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Justice Thomas Argues the Court Should at Some Point Consider Whether "Assault Weapons" Bans Violate Second Amendment
Justice Alito takes a similar view, but, at least in this case, this view didn't get the four votes necessary to grant review.
From today's statement by Justice Thomas in Harrel v. Raoul:
The State of Illinois enacted a law that makes it a felony to possess what Illinois branded "assault weapons," a term defined to include AR–15s. "The AR–15 is the most popular semi-automatic rifle" in America and is therefore undeniably "in common use today." Petitioners sought a preliminary injunction against the enforcement of the law, arguing that the law violates their Second Amendment right to "keep and bear Arms." The Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit rejected petitioners' request for a preliminary injunction, concluding "that the AR–15 … is not protected by the Second Amendment." According to the Seventh Circuit, the rifle selected by millions of Americans for self-defense and other lawful purposes does not even fall within the scope of the Arms referred to by the Second Amendment.
This Court is rightly wary of taking cases in an interlocutory posture. But, I hope we will consider the important issues presented by these petitions after the cases reach final judgment.
We have never squarely addressed what types of weapons are "Arms" protected by the Second Amendment. To be sure, we explained in District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), that the Second Amendment's protection "extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding." And, we noted that "the Second Amendment does not protect those weapons not typically possessed by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes," recognizing "the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons." But, this minimal guidance is far from a comprehensive framework for evaluating restrictions on types of weapons, and it leaves open essential questions such as what makes a weapon "bearable," "dangerous," or "unusual."
The Seventh Circuit's decision illustrates why this Court must provide more guidance on which weapons the Second Amendment covers. By contorting what little guidance our precedents provide, the Seventh Circuit concluded that the Second Amendment does not protect "militaristic" weapons. It then tautologically defined "militaristic" weapons as those "that may be reserved for military use." The Seventh Circuit's contrived "non-militaristic" limitation on the Arms protected by the Second Amendment seems unmoored from both text and history. See Friedman v. Highland Park (2015) (Thomas, J., dissenting from denial of certiorari). And, even on its own terms, the Seventh Circuit's application of its definition is nonsensical…. "The AR–15 is a civilian, not military, weapon. No army in the world uses a service rifle that is only semiautomatic" …. In my view, Illinois' ban is "highly suspect because it broadly prohibits common semiautomatic firearms used for lawful purposes." It is difficult to see how the Seventh Circuit could have concluded that the most widely owned semiautomatic rifles are not "Arms" protected by the Second Amendment.
These petitions arise from a preliminary injunction, and the Seventh Circuit stressed that its merits analysis was merely "a preliminary look at the subject." But, if the Seventh Circuit ultimately allows Illinois to ban America's most common civilian rifle, we can—and should—review that decision once the cases reach a final judgment. The Court must not permit "the Seventh Circuit [to] relegat[e] the Second Amendment to a second-class right."
Justice Alito didn't join the opinion, but noted that he voted to grant review.
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This seems a no-brainer, even based on Heller, let alone Bruen: "Assault weapons", aside from some cosmetic features, are just ordinary rifles. And they are possibly the most common form of long firearm. Short of declaring that governments can enact utterly arbitrary firearms bans, (Which would leave little remaining of the 2nd amendment.) these bans MUST be unconstitutional.
But there are not a lot of votes on the Court to take violations of the 2nd amendment seriously; They might (or might not) rule to uphold the 2nd amendment if a case unavoidably confronts them, but they're just not offended by 2nd amendment violations, the way 1st amendment violations get their hackles up.
If the lower courts were taking Bruen seriously, and before that, had taken Heller seriously, it would be acceptable for SCOTUS to let the lower courts rule first. But since the lower courts have nearly universally been thumbing their nose at the SCOTUS precedent, there's no conclusion other than the one you mentioned, that they don't actually care about the violations.
Heller was now 16 years ago, and Bruen was two years ago.
Most of the bad laws from the seven or eight holdout states are still in effect, and every irrational federal law is still in effect. Other than Thomas, Alito, and maybe Gorsuch, they don't care.
In fairness, I'd say that the lower courts are about 50/50 since Bruen. Yeah, that's a lot of lower courts still thumbing their noses at SCOTUS precedent but it's no longer "nearly universal".
IIRC the argument has been that BECAUSE it's a cosmetic ban, it doesn't violate the 2nd amendment.
You can have a semi-automatic 5.56 rifle, it just can't have an arbitrary list of cosmetic features.
And that's the sort of reasoning that is acceptable when it DOESN'T have to do with civil liberties.
Can you cite any case where the government has claimed in defending the law that its merely cosmetic?
And doesn't actually restrict peoples rights to have 'weapons of war'?
Seems to me that that's the kind of argument would only exist as a debating point in a comments thread.
IIRC the argument has been that BECAUSE it’s a cosmetic ban, it doesn’t violate the 2nd amendment.
You can have a semi-automatic 5.56 rifle, it just can’t have an arbitrary list of cosmetic features.
That seems like saying that banning books that are printed using a particular font is consistent with 1A.
I'm with the gun rights side on this one- whether you interpret the 2nd Amendment as militia-adjacent (in which case these weapons seem very related to militia service) or dangerousness-adjacent (in which case gun rights types are right that these weapons are being targeted because they cosmetically LOOK dangerous, not because they ARE dangerous), I think the 2nd Amendment plausibly protects the right to own an AR-15.
There is no such thing as "an assault weapon" in the civilian world.
As used, it is a made up term to describe the "bad thing of the week" that the fascists want to eliminate.
Yes, just like “partial birth abortion.”
Exactly. Everyone knows that polite society never uses those words.
Josh Sugarmann, the gun controller who invented the term:
"Assault weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons --anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun-- can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons."
The very term was invented to mislead people into thinking it was machine guns being discussed.
When you must use bad faith to get your policies implemented, that's proof positive that the policy is bad.
Agreed; it's kind of like people citing some random crime committed by an immigrant as justification for restricting immigration.
A random crime committed by an immigrant is not a justification for restricting immigration. Statistics showing that poor, low skill people are far more likely to commit crimes than middle class and above people, is justification to restrict poor, low skill immigration.
Unrestricted immigration has social costs as well as social benefits. The body politic must give these costs and benefits and enact laws accordingly, however imperfect. Choosing to not enforce those laws is unacceptable.
The American people have accepted it for years. Decades, really.
It's thousands of crimes by thousands of illegal immigrants every week. 9-11 would have just been another Tuesday if Moe-hammad Atta and his gang had been in Germany instead of the US. When someone in your fambily becomes the next "Lincoln Riley" (HT Comatose Joe) you'll be whistling a different tune.
Frank
Tajik ISIS members = tired, poor, and huddled masses yearning to be free.
“When you must use bad faith to get your policies implemented, that’s proof positive that the policy is bad.”
*The pro-life movement has entered the chat*
To be fair, Sugarman and his fellow-travelers in the anti-gun lobby have had a whole lot of help over the years from "journalists". The media has typically accepted the claims (and terminology) of the anti-gun lobby at face value with no questions asked.
They were partners in a crusade, after all, not just reporting on one.
Do you genuinely expect mainstream journalists -- who tend to be reasoning, educated professionals residing in strong, educated, diverse communities -- to be sympathetic to gun nuts?
The late Chicago Sun Times Columnist Carl Rowan might have been. You remember Carl, Director of the USIA under LBJ, Ambassador to Finland, first Afro-Amurican to be on the NSC, big "Progressive" supporter of Gun Control,
Rowan gained public notoriety on June 14, 1988, when he shot an unarmed teenage trespasser, Ben Smith. "The interloper was a near-naked teenager who had been skinny-dipping with friends in Rowan's pool, and the columnist's weapon was an unregistered, and thus illegal, .22 caliber pistol."
Rowan was charged for firing a gun that he did not legally own. Rowan was arrested and tried. During the trial, he argued that he had the right to use whatever means necessary to protect himself and his family. He also said the pistol he used was exempt from the District's handgun prohibition law because it belonged to his older son, a former FBI agent. He was accused of hypocrisy, since Rowan was a strict gun control advocate. In a 1981 column, he advocated "a law that says anyone found in possession of a handgun except a legitimate officer of the law goes to jail—period." In 1985, he called for "A complete and universal federal ban on the sale, manufacture, importation and possession of handguns (except for authorized police and military personnel).[13]
Rowan was tried but the jury was deadlocked; the judge declared a mistrial and he was never retried. In his autobiography, Rowan said he still favors gun control, but admits being vulnerable to a charge of hypocrisy
Frank
'who tend to be reasoning, educated professionals residing in strong, educated, diverse communities...'
LOL. Thanks, AIDS, I needed a good laugh. That must also help to explain why mainstream American journalism is so beloved and TRUSTED globally...
Surely no mainstream American journalist (from your side of the American culture war, at any rate) is quite as sharp a reasoner as President Biden, though, yeah?
“It’s just a rifle nbd” is also a misleading argument. No one seems capable of telling the truth about guns in dispassionate ways, which is why we have such shit policies around them.
Except that it IS just a (semiautomatic) rifle. (Note that nobody is claiming that SA operation isn't somehow different from mechanisms that require some additional action to chamber a new round, your own dishonest attempt to misrepresent the point notwithstanding.)
The parenthentheticals were the perfect irony. Thank you.
"The Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit rejected petitioners' request for a preliminary injunction, concluding "that the AR–15 … is not protected by the Second Amendment." According to the Seventh Circuit, the rifle selected by millions of Americans for self-defense and other lawful purposes does not even fall within the scope of the Arms referred to by the Second Amendment.
This Court is rightly wary of taking cases in an interlocutory posture. But, I hope we will consider the important issues presented by these petitions after the cases reach final judgment."
Yeah, yeah, we get it. But some lower court decisions are SO WRONG, they need to be corrected at the earliest possible opportunity.
A straightforward discussion of what arms the average citizen can keep and bear would focus on what the average infantryman carries; and that’s a selective fire assault rifle. In fact if you’re going to train a well regulated militia, of course you’d give them the weapons they would use if called to serve. “Weapons of war” are exactly what we are constitutionally allowed to keep and bear.
But SCOTUS doesn’t want us to have selective fire weapons — although their security details get to carry them. So they have to come up with some “history and tradition” or “in common use” BS to weasel their way out of the obvious.
Excellent point about no country using semi-automatic rifles. A cert on an injunction is dangerous. Most state jurisdictions seem to be disparent definitions however.
How can you honestly ban simple semi-auto rifles when we have 200K+ legally owned machine guns that are essentially regulated by just a tax stamp?