny, though she concluded that the law had to be judged under strict scrutiny and failed under that standard. On the other hand, I appreciate that her opinion was labeled "concurring" rather than "concurring in the judgment," which in many courts (I'm not sure about the Fifth Circuit) is a signal that the judge does go along with the majority opinion. Are there some details I'm missing here?
I think it’s just that you wrote, “Judges”.
I'm all for expressive conduct.
But choosing to work remotely isn't expressive! I don't see any 1A nexus at all.
And I don't see a lot of argument for such in the excerpts above.
Is "experessive" the key to be out from under the boot of censorship?
Wait. This came up in a different thread the past few days. Ah, well. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good folk to sit there.
A quick look at history shows politicians should be heavily regulated on what they say, as their words have lead to untold misery and delays in progress to the human conditon. Corruption and the agglomeration of power through "expressive" words hardly seems worth it.
In short, We The People have a much greater case against politicians, than politicians have against everyone else.
Is it censorship if it’s not regulation expression?
I’m all for then policy argument this overregulation and the market will be fine at this.
But don’t commandeer the First for that shit.
"I don’t see any 1A nexus at all."
It's that they punished him for his speech.
Ah. Like planning a bank robbery is protected because it's speech.
That could be a nexus. But here he wasn't planning a bank robbery.
The question I have is if he were to write a book — “66 years as a vet, animal care for the pet owner” — in which he outlined these things.
Or wrote a textbook for young vets (but sold it openly). That might be the real test and as medical textbooks are legal to write and sell (to anyone), Texas doesn’t have a case.
Remember Dr. Kavorkian who wrote the how-to book for suicide back in the '80s,. "final exit." They couldn't touch him for that.
I also remember the PGP flap of the 1990s, when publishing crypto software freaked out the establishment so much. Aside from Clinton's Clipper chip to be mandated in every computer, with the justification that mere software wasn't fast enough to do what it was already doing, there was the difficulty of violating ITAR by sending that crypto software overseas digitally.
So they printed easily diassembled books of the source code in an OCR font, sent the books overseas (First Amendment!), ripped the books apart, scanned them, compared the scans, and voilá! a legally exported version of what had already leaked countless times illegally.
Just another Stupid Government Trick.
Didn't he also hold up a proposed Internet access card for everybody, during a State of the Union?
The idiotic denoument 30 years later is all you have is pseudo-anonymity, as all you are is a name, an IP address, a phone number, keys into innumerable advertising databases with analysis of everything you click on or type. In some sense "who" you are is irrelevant. You are sold off as beating heart with estimated income range and interests in 74 different things.
Hehe, "name". How quaint.
The key distinction here is between abstract advocacy and solicitation – offering or advising in a specific context when one intends the advisee to act on it. So a general textbook would be protected by the First Amendment.
A noted exception is the book Hit Man, a detailed textbook on contract killing which included commentary essays on the attractions of the lifestyle, which was found not protected after multiple people followed the book’s specific guidance and families of murder victims sued. But the exception created to permit Hit Man to be found liable is quite narrow, and wouldn’t include things like veterinary textbooks.
The key distinction for almost everybody but government bureaucrats, which includes every lawyer, is individualism vs Statism.
I’m sure you’d love Adolf Hitler. Got rid of all those greedy, corrupt politicians and their stupid laws and said that the law is what I say it is. Great guy. Had the same general tone you have in verbally smashing down everything he thought was stupid and bad and corrupt and evil. And he thought a whole lot of folks were, just like you. Great guy. You’d get along with him swell.
Sounds like you’d really love to live in an “individualistic” country with all those stupid, corrupt, greedy politicians, lawyers, etc. etc. etc. put away and a guy like him in charge.
Not really a fan of Hitlers work, especially his 1933-1945 period, but the VW Bug was a great car(well it was slow, unsafe, hot in the summer, cold in the winter, but you could fix it with panty hose and chewing gum) and the “Common Sense Gun Laws” the DemoKKKrats are always supporting come straight from the Nazi Grundgesetz, they were Socialists fur cryin out loud
Frank
Had a few Vets in my med school class, envied them because they breezed through Anatomy/Physiology/Biochem, and could make extra money doing Spay/Neuters in the Basic Science Labs (my first Anesthetics were given to Cats/Dogs/Rabbits) Didn't even consider Auburn's Vet School, it was tougher to get into than Med School and sick animals are depressing, sick people? meh, they're people
Frank
Are there other speech precedents for finding studies demonstrating risk as opposed to studies demonstrating harms to be insufficient in supporting a State's regulations?
Human history is replete with charismatics yelping speech is dangerous to The People.
Eugene Volokh is cited by the concurrence:
see also Eugene Volokh, Speech as Conduct: Generally Applicable Laws, Illegal Courses of Conduct, “Situation-Altering Utterances,” and the Uncharted Zones, 90 Cornell L. Rev. 1277, 1286–94 (2005) (discussing “content-based as applied” laws).
BTW, note the court of appeals here argues SCOTUS precedent requires the result. Given current law, this very well might be both wrong (in a vacuum) and right (on the law). I leave it to others to determine how that comes out.
I don’t think that approach is consistent with this from NIFLA on why the informed consent requirement in Casey remained permissible in spite of NIFLA:
It seems clear that the informed consent requirement required doctors to communicate a message. SCOTUS nonetheless endorsed the requirement as constitutional. Wouldn’t the telehealth prohibition also regulate speech only as part of the practice of medicine?
The court took the question to include whether providing individual advice over the Internet to a pet owner about things that the pet owner could legally do was "the practice of medicine", and answered in the negative.
I’ll just point out that under my proposed professional conduct facilitating speech analogy to crime-facilitation speech, the state can regulate this. The state can require that abortion be performed only by physicians, making abortion specifically and exclusively professional conduct. So speech related ro abortion in the context of a patient seeking one is speech in a specifically professional context, distinct from general medical advice that anyone could potentially give. So under my proposed distinction, the state has greater authority to regulate speech connected to it, again in the specific context of a patient seeking one as distinct from general advocacy or general advice.
As I see it, under the proposed distinction, if the veterinarian gave general advice about animal care, the fact he happens to be a veterinarian doesn’t reduce his first amendment rights. But if he advices something that only a veterinarian can do, then the state is within its rights to regulate. For example, if he advised giving an animal a controlled drug to treat a particular condition, I think the state would be within its rights to require a visit and a physical examination first. Only veterinanrians can legally direct people to use controlled drugs to treat specific animals, so the speech involved is specifically professional conduct facilitating speech.