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Federal Ban on Gun Possession by Drug Users Is Often Unconstitutional
"[O]ur history and tradition may support some limits on a presently intoxicated person's right to carry a weapon ..., but they do not support disarming a sober person based solely on past substance usage."
An excerpt from today's opinion in U.S. v. Connelly, written by Judge Kurt Engelhardt, joined by Judges Jerry Smith and Irma Carrillo Ramirez:
Paola Connelly is a non-violent, marijuana smoking gunowner. El Paso police came to her house in response to a "shots fired" call. When they arrived, they saw John, Paola's husband, standing at their neighbor's door firing a shotgun. After arresting him, they spoke with Paola, who indicated that she would at times smoke marijuana as a sleep aid and for anxiety. {Paola [also] told officers that John and the neighbor used crack and powdered cocaine together ….} A sweep revealed that the Connellys' home contained drug paraphernalia and several firearms, including firearms owned by Paola. There was no indication that Paola was intoxicated at the time.
Paola was charged with violating: (1) 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(3) by possessing firearms and ammunition as an unlawful user of a controlled substance, and (2) 18 U.S.C. § 922(d)(3) by providing firearms and ammunition to an unlawful user of a controlled substance. Paola argued in a motion to dismiss, and the District Court ultimately agreed, that §§ 922(g)(3) and 922(d)(3) were facially unconstitutional and that § 922(g)(3) was unconstitutional as applied to her under the Second Amendment.
This appeal asks us to consider whether Paola's Second Amendment rights were infringed, and the answer depends on whether § 922(g)(3) is consistent with our history and tradition of firearms regulation. The short of it is that our history and tradition may support some limits on a presently intoxicated person's right to carry a weapon (and for that reason Paola's facial challenges to §§ 922(g)(3) and 922(d)(3) fail), but they do not support disarming a sober person based solely on past substance usage. Nor, contrary to what the government contends, do restrictions on the mentally ill or more generalized traditions of disarming "dangerous" persons apply to nonviolent, occasional drug users when of sound mind….
[L]aws designed to disarm the severely mentally ill do not justify depriving those of sound mind of their Second Amendment rights. The analogy stands only if someone is so intoxicated as to be in a state comparable to "lunacy." Just as there is no historical justification for disarming citizens of sound mind, there is no historical justification for disarming a sober citizen not presently under an impairing influence….
So the Bruen-style analogical question is this: which is Paola more like: someone whose mental illness is so severe that she presents a danger to herself and others (i.e., someone who would be confined and deprived of firearms under this tradition and history of Second Amendment regulation)? Or a repeat alcohol user (who would not)? Paola falls into the latter camp. While intoxicated, she may be comparable to a severely mentally ill person whom the Founders would disarm. But, while sober, she is like a repeat alcohol user between periods of intoxication, whom the Founders would not disarm….
The government also contends that persons whom Congress deems "dangerous" can have their Second Amendment rights stripped. In doing so, it posits that Paola—a non-violent marijuana user—falls into the category of "dangerous." But our history and tradition of disarming "dangerous" persons does not include non-violent marijuana users like Paola. Indeed, not one piece of historical evidence suggests that, at the time they ratified the Second Amendment, the Founders authorized Congress to disarm anyone it deemed dangerous. Instead, the government presents a collection of different statutes disarming discrete groups of persons throughout history, which suggest an abstract belief that one's right to bear arms could be stripped if he were legitimately dangerous to the public.
The government's examples fall into two groups. First, laws barring political dissidents from owning guns in periods of conflict…. Second, laws that disarmed religious minorities—especially Catholics. [But t]he Founders did not disarm English Loyalists because they were believed to lack self-control; it was because they were viewed as political threats to our nascent nation's integrity. So too with laws disarming religious minorities—the perceived threat was as political as it was religious, if not even more so….
Nevertheless, an undeniable throughline runs through these sources: Founding-era governments took guns away from those perceived to be dangerous. Indeed, Rahimi 2024 [i.e., the Supreme Court's Rahimi decision, rather than the Fifth Circuit's -EV] discusses this history vis-à-vis § 922(g)(8), which affirms the idea "that the government may disarm an individual temporarily after a 'judicial determinatio[n]' that he 'likely would threaten or ha[s] threatened another with a weapon.'"
So we must ask: why were the groups disarmed at the Founding considered to be dangerous and therefore disarmed, and is that "why" "relevantly similar" to § 922(g)(3)? It is not. The government identifies no class of persons at the Founding who were "dangerous" for reasons comparable to marijuana users. Marijuana users are not a class of political traitors, as English Loyalists were perceived to be. Nor are they like Catholics and other religious dissenters who were seen as potential insurrectionists.
And § 922(g)(3) is not limited to those judicially determined to have had a history of violent behavior (or a propensity to engage in same) like those persons discussed in Rahimi 2024—not all members of the set "drug users" are violent. As applied, the government has not shown how Paola's marijuana use predisposes her to armed conflict or that she has a history of drug-related violence.
Read the whole opinion for more.
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“Shall not be infringed” what’s so hard about that?
A good way to signal to anyone who knows something about this subject that "I am completely ignorant about the entire subject of constitutional law and should be completely ignored" is to make the "shall not be infringed means what it says" argument..
It means what it says, sorry if that’s an “Inconvenient Truth” (see what I did there?, I took AlGores Idiotic book title (that you probably bought) and threw it back in your face) they had Asterisks in the 18th Century, somehow they didn’t think they needed one
Frank “Infringe at your own risk”
You need to go to law school, flunk out of your first class when you find out that the subject is 400 times more complicated than you think, and then sit down and learn some stuff you don't know.
I really don't, but I know something you need to do.
Prior to incorporation making it apply to states, and prior to the modern interpretation of commerce, I think the BoR parts about “shall make no law” and “shall not be infringed” could have been interpreted much more literally.
200 years ago the response to the shout-fire-in-a-theater question could have been, no, Congress cannot ban shouting fire in a theater, only a state can. Similarly for regulations on carrying firearms.
Sure. Let the states make their own interpretations of the Constitution. Niggas were originally 3/5 of a person. A much more historical understanding than that pesky, modern 14th Amendment. Let Alabama have its way again. Ah the Southern Strategy... still alive and well
Another person who can’t understand the difference between “is” and “ought”, or in this case “was” vs “should have been”.
But thank you for the reminder that the left has its own Sevos and Guilfoyles.
And it was the Northern States who were responsible for the "3/5 Compromise" they initially didn't want the Slaves to count as all (honest disagreement, they weren't considered peoples, so why should they count?) while the Southern States wanted they counted the same as everybody else (honest disagreement, even today we don't base Congressional Apportionment by the "Voting Population") You might already know this if you didn't go to a Pubic Screw-el (OK, I learned it in a Pubic Screw-el, one named after a Confederate President)
Frank
No one, even slaveholders denied that slaves were people. They came up with clever excuses such as "outside our social compact" (which means what exactly?).
Well, as unartfully crafted as it was, the 3/5's compromise was actually an an anti-slavery position.
Maryland, Virginia, SC, Georgia had slave populations of around 40% of their population. Counting only 3/5 of their slave populations for apportionment reduced their representation in Congress by a pretty substantial 16%. Which was about 10 seats in a 65 seat Congress.
If the 3/5's compromise hadn't been enacted it would have significantly shifted the balance of power towards the slave states for decades longer, and might have doomed some even modest anti-slavery measures like the Missouri compromise.
But good talking point.
Frank probably was much closer to the truth than Stevens was in dissent, with his laughable "right of the people" collective rights hail Mary.
Frankie 'wounded warrior' Drackman, America's neediest veteran. When I see a well-regulated militia collectively shooting morphine, I'll be sure to give them a pass and also thank them for their service. You know, just like you require praise for all your derring dos
Never claimed to be wounded, I admit my right index finger PIP (Intraarticular BTW) fracture was from Touch Foo-bawl in Saudi Arabia(only a few miles from Kuwait though) and in my “Non Dominant” Hand VA wouldn’t give me shit for it anyway (although thanks to our Right-Dominant Society I have to stick Endotracheal Tubes through Vocal Cords with my less “Dextrous” hand, although I did carry an M9 it spent most of its time, like Jim Rockfords 38 in my equivalent of a Cookie Jar, my 6 cubic foot can ostensibly for my “Medical Supplies” but actually crammed with Texas Pete Chili, Canned Corned Beef, Hot Tamales, Twizzlers, amazing that I lost 10 lbs over there (no Parasites in my Brain, not drinking for 8 months and walking everywhere
Frank
Great litany of your deprivations. Please, continue
I'm not Mitt Romeney, Hobie-Stank, I'll continue when I fucking want to continue, so what country are you going to move to when "45" becomes "47" (and if you kill "45/47" Great! (well, not "Great") you'll get JD, 2024's Spiro V. Agnew (who was erected VPOTUS twice)
Frank
Why Frankie, I never implied you were wounded in combat or got a paper cut as a REMF. I implied that your pride has been wounded. Because as a dedicated Marine, you seem to imply that Marines require praise for their exploits, yet no one here except me gives you that praise.
I think this drug user/firearms statute is quite unconstitutional. It's unconstitutional under the Second Amendment, and its unconstitutional as a status crime under Robinson.
Good old history and tradition. The discovery and knowledge of 7 billion modern humans doesn't stand a chance. Good news for all the hayseeds though. Your perverse obsession with the president's son may come to an inglorious end. This dumb ruling means his acquittal.
And his more rapid death most likely, best thing for Jim Morrison (like me, spent a nonproductive year at Florida State) would have been some time in the Florida Prison System, get back in fighting shape, sober, and he’d probably still be performing, how long did he last in Paris?
Frank
No because while the possession law is unconstitutional, the law against lying on a government form is not. And that's what he's really charged with - lying on the form.
Now I would agree that the penalty for lying on the form is grossly disportionate and even that lying on the form shouldn't be more than a mindemeanor. But that's an entirely separate debate.
Yes, but he was made to lie about a condition that, according to this ruling, could be considered a protected class
Nothing in this ruling makes Hunter Biden's self-admitted recreational drug use into a protected class. Care to try again?
Does this ruling not make plain that drug addicts are entitled to guns?
as long as they're a member of "The People" they are
1. Drug addicts are not a protected class.
2. Hunter was not made to lie on the form. He had the option to tell the truth on the form, be denied a gun, then (and only then) raise the same challenge to the denial that was successfully raised in this case. You might think all that impractical (and I might even agree) but that is what the law currently requires.
According to this ruling, it is impermissible to deny drug addicts guns. . So what does that make the validity of the form? SCOTUS has been throwing out a lot of immunities lately to keep their boy safe. I suspect their sympathies would extend to gun nuts like Hunter
Again, the form remains perfectly valid. This decision merely says that the government is forbidden from denying you a gun based on your truthful answer to that one question.
I don't think your analysis is correct. A lie is only criminal if the lie is about something material. If the government cannot deny a purchase because of the purchaser's drug use, then how is it material?
Consider, by way of analogy, a question on the form that asked for the purchaser's religion. Could the government prosecute a purchaser who lied about that? It couldn't — even if the lie were acknowledged and indisputable — because that lie could not constitutionally affect a government decision with respect to the purchase, and therefore would not be material.
"Could the government prosecute a purchaser who lied about that? It couldn’t — even if the lie were acknowledged and indisputable — because that lie could not constitutionally affect a government decision with respect to the purchase, and therefore would not be material."
I went and read Abramski. The dissent asks whether you could be prosecuted for falsely answering a 4473 question about your favorite color. The majority replies: "The dissent argues that our view would impose criminal liability for a false answer even to an “ultra vires question,” such as “the buyer’s favorite color.” We need not, and do not, opine on that hypothetical, because it is miles away from this case. As we have explained, see supra at 9–19, Question 11.a. is not ultra vires, but instead fundamental to the lawfulness of a gun sale. It is, indeed, part and parcel of the dealer’s determination of the (true) buyer’s “name, age, and place of residence,” which §922(b)(5) requires the dealer to
keep."
I wish the dissent had asked whether you could be prosecuted for e.g. lying about your weight. Part of the majority's analysis seems to focus on the 4473 being retained, and that the info in it being available to law enforcement to use in finding the purchaser. That analysis would seem to make a lie about the buyer's address or weight or race material, and thus prosecutable, even though the government could not allow or disallow the sale because of the buyer's race, for example.
Materiality is certainly something I'd try to argue but it's far from a slam-dunk. Other cases have set the threshold for "materiality" to be quite low, sometimes ludicrously so. Consider Wickard, Gonzales or any of a hundred tax cases.
The question was material at the time he made the statement and would have resulted in him not being sold the firearm. That years later it may no longer be material due to intervening court decisions seems immaterial.
The hypothetical 'religion question' would have been immaterial had he lied about it as it was well established law at the time that ones religion could not be factored into a government decision to deny a gun purchase.
Anyway, this ruling only is precedent in the fifth circuit which is not where Biden filled out the form. For example, the Ninth Circuit just ruled in UNITED STATES v. MANNEY while upholding Manney's conviction that
Because, I mean, wouldn't it be funny if Harlan Thomas had to strike down this ruling just to achieve a Republican agenda priority (Hunter), yet simultaneously denying wanton guns for all including fetuses addicted to ruffies?
Hunter is not a priority. His influence peddling is.
A distinction without a difference. By that standard, the government can require you fill out a form to exercise any right, including free speech, with a lie being punishable by prison.
The Constitution doesn't permit the government to require filling out a 447e to buy a gun, any more than leftists would permit a form requiring the Rev. Kirkland to affirm that he will wear protection and be on PrEP before sodomizing his numerous "husbands."
Is it time to start adding "(The Late)" to any mention of Reverend Revolting?
While I agree that the government's ability to insist on forms should be sharply curtailed, that is not the current state of the law. The courts that have considered similar issues basically said "you have to fill out the form" and even "you have to tell the truth" because that's all just truthful speech and 'data gathering for legitimate government interests. They dodge the issue you raise by saying that "you can challenge the government's denial of permission after the government actually makes the denial based on what you filled out.
In other words, Hunter had to go full-on and intentional civil disobedience in order to challenge the law at all. He cannot both try to hide his civil disobedience and then claim its benefits. It's an answer only a lawyer could love but that is what the law currently says.
You really want ol' Hunter in jail, don't you? His existence doesn't effect inflation or immigration or your personal life in any way, does it? Yet here you are. The politics of personal destruction are still alive and well I see
No, I think it's a stupid law that should be repealed. But the fact that it's a bad law does not make it an unconstitutional law. Which means there has to be political will to repeal it.
And it is a law that the senior Biden worked hard to impose on all of us when he was a Senator. Why do you think the Biden family should be able to evade the consequences of laws they helped pass? Do you somehow fail to see that forcing a law's adherents to confront its consequences is how you build the political will we need?
I agree, the letter of the law means he's guilty. I'm amused that you still believe Hunter = 'Biden Family'. Heh. Like, lately, Trump has been referring to the past four years as the 'Harris' administration. Whereas last month it was the 'Biden' administration. When Comer and Jordan and yourself can finally figure out who did what and supply some kind of proof, id be a lot more receptive to all this childishness
I don't think he had to engage in "civil disobedience" to challenge the law. In common usage "civil disobedience" requires violating a government law, regulation, or command.
But is it illegal to fill out the form truthfully even if you know that your truthful answers will cause the sale to be rejected? I'm not aware of any such law but then that means little as I'm not a walking encyclopedia of federal law.
Upon rejection due to his truthful disqualifying answer he would have been free to challenge that rejection all the way to the Supreme Court which would have been a completely legal course to pursue.
I’ve been saying that for months about the gun charges against Hunter. Of course there is the question of whether the false statement on the form was material, but the actual possession charge should be reversed on appeal.
He’s in the same position as Trump, a dubious charge likely (almost certainly in Trump’s case) to be vacated on appeal.
But alas the tax charges go to trial in September if I recall, no constitutional issues there. And then Hunter really will lose his RKBA, as a convicted felon.
No one, even slaveholders denied that slaves were people. They came up with clever excuses such as "outside our social compact" (which means what exactly?).
I wrote an expert opinion in a marijuana,user case for a Federal PD some months back. The U S Attorney read it and told the PD he would accept anything short of a dismissal rather than go to trial.
Hunter is a sleazy character but the possession by drug addict law has always been obviously unconstitutional