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Second Amendment Protects Public Housing Tenants
The public Cortland Housing Authority (near Syracuse) required its tenants not to possess "firearms … or other weapons as defined by the laws and courts of the State of New York" on its property. In Hunter v. Cortland Housing Authority, decided Jan. 30, 2024 (though I somehow missed it), Judge Glenn Suddaby (N.D.N.Y.) held that this likely violates the Second Amendment,
First, as a threshold matter, the Court has trouble accepting defense counsel's argument that "[p]ublic housing … was assuredly not something that our Founding Fathers could have contemplated at the time of the drafting of the Constitution or the time of the drafting of the Second Amendment, [because] it just did not exist. Publicly-funded housing for low-income families was not … on their radar …. [A]s Justice Thomas said, it's a new circumstance in our modern society." To the contrary, in numerous states, past generations appear to have provided publicly funded housing for low-income families and individuals—albeit likely for less-definite terms of duration than in modern public housing—in the form of places such as publicly supported "almshouses," poor-houses, and poor-farms. Even if such historical analogues could be fairly characterized as "historical twin[s]" or "dead ringers," other relevant similarities would appear to exist to any historical regulation of firearms in boarding houses or the residences of indentured servants.
Granted, the Court does not demand that Defendants show that firearms were traditionally banned in these analogous places. The Court is dutifully mindful of the Second Circuit's criticism of reasoning from "historical silence." For example, lawmakers may not have been moved to forbid the possession of firearms by people who could not afford to own them, or the possession of firearms at locations where the firearms owner resided at the whim of a cautious or peace-keeping property owner. However, one would imagine that a thorough analysis of the Firearms Ban in question would at least start with an acknowledgment that any historical regulations of firearms in the above-referenced almshouses, poor-houses, and poor-farms would be relevantly similar to the Firearms Ban: after all, both the historical and modern regulations would impose a comparable burden (i.e., denying one the ability to defend oneself in one's—potentially congested—publicly funded residence through the use of a firearm), and both the historical and modern regulations would carry a comparable justification (i.e., preventing the unwarranted danger to others in close proximity to oneself due to the non-defensive use of a firearm).
However, Defendants do not acknowledge the existence of those relevant similarities, much less try to posit the reason for the apparent dearth of such historical analogues. Instead, Defendants argue that both the fact of public housing and the rate of gun violence therein are wholly unprecedented, necessitating the "more nuanced approach" permitted by the Second Circuit in Antonyuk and the Supreme Court in Bruen; and then Defendants leap to a comparison of the modern firearms regulation to a non-firearms regulation (specifically, the regulation of the fundamental right of a family to live as a family).
Even if the Court were to agree that a "more nuanced approach" is appropriate here, the Court has trouble accepting Defendants' argument such an approach constitutes a license for them to analogize the Firearms Ban to a non-firearm regulation, under the circumstances. In addition to the fact that four closer analogies appear to exist (again, the regulation, or lack of regulation, of firearms in almshouses, poor-houses, poor-farms, boarding houses, and indentured-servant residences), neither the Second Circuit in Antonyuk nor the Supreme Court in Bruen analogized the firearm regulations at issue there to a non-firearm regulation. Indeed, to the contrary, both the Second Circuit and Supreme Court expressly tied each part of the "metrics" analysis that it would be using to a firearm regulation.
Second, in any event, the Court is dutifully mindful of the Second Circuit's directive that "courts must be particularly attuned to the reality that the issues we face today are different than those faced in … the Founding Era, the Antebellum Era, and Reconstruction …. Thus, the lack of a distinctly similar historical regulation, though (again) no doubt relevant, may not be reliably dispositive in Second Amendment challenges to laws addressing modern concerns." The Court is also mindful of the Supreme Court's similar directive that "the Constitution … must … apply …." As a result, the Court will faithfully trace the analytical inquiry proposed by Defendants.
The Court understands the required analytical inquiry (which involves the aforementioned "metrics" analysis) to essentially set forth a proportionality test, requiring a measurement of whether the burdensomeness of the modern statute (i.e., its burdensomeness compared to its justification) is reasonably proportionate to the burdensomeness of its historical analogues (i.e., their burdensomeness compared to their justification). The Court further understands Defendants' argument to be essentially that the government may currently limit one's Second Amendment right to possess a handgun in self defense in one's publicly funded home even though the government could not historically do so in one's home, just as the government may currently limit one's fundamental right (presumably under the substantive Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment) to live with one's family in a publicly funded home (e.g., based on a family member's status as a convicted drug offender or sex offender) even though the government could not historically do so in one's home.
For the sake of brevity, the Court will not linger on the lack of relevant similarity between limiting a right of criminal convicts and limiting a right of law-abiding, responsible citizens. The bigger problem with Defendants' analogy is that they have not persuaded the Court that, during the time periods in close proximity to 1791 and 1868, the government was never permitted to limit one's fundamental right to live together with one's family. As an initial matter, it is somewhat unclear whether defense counsel is arguing that the fundamental right to family under the substantive Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment is as longstanding as the right to keep and bear arms under the Second Amendment.
In any event, for the sake of argument, the Court will assume that the fundamental right to family preceded the right's formal recognition by the Supreme Court in 1923. After all, the Court is dutifully mindful of the Second Circuit's finding in Antonyuk that "it is implausible that the public understanding of a fundamental liberty would arise at a historical moment, rather than over the preceding era." Even so, the historical record appears to indicate that, during the times in question, in at least some publicly funded almshouses, children could be separated from their families. As a result, one cannot confidently reason that the government's current limitation on one's fundamental right to family in a publicly funded home is such a permissible departure from the government's historical ability to limit one's fundamental right to family that the departure warrants a commensurate invasion of one's Second Amendment rights.
Simply stated, instead of meeting their burden of establishing that the modern regulation is consistent with the National tradition, Defendants base their justification for their Firearms Ban on half of a historical analogy (to a non-firearms regulation, no less), which actually seems to undermine their case. More-persuasive historical analogues appear to be those firearms regulations that expressly made exceptions for the possession of firearms in one's home or residence, and even one's boarding house. They do not include regulations prohibiting firearms merely in government buildings. See Columbia Hous. & Redevelopment Corp. v. Braden (Tenn. Ct. App. 2022) ("[W]e cannot say that an individual's public housing unit is analogous to that of other established sensitive government buildings [for purposes of Bruen] …. [W]e conclude that a total ban on the ability of law-abiding residents—like Mr. Braden—to possess a handgun within their public housing unit for the purpose of self-defense is unconstitutional under the Second Amendment.").
{The Court notes that, while their orders are of little precedential effect, at least two other federal district courts have approved stipulations enjoining similar public-housing lease provisions as unconstitutional under the Second Amendment. See Doe v. East St. Louis Housing Authority (S.D. Ill. 2019) ("The Court concludes that the Stipulation should be approved, and judgment should be entered in favor of Plaintiffs."); Montag Doe v. San Francisco Housing Authority (N.D. Cal. 2009) ("Defendant SFHA shall not at any time enforce the provisions of [the Model Lease Agreement] relating to the lawful possession of firearms and other arms or weapons.").}
Third, Defendants' justification also teeters precariously on their assertion that the Firearms Ban is not "categorical" in nature (given that tenants may supposedly possess rifles, shotguns and crossbows on CHA property without breaching the lease). [This refers to the government's argument that under New York law "firearm" refers to handguns, short-barreled rifles or shotguns, or "assault weapon[s]"; see also plaintiff's counterargument. -EV.] Even if the Court were persuaded by this assertion[, which it is not], the Supreme Court in Heller specifically rejected it as a ground for finding such a firearms regulation constitutional:
It is no answer to say, as petitioners do, that it is permissible to ban the possession of handguns so long as the possession of other firearms (i.e., long guns) is allowed. It is enough to note, as we have observed, that the American people have considered the handgun to be the quintessential self-defense weapon. There are many reasons that a citizen may prefer a handgun for home defense: It is easier to store in a location that is readily accessible in an emergency; it cannot easily be redirected or wrestled away by an attacker; it is easier to use for those without the upper-body strength to lift and aim a long gun; it can be pointed at a burglar with one hand while the other hand dials the police. Whatever the reason, handguns are the most popular weapon chosen by Americans for self-defense in the home, and a complete prohibition of their use is invalid.
Fourth, and finally, the Court does not understand Plaintiffs to be arguing that they may, under the Second Amendment, bear a firearm in self-defense in the common areas of CHA property. Rather, the Court understands Plaintiffs to be arguing that merely that they may, under the Second Amendment, securely transport their firearms to and from their home through the common areas of CHA property, in compliance with New York State law. As a result, the injunction that the Court issues is narrowly tailored to preserve that right. {Cf. Doe v. Wilmington Housing Authority (D. Del. 2012) ("In the Court's view, this case presents exactly the type of situation that merits the application of intermediate scrutiny. The Revised Policy, including the Common Area Provision, does not impose a complete ban, expressly recognizes a right to possess firearms in the home, and provides an exception for self-defense. Hence, the Revised Policy preserves the 'core' of Plaintiffs' Second Amendment rights…. [T]he Revised Policy does not severely limit those rights inside the home—or come close to the level of infringement struck down in Heller …."); rev'd in part on other grounds (3d Cir. 2014).}
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At Ellsworth AFB in the early 70’s me and my friends (yes, I had friends) would take our 22 rifles and go shooting just outside the base (only empty fields surrounding Ellsworth, which pretty much describes South Dakota) we’d shoot cans, put a target on a “Tree” (Yeah right, in SD the “State Tree” is the Telephone Pole, similar to North Dakota, where the State Bird is the Mosquito)
Only time we got hassled (it was the early 70's you got "hassled" not "harassed") was some guy rode by on a horse and said something about how far a 22 round could go (about 1.5 miles depending on the wind) which just encouraged us more.
Checked Ellsworth out on Google Earth, hasn’t changed much except about 1/2 the base housing has been torn down (makes sense as the Air Farce is 1/2 the size it was back then) and B-52s replaced by B1’s.
Minot still has B52’s some of which have been there since 1961.
Frank
“Protects” is a strange word to use here, since the effect of more guns is to put their lives in more danger.
So tell Barry Hussein, William Juffuhson Clinton, and Parkinsonian Joe to give up their (real) Assault Weapon Equipped protective force. And you know how I know RFK Jr is going to take votes from Sleepy/Parkinsonian Joe? He isn't getting Secret Service protection, and there's a whole lot more Sirhan Sirhan Jr's around today than there were in June 1968. I'll be amazed if he (RFK Jr, actually Sleepy to, for different reasons) makes it to June 2024
Frank
How to say you don't know anything about the statistics regarding firearms without saying...
Are you saying there are fewer shootings by violent criminals than by people acting in self-defense?
Well, the presumption runs the other way. The presumption is that laws against keeping and bearing arms are unconstitutional. It’s not even a preponderance of the evidence sort of thing, but rather, after Bruen, Strict Scrutiny. Come back and prove to us (and the courts) that stricter gun laws result in fewer shootings by violent criminals of law abiding citizens. That’s going to be hard for you with examples like Chicago with high gun violence rates and strict gun control laws. But that still misses the point that the 2nd Amdt protects an individual right, and you are positing prioritizing a common interest preempting that right. That may have almost been plausible before Heller. It hasn’t been since.
"That’s going to be hard for you with examples like Chicago with high gun violence rates and strict gun control laws."
You must know that local gun control laws are ineffective because people bring guns in after purchasing them in unregulated places (for example, Virginia). Yet you said this anyway.
As for proof of strict gun control laws (on a national level) being associated with less gun violence, it is one of the most conclusively proven associations in the field of public health. All you have to do is look at practically any other country. Strict gun control prevents gun violence as surely as vaccinations prevent polio.
"You must know that local gun control laws are ineffective because people bring guns in after purchasing them in unregulated places (for example, Virginia)."
You mean criminals don't follow the law? Great! Let's pass more laws that will only effect law abiding gun owners.
It is perfectly legal to buy a handgun in Virginia and go to Chicago with it in the trunk of your car (or in your backpack).
or in your checked luggage
If you want to check a firearm with Delta, you need to
Declare to the Delta representative that you are checking a firearm.
Declare the existence of a firearm to security personnel if there’s a security checkpoint before the Delta counter.
Pack the firearm in a small box or case that must be locked and place inside checked baggage.
Ammunition cannot be stored in the same case as the weapon.
The baggage containing a firearm will be marked with special tags in order to alert ground handlers not to place it on the general carousel when the plane lands at the airport.
The baggage will be taken to a service agent who will run an ID check on the passenger that picks it up.
Shooting equipment is allowed as checked baggage only. It must fit within the very specific criteria that Delta outlines.
Delta has also taken this a step further by “securing” bags containing firearms with zip-ties.
Sure, if you live in Virginia.
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/federal-ccw-law/federal-private-firearm-transfer-laws/
Then make it Carbondale. Or Alton. Or Springfield. Take your pick.
The point is that the criminals who are buying guns elsewhere and bringing them to Chicago are buying them illegally. And if non prohibited persons are straw purchasing them or buying them with the intent to re-sell them then they are still violating federal law (which carries a 10-year penalty if I am not mistaken). How much more illegal do we need to make it before it is illegal enough?
And then we have the jurisdictions that create more difficult obstacle courses we must traverse to buy a gun while at the same time lessening the penalties for using a gun during the commission of a real crime. If this were really about stopping gun violence that wouldn't be the case.
"The point is that the criminals who are buying guns elsewhere and bringing them to Chicago are buying them illegally."
No they're not.
Every new gun sold, in every state, is sold with a background check. Not sure what "out of state guns" has to do with anything.
I'm not sure (actually I am sure we shouldn't) we should care why gun control laws are ineffective, since they are unconstitutional.
Are you saying criminals obey gun laws, but not other laws?
Statistically, there are far fewer shootings by violent criminals than lawful uses of firearms (which may or may not get to the point of pulling the trigger) by people acting in self-defense. The most credible studies I've seen on the topic put the ratio at about 10:1 in favor of lawful use.
I'd like to see those stats.
Grasp the fact that the true number of lawful firearms defensive uses are not something that can be gleamed from FBI crime statistics. The most common "uses" are not typically reported to the police, because a use doesn't by necessity require the gun owner to shoot a perp. An assailant can be repelled by merely showing the gun.
For example, a stalker following the fair maiden into her apartment building late at night hastily exits away after the maiden produces evidence she is carrying. No police report, but the presence of the lawfully owned gun was a "use". A jeweler in his shop open carries a snub nose pistol on his hip. The local predator refrains from targeting the jeweler, and moves on to some other less risky mark. No statistic, but the carried pistol proved "useful" in stopping a robbery. Heck, the fact that criminal home invasions are rare events is at least in part due to the calculation by most of the criminal element that to insert themselves illegally into someone's home presents the very real risk of being shot. Living in an armed society produced a very real widespread deterrence, ie, a ubiquitous "use", without firing a shot, and no statistic.
Under that logic Public Housing shouldn't let tenants watch Fox News because the misinformation could kill them.
You are on a slippery slope.
Next they'll have their groceries inspected before bringing them onsite, statistically speaking potato chip consumption is more dangerous to health than guns.
Please explain why the murder rate in 1991 was over 10/100k while today it's about half that at 5.2/100k while there are at least 2x as many guns in circulation?
Hmmm, torn on this one.
Why? Would you be "torn" if the court struck down a rule preventing public-housing residents from making political statements?
Because he doesn't think black people should have rights.
Great tune
I'm all out of faith, this is how I feel
I'm cold and I am shamed
Lying naked on the floor
Illusion never changed
Into something real
I'm wide awake and I can see the perfect sky is torn
You're a little late
I'm already torn
Well how about homeowners associations that ban guns in their bylaws?
Or rental agreements that ban guns on the premises?
This is the right decision. People who receive public housing benefits should not have to give up their rights. Indeed, I would suggest such a policy, however well-intended, would disproportionately affect racial minorities, which should always be a suspect result.
The paragraph about handguns' popularity, though, is sheer bullshit the judge should be ashamed of. Popularity does not make illegal things legal, or people would have had legal beer during prohibition, legal pot throughout the drug war, and so forth. It's a pathetic argument, in the technical sense of the word.
I believe the judge's point was merely that handguns are a weapon ordinary people commonly use for self-defense. As opposed to something like an anti-aircraft missile launcher or a hand grenade, which aren't currently covered by the 2nd Amendment.
Well, popularity does matter in terms of gun laws. After Heller, the more popular the firearm, the harder it is to ban them. Banning a .50 BMG rifle used for self defense is much easier to ban than the hugely popular handgun.
Politically, perhaps, and even practically in terms of enforcement discretion, but such considerations have no place in interpreting the law.
But that is a consequence of US v Miller 1932:
"And further, that ordinarily when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time."
"Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could contribute to the common defense."
The Heller court felt constrained to not reverse or ignore any previous SC second amendment rulings of which Miller is one of the few, which is standard practice anyway. They knew Heller would be controversial enough without overturning A 50 year old precedent.
Common use isn't analogous to popularity, and while historical tradition is a valid consideration under Bruen, modern popularity is not part of the test. If it were, the state could not ban Saturday Night Specials but could prohibit half of the crazy-ass firearms you like to brag about owning.
The opinion appears to leave a path open to Cortland Housing Authority lawyers, through either a motion to reconsider or an appeal, to investigate historical ordnances for poorhouses, boardinghouses, etc., and see if they could come up with any firearms regulations. And if they can’t, it might still be open to them to argue that because in the 18th and 19th century firearms were comparatively fantastically more expensive and as unimaginable for a poor person to possess as a stagecoach or servants, there exist somewhat different regulatory analogies that do apply.
In this case the defense simply didn’t investigate the correct analogy and hence made an essentially irrelevant argument under Bruen.
Of course, since this is not the first public housing case, the correct legal analogy may offer the Cortland Housing Authority no defense. So perhaps trying to come up with a creative stretch analogy was their only option.
Worth noting: in Lexington and Concord, April 1775, there were residents so poor that they could not afford a firearm. More than a few of them.
The local government supplied them with guns.
Under New York law a "weapon" is anything used as a weapon. You can be charged with "criminal possession of a weapon" in New York, or "assault with a dangerous weapon" in Massachusetts, for any implement you can imagine.
The term is question is “firearm,” not “weapon.” (But CHA’s claim that the term is applied only to certain long arms seems unlikely and pretty desperate.)
The term in the US Constitution is "arms"; which at the time included cannon and warships, as well as muskets, pistols, and various edged weapons.
Yet the term in question is "firearms." Look, if you have that much trouble reading English, maybe take an ESL class.
I got a C+ in ESL.
And the US Constitution (supposedly) overrides "the term in question" by being both inclusive, and also the final word.
Ah, you don't understand how law works but have strong opinions anyway. I understand. That's average for the general public.
The policy prohibits firearms and weapons. The plaintiffs are more concerned with firearms.
I know of a Massachusetts case where one sibling was convicted of assault with a dangerous/deadly weapon for banging another sibling's head against their parent's coffin during a dispute at the parent's wake. In that case the weapon was the coffin.
Of course, in Massachusetts you can (will) lose your gun rights for a simple operating under the influence. Under Mass. law, the prison exposure for a simple OUI is 2.5 years.
Now that's a wake.
You lose on first oui... Do you get arrested or is is just a citation?
" . . . "[p]ublic housing … was assuredly not something that our Founding Fathers could have contemplated at the time of the drafting of the Constitution or the time of the drafting of the Second Amendment, [because] it just did not exist."
I will accept the state's argument when the current cabinet is reduced to these four.
George Washington's cabinet included four original members: Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of Treasury Alexander Hamilton, Secretary of War Henry Knox, and Attorney General Edmund Randolph.
(which would also go a long way in addressing our deficits/debt)
But the presumptions run the other way. The burden here is on the defendants to show that there were equivalents, and than banning firearms in those equivalents was common. It’s a heavy burden because the strong presumption is that government restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms must survive Strict Scrutiny.
Be honest, it's because umm,
how to say this "Diplomatically"
a certain "Demographic Group" tends to live in Pubic Housing
Frank
Nice not to have to drive past where you are hunting to go get your firearm out of storage. Leaves more time before sunrise to hear everything wake up.
Or worse have to wait until they are open.
Or just hunt at night, like we do down South