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Call to "Update Free Speech Policies" to Address Supposed Hate Speech at Public University
I'm against it, whomever it's coming from.
I've seen plenty before, but this one is from Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, and the particular target is "antisemitic speech." An excerpt from Wednesday's Executive Order:
WHEREAS, Section 51.9315(f) of the Texas Education Code requires all higher
education institutions to adopt policies detailing students' responsibilities regarding free expression on campus; andWHEREAS, Section 51.9315(c)(2) of the Texas Education Code provides that students
should not participate in, and higher education institutions should not allow, expression that is unlawful or disrupts the operations of the institution; andWHEREAS, antisemitism and the harassment of Jewish students have no place on Texas university campuses and will not be tolerated by my administration;
NOW, THEREFORE, I … hereby direct all Texas higher education institutions to do the following:
1. Review and update free speech policies to address the sharp rise in antisemitic speech and acts on university campuses and establish appropriate punishments, including expulsion from the institution.
2. Ensure that these policies are being enforced on campuses and that groups such as the Palestine Solidarity Committee and Students for Justice in Palestine are disciplined for violating these policies.
3. Include the definition of antisemitism, adopted by the State of Texas in Section 448.001 of the Texas Government Code, in university free speech policies to guide university personnel and students on what constitutes antisemitic speech.
Texas Government Code Section 448.001 incorporates "the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's 'Working Definition of Antisemitism,'" which includes (among other things),
- Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
- Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
- Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
- Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
As readers might gather, I oppose those on the Right trying to ban supposed "hate speech" at universities, just as I oppose those on the Left trying to do the same. Of course students have to be free to argue that Jews don't have a right to "self-determination" in the sense of having their own country, just as they have to be free to argue that Palestinians don't have such a right, or Basques, Kurds, Catalonians, North Cypriots, South Ossetians, etc. don't have such a right. I support Israel's right to exist, but that is a subject that has to be up for free debate just like any other subject.
Of course students' free speech rights can't be limited by judgments about when the students are supposedly applying "double standards." What would we think, for instance, of criticisms of Communist China being punishable if some university administrator concludes that the critic isn't holding some other country to the same standards? Of course they have to be free to analogize the Israeli government or Hamas or the Chinese government or the Russian government or for that matter Trump or Biden to the Nazis, whatever we think of the soundness of such analogies.
Students also have the right to express anti-Semitic sentiments (or anti-Palestinian or anti-trans or anti-gay or anti-black or anti-white or anti-male or anti-female or anti-Catholic or anti-Protestant or anti-Muslim sentiments), just as they can any other sentiments. There is no "hate speech" exception to the First Amendment, and no anti-Semitic speech exception in particular.
The rules are also the same at public universities. Papish v. Board of Curators (1973) expressly rejected the notion that the university's "legitimate authority to enforce reasonable regulations as to the time, place, and manner of speech and its dissemination" extends to "disapproved content … rather than the time, place, or manner of its distribution." And Papish expressly held that "the First Amendment leaves no room for the operation of a dual standard in the academic community with respect to the content of speech," which is to say a different standard than the First Amendment applies to the government as regulator. Or, to quote Healy v. James (1972),
[T]he precedents of this Court leave no room for the view that, because of the acknowledged need for order, First Amendment protections should apply with less force on college campuses than in the community at large. Quite to the contrary, "[t]he vigilant protection of constitutional freedoms is nowhere more vital than in the community of American schools."
As I've said before, universities certainly have the power to punish trespassing, blocking entrances, excessive noise, vandalism, and a wide range of other behavior, so long as they do it apart from content. They likewise have the power to punish true threats of illegal conduct, solicitation of illegal conduct, and the like, so long as they do it evenhandedly. They should generally use this power, and at times they haven't used it enough.
But they can't target "antisemitic speech" based on its antisemitic sentiments, and punish it with "expulsion" or for that matter with lesser punishment. And they certainly can't define criticism of Israel, however misguided or even ill-motivated, as punishable "antisemitic speech."
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"There is no "hate speech" exception to the First Amendment"
Group libel?
True threats, incitement to imminent lawless action, intentional infliction of emotional distress, conspiracy, etc.
There's no exception specifically about "hate speech", but a lot of these antisemitic bigots end up crossing the various other exceptions in their zeal.
You slip "intentional infliction of emotional distress" right in there among three illegal criminal things. It is here where the battlefield lies.
Snyder v. Phelps established speech of a public concern is shielded from lawsuits alleging intentional infliction of emotional stress. Perhaps the battlefield is the case-by-case determination of whether the speech in question is of a public concern? But, Abbott's order makes no such distinction and the list of what constitutes antisemitism seems to include issues of a public concern.
Let me know when courts say that IIED based speech are generally untenable because of the First Amendment. Until then, it's worth remembering that our government applies civil sanctions as well as criminal to certain speech.
You could argue that federal hate crimes are another exception i.e., b/c improper motivation is one of the elements.
No, see this post, which discusses that in detail.
Ah, yes, I’d forgotten that it was superseded.
Yet what if some clever Justices want to revive the Beauharnais precedent and clear away any precedent which gets in the way? Hypothetical of course, not that I’d put it past them.
I agree that anti-semitic speech, in and of itself, cannot be punished. But the University of Oklahoma got away with expelling a student for a video containing the N-word. And UT got away with forcing an accepted student out due to a sing-along video she did when she was 15.
So maybe we punish some of these jerks, and the courts make it clear that none of this stuff can be punished.
As I keep saying: Shut down all public colleges / universities ASAP. In the meantime, let the taxpayers (through their elected leaders, such as Gov. Abbott) decide the extent to which students / professors can be punished for their speech. (As the examples you cited show, colleges / universities currently are doing this, and have been doing it for decades. It's just that they don't seem to mind certain kinds of hate-speech.)
I’m sorry to hear you disagree with the Constitution and everything our country (you do live in the U.S., correct?) has stood for for well over 200 years. And that your preferred solution to the alleged problem is to give in to unconstitutional tactics, instead of being better and standing for real values. Sad!
These conservative write-offs can't stand legitimate education, modern America, Blacks, science, reason, gays, inclusiveness, progress, Muslims, diminution of unearned privilege, transgender Americans, educated women, off-the-spectrum Americans, immigrants, agnostics, our strongest research and teaching institutions, Jews (except as role players in a childish fantasy world), mainstream entertainment, standard English, or the reality-based world.
Have you heard of the concept of precedent?
But the University of Oklahoma got away with expelling a student for a video containing the N-word.
Some would argue that is why there are no pro-Hamas rallies there, with students calling for the slaughter of the Judenvolk and the rape of the Judenfraulein.
https://reason.com/volokh/2023/11/03/nate-silvers-free-speech-is-in-trouble/?comments=true#comment-10303111
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Don't you just hate faux libertarian hypocrites and partisan censors? (Or is it faux libertarian censors and partisan hypocrites?)
" Ensure ... that groups such as the Palestine Solidarity Committee and Students for Justice in Palestine are disciplined for violating these policies."
It's not literally a bill of attainder, but it's cousin to one.
This, and dozens of with other examples (Crystal Mason, mifepristone, Ted Cruz, barbed wire borders, Judge Kacsmaryk, televangelists, Louie Gohmert, and country music, for starters), makes it difficult to overstate what a stain and drain on our society Texas is and has been. It should have been made an unincorporated territory (like Puerto Rico) after the Civil War and permitted to resume statehood solely after earning it.
(Texas is great, though, if you're a drawling, half-educated, rich, white bigot who doesn't give a damn about anyone else.)
Good for you, you really hate bigots.
Different strokes.
Some people dislike bigots.
Some people, such as the Volokh Conspirators, embrace bigots (to the point of targeting them as an audience).
Other people, as anyone who reads the Volokh Conspiracy is aware, are bigots.
I'll listen to Cowboy Carter twice as soon as I have time.
If you want to hear what country music could be (and why it isn't the country genre that sucks, it's the country artists and the fans), point your Google-compatible device at this playlist:
1. Dead Flowers
2. Far Away Eyes
3. Dear Doctor
4. Sweet Virginia
5. Country Honk
6. Wild Horses
7. No Spare Parts
8. Torn and Frayed
9. Through the Lonely Nights
10. Do You Think I Really Care
So country music isn't an example that makes it difficult to overstate what a stain and drain on our society Texas is and has been?
🙂
Good to know. (BTW for the curious, Dolly <3's B's version of Jolene).
I'll give her a listen but my country usually only extends to Kenny Rogers, Colter Wall, and the legendary Johnny Cash.
Johnny Cash, Roy Orbison, and Glen Danzig together from the 80's is pretty good too.
You forgot LBJ (rhymes with "how many kids did you kill today") and Robert Francis Orourke (rhymes with Dork)
There's at least some faction of the hard right (not all! but definitely some!) that must be experiencing head-explodey levels of cognitive dissonance as they try to reconcile Gov. Abbot's proclamation and their urge to dress up in bland khakis, grab a tiki torch, and join march while chanting "Jews will not replace us!".
their urge to dress up in bland khakis, grab a tiki torch, and join march while chanting “Jews will not replace us!”.
And some on the left re: Palestine!
"(not all! but definitely some!)"
Try "a few". They did a nationwide rally and got 500 men.
Now do your side. Tens of thousands marching for Hamas.
Tens of thousands? The ongoing slaughter of thousands of men, women and children isn't as popular as right-wing Nazism? That scans.
Start a war--this is what happens.
Nige has simply swallowed Hamas propaganda.
Nige must be a Nazi.
Maybe Hamas should stop killing Palestinians. Then we wouldn't see nearly so many dead. But we can be sure that the death count would still be as badly inflated as the current one is, because antisemites like you will accept and republish any number that Hamas's pet medics report.
The more this becomes a left-right divider, the more eager I become to see Israel's right-wing, superstitious, selfish, belligerent, indolent assholes get crushed.
I doubt it will take much more than America lifting the skirts Israel has been hiding behind for decades.
See you down that road apiece, clingers.
Call me when a state governator makes a similar executive order in support of Hamas … then we can speculate about head-explodey cognitive dissonance on the “Hamas side”.
But sure, there are hypocritical people at all extremes of the socio-religious spectrum. That’s hardly news. There are jerks all around the world, in all colors, in all denominations.
The Abbott order is in support of Nazis? Because otherwise your comment is nonsensical.
You implied that a large number of conservatives are Nazis, I just pointed out that the evidence is that your side has far more.
To paraphrase James Carville: It's the selective enforcement, stupid. .
All enforcement is selective.
Yes, as disgusting as the pro-Hamas protesters are, they have as much right to march as other disgusting groups, such as the Proud Boys or the KKK. I question the wisdom of opening our universities up as public forums, a phenomenon that seems to have had a negative impact on both the students and universities, but as long as they're open they have to let any idiot speak.
That said, I think universities can absolutely punish antisemitic speech directed at Jewish students and faculty, even if it's coded in dog whistles like "From the river to the sea."
You believe they have the right to march freely, but you do not believe they have the right to speak freely.
Sort of, much like the KKK can march, but KKK members can't target coworkers or fellow students as individuals with racist diatribes. I realize many commenters here are unwilling to understand the distinction, because they would like to harass individuals for their race or national origin.
I have trouble taking Abbott seriously as a paladin of free speech -- or of Jews, for that matter.
Abbott's last opponent thinks the IDF and Bibi "allowed" the October 7 massacre to happen.
As do people actually in Israel. "Allowed" does a lot of work there; no sane person thinks Netanyahu had affirmative knowledge and purpose to "allow" the attack. But did he purposefully keep Hamas in power? Maybe Bibi is just another blinkered, self-centered sucker who shouldn't be in power after such a serious a lapse in judgment:
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-20/ty-article-opinion/.premium/a-brief-history-of-the-netanyahu-hamas-alliance/0000018b-47d9-d242-abef-57ff1be90000
Allow: "give (someone) permission to do something" Definitions from Oxford Languages
Indeed, that sense of “allow” is precisely what I’m critiquing. What part of “no sane person thinks Netanyahu had affirmative knowledge and purpose to “allow” the attack” did you fail to understand?
If you maintain Abbot’s opponent did so in the sense of the OED def., please provide a bit more evidence (like an actual quotation) instead of your say-so where quote-allow-unquote is doing waaay too much heavy lifting.
Betcha can’t…
You lose.
"Well, listen. It's the Israeli Defense Force. It's the Prime Minister who allowed this to happen in the first place. " Real Time with Bill Maher 3/22/24
That's hardly convincing that the speaker used "allowed" in the narrow OED sense. I could be convinced, though, that Netanyahu "allowed" Oct. 7 in the same sense that Pres Bush "allowed" 9/11: he helped set up some of the conditions, and it happened under his watch.
Which is also a perfectly cromulent use of "allowed". Linguistic flexibility is a thing, and people on talk shows don't consult the OED before speaking each sentence fragment.
Try to get this into your thick skull: no sane person thinks that Netanyahu "allowed" Oct. 9 in the affirmative-permission OED definition sense of the word. This isn't the "I OWN TEH LIBZ!!1!" gotcha you appear to think it is.
Before you wrote your comment, you were in enthusiastic support of the word, allowed, as used in the following statement, correct?
Joe Biden allowed 13 U.S. service men and women—11 Marines, a Soldier, and a Sailor—and approximately 170 Afghan civilians to die in a suicide bombing at the Abbey Gate outside Kabul’s Hamid Karzai International Airport during the final days of the American withdrawal .
In that neither head of state prevented these attacks from happening, both bear a buck-stops-here ultimate responsibility. Though from follow-up reporting, Bibi had far greater opportunity to learn of the long build-up and planning of more than 1,000 members of Hamas terrorist militia in coordinated simultaneous attack across a broad area, than did Joe of a single suicide bomber in the chaotic scene outside the airport.
But Zarniwoop lays it out, the word allow, can be correct in both cases.
Texas has the second most education laws -- California has the most.
That said, I'd like to see who Abbot thinks will enforce this.
When I represent newspapers and broadcasters, I tell people that I am not a defamation lawyer — I am a lack-of-defamation lawyer.
Texas doesn’t have a lot of education laws. It has a lot of lack-of-education laws.
Texas also requires those stupid front License plates that totally would ruin my ZO6's look