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S. Ct. Will Decide: May States Require Age Verification to Access Porn Sites?
The Court just agreed to hear this case, Free Speech Coalition v. Paxton. You can read the majority and dissenting opinions in the Fifth Circuit here, and the petition, response, and reply here. Here's the issue in a nutshell:
1. Ginsberg v. N.Y.(1968) held (in a majority opinion by Justice Brennan) that states may ban sales to minors of pornographic material that's "obscene as to minors" (even if it's fully protected for adults). This meant that stores and theaters that wanted to sell or exhibit such material would have to make "a reasonable bona fide attempt to ascertain the true age of" young-seeming patrons, even though that would of course in some measure affect the rights of adults (who might, for instance, be required to show identification cards, and thus lose part of their privacy). In the process, the majority applied the highly deferential "rational basis" test, though only after it essentially concluded that the law fell within a recognized First Amendment exception.
2. Ashcroft v. ACLU (II)(2004) upheld (in a majority opinion by Justice Kennedy) a preliminary injunction against enforcement of a federal law that required credit card or age verification for commercial online distribution of such "obscene as to minors" material. The majority concluded that the law burdened the rights of adults, and that the government hadn't shown that other alternatives (such as filtering) would be inadequate for protecting children. In the process, the majority applied the highly undeferential "strict scrutiny" test, and didn't discuss Ginsberg.
The core question is which approach is right for these kinds of restrictions aimed at shielding minors from pornographic material. (There's a lot more to the question, of course, which you can learn about from the opinions below.)
By the way, here's some more background detail on the "obscene-as-to-minors" category (also known as the "harmful-to-minors" category) and how it fits within First Amendment law more generally:
I. Obscenity: The Supreme Court has held that the First Amendment does not protect the distribution of "obscenity," a narrow category that basically covers hard-core pornography. To be obscenity, a work must satisfy all three of the following elements, largely drawn from Miller v. California (1973):
- "the [a] average person, [b] applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, [c] taken as a whole, [d] appeals to the prurient interest,"
- "the work depicts or describes, [a] in a patently offensive way [under [b] contemporary community standards, Smith v. U.S. (1977)], [c] sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law," and
- "the work, [a] taken as a whole, [b] lacks serious [c] literary, artistic, political, or scientific value[, [d] applying national standards and not just community standards."
Note also that, (4) mere private possession of obscenity can't be constitutionally outlawed, though distribution and even transportation for one's own private use may be. See Stanley v. Georgia (1969); U.S. v. Orito (1973).
II. Child Pornography: The Supreme Court has also held that the First Amendment does not protect the distribution or possession of "child pornography," which basically covers
- "visual[] depict[ions]" of
- actual children below the age of majority (and not just fictional pictures or pictures of adults who look like children)
- "performing sexual acts or lewdly exhibiting their genitals."
See New York v. Ferber (1982); Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition (2002).
III. Distribution of Sexually Themed Material to Minors: The Court has held that the law may bar distribution to specific minors of sexually themed material, even if the material doesn't fall within the above exceptions. The test for such unprotected "obscene-as-to-minors" material is basically the Miller test (see item I above), with "of minors" or "for minors" added to each prong (e.g., "the work taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value for minors"). Ginsberg v. New York (1968), a pre-Miller case, upheld a law that implemented the then-current obscenity test with "to minors" added at the end of each prong; most lower courts and commentators have assumed that Ginsberg plus Miller justify laws that implement the Miller-based test given above.
IV. Public Display of Sexually Themed Material, Where Minors and Offended Viewers Might See It Alongside Willing Viewers? It's not clear to what extent the government may bar this, at least assuming the material fits within the obscene-as-to-minors framework described in item III—the Court has struck down limits on Internet distribution of such material, but lower courts had upheld limits on non-Internet distribution and display, for instance through coin-operated newsracks. The Supreme Court has also strongly suggested that the display of such material—including mere nudity and not just obscene-as-to-minors material—on broadcast television is constitutionally unprotected.
V. Pornography More Generally: Sexually themed material that fits in none of the above categories is constitutionally protected, though the "erogenous zoning" cases allow greater regulations of—though generally not total bans on—bricks-and-mortar businesses, such as theaters and bookstores, that distribute pornographic material to walk-in customers.
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In my very limited experience, age verification is a joke. ("Please press CONFIRM to confirm you are 18 or over.") One wonders what the point of these laws is.
Requiring the platforms to engage in CYA? A foot in the door for more intrusive measures that would actually work most of the time?
The latter, I think.
Many forms of online interactions require ID or other credentials. I’m pretty sure they want to do something like require a credit card or a form of ID or other age verification with credentials. We’re not talking about clicking a button here.
And that appears to be exactly why some people oppose it. They don’t want to go back to a short time ago when you had to walk into a shop and show your ID to get this material. They want people to have unfettered and (seemingly, anyway) anonymous access and distribution, saturating the intertubes.
Merely having to show ID isn't really the primary objection. The objection is that in the online world (as opposed to the physical world), "showing" your ID to the vendor creates a potentially permanent record of your use of the website.
It also risks leaving the provider with the materials they need to perform identity fraud. Their copies of your identity documents could be used to open bank accounts, exchange accounts, and to take out loans, for example.
Yes, although, these days, retailers are typically scanning IDs for any purchase that requires an ID. Some are even taking an image of your ID to add to their “customer database” (marijuana dispensaries for example). Of course they all have cameras too, recording an up close shot of your face in ultra high definition as you look at the checkout screen.
"And that appears to be exactly why some people oppose it. They don’t want to go back to a short time ago when you had to walk into a shop and show your ID to get this material. They want people to have unfettered and (seemingly, anyway) anonymous access and distribution, saturating the intertubes."
You could actually read the arguments against it and cite those instead of pulling partisan bullshit out of your ass.
So, there may be a chilling effect discouraging consumers from visiting these sites and harming the porn merchants? Yeah, that’s gonna cause me to lose a lot of sleep.
It's going to be all websites.
The Supreme Court will eventually have to decide on AI-generated sexual images of children. I think the current state of the law is the defendant has an affirmative defense that no real children were used. If a ban can be constitutionally justified because child porn creates a market for child porn, that is just as true if the image in question was not made from real children. We're going to have to abolish the exception for fake child porn or abolish the presumption that real children were used.
I see a bit of a problem there, in that real people have real birth dates, and so the question of whether they are minors is capable of objective resolution.
But computer generated images have no birth date, there is no basis for objective resolution of the question of whether they are (artificially generated) images of minors.
"If a ban can be constitutionally justified because child porn creates a market for child porn"
That's not quite right. The justification is that it leads to exploitation of children in the production of child porn. Which, of course, has no application to AI generated images.
The argument is that synthetic pornography that looks like children creates a market for the real thing. This seems a bit like arguing that synthetic meat should be banned because it creates a market for human meat.
Its not such an absurd argument. Indeed, if vegetarians thought they had more power, they might well make this argument.
In a world where meat is everywhere, synthetic meat is an improvement from a vegetarian point of view.
But imagine a world where vegetarians hold sway and their worldview has triumphed so far as official law is concerned. In such a world, at least in the minds of the vegetarians in power, everyone knows that eating meat is a horrible sin. In such a world, synthetic meat might well be thought of as stimulating a desire for real meat that otherwise wouldn’t exist, and hence should be banned.
This is addressing a different question from the one before the court. AI vs. real concerns porn PERFORMERS. And the Court has been pretty clear that only a live minor is relevant. AI images are just fancy, computer-assisted cartoons not functionally different from older technologies for which there is existing caselaw.
The question the court is taking up is whether ID can be required to show CUSTOMERS are over 18.
So far as I know, AI has not yet evolved to the point where it starts consuming porn.
I generally think it’s best to allow states, i.e., the people to pass the laws that they want to have in that particular locality, rather than trying to force a “one size fits all” approach to everything.
Certainly, in this case, a ban on distributing pornography to children is a pretty basic type of law. It may be likened to age restrictions on cigarettes and alcohol. There doesn’t appear to be any reason to distinguish between digital and physical distribution for free speech purposes.
But if some states love pornography and want it to flow freely everywhere without the slightest potential inconvenience, even as millions of very young children are increasingly glued to screens, then they can do that too.
I assume you apply that to firearms ownership.
Well, firearms ownership by minors, anyway. I'm pretty hard core pro 2nd amendment, and I wouldn't say that prohibiting firearms ownership by minors really has any constitutional significance. At least until some state tries to give minors the vote.
What’s so significant about giving minors the vote?
I’d see a problem if we had a national popular vote for president and some states had a lower age than others. Or just made it significantly easier or harder to vote than others.
But as long as it's consistent across whatever election is being held, the cutoff at 18 is a bit arbitrary. I could see decent arguments for anything from 14 to 25 or so.
The significance is that if you can vote, you’re not a minor.
You can't really "give minors the vote", you can only change the age of majority.
I’m saying that I think not letting minors own guns is fine, constitutionally, because minors have a rather limited set of rights they can personally exercise.
But you can’t just say people are “minors” until 21, and contradict that by handing people under 21 the rest of the rights that come with majority, just excepting one particular right. What you’ve really done there is changed the age of majority, and decided to violate one of the rights.
So, the federal law that says 18-20 year olds can’t buy handguns? I believe that the 26th amendment makes that unconstitutional, because the age at which you get the vote, constitutionally, IS the age of majority, at which you get all your rights.
Where in the world do you get the idea that's how the age of majority is determined?
If I want to buy wine online, don't I need to prove my age?
Buying wine doesn't have First Amendment implications.
What is special about pornography in this regard? If the state can ban children from accessing pornography why shouldn't it be able to ban them from accessing other dangerous ideas? Communism and fascism have killed far more people than pornography. Islam has killed far more people than pornography.
Pornography is not an idea; it is conduct. It involves paying people to engage in sexual acts. If prostitution is not an "idea," neither is pornography.