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9/11/2001 in Staten Island, New York
My annual remembrance of September 11, 2011
I post this essay every year in honor of September 11th, 2001 (see 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023).
Every generation has a defining moment. For my generation, it was 9/11/2001.
Here are my memories of 9/11/2001. It was a Tuesday.
I was a Senior at Staten Island Technical High School, which is about 20 miles from ground zero. We were about 1 week into the school year. I was sitting in Ms. Endriss's 2nd Period A.P. Political Science class. We were going over some NYC Public School discipline policy, and discussing what kinds of weapons were forbidden in schools (brass knuckles were a no-no). A student walked into the classroom late. He had heard a rumor that a Cessna airplane had hit the World Trade Center. A girl in my class exclaimed that her father worked in the World Trade Center. I could see the look of fear in her eyes, even though none of us had any clue what was going on. She wanted to call her dad. I was the only student in the class with a cell phone, which I promptly gave her. The call did not go through–he worked on one of the upper floors of the tower, and passed away.
We finished second period, apprehensively. I logged onto a computer, and attempted to check the news. I recall one friend told me to check MTV.com for news. At that point, the reports were unclear, and no one knew what was going on. We proceeded to 3rd period A.P. Calculus with Mr. Curry. At that point, someone told us that it was not a Cessna, but in fact a passenger jet. We were all getting nervous, and didn't quite know what was going on. Later in class, a student came into the class and said a second plane had crashed into the other tower. We also heard that there was an explosion at the Pentagon. At that point, we knew it was not an accident.
I remember leaving the class (something I never did) and walked up to the library where I knew there was a T.V. Just as I arrived in the library, I saw the first tower collapse. I watched it live. I was stunned and could not believe what was happening before my eyes. I grabbed my cellphone to call home, and almost immediately after the tower collapsed, I lost all service. I was not able to call my mom in Staten Island, though I could call my dad who was working in Long Island. Long distance calls seemed to work, but local calls were not working. I remember my dad told me that this was a life-changing event, and he had no idea what would happen. I heard some rumors on TV that there were 15 planes that were hijacked, and unaccounted for in the skies.
By lunch time, the school guidance counselor set up a conference room where students could go to talk. I remember seeing student after student who had a family member or friend who worked in the World Trade Center or in Manhattan. A large number of firefighters and police officers reside in Staten Island. Tragically, many of the emergency responders who perished were from Staten Island. What could we even tell those students?
After that, the day become a blur. I remember hearing that the second tower had collapsed, though I did not see it. I remember watching the entire United States Congress sing God Bless America on the steps of the Capitol. I had never been so afraid in my life. Later that night, I took a bus home. The New York City public buses were still running, and I remember the driver was not collecting fares. On the bus, people were talking about the imminent war (against whom, no one knew) and the imminent draft. Some were saying that students were exempt from the draft.
The next morning, September 12, 2001, I woke up and smelled this horrible smell. The air had this pungent odor, that reminded me of burned flesh at a BBQ. I went to school that morning, and attendance was low. In all of my classes, we were talking about war. I asked whether the US would need to use nuclear weapons. My teacher explained that carpet bombing–a phrase I had never heard of–could wreak plenty of damage in Afghanistan. Later that week students began making sandwiches for the relief workers, and collecting goods to donate to the relief effort.
From Staten Island, I could see the smoldering Ground Zero. It was surreal. The skyline looked so very empty. To this day, whenever I look at the Skyline, a sight I had seen thousands of times, I have the most bizarre feeling. Additionally, whenever we saw an airplane fly overhead, we all freaked out. This lasted for months.
For days, weeks, and months after 9/11, people in Staten Island were waiting for their loved ones to come home. Many patients were alive, but were so badly burned that they could not be identified. People prayed that these unnamed patients would soon come home. One woman whose husband was a firefighter waited outside her home every single night for months. She eventually put a candle in her window every night. Later, she put a memorial lamp in her window. He never came home. Others were simply waiting for remains of their loved ones to be returned. Many were never identified.
I ordered a gas mask from eBay, which I kept in my car, fearing a biological weapon attack on New York City. I remember I tried it on once and I almost suffocated. I wanted to order some Cipro for an anthrax attack, but I could not locate any.
It is hard to encapsulate what a New Yorker went through on 9/11. Thinking back on that day, when I was just 17 years old, I realized that I had to grow up awfully quick. It was a new world we were living in.
Never forget. Ever.
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I was in midtown Manhattan when the towers fell.
One thing that remains in my memory is the horror of someone on the radio reporting one of the towers falling.
A sign that life went on was that I took the subway home later in the day. I passed a church that had many funerals in the following days. The streets nearby were strangely empty.
A touching memorial was established at the 14th Street/Union Square subway. The names of the people who died were put on the wall tiles. I was sad to see the names starting to peel off in later years. A photo can be found here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Street%E2%80%93Union_Square_station
As a New Yorker I remember that burnt-flesh smell well. It lasted months.
No, Josh, the world did not “change forever”. You did not have to “grow up fast”. I understand how traumatic it must have been for you. But this is all drama-queen bullshit.
9/11 should have been treated as a police matter. Find the bad guys and bring them to justice. Instead we got into a “global war on terror” and caused death and destruction that made 9/11 look trivial. We long ago lost any moral authority on this issue. We point to the 3000 dead that day and the world laughs at us for our self-centeredness and chutzpah. With good reason.
You asshole.
9-11 is sacred. No criticism allowed.
Arlington National Cemetery less so.
I won't say anything about his own reactions. It's personal.
One thing that I do think is that we should be somewhat humble. 9/11 was a horrible day. But, other nations suffer so much more, a few thousand dead is a drop in the bucket for them.
I also am somewhat amazed that we did not have more acts of terrorism. It would have been fairly easy for single actors to perform small acts of sabotage that could have put NYC in daily terror.
The important thing to remember is that it was a fantastic stroke of luck (luck for the terrorists; not so lucky for New York). It was a million-to-one shot and it "succeeded" because 1) normal procedures at Logan Airport were not followed 2) INS did not follow up on keeping suspected terrorists off planes 3) the Bush Administration did not take terrorism seriously and 4) it fired people just for being gay, including the guy who could have translated that "tomorrow is zero hour" email from the Arabic.
So, in your fevered imagination, if only George Bush hadn't fired that gay guy, apparently the only person who could translate Arabic, then this would have been avoided?
The fiction recommendation is in a different thread, idiot.
https://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/19/books/chapters/chapter-unfriendly-fire.html
There was criticism because of the 2000 dispute about Florida, that it somehow slowed down the Bush administration so that they couldn't do anything about 9/11, although the Clinton administration gave intelligence briefings to Bush's transition team even before it was settled. But at least Bush heard the intelligence report about Bin Laden's determination to strike in the US before blowing it off. (Not even to mention subsequently using it as an excuse to pursue a disastrous war in Iraq.)
By contrast, after the 2020 election was clearly decided in November, the Trump administration did everything it could to block Biden's transition (not even counting the insurrection) despite a pandemic that was killing people in numbers greater than 9/11 and the need to plan to distribute the vaccine.
IIRC, Clinton, right before he left office, and seemingly out of the blue, ordered missile strikes on training camps in Afghanistan. So his administration was at least cognizant of Al Qaeda's shenanigans. Whether W then dropped the ball on that group, I don't know. But I don't think any amount of intelligence could have uncovered the 9-11 plot. It was that good
He bombed a site in 1998, missing bin Laden by a few hours. It was criticized as a "wag the dog" tactic, to distract us from the true threat to the country, those stains on Monica Lewinsky's dress.
Yes, I remember the Limbaugh republicans giving him shit for the missile strikes. So in hindsight would they now give him props? Yeah, no. Party over country and all that stuff
"But I don’t think any amount of intelligence could have uncovered the 9-11 plot. It was that good."
No, not really. They had specific warnings, which they didn't exactly blow off, but they did fail to be aggressive enough in looking for confederates.
I was more irate about his bombing that pharmaceutical plant. (No, NOT an "aspirin factory") That was totally gratuitous, and a humanitarian disaster.
And what would George Bush have done if he, personally, knew that "tomorrow is the day" and believed it?
Can you imagine if he'd ordered those 19 arrested? Or even told the airlines not to let them aboard?
He'd been impeached in a week.
People seem to forget that in the direct aftermath, some asshole started sending anthrax all over the country putting the whole nation back into bewilderment. And then, less than a year later, commeth the DC Sniper. For a whole year we seemed to be at the mercy of unstoppable terrorists. That year was like a fever dream
As Joe points out, it's not possible for the gov't to prevent individual crazy persons from committing small acts of terrorism, and like Joe, I'm surprised it hasn't happened more often.
The supply of individual crazy persons (In that narrow window between "crazy enough to do it" and "too crazy to accomplish it") is actually more limited than most people realize.
Do you eat out Representative Mullah Omar with that mouth?
"No Josh, your recollections, thoughts, and feelings are just you being a drama queen."
What a dick.
“burnt-flesh smell”
I’m sorry— but no.
Captcrisis -- I personally saw undergrads grow up fast that week.
We should have responded with nukes.
So, tomorrow the pro-Hamas student groups are having a day of rage. Even they realized it wasn't smart to schedule it today, but 9-11 will always have a special place in their hearts, so they went for tomorrow.
Anyone want to bet they start early?
I lived in Michigan back in 2001. Nobody I knew was directly involved, none of the attacks happened near me. It was shocking, but not personal.
Any replication of the 9-11 attack became infeasible that very day; Since then anybody who tried hijacking an American plane would risk being torn limb from limb by passengers, the only reason it worked once was that air passengers had been trained to not resist hijackers. Flight 93 demonstrated what would happen to hijackers once that trained apathy was overcome.
In November of that year I flew to San Francisco for a robotics competition. I remember being astounded by the level of security theater. Not real security, theater. Real security measures, such as arming flight crews, were subject to enormous political resistance. Instead of measures to make flight safe, we got measures to make people THINK flying was being made safe.
And we got a major step in the advance of the American police state: The creation of "Homeland Security" and innovations like the "No-Fly list".
And we were told that the real threat of 9-11 wasn't Islamic terror, but instead a hypothetical backlash against peaceful Muslims.
It was all very depressing. I still find it depressing.
…and nothing has changed.
See something, say something and wind up with an FBI file on you.
It's cute that you think security measures were/are readily visible and identifiable.
A lot of security is done in the background or is concealed.
If you can see security measures then so can the trained bad guys.
There absolutely was a lot of theater going on. I don't like security theater.
The armed pilots program got systematically sabotaged by the Bush administration. (Hope you didn't think I thought the problem was partisan!)
We got several programs instituted which were clear civil liberties violations, and they're still ongoing.
Was stuff going on in the background I didn't see? I expect so. I really disliked the stuff I DID see.
Apedad, it is GOOD thing that the bad guys sere the security.
Take Banks. They put visible bars on the windows. They painted "Vault Alarm" in big letters on the vault alarm bolted to the side of the building. They WANTED that seen.
Armed pilots would be visible. Harassing nuns is stupid.
Do not forget that Sept 10-14, 2001 was "Palestinian Awareness Week", with demonstrations on the 10th.
Was in the Hospital Cafeteria when the first Jet hit, listening to the Idiots who thought it was an "Accident". Thought that even with "W" in Orifice the response would be limited to some Tomahawks, some airstrikes, a strongly worded letter, little did I know.
*I* thought it was an accident because on July 28, 1945, a B-25 Mitchell bomber *had* accidentally hit the Empire State Building.
All we initially knew was a "2 engine plane" and I thought large passenger planes had at least three.
It was humid in Amherst (MA), and I presumed that could be fog down to NYC on the ocean. When I heard about a second plane hitting (this was on the radio) I presumed an ATC clusterfuck.
When they mentioned the Pentagon also having a fire by the helo pad, then I knew something was up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1945_Empire_State_Building_B-25_crash
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Josh Blackman's "remembrance" of September 11th.
This is dumb. Even for you.
What do you think a personal recollection is?
"I post this essay every year in honor of September 11th, 2001"
In honor of his own narcissism perhaps, but not of September 11th.
You probably shouldn't call other people dumb when you can't get to 4 from 2+2.
You could have just said "no, I don't know what a personal recollection is" or you could just explain how you're forced to read this every year, against your will.
"I post this essay every year in honor of September 11th, 2001"
It is not posted in honor of September 11th. It is posted in honor of his own narcissism. I am not surprised that you're too stupid to recognize the difference.
I don't recall stating that I was forced to read this every year, so I'll just go ahead and attribute that work of fiction to the diminishing cluster of down-syndrome cells you call a brain.
Dude, eat breakfast.
You'll feel better.
Josh turned his back on NYC almost immediately after 9/11 and hasn’t had a meaningful association with the city or state for his entire academic and professional career. He has no right to continue to invoke it, much less pollute this blog with copy-pasta, year after year, like we give a shit what he has to say about it.
Texas is his home now, physically and in spirit. Let him go weep over an oil rig.
LOL!
How DARE you, Josh!
You have no right, sir! No right!
You sound particularly angry at being forced to read this every year.
Is he in the room with you right now?
No, he's not in the room with me right now. Because I'm in NYC, and he is not.
I'm in Michigan.
Am I allowed to remember that day or does your unhinged vitriol extend to everybody not currently sitting their ass down in NYC?
Every American alive that day has their own story. Only New Yorkers with a personal stake in the events of that day have any entitlement to respect for their commemorations.
Like I said. Josh was a child in Staten Island when it happened. He had no apparent personal connection via friends or family to the attacks. He was about as far from the events of that day as you can possibly be and still be "in NYC." And then, like I said - he went off to college in another state, law school in another state, and his entire career since then has been outside of New York.
This is basically like Walz claiming he's carried weapons of war and served in the military for 24 years.
As an example of conservatives being motivated by prejudice more than by rationality, the "anti-terrorism" measures taken after 9/11 were overwhelmingly opposed by New Yorkers -- who unlike most conservatives lived near terrorist targets (to state the obvious).
Two amazing things:
1. You wrote this.
2. You pushed Submit.
You, and a couple of others here, are so far down the I Hate Josh Blackman rabbit hole that you probably can't even see how unhinged you are. And whoever you are, you're not the guy who gets to hand out who is entitled or not entitled to respect for their commemorations. That's just weird. As I've subtly alluded to earlier, you and others are not required to read anything that anybody, including Blackman, writes. The fact that he makes you so upset that you can't even read what he writes about his memory of this day without being an asshole says it's you, not him, with the problem here.
Josh is a piece of shit. He's the only VC contributor I would describe that way. He doesn't deserve a single ounce of respect - not for his vapid "scholarship," compiled from the rote grunt work of the research assistants his law school pays for; not for his second-fiddle collaboration with stronger scholars like Tillman and Barnett; not for his miseducation of law students at a fourth-tier law school or high school students unaware of his reputation; not for his ever-growing number of media appearances and blurbs fed to clueless journalists without the background to recognize him as a hack; not for his frequent blogging and snarky commentary about the judiciary; not for his traitorous contributions to Project 2025 or efforts to engage in lawfare on behalf of conservative legal causes; not for his culture-only embrace of his Jewish heritage for performative purposes; and certainly not for invoking the solemn memory of 9/11 using the slightest of personal connections, to draw attention to himself.
Josh is a braggart, a narcissist, a hack, and a fraud. He deserves and should get exactly the same kind of treatment that Trump deserves.
It’s why the “never forget, ever” line is so stupid and fake. Anyone with any kind of meaningful connection to NYC most assuredly had not forgotten anything about that terrible day. Self-aggrandizing and performative doesn’t even begin to describe it. Staten Island is part of NYC technically— but in that sense alone.
No True Scotsman!
Who is this guy to opine?
Why, he's from Staten Island and can barely lay claim to the events of that day!
The nerve!
It's like anorexia with you people.
Everybody sees it but you.
You misapprehend. Anyone with a personal connection to this day wouldn’t need to be reminded to “never forget” regardless of where they were located.
No true NewYorker can resist a Staten Island dig every now and again
Oh, boy.
I'm not a clinician, but maybe decaf would be a good place to start. You are not well.
I feel like if you found out that Blackman jaywalked or didn't put his cart in the cart corral after shopping we may enter into manifesto territory here. Anyway, I hope you're able to find that joy everybody is talking about lately. It would appear that you could use some.
I AM PERFECTLY JOYFUL
You're being a jackass. Everyone in the metro area knew victims, or knew people who knew victims. And knew people who were in the towers who survived, or who were in lower Manhattan at the time. We knew people who were missing, who were later declared dead, or who we thought were dead but were eventually located, after having been stranded somewhere and no way to contact us.
Everyone in the metro area knew victims, or knew people who knew victims.
And yet, Josh can't bring himself to mention a single personal connection to the site.
I wasn't living in NYC at the time. But I had, the year prior, stayed for a week with a family living in Croton-on-Hudson. One day, while staying with them, the father brought me into the city to his workplace, which happened to be in the WTC. We took Metro-North into the train station at the site, took the elevator up to his floor, took a brief tour, and then let me on my way to discover NYC on my own.
Even I can manufacture that connection. Josh can only vaguely suggest that some of the first responders who died that day probably lived on Staten Island.
You asshole, too.
You can spare me your feigned piety, Bumbler.
"A girl in my class exclaimed that her father worked in the World Trade Center. I could see the look of fear in her eyes, even though none of us had any clue what was going on. She wanted to call her dad. I was the only student in the class with a cell phone, which I promptly gave her. The call did not go through–he worked on one of the upper floors of the tower, and passed away."
"I remember seeing student after student who had a family member or friend who worked in the World Trade Center or in Manhattan."
Right, not a single personal connection.
"A friend of mine's father died" is a personal connection. It's the sort of connection large numbers of people in the NY metro area have.
Chip, a number of my colleagues had a direct personal connection to Hamas's attack on Israel last October. One of them was in Israel at the time and had to stage his family's return to the states while movement in the immediate aftermath was restricted. I myself have no personal connection to Israel, but witnessing the ordeal my colleagues were going through helped to bring the attacks home to me in a way that wouldn't have been the case otherwise.
Do I have a "personal connection" to that attack? Or, rather, would an attempt to draw a connection via the way my colleagues' traumatic experiences impacted me come off as an incredibly cynical and solipsistic pull of focus?
No Simon -- he was there, Walz didn't go.
I regularly criticize Blackman for his solipsism, but that criticism is misplaced here. There's nothing wrong with an occasional post about one's experiences, and 9/11 is the ultimate "I remember where I was when…" for people of a certain generation.
And it's not like there's something new or interesting to say about 9/11. Frankly, the commenters in this thread who decided to make it about partisan politics are behaving far more inappropriately than Blackman.
I was working in Pittsburgh for a lighting company. I was finishing the "as built" drawings for a project that we had just shipped. Ironically it was to be installed in the Mall on the subway level between the Towers. We heard that a small plane had hit one of the Towers. Then a bit later we heard that it was an airliner. About that time the second plane hit. We couldn't get video over the internet but, we were able to get a local radio station. When the towers collapsed, I looked at my Boss and asked if I should finish the drawings? About that time we heard that a plane was heading for Pittsburgh (Flight 97) and that there was a voluntary evacuation going on. Most of the people left, but, I decided to stay where I was because traffic was going to suck. I left at 4 PM my normal time. It was like something from a movie. Usually at 4 PM it was bumper to bumper traffic across the Highland Park Bridge. I was the only car on the bridge. I heard a roar, looked up as two F-15's with a full weapons load out, flew up the Allegheny River. I didn't see the video of the collapse until I got home.
I later found out that Flight 97 was flying a radial off of the Elwood City VOR towards Washington DC. That radial took it directly over where I worked, triggering the evacuation of Pittsburgh. Exactly one week later to the minute I would have been at a breakfast at the Top o' the World restaurant at the WTC. We were going there to check on the installation of the lights at the WTC and then we were getting an award for a project we had done at JFK airport.
Saudi Arabia delenda est.
Then there is the weird fact that the Bush Administration on 9/12 allowed bin Laden family members to fly home when every other airplane in the country was grounded. Unfortunately it was considered sacrilegious to criticize the Bush Administration over anything having to do with 9/11.
As I recall, they actually caught a lot of shit over stuff having to do with 9/11, in conservative circles. Not so much in GOP establishment circles.
It was the activists who loathed him.
The clearest blue sky that morning and then smoke covering lower Manhattan.
“Never forget. Ever.”
As someone who was much closer to the towers than I care to recall that day, let me assure you that the above haranguing is completely, 100%, unnecessary. I remember it just fine.
I was in mid-town, walking up 43rd street when I heard the first plane go in; I will never forget that sound. Or the reverberations.
I had the occasion of being witness to prisoner processing at the Fed's Oklahoma con-air hub about two months after 9-11. Apparently the Feds had been dragnetting every stray Arab in the country and their presence at the facility was unmistakable. Each of them were strapped to Hannibal Lector dollies with hockey masks, just like in the movie. So toxic were muslims at the time that the BOP wasn't taking any precautions. It was most interesting.
I had worked late the day before and so hadn’t left home yet to go to the office. My wife was at a client site in north Jersey, and called me after the first plane hit and told me to turn on the TV. The Internet of course was still in its toddler years — no social media! — and so she was having trouble getting news. After the second plane hit, she decided to come home.
I was watching tv, but still on the phone with her while she was in the car, and she had just told me that she had a friend/co-worker at a job near the top of Tower 2… and then I watched it collapse. (Like just about everyone above the floors where the planes struck, that friend was one of the victims.)
And afterwards, what still strikes my wife and I was that for three days, on every single tv and cable channel whether news-related or not, there was nothing but 9/11 news, without even commercial breaks. And we were glued to the tv for that whole time.
I remember that a day after 9/11, we heard a plane flying overhead, and the whole neighborhood went out to look because it was such a strange/scary sound; there were no regular flights in the air. (It was a military plane.)
I also remember on 9/12 being at home because my work in Detroit was canceled for the day. A pair of fighter planes flew by overhead at a relatively low altitude. It was funny, in a way. I've always been a supporter of the military, having come from a military family, and grateful for its protection. But it occurred to me that this was the first time that I felt that some actual live military personnel were defending ME personally. (From what, I'm not sure -- maybe an invasion from Canada).
I would like to expand on my objections above.
“Never forget” is a conservative political statement. I’ve heard it from Nassau county Rogan bros, Hamptons greedheads, and Idaho militia types. Nobody who was anywhere near the towers, or knew someone personally who was involved, could ever “forget”. It is a stand-in for a particular mindset that was prevalent in this country, and a shameful one at that. Brain dead jingoism. Freedom fries(!!) I mean, how stupid can you get?
And other than the memories of those— particularly public servants— who died that day, what we should really be remembering is that this was one of the most politicized tragedies in recent memory. We blew up an entire foreign country in the aftermath of this terrible day, and whatever their sins, they really didn’t have anything to do with the attacks! There are lessons to learn from 9/11 but “never forget” sure ain’t it.
And then the former President and candidate’s son-in-law can turn around and take $2b from the people who were actually arguably responsible for what happened and nobody has anything to say.
Josh might have met some people in Staten Island who had relatives who died. So did I, to say the least. And I was a lot closer than _XY. My dad has lung cancer, gee I wonder why. With all due respect, Josh, take your “never forget, ever”— and shove it where Leonard Leo sends your checks.
“Brain dead jingoism. Freedom fries(!!) I mean, how stupid can you get?”
And if you have doubts about this, I would direct you to the comedic stylings of “Frank Drackman” passim. The self-proclaimed Faulkner of the modern conservative movement. Truly an avatar!
"“Never forget” is a conservative political statement. I’ve heard it from ..."
By far the most common usage I have heard is in reference to the Holocaust, and not always from far right types. Once upon a time a similar sentiment was phrased as 'Remember Pearl Harbor'. Are some terrible things OK to remember and some not?
"Freedom fries"
Liberty cabbage 🙂
Yes, it’s just like “remember the Alamo”
I note only quibbling, therefore I count your comment as being in agreement. I salute you, internet denizen, for being so right minded!
Found this on Instapundit and thought I'd pass it on.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/17/nyregion/battery-park-city-beach.html
I was at the infamous Sept 10, 2001 selectboard meeting where they decided not to permit the flying of US flags on lightpoles.
Talk about bad timing...
https://www.cnn.com/2001/US/10/14/rec.flag.dispute/index.html
"Life went on beyond the Palisades." – Billy Joel
I was an air traffic controller on duty at Washington Center that morning. Over 31 years, that was the only time I ever said to a commercial airline pilot: "You will proceed to and land at [x] airport or you will be escorted there by fighter jets."