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Gen. Michael Flynn's Brother v. CNN "False Light" Lawsuit Dismissed
From today's decision by Judge Arun Subramanian (S.D.N.Y.) in Flynn v. CNN, Inc.:
Plaintiffs Jack and Leslie Flynn have sued Defendant Cable News Network … under Rhode Island's false-light statute. The Flynns claim $75 million in damages. The entire dispute stems from a six-minute segment and, more specifically, the segment's use of a two-second clip in which the Flynns appear. The Flynns say the segment falsely painted them as "QAnon followers."
The parties agree that QAnon is "an American conspiracy movement that began in 2017." The conspiracy centers around "Q," who is supposedly "a high-ranking government official" who "leak[s] top secret information" about the "Deep State." There have been about 5,000 of these leaks (or "Q drops"). The Flynns say that "a series of outlandish beliefs … have grown out of these Q drops." But just exactly what those beliefs are is unclear (and is one of the main subjects of this opinion). Before this suit was filed, Jack himself characterized QAnon as "[j]ust People doing their own research and learning independence of thought to find the truth."
The CNN report at issue aired in February 2021. It was framed around an October 2020 event called "Q Con Live!" The report opens with a series of short clips from the event, followed by the reporter's voiceover explaining that the footage was from a "gathering of QAnon followers in Arizona just two weeks before November's election." The video next shows the so-called QAnon Shaman, who is wrapped in a flag that says, "WHERE WE GO ONE WE GO ALL." The voiceover explains, "He's known as the QAnon Shaman, and he would go on to storm the Capitol in January." The video then cuts to someone at the event singing "where we go one, we go all." The voiceover then says, "'Where we go one, we go all': an infamous QAnon slogan promoted by Trump's first National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn."
At that point, the video cuts to the key clip. It shows a row of six people raising their right hands. Standing toward the middle of the group, Michael Flynn says, "Where we go one, we go all." Alongside Michael Flynn are Jack and Leslie, though they say nothing. The video then returns to Q Con, and the voiceover continues, "And played as an anthem at this meeting of Trump supporters." The rest of the segment discusses President Trump's refusal to disavow QAnon, the January 6 attack on the Capitol, and the QAnon movement more generally. Neither Jack nor Leslie is shown or mentioned again. Finally, for nearly the whole segment, there is a headline-style chyron that reads, "CNN GOES INSIDE A GATHERING OF QANON FOLLOWERS."
The Flynns originally had two claims: defamation per se and false light. Before this case was reassigned to me, the Court dismissed the defamation claim but not the false-light claim. CNN has now moved for summary judgment on the false-light claim….
"To recover under § 9-1-28.1(a)(4) [the Rhode Island] false light statute], [a] plaintiff must establish that there has been some publication of a false or fictitious fact which implies an association which does not exist; and the association which has been published or implied would be objectionable to the ordinary reasonable man under the circumstances." {In interpreting the statute, the Supreme Court of Rhode Island has imported many defamation doctrines, noting that plaintiffs should not be able to "evad[e] the limitations of a successful defamation action by using the alternate theory of a false-light claim."}
The Court assumes without deciding that the video was capable of implying that the Flynns were QAnon followers…. [But c] alling the Flynns "QAnon followers" was, in defamation law–speak, an opinion. And an opinion is "actionable only if it implies the allegation of undisclosed defamatory facts as the basis for the opinion." Put differently, "the dispositive inquiry here is … whether the challenged statement can reasonably be construed to be stating or implying [defamatory] facts about the [Flynns]."
Here, the statement neither stated nor implied defamatory facts, so it is a nonactionable opinion. This conclusion is based on two independent—but mutually reinforcing—grounds. First, the statement is unverifiable. And second, it was a comment on disclosed, nondefamatory facts. Both characteristics ensure that the reasonable viewer understands that the statement is the speaker's opinion (rather than stating facts) and that the speaker is not harboring additional, undisclosed facts to justify the statement. So Rhode Island law and the First Amendment demand its protection….
For more details, see the full opinion. For the earlier libel opinion, see this post.
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Trump fired Flynn because he urged Trump to order the Raid on Yakla which resulted in the death of a little American girl and 9 of her little friends and a member of SEAL Team 6 AND nothing of value was recovered. Oh, and Trump lied to SEAL’s father about the success of the mission who was justifiably livid.
Why Trump fired Flynn is not important.
Why better Americans disdain Flynn for having disgraced his uniform and sold out his country is important.
Trump’s FUBAR first military order is why the right wing echo chamber focuses on jacking up negatives of Democrats…because Trump’s presidency would have been over before it started had they covered that mission like Benghazi.
Evidence of any of that? The raid was previously planned under the Obama administration, and Flynn wasn't part of that. It was delayed until after Trump was in office because they were waiting for a night of full moon.
People should step back & recall just how sleazy Flynn is. After retiring, he whored his services to a really ugly clientele. For the Saudis, it was trying to relax national security restrictions so they could buy sensitive nuclear tech. For Turkey, it was first lobbying against the Kurds. Then came two meetings where Flynn discussed kidnapping a Turkish dissent living in the U.S, then smuggling the captive out of the country. The first meeting was at the 21 Club in New York and included Erdogan’s foreign and energy ministers (the latter also being the Turkish president’s son-in-law). The second was to discuss Flynn’s fee, which was to be 15 million. Please remember : These sessions plotting a kidnapping on American soil occurred after Flynn was picked by Trump to be National Security Advisor. It was just a little action on the side.
Of course Flynn also sold his services to Putin, collecting almost 50K to be the “American general” siting at Vladimir’s side during a lavish public event. Per Army regulations, he was supposed to get Pentagon approval before anything like that, but he didn’t bother.
Which proved a habit. This kind of whoring is legal as long as you disclose your status as a foreign agent and report any payments received. But Flynn ignored these requirements. No one knew exactly how often he’d broken the law until Mueller’s investigation much later, but the flurry of retroactive registrations after Trump’s NSA announcement made the lawbreaking clear at the time.
Thus the FBI knew Flynn had several contacts with his former employer, the Russian government. They knew he had lied about those contacts to multiple officials in the Trump Administration, including the Vice President. They knew he hadn’t followed the laws of transparency while acting as a foreign agent. So it’s predictable Flynn also lied to them during their interview.
Want to know what’s really funny? Right-Wing-World made much of the fact the FBI agents noted the brazen “sincerity” of Flynn’s lying. Somehow that was supposed to be exculpatory. But the point kinda falls apart when you recall they’d listened to multiple tapes of Flynn doing what he was denying. They knew he was lying to their face.
Was his active-duty brother in on the plan to invoke the insurrection act? I’d lay an internet dollar the answer is yes
Thank you for this excellent, concise but comprehensive summary of the odious Michael Flynn's activities immediately prior to and after being selected by Trump, against Obama's advice, as NSA.
Man, seems a lot less sleazy and scummy than the current (p)Resident.
That spelling thing started with birthers, but I guess never let a good shitpost die.
It sure does let people know how seriously to take you. Saves time.
You have to believe a lot of dumb shit to believe that, but your capacity is bottomless.
“But the point kinda falls apart when you recall they’d listened to multiple tapes of Flynn doing what he was denying. They knew he was lying to their face.”
You miss the point. The FBI wasn’t sincerely investigating his conversation with Russians (which was perfectly legal, btw). They were trying to “perjury trap” Flynn into lying to them, so they could use that as leverage to get dirt on Trump. Their entire ludicrous pretext was the Logan Act, a totally archaic law from the 1700s. The only reason it hasn’t been struck down as unconstitutional is because no one has ever been successfully prosecuted under it.
You also miss the point that this article is not about Michael Flynn but his brother Jack.
Well, given Flynn lied about his Russian contacts to multiple people in the Trump transition team / administration, then lied about the calls to Vice President Pence – how much of a “perjury trap” did the FBI need? He was talking to Russians high-up in the Kremlin behind the back of other Trump officials then covering his trail with incessant lying.
Given that - and the other dodgy things in his past - The FBI considered him a potential counterintelligence risk. Please explain why that wasn’t reasonable.
Of course they didn’t even know he been in on a plot to kidnap someone on U.S. soil.
He lied to them because he thought he may have committed a crime, and he was also trying to protect his son.
Yes, the FBI needed it if they wanted to charge him with something. Lying to Pence or to the Trump team isn't illegal. It is a specific crime to lie to the FBI however, so they had to set up a trap in order to charge him.
However as Alan Dershowitz pointed out, it's only a crime if you lie about something material to an investigation. So for example, you can't be charged for telling an FBI agent that she doesn't look fat in a dress when in fact she does. This was arguably not material, because the FBI already had Flynn on tape talking to Russians. They were only asking him questions they already had the answers to.
None of this was reasonable because the job of the FBI isn't to create crimes to charge people with. If Flynn was really giving secrets to the Russians or working against the interests of the United States, then they should have charged him with that. But he didn't, so they didn't.
Alan Dershowitz is lying to you.™ That's not what "material" means. Every court that has addressed the matter — and the argument has been made many times — has rejected the argument, "It's not material because they already knew what the answer was."
The FBI did not "create crimes" here. Michael Flynn did. If he had just told the truth about his conversations with the Russians, that would've been the end of it.
And even if this were a so-called perjury trap, how awful is it that the president's fucking National Security Advisor isn't smart enough to know that one cannot legally lie to the FBI?
If your strongest argument against him is that he lied to the FBI, that’s not much of an argument. That's a process crime.
Where is all the treason and Russian collusion we were promised?
Right. I understand it’s pretty common for people in or adjacent to the U.S. government to talk to people who happen to be Russian.
You could rub elbows with someone at a party, or have some mundane conversation, and then have some apparatchiks drumming up accusations and innuendo like with Jeff Sessions.
M L : “You could rub elbows with someone at a party….”
On the day Obama anounced sanctions against Russia over their meddling in our elections, Flynn held five separate phone conversations with the Russian ambassador. Three points:
1. He lied about the calls to others in the incoming Trump Administration in under two weeks.
2. This was barely a year after Flynn himself was an employee of the Russian government.
3. And as David Nieporent notes above, how brain-dead stupid must you be not to consider the Ambassador’s calls were monitored?
The thing is, there's a very easy way for someone to avoid being caught in a "perjury trap". All they have to do is tell the truth.
Flynn was worried he had committed a crime (he hadn't), and he wanted to protect his son, so he lied. Yes, he shouldn't have lied.
Or better yet, he should have said nothing other than to tell the FBI to take a flying leap and that he will only speak to them with a lawyer present.
Protecting his son was his retroactive excuse for pleading guilty, not for lying to the FBI in the first place. His son had no involvement in these conversations he was having with the Russians; that was about FARA violations.
John Rohan : "... he wanted to protect his son ..."
True enough. But he brought his son into criminal activity. If Flynn had not flouted the laws on registering as a foreign agent, there wouldn't have been a problem. You don't think he knew what was and wasn't legal? Maybe he should have protected his son by not making him a party to lawbreaking.
“You also miss the point that this article is not about Michael Flynn but his brother Jack.”
Well, kinda about Michael too, and observing there’s more about Michael being Q-Anon than Jack:
Do the conservatives here agree that being associated publicly with QAnon is defamatory? So defamatory in fact that the damages would be 75mil?
If E Jean Carroll can get 88 mil from Trump calling her crazy, then the Flynns should get at least that or more...
You appear to be commenting about Jack and Leslie Flynn, the subjects of the article.
Everyone else is commenting about Michael Flynn.
So… yes? It is defamatory?
The allegation wasn’t that CNN called them crazy