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White University Administrator's Race Discrimination Case Can Go Forward
The administrator, at Texas A & M University Texarkana, alleges he was pushed out because of his race, and because he had declined to discipline a student who "had used the word 'Nigga' in [a classmate's] presence while on a trip to the mall."
From Magistrate Judge J. Boone Baxter's Report and Recommendation in Greig v. Texas A&M Univ. Texarkana, adopted Thursday by District Judge Rodney Gilstrap (E.D. Tex.):
Plaintiff Carl Greig … alleges he is a fifty-eight year old white male who worked for TAMUT as the Assistant Vice President of Student Affairs for approximately twenty-five years. According to Plaintiff, part of his job duties included investigating student complaints about other students' violations of TAMUT's Code of Conduct and other offensive behavior. Plaintiff alleges he received favorable reviews until July 2022 and had never been discipled or told that his job performance fell below acceptable standards prior to July 2022. Plaintiff alleges he was discriminated against on the basis of race based on a single incident where he investigated, but did not discipline, a student who used a negative racial epithet. Specifically, Plaintiff alleges as follows:
In August of 2021, a student ("Student 1") filed a written complaint with [Plaintiff's] office complaining that another student ("Student 2") had used the word "Nigga" in her presence while on a trip to the mall several months earlier (Spring 2021). At the time the offensive word was used, the students were good friends and Student 1 did not complain that she was offended by Student 2's statement. The students' friendship deteriorated after the Spring of 2021 and then had a series of interpersonal problems including, but not limited to, Student 1 complaining to [Plaintiff] about Student 2's offensive statement and Student 2 claiming that Student 1 had threatened to "beat her ass."
[Plaintiff] knew of the students' long history of interpersonal conflict. [Plaintiff] conducted a thorough investigation into Student 1's complaint. [Plaintiff] conducted research regarding Student 2's First Amendment rights and sought guidance from the System General Counsel and the TAMU System Title IX Coordinator on how to respond to Student 1's complaint. Based on advice he received from both legal counsel and the TAMU System Title IX Coordinator and [Plaintiff's] own research, [Plaintiff] decided that punishing Student 2 would violate her First Amendment rights and that she had not violated the Student Code of Conduct in effect at that time. [Plaintiff] counselled Student 2 on three separate occasions about how offensive the word she used was and advised her not to use the word again.
Student 1 was dissatisfied that [Plaintiff] had not removed Student 2 from her position on Student Government and in a sorority and elevated her complaint to the President who assigned the investigation to the Human Resources Department that had no authority over or involvement with student complaints. The Human Resources Director conducted her own investigation into Student 2's statement and ultimately did not punish Student 2.
Plaintiff alleges TAMUT began reducing his job duties following the Human Resource Director's investigation; removed Plaintiff from investigating any student complaint that involved race and from any involvement in any Title IX case; and cancelled, without explanation, an open position for which Plaintiff had selected a candidate. Plaintiff further alleges as follows:
In the aftermath of [Plaintiff's] decision not to discipline Student 2, Defendant held a "Town Meeting," open to students and faculty. At the Town Meeting, a faculty member demanded that [Plaintiff] be replaced by a person of color. Defendant's President attended the Town Hall and did not reject the faculty member's demand. In November 2021, [Plaintiff's] supervisor, the Vice President of Student Affairs, advised him that he should consider looking for a new job because Defendant intended to blame [Plaintiff] for all race-related issues after his failure to punish Student 2. [Plaintiff's] supervisor also said [Plaintiff] made the right decision not to punish Student 2.
According to Plaintiff, shortly thereafter, Plaintiff's supervisor resigned, and TAMUT replaced Plaintiff's supervisor with an interim Vice President. Plaintiff alleges that in March of 2022, the interim Vice President began to criticize Plaintiff's job performance and alleged performance deficiencies, including incidents from several years prior and a list of complaints from students and employees; Plaintiff responded to the interim Vice President's allegations, after which time TAMUT never addressed the allegations with Plaintiff.
According to Plaintiff, in July of 2022, for the first time in his twenty-five years' of employment, Plaintiff received a "not meeting expectations" rating on his yearly evaluation and was told by the interim Vice President that the students wanted someone younger in Plaintiff's position and that he felt Plaintiff could not relate to people of color. Plaintiff alleges he was given no guidance or goals to follow to improve his allegedly deficient performance and instead was told in August of 2022 that he must resign or be terminated. Upon information and belief, Plaintiff was replaced by an African-American female who is several years younger than Plaintiff.
Plaintiff sued for race discrimination, and the court concluded the case could go forward:
Plaintiff has sufficiently alleged that an adverse employment action was taken against him because of his race. Plaintiff has provided dates and details leading to his termination. Specifically, Plaintiff has alleged two times when either a supervisor or a faculty member suggested Plaintiff should be replaced by a person of color or could not relate to students of color.
TAMUT argues Plaintiff's allegations are purely conclusory and inadequate to "raise a right to relief above the speculative level." According to TAMUT, the alleged statements from Plaintiff's prior supervisor, while "suggestively conspiratorial," provide "no support for Plaintiff's claim that an adverse employment action was taken against him on the basis of race." TAMUT Motion at 5 (stating the supervisor is both unidentified and "by Plaintiff's own admission had left university employment months before Plaintiff's termination, which occurred in August 2022"). Regarding the alleged statement from the Interim Vice President of Student Affairs informing Plaintiff that students at TAMUT felt Plaintiff could not connect to people of color, TAMUT argues this "statement alone would readily be understood as a communication of a serious performance issue, given Plaintiff was responsible for investigating student complaints relating to race and such investigations necessarily involve a degree of interpersonal skill." TAMUT argues generalized feedback regarding Plaintiff's interpersonal skills from the student body or employees cannot be said to provide support for Plaintiff's claim that he was subject to adverse employment actions because of his race but rather shows the opposite: that the student body, and apparently one faculty member, felt Plaintiff's job performance was unsatisfactory, and communicated that to Plaintiff's interim supervisor….
At this stage of the proceeding, a plaintiff need only plausibly allege facts going to the ultimate elements of the claim to survive a motion to dismiss. The Court finds Plaintiff has alleged sufficient facts, interpreted in the light most favorable to him, regarding whether an adverse employment action was taken against him because of his protected status and "nudged [his] claims across the line from conceivable to plausible." …
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had threatened to "beat her ass."
Thanks, Hollywood and the entertainment industry, for your quality drama writing over the years.
Yup, I smiled at that too.
I had visions of Josh Blackman and Mark Graber in flagranti argumento.
Isn't that a threat of violence? Or has "ghetto" speak become acceptable English dialogue?
I gather that Texas A&M wants to police students' conversations on off campus shopping trips.
Sadly, that's true of most colleges today -- to appease the local town, they extend there Kangaroo Korts off campus as well. Forget dating, it's why you really don't want to have any friends in college if you are a student.
It's why I think the era of the residential campus is over -- and note that as this involved a sorority they both belonged to, one can presume they were both female. I wonder if they were both Black?
And as to these campus forums, I will never forget the one at UMass Amherst where the lynch mob started chanting "Fuck the First Amendment" when being told that UMass students had First Amendment rights. I described it to FIRE as "a ringside view of a lynching."
But I'd love to know if BOTH girls are Black -- note that the Title IX person agreed not to punish.
It's sad, but his case would be a lot more likely to turn in his favor if had alleged age discrimination. He probably should have alleged both. That way the jurors wouldn't be able to justify the behavior of the university.
My thoughts too -- until I started thinking "sorority" and how few of them are racially integrated (either way) and how the slur didn't harm the friendship and it was only months later it became an issue and I started wondering about race.
Black kids call each other "Nigger" and "Nigga" all the time and purport it not offensive. Just wondering...
Clearly he should allege both
With no other context or comment than "can't connect to people of color" what is the Plaintiff to take away from that other than "...because you are white,"?
But for being white, and sans any other additional context provided by supervisors, can anyone reasonably conclude that he would have been told this? Are there ANY examples of non-people of color being told they can not relate to people of color in the US?
It couls be potentially argued that Obergefell indicates that his race is the reason he was treated the way he was.
While I am not surprised, I still am disturbed by the faculty member saying that he should be replaced with someone who is Black and wonder if he has a suit against said professor?
I've long said that we need campus Klan chapters to have a balance of terror. Mutual Assured Destruction *works* -- it kept the peace for 70 years and that is a record for time without a major land war in Europe. (Seriously, go back and find 60-70 years without some major war in Europe.)
What you have now is the unbalanced mob -- and the spineless administrators wanting to balance and hear both sides -- so we need the schmucks of the Klan to provide the balance. While the correct response to a Black professor calling for a White administrator to be fired is an administrator condemning the racist comment, someone standing up and saying "shut up, you nigger" would make an equally relevant point.
The decent people in the middle -- if there are any -- would see that both statements were equally offensive.
"Your opponents reaction *is* your action." - paraphrased from Beautiful Trouble, a leftist activist/protest guide.
Your suggestion would not counter their actions but would be leveraged to justify their action. The reason wokeism fails where it does is because the boogeyman can not be seen.
Once he is made manifest then the left is retroactively proven right about their claims of sever racism everywhere.
They don't need a boogeyman to manifest though. They just redefine ordinary actions as that of a boogeyman and this anyone who takes them as a boogeyman. Overton window is real.
Simply re-phrasing normal behavior, however, is of limited efficacy. Normal people see that and are repulsed by the abnormal reaction.
But when someone does do the extreme, then even those who would otherwise be repulsed by woke ideology start to wonder if woke has a point.
It can be combatted without playing into the woke's hand. When they tell you their plan it is best if you don't play along.
I understand what you are saying, and in a realistic world with competent administrators, you would be right.
But I'm coming from the Mutual Assured Destruction field and let them leverage it knowing that the other side will do something WORSE and eventually the administrators will either grow a spine or (more likely) be replaced by someone who has one.
OTOH, most of the racial stuff I've seen in my career has been false flag -- Black kids perpetrating it so as to have something to complain about. Same thing with all but one of the stranger rapes (where victim did not personally know assailant), and that one was quickly stopped by a couple of engineering students.
Perhaps the worst hoax was the 1999-2000 UMass Campus Pond rape hoaxes where a nonexistent serial rapist was purportedly raping women in situations that would be totally impossible. In the middle of wet bushes without the victim's clothing getting wet (but the cops clothing getting wet when they went looking for clues. Being able to read the brand name of a can of pepperspray on a dark sidewalk AFTER having been sprayed. Etc.
But I remember Jimmy Carter, circa 1976, thinking that the Soviets would stop being so bellicose if we did as well -- and the same Jimmy Carter, circa 1979, restoring draft registration and increasing the DOD budget (as a percentage of the whole) more than Reagan did.
No. This has been yet another episode of Simple Answers to Stupid Questions.
In Stalin's Russia, what would happen to an NKVD investigator who failed to produce "proof" that Comrade Ivanov was an agent of British Intelligence, planning to assassinate Comrade Stalin? He would soon find himself "investigated." We live in awful times...
I can't speak to Stalin's Russia, but I did learn quite a bit about the Soviet Union under Brezhnev, Andropov, and Chernenko -- which I find incredibly helpful in understanding American academia today.
We defeated the Soviet Union only to install the worst of it in our colleges and universities....
Well the Soviets did invest a lot of time and money on college campuses in the 60's and 70"s. It's a shame that the report that states this had a 75 year "security" moratorium placed on it by then President Bill Clinton. Of course if we had found out what Hilary was doing with the "Students for a Democratic Society" things might be a little different. Then throw in Bill Ayres and Bernadine Dorn and their roles in "education" and you might have a pretty good explanation.
WOW --- this I did not know...
How much of it was "ratfuck" -- just causing trouble for the sake of causing trouble? I think Hoover was right about them supporting the Civil Rights movement, but not because they genuinely believed in civil rights (look at the racism in their own country) but because they want to cause discord and disorder in the US.
But there also were true believers and I do wonder. I also know that not everyone was allowed to take some of the courses that I did.
Well, as I suspected, they have a Historically Black Sorority there -- Delta Sigma Theta. Call it a hunch but I would not be surprised if both are associated with that sorority.
This kind of general small-scale employment imbroglio I can believe, including the cringey 'you're just not connecting with the black youths of today' evaluation.
But this allegation is a bit hard to believe:
"the Vice President of Student Affairs, advised him that he should consider looking for a new job because Defendant intended to blame [Plaintiff] for all race-related issues after his failure to punish Student 2."
First, it's a small school with about 2,000 students -- I worked at a smaller one and would not be at all surprised that someone said something like this.
Actually, I could see UMass Amherst doing something like this as well -- and it sorta did a few times. And when your realize that the administration is (a) sicing a potentially violent mob on you and that (b) the campus police will NOT be coming to your rescue, it is a very real threat.
Near my place of work there is a satellite campus of a State University. For years the Campus Police have wanted to merge with the Municipal Police. People keep voting it down. The reason is that the Municipal Police work for the Borough Commissioners, while the Campus Police work for the College Administrator. A merger would effectively give the College Administrator some control over the entire Borough. The "peaceful protests" a few years ago was all that the residents needed to see.
GOOD MOVE!!!
Contrary to opinions here, I really was a student journalist with a reputation for integrity and I once re-wrote a story so as to not get the campus police chief fired -- the stuff I took out really didn't need to be there, wasn't serving any useful purpose, and I think I made the right decision. (Knowing the particular administrator, he actually would be petty enough to fire for it...)
But what I realized -- and subsequently found this to be true elsewhere -- was that campus police chiefs don't even have the due process protections that town chiefs do, the campus chiefs "serve at the pleasure of" the administrator.
I don’t find it hard to believe. My interpretation is that the plaintiff and the VP had been working together for a long time. The VP was on his way out the door and was giving his friend/colleague his read on what was going to happen, not a statement of policy or what the VP was directly told by their superiors.
Apparently you didn't keep on reading.
"According to Plaintiff, shortly thereafter, Plaintiff's supervisor (that would be the Vice President of Student Affairs who told him that) resigned".
Obviously the Vice President of Student Affairs did NOT approve of what was happening, and so warned the plaintiff on his way out the door.
According to TAMUT, the alleged statements from Plaintiff's prior supervisor, while "suggestively conspiratorial," provide "no support for Plaintiff's claim that an adverse employment action was taken against him on the basis of race." TAMUT Motion at 5 (stating the supervisor is both unidentified and "by Plaintiff's own admission had left university employment months before Plaintiff's termination, which occurred in August 2022").
1: Exactly how many "Vice Presidents of Student Affairs" did TAMUT have at the same time? Who were supervising the Plaintiff?
2: The fact that he warned Plaintiff that Plaintiff was going to be unjustifiably fired well before it happened, and that Plaintiff was later fired, is in fact support for the Plaintiff's claims
My guess is title truncation -- there often are "assistant" and "associate" levels of most positions, just like with "professor."
that these administrators still have jobs shows just how deep the rot goes.