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Professor Mark Graber responds to Blackman & Tillman on the 1868 Louisville Daily Journal
In response to the "new source" described in Josh's recent post (and Tillman's recent amicus brief, and earlier in this short SSRN piece by John Connolly) Professor Mark Graber writes at Balkinization:
Eureka Not: The President is an Officer of the United States Redux, Redux . . .
Mark Graber
A long exhaustive search has finally found an article published within ten years of the framing of the Fourteenth Amendment that declares that the President is not an officer of the United States. Congratulations to Josh Blackman and Seth Barrett Tillman for unearthing the Louisville Daily Journal's series of pieces claiming, contrary to what President Andrew Johnson said about his job description, that Johnson was not an officer of the United States. Of course, the comment was not made in respect to Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment, but apparently that is a trifle. A source does exist. Eureka.
Maybe not. An historian might ask, how representative is the Louisville Daily Journal and what is the Louisville Daily Journal representative of? With respect to the second question, a little newspaper search revealed that the Louisville Daily Journal was a Democratic party newspaper bitterly opposed to the Fourteenth Amendment, the impeachment of Andrew Jackson, and the possible presidency of radical Republican Senator Benjamin Wade of Ohio, the probable president if Johnson was impeached (unless Senators were not officers of the United States). Before Donald Trump was subject to disqualification, originalists thought that the Republicans who voted for the Fourteenth Amendment were the authoritative source on the original meaning of that text. Now apparently Democrats are the higher authority. I look forward to many changes in the Supreme Court's jurisprudence based on how white supremacists and former rebels described the post-Civil War Amendments (hint, black rule is constitutionally mandatory).
With respect to the first question, I decided to do two random searches. The first was the record of the Andrew Johnson impeachment. The second was American newspapers in 1868 (I used the Newspapers Archives site). For the first, I searched "officers of." For the second, I searched "officers of the United States" (I did a narrower search simply because "officers of," which got 71 hits for the impeachment, would have gotten a few thousand for Newspaper Archives, almost all of which would not have been on point. Indeed, I looked at only the first 200 of the more than five hundred hits I got).
The first finding was Common Sense 15, Blackman/Tillman 0*.
I found six references to the President or Vice President as an officer of the United States in the congressional records of the Johnson impeachment debate and nine references to the President or Vice President as an officer of the United States in the newspaper archives. I should note the 0 is explained by my decision to read only the first 200 hits. A quick check revealed the Louisville Daily Journal stories claiming the president was not an officer of the United States were in the database, just not in the first 200 hits. The asterisk reflects one article that referred to a Democratic paper that claimed the president was not an officer of the United States. Quite possibly the reference was to the Louisville Daily Journal.
I have been deluged with other citations claiming that the President is an officer of the United States. Gerard Magliocca has done amazing work unearthing some of these citations. John Vlahoplus has done yeoman work making many citations public and has sent me many more. James Heilpern and Michael Worthy have a terrific piece on SSRN that geometrically expands the number of commentators and commentary from 1866 to 1868 that treats the president as an officer of the United States for Section 3 purposes. Still, for the purposes of "scientific" accuracy (and my methods were not all that scientific), I decided not to refer to any article or citation that did not turn up in my random survey. If we make the reasonable assumption that persons on both sides of the disqualification argument have been searching for favorable citations and that good tools for doing so are easily accessible, based on the information so far made public my best guess is that you will find more than 25 newspapers that refer to the president as an officer of the United States for every one that does not.
The second finding is that the members of Congress and newspapers that regarded the president as an officer of the United States were overwhelmingly Republican. The members of Congress who claimed the president is an officer of the United States include Representative John Bingham of Ohio, who is often (and wrongly) regarded as the father of the Fourteenth Amendment, Representative James Ashley of Ohio, one of the main authors of the Thirteenth Amendment, Representative James Wilson of Iowa, the head of the House Judiciary Committee, and Senate Oliver Morton of Indiana, a prominent radical. The newspapers include such Republican stalwarts as the National Republican, the Cincinnati Commercial, and the Madison Wisconsin State Journal.
So, what do we know? With respect to Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, there were at the time prominent assertions that former presidents and presidents were covered, and innumerable assertions that Section 3 disqualified anyone who held a federal or state office from holding any federal or state office. There are numerous instances, including a congressional report, where political actors and journals make no distinction, sometimes self-consciously, between "office(r)," "office(r) of," and "office(r) under." There are no instances so far discovered of any person between 1866 and 1868 making a distinction between these phrases and claiming the president for purposes of Section 3 was an "officer," but not an "officer of" or an "officer under." Zero. The only possible instance so far uncovered is of a Democrat, Reverdy Johnson (are we seeing a pattern here of those not wanting Trump to be disqualified), who recanted within approximately 15 seconds.
With respect to the presidency more generally, there are scattered quotations in newspapers that the President is not an officer of the United States. I suspect a few more are lurking. We will immediately learn when they are discovered. No one has found a single quotation in the Congressional Globe from 1866 to 1868 indicating that the president is not an officer of the United States. None exist in 1866 and 1867, but I have not fully surveyed 1868. The newspaper quotations are running 10-1 in favor of the president being an officer on a conservative estimate and, if I count quotations that have turned up in other writings, the ratio is probably more than 20 to 1.
As important, the few scattered quotations indicating that the president is not an officer of the United States are from white supremacist papers eager to foil congressional reconstruction. No one has yet produced a quotation that the president is not an officer of the United States made from 1866 to 1868 by a Republican who favored the 14th Amendment (I'll bet 1-2 exist). So far at least, the only persons claiming the president is not an officer did so as part of an argument that Benjamin Wade should not become president (I would not be surprised to find a reference or two claiming that an impeached Andrew Johnson could still run for president). If Republican proponents of racial equality and free labor are a better guide to the point of the Fourteenth Amendment than Democratic proponents of white supremacy and slavery, the result is no contest, even if scattered dissenting voices appear. The Republicans who drafted, framed and ratified the Fourteenth Amendment, the evidence so far presented demonstrates, were as united in claiming the president was an officer of the United States in general, as they were when claiming that the president was an officer of the United States for the specific purposes of Section 3.
Blackman and Tillman engage in the same cherry-picking when discussing congressional speeches during the Belknap impeachment of 1876. They correctly point out that two members of Congress stated that the president was not an officer of the United States. One of them, George Boutwell, was a member of the Joint Committee on Reconstruction, although a scholar might have pointed out that Boutwell in his autobiography claimed the president was a civil officer of the United States (who has time for historical research?). Having nothing better to do, I did a word search with respect to the Belknap hearings, again typing in "officer of." There were about 100 hits. I looked at the first 50. 15-20 claimed the president was an officer or an officer of the United States (the others had nothing to do with the case). None of the first fifty claimed that the president was not an officer of the United States. Given my suspicion that Blackman and Tillman mined the hearing for every citation in their favor, my inference is that there are probably 15-20 citations in the last fifty that claim the president is an officer of the United States and two citations for the contrary position. Again, in 1876, members of Congress by a probable 10-15 to 1 ratio thought the President was an officer of the United States.
There are lots of searchable texts and newspaper databases out there. Readers are invited to do their own searches. Take a look at Heilpern and Worthy noted above. They came up with an overwhelming number of newspaper assertions that the president was an officer and an officer of the United States for Section 3 purposes. No counterexample.
We might imagine a constitutional provision drafted in 1965 that refers to "football." In 1980, one or two members of Congress use "football" in the European sense. Blackman and Tillman might have you believe that this reference demonstrates that all actual references to "football" in federal or state law must refer to what Americans more commonly call "soccer."
[I have not replicated all of Professor Graber's research myself, but nobody can accuse him of being a late-comer to the interpretation of Section Three. He has been researching an acclaimed book series on "The Forgotten Fourteenth Amendment" for years, before these issues were politically live. I thought our readers might be interested in his thoughts.]
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The SC decision can't come soon enough.
Then we will have 10 more posts about how they got the issue wrong!
Always good to see Josh outclassed at every possible opportunity.
With respect to the second question, a little newspaper search revealed that the Louisville Daily Journal was a Democratic party newspaper bitterly opposed to the Fourteenth Amendment, the impeachment of Andrew Jackson, and the possible presidency of radical Republican Senator Benjamin Wade of Ohio, the probable president if Johnson was impeached (unless Senators were not officers of the United States).
It's interesting that a similar description, mutatis mutandis, could be applied to Josh's posts on the VC.
Mr. Manager is a classic example of how someone who's smart relative to their environment gets a law degree and becomes a breathing example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
“shooting fish in a barrel”
I was thinking "... mic drop" myself, but that works.
Yes. Mic drop indeed, that was vicious, as was once said:
“Competition in academia is so vicious because the stakes are so small.”
But it is worth noting, again what Baude once said about Tillman’s position when he had no reason to want a different result, and to be fair Graber hadn’t made his own points:
“Professor Seth Barrett Tillman may have found an intricate and startlingly coherent set of principles about government structure — as well as a reminder to take the Constitution’s words more seriously than we do.”
“Next time you confront a separation of powers problem or read through parts of the Constitution, keep Professor Tillman’s chart in hand. Suddenly, it will be hard to assume that the Constitution’s textual variations are meaningless. Indeed, Professor Tillman’s theory makes sense of patterns that most of us never saw. It brings order out of chaos. That is not to say that his position has been conclusively proven. But at this point, I think he has singlehandedly shifted the burden of proof.
Since this is an entry in the Journal of Things We Like Lots, and since I am synthesizing much of Professor Tillman’s work here, I feel the need to venture a final word on his research style. When you read an individual Tillman piece, you will notice exceedingly technical arguments combined with an almost urgent voice. You cannot help but think the author is brilliant, and you cannot help but wonder if the author is rather eccentric. As you read more of the pieces together, you will realize that he has a constitutional project, that he pursues it with great skill and knowledge, and that if he didn’t do it, nobody would.
We need more scholars like Seth Barrett Tillman.” https://conlaw.jotwell.com/constitutional-officers-a-very-close-reading/
Baude has evidently come around to Graber’s view, possibly because the stakes are higher than just an academic argument, but its worth noting what he once said, when nobody had a dog in the hunt.
Guy sounds like a douchebag.
The post is patronizing and kinda insulting.
JB's post was sooooo long I only skimmed but I don't recall the same tone.
Sometimes you have to take off and nuke the site from orbit.
(It’s the only way to be sure)
I'm reminded of the Black Knight scene in 'Monty Python and the Holy Grail"
Expecting Blackman to post "Come back here. I'll bite your legs off!"
The forest, the knights, and the battle
This one might be even better.
Not this again. The President is obviously and demonstrably an officer of the United States.
The only alternative is that he works for a living, and no one believes that.
I mean, it's a shame to see law professors spilling so many words on the topic when there's a simple, direct answer right under our noses.
I appreciated this reply, and I thought you should know it. Sir.
Thank you. I appreciate the fact that you were able to infer the proper form of address by my commenting frequency.
For those who use language loosely, sure, the President is an officer. The question is whether he is an officer of the US, as the term is used in the Constitution. Apparently not, according to most sources.
If you go by word count, Profs. Blackman and Tillman might get you to "most", but as this post demonstrates it's certainly not otherwise the case—especially not in the context of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Even if it is ambiguous, I don't think that scotus is going to kick Trump off the ballot for an ambiguity.
[Blackman curling his mustache with finger]: "Curses! Foiled again!"
Anyone remember that commenter who used to bring up Bingham all the time? We had a drinking game IIRC.
It was Aldridge.
Thanks, that's right. I'm taking a drink now.
I came here to say the same thing. I haven't had a drink in a while! Kudos to David for remembering that it was Aldridge!
Trouble is Josh's entire raison d'etre is to move the overton window to cover whatever idiotic thought he's having. That this even had to be written to counter his dumb ass is indicative of how poorly our country is running.
Thank you, Mark Graber.
Meowwww!
"Because the stakes are so small," as the saying goes.
You don't think whether or not Trump can run for president could end up being consequential?
I don't think this argument will affect that decision. I assume Trump is going to prevail, but on a more solid ground than this pile of mud. Blackman will be a winner if his argument gets a passing mention, perhaps even a "no need to decide this" punt.
I'm not even a historian (like Lathrop!) and I asked the same question! Obviously, finding a contemporaneous source that supports one's position is good for one's position, but as soon as I read that Blackman post, my immediate thought was, "Really? The only thing you can come up with is a single reference in an obscure newspaper?"
A single reference which, if I recall correctly, acknowledged that it involved an uncommon interpretation.
The John J. Connolly article addresses these issues persuasively and professionally.
The point of Blackman and Tillman’s post was to dispute Graber’s assertion that no one believed the president wasn’t an officer in the 1860s, not that the president isn’t an officer because this newspaper said so.
It was a needlessly long post just to say “here’s an example” and now Graber has a needlessly long post just to say “it exists but it doesn’t matter anyway.”
Graber seems to be too polite to say, "Those people didn't actually believe it, either, they just wanted to preserve white supremacy."
+1
"Polite" isn't what came to mind when I read the Graber post. Graber stated in print that there was "no evidence" that anyone in the 1860's thought the president is not an officer of the United States. Blackman and Tillman pointed out that John Connolly had unearthed the Louisville Daily Journal editorials taking just such a position in a debate with another paper. Graber responds not by acknowledging his error but by insisting the offending source was the product of white supremacy and must therefore be ignored.
That's not a mic drop response or really even a response at all. It's an attempt to change the subject with a cheap and lazy play of the race card. Are we really now to believe that nothing written by Civil War-era Southern journalists may be counted as historical evidence?
That isn't to say the Blackman/Tillman position comes out ahead. As others have pointed out, Connolly's piece makes clear that the Blackman/Tillman position was in the distinct minority at the time the 14th Amendment was passed. Graber, on the other hand, relies on hasty and obviously unreliable word searches along with a heaping of invective that sounds a lot more like faculty lounge sniping than anything approaching scholarship. In a debate that has devolved quickly, this is a new low.
"Are we really now to believe that nothing written by Civil War-era Southern journalists may be counted as historical evidence?"
If the only evidence to be found is on the pages of partisan publications (remember that the paper in question was formally affiliated with the Democratic Party, per Graber), advancing an interpretation that it admits openly is heterodox, specifically for the purpose of achieving a narrow and fleeting political goal, yes, I think it's acceptable to discount it as likely bad faith.
I believe Prof. Graber's claim was that no one had found an example of such a claim. Now someone has (though it wasn't Profs. Blackman and Tillman, so I'm not sure why they're getting the credit)—but it context, that source seems to strongly support the contention that, in the 1860s, the public meaning of "officer of/office under the United States" encompassed the presidency. So I do think it's worthwhile for Prof. Graber to have noted that.
Well, Graber, or Braude, did use "Read More."
Lots of heat here. SCOTUS will hopefully give us a final answer. One problem with statutory or constitutional interpretation is with the definition of terms. A term may have different definitions in different parts of the same constitution or code.
I think that Section 3 is too vague and too powerful to be given much latitude. The Court would be wise to narrow down the interpretation of one or both of the terms “Officer of the United States” and “insurrection” in order to preclude abuses.
Begging the question here a bit, aren't you?
Does a court have power to preclude abuses it has no power to remedy?
I think that Section 3 is too vague and too powerful to be given much latitude. The Court would be wise to narrow down the interpretation of one or both of the terms “Officer of the United States” and “insurrection” in order to preclude abuses.
Sec 3 is not vague at all imo. It is hugely powerful but that’s the point. Congress wanted to have much more authority – going forward – over Presidential elections. Look at the historical context.
Lincoln/Johnson was not elected in 1864 as Republican but as National Union. Hamlin (Lincoln’s first VP and a Radical Republican) was not on the ticket for his second term. Salmon Chase (prev Treasury Secy and a Radical Republican who wanted to be Prez or God) was appointed to be SC Chief Justice to make kissy-face with the Radical Republicans. The Radical Republicans had split from Lincoln and formed a Radical Democracy Party and nominated John Fremont/Cochrane – who then withdrew in Sept 1864 to prevent the Democrats from winning. Over the next few years, the two parties re-merged. The Democrats had split into the War Democrats and the Copperheads but then rebalanced with McClellan/Pendleton. Whew. It gets worse.
Lincoln was no longer President. Johnson (a Democrat until he became National Union) was President and was at deep loggerheads with Congress which would result in the first impeachment. In late 1865, the first Confederates were sent to Congress (including Alexander Stephens the Veep) who wanted nothing more than to restart the sectionalism that had led to the Civil War (and they were real good at the divide-conquer game). The latter is the proximate cause of putting Sec3 in the 14A – and was enforced in 1865 to prevent those Confederates from being seated in Congress. The most obvious instrument of the Prez executive power – at the time Grant who was neither Dem nor NU but became Rep as a consequence of this brouhaha – was also at the center of Johnson’s decisions/conflicts that led to his impeachment. Johnson survived impeachment and became a Dem again and sought the Prez nom but failed. Seymour who won the 1868 Dem nom – but on the 23rd ballot and he wanted Chase (see above) to be the nom. Oh – and SC had never had a popular vote for Prez and Florida didn’t in 1868 so there was no deep Constitutional connection between the people and the people’s King as there is today.
What a cluster$#&^. With potentially enormous consequences. Of course they wanted the power to resolve that sort of legislative/executive/constitutional conflict before a President assumes office. Not just leave it to ‘parties’ and factions. Hence the way Sec3 is written. Congress (not officers of the US) and electors (not officers of the US – but possibly of states) are the ones who actually determine who will be President and President is just one of a slew of officers of the US. Where the taint/charge of insurrection is obviously big enough to require that Congress require a super-majority to remove that taint before a Prez takes the oath of office. But really this probably has to be a political decision – but an institutional decision NOT a partisan decision – and not one where we add another busybody in the judiciary.
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John J. Connolly found the relevant publication. Profs. Blackman and Barrett, to their credit, acknowledged that point.
I do not spend much time reviewing the scholarship of law professors these days, but the glimpses I get do not inspire much confidence. Maybe it was this bad decades ago, too?
Blackman is off in Borges Country, where obscurity is a boon.
Balkinization has been addressing this issue for some time.
Balkinization also rarely publishes racial slurs and seems to avoid publishing an incessant stream of bigoted content.
Particularly since they do not now allow comments.
Balkinization publishes comments. Half or more of the posts at Balkinization provide an opportunity for comment. It doesn't get nearly the chatter that some other blogs do, though.
Only by posters, not anyone else.
I thought I remembered comments at Prof. Balkin's blog. I could be wrong, or perhaps the practice has been changed.
Forget it, Josh. It's Clowntown.
This particular debate seems to have moved away from the normal scholarly discussion and into some weird personal reputation hurt feelings universe. It's maybe a little entertaining to watch in an auto accident kind of way.
Well, I'm not sure.
It strikes me that Josh is trying to promote this idea as a major scholarly coup for Tillman and himself, as if they'd discovered Tut's tomb. And they've picked up some supporters.
I think some pushback is appropriate.
Agree with Bernard11, Prof Blackmun seems to be trying a "this one weird newspaper article make me technically correct" argument. (An argument that is sadly linked with a somewhat pathetic "pretty pretty pleeeeaaaase interview me on TV as the 'alternate opinion' guy who will support your confirmation bias".)
That's not how actual academic or judicial originalism works. It deserves pushback.
Blackman sees, "Wonderful things?"
Yes, I agree Bernard. I'm glad there has been pushback. But the tone on both sides is a little strange. For instance Akhil Amar has foamed at the mouth on his podcast for literal hours about how wrong Tillman and Blackman and others are who are making this argument. And Blackman's post here about the newspaper article was just attacking Graber's offhand challenge, it doesn't even really support Blackman's argument. It's all become personal, in a somewhat nasty way.
Pounding the table.
Looking at the quantity and quality of the historical evidence presented by Prof Blackmun, and the way Prof Graber took off and nuked that evidence from orbit, I have little doubt which argument a genuine, committed originalist on the S.Ct. will find persuasive.
So .. the vote of Justice Thomas is still undetermined, and probably that of Justice Alito.
Alito has never purported to be an originalist, and generally has no qualms about mocking them.
Dobbs indicates Alito likes to dress up like an originalist at least.
http://spectator.org/sam-alito-a-civil-man/
But, yes, I agree that his brand of "originalism" is a fig leaf for conservative outcome-oriented jurisprudence. That was kinda my point 🙂
So how do you square all this angel-pin-dancing with the appointments clause?
The appointments clause argument is the angels dancing on the head of the pin position, not the other way around.
Adam Unikowsky:
(emphasis added)
https://adamunikowsky.substack.com/p/is-the-supreme-court-seriously-going-40f
This argument was stupid when it was in a post several weeks ago, its no less stupid now.
"theory of constitutional interpretation that treats the Constitution as a riddle to be solved by skilled enigmatologists"
No need for lawyers I guess anymore. Everyman a Constitutional Scholar!
There's no reason in itself why the Appointments clause requires an interpretation that the President is not an officer.
"[H]e shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law[...]."
Even if we say that "all other" is included in relation to the preceding appointments and not in relation to the President himself, it wouldn't be inconsistent with the President being an Officer. Setting 14/3 aside, Is there a practical reason that you would interpret the Constitution such that the President isn't an Officer? Does something else actually break if you count him among them?
If the answer is "No, everything works fine," then it does seem a bit convoluted to insist on an interpretation in conflict with the plain meaning, solely for the sake of justifying a few extra billable hours.
Blackman/Tillman are positing an interpretation that 99% of lawyers do not agree with — and as they themselves admit, that 99.9% of lawyers never even contemplated until Blackman/Tillman came up with it. (Yes, the exact percentages are made up.) It's one thing to say that something is a legal term of art that only someone who has legal experience would understand. It's another to say that common words have a secret meaning that it takes years of scholarship and puzzling over a few minor prepositions to figure out. The drafters of the constitution — and more importantly, the drafters of the 14th amendment — had no reason to use code. They were not trying to obfuscate the issue.
94% of statistics are made up.
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Your analogy is flawed, and specious: The Chief Justice does not appoint other justices. And nobody is implying that the cleaning service staff are officers of the US.
It's not an analogy: it's a parallel construction offered (persuasively, I think) for illustrative purposes.
What Noscitur a sociis said.
You don't even understand the answer to the question you posed, so it's hard to see where to go from here.
Doing my part to contribute to the scholarship.
Has anyone found this one (from May 29, 1865):
https://www.nytimes.com/1865/05/30/archives/reconstruction-in-north-carolina.html?searchResultPosition=82?
President Andrew Johnson says "[t]he President of the United States is, by the Constitution, made Commander-in-Chief of the army and navy, as well as Chief Executive Officer of the United States."
"An historian might ask, how representative is the Louisville Daily Journal and what is the Louisville Daily Journal representative of?"
So true! Recall that the Fourteenth Amendment, unlike the Thirteenth, was ratified by legislatures appointed by decree of insurrectionists against the lawfully organized Confederate States of America. The newspaper was, like at least 68 others, representative of this body of democratic voters. But doesn't this itself mandate a different understanding of at least two sections of the Fourteenth?
Recognizing the importance of Democrat Andrew Johnson and the relatively rapid loss-of-power by Pharoah Lincoln's Radical Republicans is critical to an understanding of the Fourteenth: as Pharoah Lincoln's acolytes revealed their impotence, they desperately needed the dose of elixir provided by the Fourteenth. Today, we see Clintonites desperate for similar impotence treatment -- and wriggling for interpretation of the Fourteenth which makes information warfare neither a form of insurrection nor a form of "question."
Kentucky didn't ratify the 14th Amendment until 1976
Of course, if the Framers intended "that Section 3 disqualified anyone who held a federal or state office from holding any federal or state office" [who did the oath and violated it], they would have written it that straight-forward way. But they didn't. Since there is a plethora of authorities suggesting yay and nay, the Rule of Lenity would favor the person to be disaffected by the standard, and the nays would have it for Trump [unfortunately].
Is that not a Rule of construction for criminal statutes? It might apply here by…transitivity?
I wonder what you're counting as an "authority" in this "plethora" in order to find parity, here.