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Is "Law Trapped In Amber"?
Lesson for Chief Justice Roberts from Jurassic Park.
I first watched Jurassic Park when I was a few months shy of my ninth birthday. It was a formative experience for my youth. Three decades later, the blockbuster still holds up. I recently watched it with a performance by the Houston Symphony. Still brings the house down.
The premise of the movie is that scientists extracted dinosaur DNA from mosquitos who were trapped in amber. But the DNA found in the mosquitos was incomplete. There would be "massive sequence gaps," as Dr. Ian Malcolm told us. Instead, the scientists had to complete the genetic code with DNA from frogs. While all the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park were bred to be female, frogs had the power to change their sex. As a result, the dinosaurs were able to breed. And the rest is history.
I thought of Jurassic Park when I read what will likely be the most quoted sentence in Chief Justice Roberts's Rahimi majority opinion:
Nevertheless, some courts have misunderstood the methodology of our recent Second Amendment cases. These precedents were not meant to suggest a law trapped in amber.
Roberts no doubt made this line up, but may have been thinking of Jurassic Park.
Justice Sotomayor quotes the line in her concurrence:
Thankfully, the Court rejects that rigid approach to the historical inquiry. As the Court puts it today, Bruen was "not meant to suggest a law trapped in amber."
As does Justice Jackson:
The Court today expounds on the history-and-tradition inquiry that Bruen requires. . . . Ante, at 7–8. We emphasize that the Second Amendment is "not … a law trapped in amber."
Justice Barrett also embraces the line:
To be consistent with historical limits, a challenged regulation need not be an updated model of a historical counterpart. Besides, imposing a test that demands overly specific analogues has serious problems. To name two: It forces 21st-century regulations to follow late-18th-century policy choices, giving us "a law trapped in amber."
Justice Gorsuch's concurrence seems content to be bound by amber, but doesn't think there is amber here:
We have no authority to question that judgment. As judges charged with respecting the people's directions in the Constitution—directions that are "trapped in amber," see ante, at 7—our only lawful role is to apply them in the cases that come before us. Developments in the world may change, facts on the ground may evolve, and new laws may invite new challenges, but the Constitution the people adopted remains our enduring guide.
"Trapped in amber" is sort of like "judges are umpires." A quotable platitude that masks difficult jurisprudential decisions. This line will be used to give countless judges cover to break free from history.
In a way, what Chief Justice Roberts did in Rahimi is akin to what the scientists did in Jurassic Park. He extracted an incomplete historical record from long ago, merged it with some modern-day know-how to fill the gaps, and created some new creation that people want to see. Mosquitos are not trapped in amber anymore than surety laws are stuck in amber. What the Court did here is not originalism. It is recreationism. We're left with the Second Amendment merged with some frog DNA. Welcome to Jurassic Park.
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"He extracted an incomplete historical record from long ago"
The foundation, spirit, and guidestar of originalism.
This seems to be the MO for recent gun cases.
“Roberts concluded, ‘In Heller, McDonald, and Bruen, this Court did not ‘undertake an exhaustive historical analysis … of the full scope of the Second Amendment’’ (citing Bruen). Nor do we do so today.”
Just cherry pick your favorite factor from 200+ years ago and use that to justify your opinion.
Not a very consistent way to decide cases.
Isn’t the Roberts opinion objectively correct on this point? What is and isn’t constitutional should not be determined by what was available at the time / the laws of the time, but what was written in the constitution. Certainly the records at the time of writing should be used in interpretation, but the document is not so limited that the laws between 1788 - 1866 set its bounds.
Otherwise how can Congress create a law restricting, say, silencers? or mortars? cannon? There isn't a direct historical analogue to the SEC or the FEC. How would the FDA be constitutional if it was read so narrowly.
The alternative is a state of the law similar to Qualified Immunity, where if you can’t find an exactly identical law passed within this period (and who determines the relevant period?), then the law is not constitutional. And the law is rarely written to be so exactingly specific.
"How would the FDA be constitutional if it was read so narrowly."
Just ignore the question of "Should the FDA be constitutional?"
It’s fun living in a world of pure ideology, but if the Supreme Court decides alluva sudden the FDA is unconstitutional, how do you think that would go?
Remember when Burke was a conservative?
Yes the FDA is constitutional if it is properly delegated its authority.
I think it clearly is authorized by the commerce clause.
And I don’t think 50 state FDA’s would better serve us, as flawed as the FDA is.
I think we should give up on the idea that we can say what people who lived 200 years ago would have thought about issues they almost certainly never thought about.
Oh, no, no, no. We good originalists are not trying to divine the intent of the framers. We are just applying the original public meaning of words from 250 years ago. Because it is very easy to figure out what words used in general phrases (that were often themselves compromises) meant to “the public” 250 years ago. It is also easy to figure out who “the public” that had this universal understanding of what the words meant was – easy thing to apply our super-duper objective tools of originalism to determine. Simply put, originalism is completely objective because it is just applying the easy and objective task of what (at least) tens-of-thousands of people would have uniformly agreed to what words mean. Understand?
That all said, the real problem with originalism is that no one has really tried pure originalism, except for Clarence Thomas. Same reason why criticisms of communism based on the real-world results of it are not valid - no one has tried real and pure communism as Marx would have wanted. Got it?
Well played. In all seriousness, though, merely restricting oneself to what the words mean doesn't help that much either. I know what it means that the President shall be the Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy -- see Article II. But since the Marine Corps and Air Force aren't mentioned, the actual objective meaning of the words doesn't help. Do we say that what they really *meant* was the military, including any branches to be created in the future, or so we say that no, words mean what they mean, so the president's authority is limited to the Army and Navy?
Or do we say this entire line of reasoning is nucking futs and and abandon it? That would be my view.
Restricting to "original public meaning" of the words assumes so many things that it is just as dumb a method as trying to divine the one true intent of the Holy Framers of our Sacred Constitution.
And the Army/Navy example is actually one of the easier ones to figure out even using "originamalism" - an "air Army" is not hard to reconcile with the original public meaning. But there are much more indeterminate phrases like "the freedom of speech" or "due process of law" that had no unified "original public meaning" and pretending otherwise is foolish.
Where did the Founding Fathers stand on wife beating?
As most were right handed probably to her left
In all seriousness, I would think that they would consider it being done in public to be rather low-class. But your home is your castle and if husband deems it necessary to keep the peace of his house, it is A-OK. Murder or grievous bodily harm would be frowned but not sure it'd be totally criminal.
The defendant's brief in Rahimi addresses this issue. Violence towards wives was not approved of, but it was not consistently enforced.
Summary: No true Scotsman.
And the alternative is what? Making it up as we go along? That is, unelected judges appointed for life making it up as they go along...
Respectfully, I think that's the wrong question. The better question is why would we want to revert back to living in a society in which free speech meant nothing more than a ban on prior restraint, there was no right to counsel in criminal trials, no punishment that the legislature enacted was cruel and unusual, and the states could tyrannize pretty much anybody they didn't like. What exactly is the argument that we would be better off by giving up a significant chunk of the individual rights that have been hard fought and hard won?
To answer your question, to a certain extent we are going to make stuff up as we go along because even by the most generous interpretation the founders left a whole lot of questions unanswered. And I think the better approach is to recognize that even though the words have not changed, our understanding of what they mean has changed. Drastically. So we go with modern notions of due process rather than asking what James Madison would have thought.
I don’t think the Framers were originalists. At least not for this far into the future. They probably also didn’t think 237 years later we’d have essentially the same Constitution. Count back 237 years from 1787 and you’re almost in the reign of Henry VIII. Think of all the changes that took place during those centuries.
“The better question is why would we want to revert back to living in a society in which free speech meant nothing more than a ban on prior restraint, there was no right to counsel in criminal trials, no punishment that the legislature enacted was cruel and unusual, and the states could tyrannize pretty much anybody they didn’t like.”
Not sure who this “we” is you’re referring to but I saw Jan 6 news footage and no one can escape Trump and Bannon spouting off lists of political enemies due government-sponsored retribution. A very real segment of the populous is eager to dispense with protections for disfavored people–both individuals and entire classes of Americans. At least 30% of voting Americans are yearning for a return to a fantasy past where men were armed and women were obedient. Their understanding of the meaning and context of historic texts are informed by their present circumstances, beliefs, and desires. Trained historians struggle with various forms of bias in researching the past–people with PhDs who’ve immersed themselves in the field. Like logical fallacies to lawyers, there’s a list of common biases for historians to be aware of and avoid. But we live in a world with TikTok and Google search filled with people who know absolutely nothing about egocentrism bias or presentism. Sadly, these people include legislators, lawyers, and judges all trying to bend the past to their present goals.
Once again Prof. Blackman combines the obscure with the obtuse to create post that is as meaningless as it is incomprehensible. We are sure there is a point he is making, but what it is appears unknown to all, probably including the author.
If Prof. Blackman means to say that the 2nd A protects the right of the Defendant in the subject case to maintain an arsenal he should just come out and say it.
If he does not want to be on record that the Court should recognize that a person with the Defendant's history is entitled to stockpile deadly weapons with which to terrorize the public because of the backlash and ridicule such a position would engender (see Thomas, C) then he should just keep quiet on the subject.
The impetus for Crichton's book, as I recall, was a tentative claim by geneticists that they had successfully isolated dinosaur DNA. After much hoopla and further investigation, it turned out that the DNA they had isolated was from lab contamination, and not from dinosaurs. As I understand it, paleo DNA may look intact, but it's actually not viable
Shouldn’t be hard to clone Dinosaurs, they only went extinct 10-20 Thousand years ago
“When I’m in a slump, I comfort myself by saying if I believe in dinosaurs, then somewhere, they must be believing in me. And if they believe in me, then I can believe in me. And then I bust out.”
-NY Mets legend William Hayward Wilson (allegedly)
By taking DNA from Josh's hair every 10 years we would have a Josh who's 39 (like present), one who's 29, one who's 19 and one who's 9. Four Joshs! I wonder how their blog posts would differ.
The 9-year-old wouldn't have discovered the job prospects a law professor could get from being a member of the Federalist Society in world where politicians are waging war through partisan judicial appointments. 39-year-old Josh understands that some jobs come with perks like motorhomes and lavish trips and never having to admit your failings.
Roberts no doubt made this line up, but may have been thinking of Jurassic Park.
Did you forget your Westlaw password, or do you just not bother?
“The Board is obligated to “seek consistency” in its disciplinary decisions. But this obligation does not trap the Board in amber, rendering it unable to respond appropriately to the unique facts and circumstances presented in each case.” Lookhart v. Bd. of Dental Exam’rs, ___ P.3d ___ (Alaska May 24, 2024)
“Although stare decisis does not trap precedent in amber, the rationale offered today by the Court for making such a fundamental and abrupt change in the law comes nowhere close, in my view, to overcoming the restraint and circumspection we should have in order to take such a consequential step.” Finch v. U.S. Bank, 307 A.3d 1049, 1077 (Me. 2024) (Helm, A.R.J., dissenting).
“But Payne did not freeze this area of law in amber, and this Court has since issued multiple decisions about the permissible scope of victim impact testimony, including United States v. Barnette, 390 F.3d 775, 797-801 (4th Cir. 2004); United States v. Fulks, 454 F.3d 410, 436 (4th Cir. 2006); United States v. Runyon, 707 F.3d 475, 499-502 (4th Cir. 2013) and United States v. Roof, 10 F.4th 314, 376-78 (4th Cir. 2021).” U.S. v. Council, 77 F.4th 240, 262 (4th Cir. 2023).
“Turner does not set in amber the state of constitutional law in 1987.” Firewalker-Fields v. Lee, 58 F.4th 104 at n.2 (4th Cir. 2023).
“Despite ample encouragement from the two published appellate decisions adopting arguments much like the majority’s (see maj. opn., ante, at p. 1077 & fn. 14 [citing cases]), the Attorney General has studiously avoided arguing that Proposition 64’s savings provision for prison-related laws means that prosecutors may treat section 4573.6 as though it were partly suspended in amber, preserving division 10’s cannabis-related prohibitions as they existed before the proposition passed.” People v. Raybon, 492 P.3d 937, 961 (Cal. 2021) (Kruger, J., dissenting).
“Must the district court know the procedures in place on the date every case is filed and continue to apply old, superseded procedures? The rules of evidence from 1987 govern trial one week, but the rules of evidence from 1997 govern trial the next week, and the rules of evidence from 2007 govern trial the following week, and so on. Our cases have repeatedly rejected this trapped-in-amber approach.” Hrbek v. State, 958 N.W.2d 779, 783 (Iowa 2021).
” And fundamental tension surfaces in our case law between the ongoing evolution of common law claims and Belding’s (apparently) frozen-in-amber approach to the jury right.” McClain v. State, 171 N.E.3d 1228 (Ohio 2021) (Bergeron, J., dissenting).
“Opponents of development are free to seek amendments to the law to freeze the entire community in amber, but absent their success in doing so, this Court must apply the law as it is, which does permit change if proper procedures are followed, which this Court has found to be the case here.” Matter of Neighborhood in the Nineties v. City of New York, 24 Misc. 3d 1239(A) (N.Y. Sup. 2009).
“Yet like an ancient insect trapped in amber, the original language of Webster is still found intact in California law.” People v. Brigham, 599 P.2d 100 at n.13 (Cal. 1979).
“Earlier in our constitutional history, laws disenfranchising persons convicted of crime may have been immune from attack. But constitutional concepts of equal protection are not immutably frozen like insects trapped in Devonian amber.” Dillenburg v. Kramer, 469 F.2d 1222, 1226 (9th Cir. 1972).
Most people, like me, learned about prehistoric insects trapped in amber in science class, or from reading about paleontology, not from the movie. Josh's understanding of other people can be self-centered at times.
I still remember the ironic scene when the bad guy’s soda can gets buried in mud. To be dug up in 100 million years?
"Most people, like me, learned about prehistoric insects trapped in amber in science class, or from reading about paleontology, not from the movie. Josh’s understanding of other people can be self-centered at times."
It is ironic that you'd call out Josh for being self-centered, and yet you make a claim about how 'most people' learned about insects trapped in amber.
I suppose it didn't occur to you that you can't speak for 'most people' in this case, as the age of each individual has an extreme impact on whether they learned about such topics from school, from the movie, or from the book, or elsewhere.
Most people with a reasonable opportunity to read and go to school anytime from the early-mid 20th century through about 1975, knew insects trapped in amber as both a scientific curiosity and a cultural reference, well before 1993's Jurassic Park.
I don't blame Josh for learning of it from Jurassic Park at age 9, but for for lacking the intellectual curiosity and and cultural experience to possibly think "Roberts no doubt made this line up, but may have been thinking of Jurassic Park."
Shaving cream, wasn't it?
I read the sequels. They're fun, too, but they lack the surprise and twist of the original.
I thought the same thing. How can Blackman possibly think that phrase was coined by Roberts?
The oldest one I found referring to a legal doctrine was this:
"Giving a Latin name to the doctrine [of 'forum non conveniens'] did not mean that it had reached its full maturity and had lost all capacity for growth and accommodation, like a butterfly preserved in amber. As is true with so many doctrines in our law, the cases in which this doctrine has been applied give internal evidence of its capacity for accommodation." Vargas v. A. H. Bull S. S. Co., 44 N.J. Super. 536, 547, 131 A.2d 39, 44–45 (Law. Div.), aff'd, 25 N.J. 293, 135 A.2d 857 (1957).
But the phrase is obviously older. Here's an older example:
"[I]n her redirect examination this passage occurred, which, like the proverbial fly in amber, will be here preserved, as a legal curio...." State v. Huff, 61 S.W. 900, 903 (Mo. 1901)
This is getting so bad for Blackman that one would be tempted to feel sorry for him were he not such a vainglorious, antisocial, bigotry-embracing culture war casualty.
And of course, there's Vonnegut in 1969. Though that's far from the earliest literary reference, I'm just following Josh's I learned it from Jurassic Park at age nine, because I read Slaughterhouse 5 in high school, around 1972.
This is main character Billy Pilgrim, abducted by the Tralfamadorians:
Strict adherence to originalism sometimes produces terrible results. See, for example, Gonzales v. Raich 545 US 1 (where J. Scalia makes so many twists and turns to justify the result under an originalist theory that even Simone Biles would applaud his "flexibility").
If the Court ruled consistent with J. Thomas's dissent, there would have been a tsunami of backlash against the Court. It was simply unimaginable that the Court would have let folks with a propensity to violence to retain, use, stockpile, or sell handguns.
There was just no f'in way the Court was gonna do that. The results of applying 19th century law to the 21st century would have been devastating, not just to the victim of domestic violence, but to the Court's basic legitimacy.
The top priority of people in power is maintain that power. And that is exactly what happened here, to the chagrin of Prof Blackmun and originalism purists everywhere.
Axiom #1: The Supreme Court is always, always, always a political body. Full stop. For proof of this, consider the Dred Scott Decision and Brown v. Board of Education.
Corollary: Theories of constitutional interpretation are often helpful but will be ignored when the result is politically unfathomable.
"Hard cases make for bad law".
We need a similar catchphrase for easy cases and their tendency to make over-elaborated, pretentious law, as in Rahimi itself.
Mosquitos are not trapped in amber anymore than surety laws are stuck in amber.
Eh ? Mosquitos ARE trapped in amber. Not just 100 million years ago, but today as well.
The problem facing Richard Attenborough's gene nerds was that some of the DNA in the mosquito in the ancient amber had deteriorated and so couldn't be recovered. (In reality, all the DNA woud have deteriorated - it lasts a milion years or so, tops.)
DNA may last only a million years trapped in amber, but it lasts damned-near perpetually in the wild. A notable proof being that Josh Blackman relies upon frog DNA in bits here and there throughout his genome. The question whether Blackman's erratic and unpredictable utterances are properly understood as frog-DNA manifestations ought to be studied.
It still made for a valid but very nerdy analogy.
No, it's actually all fiction.
Falsehood masquerading as history. You know, like originalism.
The Rahimi Decision
https://x.com/garyonthenet/status/1805566148798218377
Trump must appoint Supreme Court nominees suggested by the CATO Institute, NOT the Federalist Society. The Federalist Society leans conservative-statist, which will only go so far for liberty & freedom.
That's why Barrett & Kavanaugh are so wobbly on fundamental freedoms, and not dependable.
Honestly, I might have said the same a decade ago. At this point, the Cato institute would just propose nominees who were bad in a different way.
Giving an inch to judges like Sotomayor and Jackson, instead of laying down fixed, bright line rules is sure to turn out great.
Judges such as Sotomayor and Jackson are going to win over the long term, regardless of what a bunch of culture war casualties do.
You obviously don't realize the Wise-Ass Latina has a Life Expectancy only slightly longer than Parkinsonian Joe's, she needs a Kidney, and thanks to our fucked up system, she can't just go and buy one.
Cringe