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Second Amendment Roundup: ATF redefines "engaged in the business"
Agency pushes the envelope to require gun dealer licenses beyond the statute.
ATF's Final Rule Definition of "Engaged in the Business" as a Dealer in Firearms amounts to 466 pages of responses to comments and the final rule itself. Over 252,000 of the 258,000 comments or 98% in favor of the proposed rule were form letters with identical text found online and recommended by (anti-gun) organizations. Only 5,140 were not form letters. Of the 99,000 comments opposed to the rule, 80,000 or 81% were form letters. That means that 18,810 were not form letters. So more than three times the numbers of opponents filed comments with actual substance as did those in favor.
The final rule is substantially the same as the proposed rule. See my previous post "'He's at it again!' Merrick Garland proposes ever-more intrusive ATF regulations." A number of points that I (and others) made in comments filed in opposition to the proposed rule were taken seriously enough for ATF to reject at length.
One new item stands out. The Gun Control Act (GCA) excludes occasional sales and purchases of a "personal collection" of firearms from the term "engaged in the business" of dealing in firearms. The proposed rule defined "personal collection" to include curios and relics and firearms used in recreational activities. In response to numerous comments criticizing the proposal for not including firearms used for self-defense, the final rule explicitly states that "the term [personal collection] shall not include firearms accumulated primarily for personal protection." Yet nothing in the statute excludes such firearms from being part of a personal collection.
By purporting to exclude the occasional buying and selling of firearms acquired for self-defense from the "personal collection" category, the rule would render the person more likely to be subject to the licensing requirement. Yet that category was enacted by the Firearm Owners' Protection Act of 1986, which declared that the rights of citizens … to keep and bear arms under the second amendment to the United States Constitution … require additional legislation to correct existing firearms statutes and enforcement policies." And the Supreme Court stated in D.C. v. Heller that the Second Amendment protects "arms 'in common use at the time' for lawful purposes like self-defense."
In defining "engaged in the business" as a dealer, the rule states that "there is no minimum threshold number of firearms purchased or sold that triggers the licensing requirement," and that "even a single firearm transaction or offer to engage in a transaction, when combined with other evidence … may require a license." Sounds pretty vague given that engaging in business of dealing in firearms without a license is a serious felony.
The rule purports to create a presumption in civil and administrative proceedings that one is engaged in the business if one "repetitively resells or offers for resale firearms" within 30 days after purchase, or within a year after purchase if the firearms are "new, or like new in their original packaging" or "the same make and model, or variants thereof." These are activities in which collectors typically engage – sometimes quickly moving the collection up the ladder with more collectible acquisitions and collecting variations of the same make and model. Nothing in the GCA imposes such time limits.
The rule also purports to create a presumption in civil and administrative proceedings that "a person has intent to predominantly earn a profit" if the person "posts firearms for resale, including through the Internet" or repetitively rents "a table or space at a gun show," and the list of presumptions "are not exhaustive." Again, these are activities in which collectors typically engage. And the statute excludes from such "predominant intent to earn a profit" occasional sales to enhance a personal collection.
The rule claims that the above rebuttable presumptions do not apply in criminal cases, but says the opposite by stating that "they may be useful to courts in criminal cases, for example, when instructing juries regarding permissible inferences." Jury instructions are based on statutory text and judicial opinions, not advocacy by the very agency involved in prosecuting alleged violations.
Many comments argued that the rule violates the Second Amendment. While dictum in Heller did not question the validity of "laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms," the new rule – which is not a "law" – redefines "engaged in the business" to include many private, non-commercial sales.
ATF's commentary includes the following fundamental misunderstanding of Supreme Court precedent: "In response to commenters stating that the Department should not use the Heller two-step process, the Department acknowledges that Bruen abrogated the 'two-step' framework of Heller, as 'one step too many,' and rejected the application of means-end scrutiny at the second step." But it was lower courts that obstructed Heller, not Heller, that invented the two-step framework. Relying on text and history, Heller rejected means-ends scrutiny (for which Justice Breyer argued in his dissent), and N.Y. State Rifle & Pistol Ass'n v. Bruen reinforced and expanded on that rejection.
In support of its expansion of the licensing requirement, ATF's response seeks to find historical analogues under Bruen in the wrong places. In 1794, Congress restricted the export of arms and matériel in order to enhance the arming of America at a time when war with Great Britain threatened. The colonies restricted arms trade with Indians to reduce the threat from hostile tribes. Massachusetts enacted a gun proving law. Various laws concerning gunpowder were enacted to ensure a safe, reliable supply. None of these laws parallels the "how" and the "why" of the rule's radical expansion of the licensing requirement.
ATF's commentary fails to rebut the comments that the agency lacks delegated authority to promulgate the rule. In enacting the Gun Control Act in 1968, Congress rejected a provision that would have made it a crime to violate a regulation. Instead, all GCA offenses are defined in terms of violations of "this chapter," i.e., chapter 44 of 18 U.S.C., the criminal code. The Firearm Owners' Protection Act of 1986 reduced ATF's regulatory authority by changing the original phrase "such rules and regulations as he [the Secretary] deems reasonably necessary" to "only such rules and regulations as are necessary." Finally, the delegation by Congress to ATF to promulgate explicit, limited regulations negates the power to adopt expansive, general regulations under the rule expressio unius est exclusio alterius.
The commentary also fails to rebut comments citing Supreme Court precedents such as Thompson/Center Arms v. U.S. holding that both criminal and noncriminal applications of a statute must be interpreted consistently and, if ambiguity exists, interpreted against the government in accord with the rule of lenity.
Finally, on some issues ATF is plainly erroneous but sticks to its error nonetheless. For instance, the GCA prohibits an FFL from transferring a firearm in interstate commerce to a non-FFL, but exempts "returning a firearm or replacement firearm of the same kind and type to a person from whom it was received." 18 U.S.C. § 922(a)(2)(A). ATF adds the limitation that it may be returned only "for the sole purpose of repair or customizing," which it justifies because the phrase "has long been found in the regulations." Never admit a mistake, especially if it is longstanding.
"As more persons become licensed under this rule, those licensees will conduct more background checks," as the commentary correctly states. Indeed, that is its purpose. Since Congress rejected universal background checks, the Biden Administration decided to do the same by regulation.
This rule on "engaged in the business" is the third major set of new regulations set forth by Attorney General Garland, following those on "frames-or-receivers" and "pistol braces." They were preceded by the Trump Administration's "bump-stock" rule, which is the subject of Cargill v. Garland, which was argued in the Supreme Court this term. We'll see whether the Court sets limits on what has become a constant pushing of the envelope of regulatory overreach by the executive branch.
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As I posted last week, the Commissioner of the Washington Supreme Court scheduled a hearing on April 17 regarding the stay he issued against the injunction against enforcement of the state's magazine ban that was ruled unconstitutional by the Superior Court for Cowlitz County in State of Washington v. Gator's Custom Guns. At the hearing, the Commissioner responded to criticism for his issuance of the stay without having time to study the court's 55-page ruling and the state's 32-page motion to stay. He stated that he received the papers on April 8 at 4:14 pm and issued the stay at 4:58 pm. He didn't need more time to review the papers because he had done "a lot of research" beforehand and made himself into an expert on the issue; he "anticipated all the arguments the Attorney General would make" and had "boiler plate templates" for the stay order.
Most of the "hearing" consisted of the Commissioner's musings. A 12-gauge shotgun or a revolver would be good enough for self-defense. A semiautomatic works fine with 5 or 10 rounds. Judge Benitez's decision in Duncan v. Bonta holding California's magazine ban violative of the Second Amendment was based on experts who were "snake oil" salesmen. The arms that pioneers had when Washington was settled were "mind-bogglingly" different than now. The Commissioner anticipates a decision next week on whether the stay will be made permanent. Don't hold your breath waiting for it to be lifted.
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Buying a '24 Honda Accord, a '22 Mustang, and a '22 Corolla wouldn't make anyone think I was a car collector any more than the sheet of Forever stamps in my desk would make me a stamp collector or my loose change a coin collector.
I don't think "most comments are against me" proves what you think it does
I don't think your inability to differentiate between form comments and individual comments proves anything other than your desire to ignore reality.
And Biden claims Trump will rule as an authorization.
Best way to convince people that Biden cares about our rights and won't throw people in jail just by promulgating new regulations is to stop issuing new regulations to throw people in jail.
We voted for someone to faithfully execute the laws as written by Congress, not a dictator to write his own law.
Who is this "we" you speak of?
Kazinski, you can be certain—absolutely certain—that your right to keep and bear arms is safer with any American institutionalist, Biden, for instance, or Liz Cheney, or Bernie Sanders, than it will be with Trump. At the first sign that any rival of similar temperament would oppose Trump in office, the right to arms would contract to encompass only those most demonstrably loyal to Trump.
That loyalty would be subject to daily surveillance. Totalitarians rely on totalitarian methods. Trump is a self-proclaimed totalitarian, and you unwisely ignore it
So far, any and all who have reposed trust in Trump have been exploited as suckers. Why will it be any different if Trump in power decides he is endangered by armed rivalry practiced according to his own standards? Trump projects his own personal paranoia on everyone. In power, he would never encourage or protect armed civilian force he did not personally control.
Your own blind animosity toward Biden is evidence to show it. Biden is nowhere near the danger to American liberty that Trump has been, and will continue to be.
You have been duped into thinking otherwise. If you are troubled by any notion that this comes to you from a Biden loyalist, which I am not, just reflect for a moment on the history of totalitarian governments and private arms anywhere.
I trust that in writing this I have not given given credit where it is not due. If you count yourself a would-be Trumpist blackshirt, then of course you will reject this caution from me.
That's a whole lot of projection.
But its true...
...about Biden.
You can also be sure that Stephen's TDS is so bad that it makes him spout feces.
What they actually mean by "rule as an authoritarian" is that he might stop the bureaucracy from continuing to enforce Democratic policies while a Republican is in the White House. He's actually make their losing the election matter, which they find intolerable.
Seriously, they actually do mean that he'd issue orders, and force the people under him to actually follow them instead of blowing them off as largely happened last time. That's why Biden just finished instituting a new rule instituting job protections for the bureaucracy, so that they can't be fired if Trump is elected.
New Biden rule aims to protect US federal employees if Trump is elected
They're preparing to rule from the bureaucracy if they lose the election.
No, they're not, and that isn't why that rule was created.
Fuck, you're a dumb conspiratorialist.
"No, they’re not, and that isn’t why that rule was created."
So why was that rule created?
I'd call you pronoid, except that you're actually hoping this is what's going on, and demanding that Republicans pretend otherwise.
pronoid?
Forget it, he's rolling. Just like he was when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!!!!
:-0)
If I had a blog that attracted fans such as Kazinski and Brett Bellmore, I would change my ways.
If I were dean of a school whose faculty member's blog attracted fans such as Kazinski and Mr. Bellmore, I would be counting the days until that disaffected professor cleaned out his office and departed the campus.
Carry on, clingers . . . so far as better Americans permit.
Teacher says every time the Reverend Sandusky says “Klinger” a Penn State recruit gets his Diddle-Wings”
Frank
Is it true that Kirkland heads to WalMart every time he hears they have little boys shorts half-off?
Asking for a friend.
What they actually mean by “rule as an authoritarian” is that he might stop the bureaucracy from continuing to enforce Democratic policies while a Republican is in the White House.
Brett, this is how regulations work, by operation of law. A new president can't just not enforce regulations that are duly promulgated under validly-enacted statutes. The president may direct the agencies to reconsider those prior regulations, evaluate them in light of new evidence, and revise them. But simply refusing to enforce "Democratic policies" that have been codified as regulations is not within his power.
That's by design, under perfectly valid law that binds the executive's authority to write, withdraw, or revise regulations. It's a key piece of our rule of law in this country, and it binds Democrats just as much as it binds Republicans. This is why it's taken years for some of these regulations to start coming out - Biden's administration can't just ignore Trump's regulations. He has to enforce them.
Of course - Trump hasn't helped himself here. By doing things via executive action and slowing down the pace of regulation, he went for the quick and easy media cycle hits he craved, rather than putting in place well-considered rules that Biden couldn't easily replace.
"A new president can’t just not enforce regulations that are duly promulgated under validly-enacted statutes."
Oh really?
We all know one of the first things modern presidents do is issue a raft of executive orders on day one telling the bureaucracy to quit enforcing some of their predecessors regulations and to start drafting new regulations to replace them.
Saying everyone’s gotta follow Trump now or else they’re liberals doing Democratic things is authoritarian, Brett.
Trump tried to prosecute Hillary, spend money in ways that it wasn’t appropriated, and generally rule as a single monarch without worrying about agency process or Congress.
He was prevented. Often by his own appointees following the law and procedures. He got super mad about it, which would be a sign to anyone not blinded by partisanship.
To you, that’s what prevented liberty from ringing free.
You’re an authoritarian, Brett. You’ve bought into a cult of personality and are an enemy of freedom.
You continue to be the worst libertarian ever.
What was the case number or charge on the prosecution of Hillary? I'd like to look that up.
Do you know what the word tried means? Because your question is pretty stupid if you consider what tried means.
Trump tried to prosecute Hillary
It's all over Trump's tweets, and all over the Internet.
He tried to browbeat Jeff Sessions,
he demanded it from the deputy AG after he fired Sessions;
he demanded it from WH Counsel,
when Barr came on board he demanded it of him.
And bizarrely demanded it of the Secretary of state.
Can you cite ANY of this?
Great! all of these new "Dealers" will be able to buy guys wholesale like I did in the 90's when I had an FFL, of course back then you had to sell guns regularly or they thought you were a Collector just adding to their collection, how times have changed.
Initial prosecutions will tell how this new rule plays out. Will cases be opened to address major gun trafficking? Or will cases target personal transactions between local fish and game club members? If the latter, the attempt is to chill ‘gun culture’.
The process will be the punishment
Calling Doctor SCOTUS! We have another administrative tumor that needs to be excised immediately, before it metastasizes!
Almost be worth the hassle to get an FFL just to be able to run background checks on people, not that anyone would do(does?) that
Wonder what the background check on Hunter turned up.
ATF murdered the Executive Director of the Bill & Hillary Rodman Airport in Little Rock last month, supposedly for selling guns without a license, now it turns out that coincidentally, the ATF agents involved weren't wearing their body cams, has Merrick Garland fired anyone yet? Yes, the unfortunate departed did shoot at the guys busting down his door unannounced at 6am (sunrise wasn't until 7:16) who here wouldn't? OK, what real men here wouldn't?
Frank
Mainstream reports indicated that loser punch his own ticket. He improved modern America by departing. Other gun nuts and misfits may be cranky about it, but I sense most Americans are content.
You believe the Marxist Stream Media? Reverend! I’ve got some Weapons of Mass Destruction(don’t get too excited, it’s “Mass” not “Ass”) I can get you wholesale!
Frank
Merrick Garfinkel is a traitor.
What, in your judgment, is Eugene Volokh (or the person who calls himself Eugene Volokh; his reported "real" name, by your standards, is Yevhen Volodymyrovych Volokh).
That guy endorses un-American insurrectionists for elected office. An immigrant, he pals around with plenty of America-haters. He operates a propaganda site (with several others who either weren't born in America or have left America to live elsewhere) that bashes mainstream America and modern America.
If Merrick Garfinkel is a traitor, what is this person who wants us to call him Eugene Volokh?
An honest man!
I would do the wave for EV
Stephen, this a quick hit list of gripes, but too many of them are question-begging and underdeveloped to take seriously.
Arguing that a rule attempting to define commercial activity must be too broad because it can pick up "collectors" doesn't prove anything (outside of the Fifth Circuit, anyway). It just potentially means that "collectors" are sometimes engaged in commercial activity as effectively "gun dealers."
The constitutional arguments go nowhere, unless you are making a broader argument that even a narrowly-drawn regulation would violate the Second Amendment under Heller/Bruen. Maybe there's an argument there! But it's a little absurd to invoke the historical analogue test as relevant to an incremental change to the underlying law and regulatory regime. In other words, how could it be unconstitutional to regulate one group of infrequent gun dealers, but constitutional to regulate another? No explanation is on offer.
A similar question can be raised about the statutory authority provision. You are making much of the word "only" and the difference between an apparently discretionary grant to do what is "reasonably necessary" and what is "necessary," and I would agree that the distinction must be relevant somehow. But how? What makes these rules not "necessary," in the required sense? Again, no explanation is offered.
Generally, Stephen, I am happy to pass over your posts, because I don't care much for gun rights. So I haven't had the opportunity to really consider your competence directly. But this? This is trash. Try harder.
Yes, we know the only rights you care about are killing babies and getting taxpayer paid for transgender surgeries.
What about the rights of rampant members, Balisane?
You mean the raging members that erupt inside other men (an image plenty of Volokh Conspiracy fans seem unable to stop thinking about)?
The Volokh Conspiracy: Official Legal Blog of Officially Not Gay Republicans.
(That entire video is worthwhile. As I recall, most of those fledgling wingnuts became Republican lobbyists, Republican legislative staffers, Fox Newsers, small-time Republican elected officials, etc.)
SimonP, Halbrook is merely continuing the long-time gun advocate practice to argue two standards of law, one for presumptive criminals, one for presumptive non-criminals, with the latter defined as the set of gun advocates. And by the way, activities engaged in, whether constitutionally protected or not, do not affect which group is relevant.
Is a gun advocate also a vigilante gun intimidator, engaging in activities with zero constitutional protection? Doesn't matter; he is law-abiding by definition. Short of murder itself (defined surprisingly narrowly), everything you can do with a gun is law-abiding, if you are a member of the gun-advocate group. That is how the advocacy is structured, and the unanimity with which it is chorused lends it a kind of political credence.
“It just potentially means that “collectors” are sometimes engaged in commercial activity as effectively “gun dealers.””
A lot of these collectors used to have FFLs, but going back to Clinton the ATF started revoking or refusing to renew the licenses of FFLs who weren’t doing enough business.
https://clyde.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=253
So now is the ATF going to reverse that policy and let collectors apply for FFLs, or are the going to stack the expanded definition of “Engaged in the Business” on top of the old minimum threshold of business activity requirement, so that the affected collectors can neither sell guns as private sellers nor get an FFL.
I expect you've got it right: They're going to continue to enforce the Clinton era policy that made most 'gun dealers' lose their FFLs, while defining BEING a 'gun dealer' so broadly that everybody who doesn't make a point of losing money if they sell a gun qualifies as one.
This administration is simply radically hostile to the 2nd amendment, and hardly even pretends otherwise.
That, coupled with the Democrats' outright refusal to allow the NICS to be open to private sellers, makes their intent very clear.
Here's a radical thought. If the government wants to change the definition of "dealer" why don't they get Congress to pass legislation?
Did Congress create a definition for, "dealer," in the relevant legislation, or did it leave that to the regulators?
OK at least you’re not Dr Ed, opining as an Expert on any topic he read an “(Insert Subject here) for Dummies” book on, “Dealer” has been what the ATF says it is since the 1968 Gun Control law (really controlled bundle, didn’t it?)
Don’t know if they still have it, since I’ve got everthing I want, but ATF used to have a “Curios & Relics” License where you could buy some pretty cool guns directly from dealers, FFL was the much better way to go
Frank
Assume that Congress didn't define "dealer". Why does/should that mean the regulator gets to create it's own definition rather than telling Congress "We can't enforce this properly unless you define 'dealer'."?
Which is why I'd prefer a President to refuse to enforce ANYTHING until Congress actually defines what they mean explicitly.
What? You mean something like this:
SEC. 12002. DEFINING “ENGAGED IN THE BUSINESS”.
Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended–
(1) in paragraph (21)(C), by striking “with the principal
objective of livelihood and profit” and inserting “to
predominantly earn a profit”;
[[Page 136 STAT. 1325]]
(2) by redesignating paragraphs (22) through (29) as
paragraphs (23) through (30), respectively; and
(3) by inserting after paragraph (21) the following:
“(22) The term `to predominantly earn a profit’ means that the
intent underlying the sale or disposition of firearms is predominantly
one of obtaining pecuniary gain, as opposed to other intents, such as
improving or liquidating a personal firearms collection: Provided, That
proof of profit shall not be required as to a person who engages in the
regular and repetitive purchase and disposition of firearms for criminal
purposes or terrorism. For purposes of this paragraph, the term
`terrorism’ means activity, directed against United States persons,
which–
“(A) is committed by an individual who is not a national or
permanent resident alien of the United States;
“(B) involves violent acts or acts dangerous to human life
which would be a criminal violation if committed within the
jurisdiction of the United States; and
“(C) is intended–
“(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
“(ii) to influence the policy of a government by
intimidation or coercion; or
“(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by
assassination or kidnapping.”.
As some of you may recall from previous comments, I generally oppose new gun control legislation, but I don't pretend it doesn't exist when it really does.
Just ask Bryan Malinowski, the Little Rock airport executive greeted by ATF agents in a pre-dawn raid of his home, just how ATF intends to enforce Biden's new rules. Oh, wait . . . you can't. At least his family survived and will have a home to return to after burying their father/husband, unlike the wives & children following the Waco raid 31 years ago.
He was also shooting at ATF folks, and the facts beyond that haven't come out, so don't weave yourself a story yet.
The ATF claims he was shooting at their agents. But their agents were not wearing body cameras (against policy).
So we have only the ATF's word that:
1. The ATF agents identified themselves as federal agents.
2. That Bryan Malinowski shot at the ATF agents.
It's telling that when I said, “the facts beyond that haven’t come out” you think that meant I was jumping to conclusions wherein the ATF were innocent and this guy was bad.
What part of "the agents were not wearing body cameras, contrary to policy", do you not understand?
They went in making sure there would be no recording to contradict their stories.
That, by itself, is enough reason to think they're lying.
There are plenty of reasons why cop-types don't wear body cameras.
None of them reflect very well on their organization, but hardly all of them are a planned coverup of a plan to shoot some dude for having a gun.
There are plenty of reasons why somebody under investigation destroys evidence, too, but hardly all of them are a planned coverup.
But it's still the case that, if you're under investigation, and you destroy evidence relevant to that investigation, it's assumed to be evidence of something incriminating. Spoilation.
You place tape over the security camera. You unplug the security camera. You find and erase the recordings from the security camera. Why is only the third incriminating?
Why is deliberately not creating the evidence in the first place different in your mind from deliberately destroying it after the fact? There's no particular reason to think the motives and the consequences are any different, after all.
This is a continuing pattern of yours: You, rather selectively, refuse to draw reasonable inferences from the facts before you, if they would force you to arrive at conclusions you don't like. That's all too human, but it's still irrational.
When a group of cops who are supposed to wear badge cams all fail to do so on the same day and job, and then shoot somebody, any rational person concludes that they knew going in that it would hurt their interests if there was objective proof of what happened. Maybe they didn't intend to shoot the guy, maybe they had something ELSE unsavory in mind. But no reasonable person looks at a fact pattern like that and sees innocence.
if you’re under investigation, and you destroy evidence relevant to that investigation, it’s assumed to be evidence of something incriminating. Spoilation.
This is not some legal proceeding, Brett, full of incentives and legal fictions.
It's the real world. You're bootstrapping yourself into another conspiracy. You have something in you that seeks this kind of delusionary reality.
You are not a reasonable person. A reasonable person would wait until more facts come out than taking one fact and just weaving a story.
Are we supposed to believe that this early 50s professional went apeshit and started firing on people he knew to be law enforcement?
We aren't supposed to believe anything until we know more.
Have you ever had the self-control to reserve judgement once in your life?
Occam's Razor applies here to this case.
What is the story Occam's Razor tells you?
Bellmore, if you plan to confront a group of armed assailants, what is worse than not having a gun? Time and again having a gun turns out worse. Why is it so hard for gun advocates to learn that lesson?
Dunno.
The death toll in gun-free zones is pretty high.
That might be worse.
You've watched too many Kung Fu movies. Parkinsonian Joe's Security Guards certainly think guns are useful.
Lathrop, years ago a flatbed steel hauler was parked on the shoulder across from our plant, and a van full of commuters had to avoid some idiot passing in the opposite direction; The flatbed took to top off the passenger side of the van. And the head off a back seat passenger.
The front seat passenger wasn't belted, SHE wound up sliding under the dash, and was fine aside from finding out afterwards that her son was dead.
She lived thanks to not wearing her seatbelt, he died on account of wearing it. Is the conclusion you draw from that, that it's worse to go into an auto accident wearing a seat belt? It's the same reasoning you're employing here, after all.
I suspect that they did the pre-dawn raid, didn't announce themselves, and shot him when he fired at them thinking he was under attack by criminal assailants.
Why did they do a pre-dawn raid? Why not just arrest him at the airport? Why were their body cams off?
Why are you unwilling to concede that the government may have acted improperly only when the acts are at the direction of Merrick Garfinkel?
The "government may have acted improperly" is slightly different than Brett's conclusion that the ATF agents conspired to murder Malinowski and then proceeded to carry out their evil plan.
They conspired to make sure there would be no evidence of whatever they were planning on doing. Did they plan to murder him?
I donno. Maybe they just meant to rough him up, or throw a scare into him. All I know is that leaving the badge cams behind is enough reason to rationally conclude that they meant to to do SOMETHING they didn't want pinned on them.
I'd imagine there are a lot of cops who don't like body cameras and try to avoid using them for that reason alone. I also take a rather dim view of my employer's use of IT spy technology and try to avoid it in various creative ways (which are always plausibly deniable). Not because I'm covering anything up; I just don't like being casually surveilled.
Nothing about avoiding surveillance necessitates subsequent criminal activity, although it may facilitate it somewhat. But in today's environment of instant video recording on mobile phones, merely turning off your bodycam is a guarantee of nothing.
At least you consistently jump to unproven conclusions, eh?
Because what you start with “He was also shooting at ATF” is itself not a fact that has been established. Your "the facts beyond that" is meaningless because what proceeds it is not a fact.
So you haven’t looked into this at all. His own lawyer admits he shot at the ATF.
The people who lean into the lazy-paranoid combo continues to amaze and disappoint.
Yes. So the choices are: a) he was insane and wanted to die or b) he didn't know it was ATF he was shooting at.
Occam's Razor establishes (b).
Okay, now we're getting somewhere. If we accept that Malinowski wasn't suicidal, didn't intend to murder the ATF agents and was simply mistaken when he started shooting, were the ATF agents supposed to refrain from returning fire?
No. They were supposed to not do a commando raid, much like the cops shouldn't have done such a raid on John Hirko or Cory Maye