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"Despite Police Pushback, Biden Presses On With Visit To Syracuse After Two Cops Were Just Slain"
From the Daily Caller:
Biden is set to travel to the city on Thursday to promote the CHIPS and Science Act and announce a grant delivered by the legislation, according to CNY Central News. The president opted not to delay the trip following the loss Syracuse Police Officer Michael Jensen and Onondaga County Lt. Sheriff's Deputy Michael Hoosock in the line of duty on April 14 during a shootout.
Because officers are still grieving the loss, local law enforcement expressed worry to the White House over the timing of the trip, Jeff Moran, the president of the Syracuse Police Benevolent Association, the union representing the city's officers, told the Daily Caller.
"The department expressed their concerns to the Biden administration regarding his visit, and the quick turnaround of a Syracuse police officer being buried and an Onondaga County Sheriff's deputy being buried, and then the manpower that it would take and everything that our members have been through in the past week. Those concerns were expressed to the Biden administration and the Biden administration elected to move forward with the visit," Moran told the Daily Caller.
The article also quotes several Republican members of Congress who are echoing this objection.
I sympathize with the police officers' grief; it's a department of 400 officers, so I expect that many officers knew the officers who were killed a week ago. But I've got to say that I don't really support this as a basis for asking the President not to show up. Grief or no, I imagine the police force is up to the job, which is to provide protection both for ordinary events and unusual events, whatever recent events might have been.
I know we often see college students asking for exams to be postponed because bad things have happened. I'm pretty skeptical about such requests, but I certainly wouldn't extend them to adult workers, especially ones of whom we expect a great degree of professionalism and stoicism.
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Amen! As much as I despise government, that union rep is the epitome of arrogance to suggest that grieving cops aren't up to doing their job and need the President to not complicate their snowflake lives.
When you say you "...wouldn't extend them to adult workers..." the first thing that comes to mind is that with very few exceptions college students are adults, too.
It’d be nice if they acted like adults.
Remember when Trump delayed life because of a virus. Oh noooooos, I don’t want to get the sniffles!?! Can you spend $20 billion developing a cure that kills young men?? Thankies!!
"Moran told the Daily Caller." Seems a conclusive tell.
Yes, its putting up with Joe, not the grief real.as.it may be.
The same dynamic where the police union told NY politicians not to show up for the Long Island cops funeral.
Seems like a good day for a massive epidemic of the blue flu
Yes, double down on being snowflakes.
Why should they do anything for a POS who wants them dead, homeless or in jail?
I agree -- and have their wives chant "Fuck Joe Biden from the route.
I agree this isn't a good reason to delay the trip. That said, I wish more state and local departments would tell the feds to take a hike, they aren't participating in the massive, ridiculous, disruptive theater that occurs during a presidential movement. Whomever is in office is an employee of the people, not our imperial ruler.
Got that right. Honesty, aren't we at this point just totally ignoring the Nobility clause, in the way we treat Presidents?
No. This has been yet another episode of Simple Answers to Stupid Questions.
I dunno, the NYPD seem to love shutting shit down for presidential visits in NYC, especially when they can give the finger to some constituency they dislike (e.g., black/brown people, cyclists, ordinary residents of the city as opposed to tourists, etc.). They spent days preparing for the Biden fundraiser in midtown, and will routinely do things like shut down bridge crossings in order to let a motorcade go underneath.
I think the only conflict here is that they were already planning to do all of that shit for something else.
More likely the cops were offended by having to guard a pol they detest, and came up with the funeral snowflake argument to avoid saying the quiet part out loud.
We need to find a way to attract a far better group of people to law enforcement and the military.
Bettors? Like you? EV told me to be kind and gentle, so take that FWIW
We need law enforcement and military personnel with better education, better judgment, better temperament, better training, better accountability, better equipment, better management, better discipline, and better character.
As someone in uniform, I say you are insulting people who sacrifice to make others safe.
We have to do our job whether we like the people or not. But if you give us a CHOICE, we would choose not to put in extra work for someone we despise (and whose supporters despise us).
I'm not sure if the snowflakery of the police union is representative of the cops as a whole. I expect that many of them will be as happy with their security duties as with any other part of the job.
On a totally unrelated issue, we've gotten accustomed to Presidents using public resources to make campaign appearances in the guise of "just a normal official function." Snowflake cops aren't helping with this problem, of course, but it does occur to me as an independent problem.
I expect the reception will be frosty, regardless.
Obviously this attempt to cancel owes more to police sentiments about these politicians and this administration, which make clear on a daily basis that they'll take any anti police stance that might garner a few votes, and their revulsion must be exacerbated by their fellow officers' recent deaths in this environment: Defund the police, don't prosecute criminals, embolden retail theft gangs, legalize street living and addiction, import millions of illegals, and so much more. At the same time they're hearing: Oh hey yeah set aside your duties to focus the city on the nominal leader of this catastrophic dismantling of American society if not civilization.
I can see that might be hard to take without resentment or despair.
C'mon Man! it's Parkinsonian Joes chance to tell everyone about his son who died in Iraq!
Frank
Citing the Daily Caller now.
Anyway - I don't know how the cops do funerals upstate, but here in NYC a cop funeral usually involves an overwhelming display of force by the NYPD. There's a procession of cops in their cars out to someplace on Long Island; they shut down most of midtown around their preferred cathedral and muck up things for a couple of days. Suffice it to say that most of these cops aren't doing much during the festivities, or whatever they are, taking the general slowdown as a reason to rack up overtime and shoot the shit while they monitor street corners and pedestrian barriers.
So I'm sure that is why they're claiming to be concerned about staffing. This was supposed to be a two-three day holiday for the cops in Syracuse. If Biden shows up they'll have to pretend to do their jobs.
Wow, lot of hate for the Po Po in this crowd, what I like is Sleepy Joe feels it necessary to cam-pain in Upstate New York.
Good police officers should welcome the improvements decent Americans proposed (training, education, equipment, management, accountability, temperament, judgment, etc.). Bad officers can't be stripped of their badges, uniforms, and guns soon enough.
Big Surprise, Coach Sandusky isn't a fan of Law Enforcement.
Memo to Syracuse cops: You brothers in blue were buried over a week ago. Do the job, be professional.
"Do the Job"? "Be Professional"? that can be taken sooooooooooooooo many ways.