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What Walz and Vance Get Wrong About Opportunity and Mobility
Walz is wrong to attack Vance for leaving home to go to Yale. Vance is wrong to support policies that would close off similar opportunities to others.

Over the last few days, Democratic VP nominee Tim Walz has repeatedly attacked his GOP opponent, J.D. Vance, for leaving home to attend Yale Law School:
"Like all regular people I grew up with in the heartland, J.D. studied at Yale," Walz said sarcastically at the rally…. Come on, that's not what middle America is," Walz continued.
The governor, in a recent interview on MSNBC's Morning Joe, expanded on that point, saying, "None of my hillbilly cousins went to Yale, and none of them went on to be venture capitalists, or whatever…."
He made much the same point in his acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention: "I grew up in the small town of Butte, Nebraska, population 400. I had 24 kids in my high school class, and none of them went to Yale."
There are many legitimate lines of attack against Vance, whom I am no fan of. But this isn't one of them. There's nothing wrong with leaving home in search of opportunity - including by attending an elite educational institution in another part of the country. America was built by people who "voted with their feet" for such opportunities, through both international migration and the internal kind. And such mobility doesn't somehow become wrong when "hillbillies" do it. Ironically, among the speakers preceding Walz at the DNC was former President Bill Clinton, who grew up in a poor white family in Arkansas, and (like Vance) went on to attend Georgetown and Yale Law School. Does Walz mean to suggest Clinton should have stuck to his "hilbilly" origins and stayed in Arkansas?
I have to admit I take this kind of attack somewhat personally. I too went to Yale Law School, the first person in my family to attend college in the United States. My wife grew up in the quintessential working class city of Allentown, Pennsylvania. Her parents (both public school teachers), and most of her other family members attended local colleges. But she chose to go to Dartmouth College, a more elite out-of-state institution that offered better opportunities. Doing that wasn't wrong, and certainly wasn't somehow a betrayal of her origins.
The real problem with Vance is not that he left home to go to Yale, but that he and Donald Trump support policies like severe migration restrictions and exclusionary zoning that close off such opportunities to others. I wrote about this in a previous post on Vance:
If you read [Vance's]… book, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that his life was transformed by [mobility]: leaving home to join the Marine Corps, get a college degree at Ohio State University, and eventually going to Yale, opened up opportunities that he probably would never have had if he had not left home….
In my later book Free to Move, I pointed out that Vance's story of success through domestic foot voting is also similar to that of people who transformed their lives through international migration. Almost all the standard arguments against allowing the latter also apply to the former.
Over the last several years, Vance has undergone a kind of ideological transformation, becoming a prominent advocate of the MAGA populism he previously opposed. Sadly, the policies Vance now advocates would destroy opportunities for immigrants and natives alike, and in the process make America weaker and poorer.
In addition to mass deportations and other harsh migration restrictions, Vance and Trump also support exclusionary zoning, which blocks millions of native-born Americans from moving to opportunity, including many poor whites with backgrounds similar to Vance and Walz. That not only harms those prevented from moving, but also harms American society as a whole, by slowing down innovation and economic growth.
Walz's record on such issues is less bad, but still highly equivocal. Sadly, the man is not the YIMBY some praise him for being. The Democratic ticket supports a number of dubious housing policies that, if enacted, would make the problem worse, though they also have some modestly good ones.
In sum, Walz is wrong to bash Vance for seeking opportunity by going to Yale. Vance, however, is wrong to advocate policies that would predictably close off similar opportunities for others. Both men - and their respective parties - would do well to work to empower more people to vote with their feet for better educational and job opportunities.
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That’s a biiiiiiiiiig stretch of both-sidesism.
How broken is Ilyas brain? Does he wake up and pour his cereal in the morning and talk about how it’s like Trump’s immigration policies?
And did he just compare serving in the Marine Corps to entering a country illegally?
Edit: accidentally replied to someone rather than the post
Whew! Checked my brain, seemed no worse than usual. Turns out we were agreeing.
Joining the military and going out of state for college are both *totally* morally equivalent to illegal immigration. At least according to Ilya Somin.
Yes, he has to look hard to try to justify his crazy open-borders political views. Does Yale Law have open admissions? I do not think so. There is no analogy.
An interesting tidbit here. The Biden-Harris Democratic ticket in 2020 was the first since 1984 where neither candidate graduated from Harvard Law School or Yale Law School.
But Sleepy Joe was recruited to play QB at Navy!!!
That's not correct; it happened in 2004. Neither Kerry nor Edwards went to either of those law schools.
You are right. My mistake. John Kerry went to Yale as an undergrad.
Also, I dont think either Bush 2 or Cheney went to law school at all.
Probably also the lowest IQ candidates in a long time.
Roger gets out the calipers.
“Like all regular people I grew up with in the heartland, J.D. studied at Yale,” Walz said sarcastically at the rally. Vance “had his career funded by Silicon Valley billionaires. And then wrote a bestseller trashing that community. Come on, that’s not what middle America is,” Walz continued.
Is Walz saying kids from the heartland shouldn’t go to Yale? Or is he saying once he'd gone to Yale, written a book trashing the people he came from, and had a career financed by Peter Theil, maybe Vance isn’t representative of the heartland?
Someone above noted Biden-Harris was the first ticket since 1984 without a graduate of Harvard or Yale. In this anti-elitist age, it’s understandable Walz would highlight this in contrast to “anti-elitist” Manhattan billionaire Trump and Yale venture capitalist Vance.
Yes, Somin misses the mark here.
The criticism isn't that Vance went to Yale. Good on him for aiming high.
The criticism is that, having escaped the pattern, he claims to still represent the majority who didn't.
Does Walz mean to suggest Clinton should have stuck to his "hilbilly" origins and stayed in Arkansas?
No. Walz means to suggest Vance is a schmuck for pretending to be an exemplar of cultural values he not only fled, but actively disparaged at length. Vance wrote a self-promoting book with a singularly contemptuous take on an oppressed sub-culture Vance manifestly never understood. That's pretty bad. It's worse that Vance attempted to use doing it as a means to valorize the very system which delivered the oppression.
“Self-Promoting Book”??
Have you read Barry Hussein Osama’s “Wet Dreams of my (African Chieftain Dead Beat Dad) Father”?
it’s the one where you can hear BHO say “Nigger” several times, I’ve given BHO enough of my Shekels, so I just listened to it on YouTube (was still available last I checked)
Pretty sure JD understands the culture he grew up in, like you even know where “Appalachia” is
Frank
At that's two people who've never read the book but won't let that stop then from telling you why it makes Vance a bad person
Nope. Vance, and his MAGA opportunism, make Vance a bad person. The book was just Vance stupidly announcing how that personal process happened, while denigrating what he claims to be his own heritage.
But the heritage part is pure fakery. Vance came along to the hillbilly scene too late to understand what happend. All he got to see was the wreckage—human, architectural, environmental, and otherwise, especially economic.
"A school district or charter school must provide students with access to menstrual products at no charge. The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district. For purposes of this section, “menstrual products” means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection with the menstrual cycle."
Governor Sergeant-Major-Pepper-Waltz signed this Bullshit,
no wonder his son’s so fucked up (IVF ain’t all it’s cracked up to be)
Frank
So if a menstruating student uses the boys restroom, then it must provide free tampons?
No, the law says "in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12", not "in restrooms regularly used by students who menstruate". The law requires those products to be available in any restroom must in case a menstruating student uses that restroom.
Related query: Are there many restrooms in covered schools that are used by 4th graders but not also often used by 1st graders or kindergartners?
No; the law says "The products must be available to all menstruating students," not to all students. If there are no girls who use the boy's bathroom, then there need not be tampons there. But also: who cares? This has to be the dumbest non-controversy ever.
The controversy is explained by your use of the word "girls." Research the legislative history.
If the legislature wanted to make that the law they could have saved a lot of words and ambiguity by writing “in restrooms used by those students”. Standard canons of construction tell us that the extra words were intended to mean what they say.
It shows that Walz is on board with the transgender agenda, and favors using the schools to advance it.
The law leaves it to local districts.
SCANDALOUS.
Actually Governor Randy Bullshit-ears K-tucky is a shit hole compared to JD's O-Hi-O, don't blame JD for leaving, or Bullshit-ears for going to Vanderbilt (he was never Ohio State, Auburn, Alabama, or Georgia material) only reason he went back is he was able to get erected Guv'nah on his crooked father's coattails, he's like "Baby Doc" Duvalier without the Medical Degree
Frank
Saw the subheadline and saw it was a Somin article and knew immediately it would be about immigration.
I would like to ask Somin if these "elite" universities should have to accept anyone who just shows up for classes? Or does the university have the right to control who attends these universities? Does it make a difference if it's a state controlled university
Of course, Ms. Harris grew up in California, and went to college at Howard University in Washington DC. But let’s just skip over that, okay?
Didn't realize Moe had a College named after him, can't wait for her to do the 2 finger Eye-poke when Sergeant Pepper-Waltz's victims start coming out of the woodwork.
"... whom I am no fan of." Apparently not a big fan of correct grammar, either.
Of course there's nothing wrong with going to Yale. But I don't perceive Walz's comments as an assertion that one shouldn't go to Yale. Rather, he's claiming that people who go to Yale lead lives that are very different from those of your average American, that they may be out of touch with the needs and wants of the middle class, and that he has lived a life that enables him to better able to understand those concerns. Whether you agree or disagree, I think it's a defensible argument.
Walz also bragged that he taught many students, and none went to Yale.
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