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Legislators Don't Have First Amendment Right Not to Show Up to Legislature
From Linthicum v. Wagner, decided Wednesday (correctly, I think) by Judge Ann Aiken (D. Ore.):
The Oregon Constitution requires that each chamber of the Oregon legislature have a quorum of two-thirds of the members to conduct business. Or. Const. art IV, § 12. In recent years, the legislature has been intermittently paralyzed by walkouts in which members of the minority party absent themselves to deny the legislature a quorum.
In response to these walkouts, Oregon voters overwhelmingly approved Measure 113 in 2022 to amend the Oregon Constitution to penalize excessive absences by legislators. Following the passage of Measure 113, Article IV, section 15 of the Oregon Constitution was amended to read as follows:
Either house may punish its members for disorderly behavior, and may with the concurrence of two thirds, expel a member; but not a second time for the same cause. Failure to attend, without permission or excuse, ten or more legislative floor sessions called to transact business during a regular or special legislative session shall be deemed disorderly behavior and shall disqualify the member from holding office as a Senator or Representative for the term following the election after the member's current term is completed.
Beginning on May 3, 2023, a group of Oregon state senators belonging to the minority party staged a walkout which deprived the chamber of a quorum…. The walkout lasted until late June 2023 and, by the time it came to an end, ten state senators, including the Senator Plaintiffs, had accrued more than ten unexcused absences. The state senators were disqualified from running for reelection based on Measure 113 and a challenge to that determination is currently pending before the Oregon Supreme Court….
For purposes of this motion [for a preliminary injunction, the parties focus their dispute on … whether participation in the legislative walkout by the Senator Plaintiffs is constitutionally protected activity. The First Amendment "has no application when what is restricted is not protected speech." … [T]hese walkouts were not simply protests—they were an exercise of the Senator Plaintiffs' official power and were meant to deprive the legislature of the power to conduct business.
Whether the legislator is present in the chamber to debate and vote on a bill or absents themselves from the chamber to deny a quorum, both actions are alike in that they are an exercise of the power of the legislator's office. The Supreme Court has held that performing the functions of a legislator are not a personal prerogative but are instead a public trust. In Nevada Commission on Ethics v. Carrigan (2011), the Supreme Court held that "a legislator's vote is the commitment of his apportioned share of the legislature's power to the passage or defeat of a particular proposal," and "[t]he legislative power thus committed is not personal to the legislator but belongs to the people; the legislator has no personal right to it." Put more plainly, "the procedures for voting in legislative assemblies pertain to legislators not as individuals but as political representatives executing the legislative process."
In consequence, the Supreme Court "rejected the notion that the First Amendment confers a right to use governmental mechanics to convey a message" and held that "a legislator has no right to use official powers for expressive purposes." "Moreover, the fact that a nonsymbolic act is the product of deeply held personal belief—even if the actor would like it to convey his deeply held personal belief—does not transform action into First Amendment speech."
The facts in Carrigan involved a legislator being prevented by a recusal law from voting or speaking on a particular matter before the state legislature. However, the same rationale can be applied to provisions which are intended to compel attendance at the legislature. Indeed, the United State Congress is empowered by the Constitution itself to "compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide." U.S. Const. Art. I, § 5. It has been long recognized that these penalties may be as severe as arrest and imprisonment.
The Supreme Court has held that "[a] universal and long-established tradition of prohibiting certain conduct creates a strong presumption that the prohibition is constitutional." If no less a body than the United States Congress may compel the attendance of its members by imprisonment without running afoul of the First Amendment, then the Court cannot see how a lesser penalty, such as temporary disqualification, or the threat of temporary disqualification, for the same conduct would constitute a violation of the free speech rights of the Senator Plaintiffs.
In sum, the Court concludes that the use of legislative walkouts is not constitutionally protected activity for purposes of the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment and so, on this record, Plaintiffs have not established either a likelihood of success on the merits or serious questions going to the merits of their claim for First Amendment retaliation….
Anuradha Sawkar, Brian Simmonds Marshall, and Thomas H. Castelli represent defendants.
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These walk-outs are also with the losers who want to cede Oregon territory to Idaho.
Democracy is great! Until it isn't.
I don't know why Oregon wants to keep these counties.
Keep the counties. Leave the clingers.
Keep the productive, leave the Kirklands.
LMFAO.
Blustering, all-talk red state parasites are among my favorite culture war casualties.
I enjoy watching these right-wing losers continue to comply with the preferences of better Americans while they seethe impotently about all of this damned reason, progress, science, modernity, inclusiveness, and education.
Carry on, clingers .. . so far as the culture war's winners permit you to do anything.
Sure, let the MAGAs in the flat parts of Eastern Oregon join the MAGAs of Greater Idaho (that what the movement is called).
In the same spirt then, the remaining state of Oregon keeps the I-84 corridor: the Columbia River from Hood River & The Dalles, all the way to Boardman; than southeast through Pendleton and La Grande to Ontario; then on to Meridian/Boise, which has a lot more in common with northwestern Oregon than with the rest of Idaho (skip Nampa/Caldwell. OK, maybe Meridian too).
Would leave Oregon the majority of both Oregon's and Idaho's current population (especially the GNP-producing part) with a subtle leavening of eastern Oregon conservatives, while Idaho happily ejects its Portland-like liberals in favor of its own soulmates in the Harney Basin to Pacific south coast.
Everybody's happy!
So when this is extended to mandatory voting, you'll be fine with that?
It's officially winter in a few days.
Make sure your slope isn't too slippery.
You don't see a difference between requiring someone to show up for a job that they went to a large amount of trouble and expense to get themselves elected to, versus the common voter?
If anything, that logic goes the other way, Krychek. You volunteered to be a legislator. You can unvolunteer at any time.
Regardless, the necessary distinction isn't a moral or even a logical one but a legal one. The distinction you draw would not be relevant to the legal analysis made by the court above. To Drewski's point below, I think citizens likely could be required to file a ballot - and I'm not yet sure whether that's a positive social result or not.
My office has support contractors. They serve on an at-will basis, and can quit anytime. With no notice, if they wanna be dicks about it.
That does not absolve them of fundamental job responsibilities.
Invalid comparison, Sarcastr0. They can quit at any time but they can also be fired at any time. That's the essence of at-will. Legislators, on the other hand, can quit but can't be so easily fired.
I agree that this shouldn't absolve them of job responsibilities but that is a moral argument, not a legal one.
I think legislators could be compelled to enter a vote or an explicit abstention if the body so chose. Similarly, I think citizens eligible to vote could constitutionally be required to register and file a ballot - but couldn't be required to vote with it. I even think it would be okay as a matter of policy except for all the inevitable whining.
As a libertarian I do not think that eligible citizens should be required to submit a ballot (it goes without saying that a blank ballot would have to be permissible). But the one salutary effect of such a requirement would be that it would obviate the inevitably partisan fights over voter registration drives, GOTV efforts, etc.
Aiken has a long history of protecting the dirty Democrats in this state. She dismissed a case that involved billions in Medicaid fraud by state OHP contractor because the records clearly showed the sale of HIV records to the contractor by the state, who was selling those. The whistleblower, injured on the job and partially paralyzed. Was disallowed medical care by Aiken, McShane and their crony, Russo. 18 foster kids died because these swine issued gag orders prohibiting that whistleblower from sending evidence to the Congress, CMS, HHS, or any other agency that had jurisdiction over thus. The bast*rds that did this are still in business, acting as the benefits manager under a well known “evi…” that has killed the wives of NYC policeman, even GOP politicians and their family members. Why won’t Reason run this story? Are you protecting Oregon, too?
Are you mentally ill?
Trying to figure out how Democracy is practiced by people refusing to do their jobs.
Oh, well.
Absolutely the correct conclusion. Legislative authority to penalize non-attendance and even use force to compel attendance goes back as far as legislatures, and was adopted as part of the Constitution. Nobody thought the 1st amendment overrode that.
Actually, 1A is EXACTLY what the Plaintiffs' complaint is about.
". . . In their Complaint, ECF No. 1, Plaintiffs bring claims for violation of their civil rights pursuant to 42 U.S.C. § 1983 alleging (1) First Amendment retaliation; (2) violation of Plaintiffs’ First Amendment right to freedom of association; (3) violation of Plaintiffs’ First Amendment right to free exercise of their religion . . . . "
Yeah, that's why I noted that "Nobody thought that the 1st amendment overrode that.". As an originalist matter, the plaintiffs complaint is bunk.
The very same people who wrote Article 1, Section 5:
"Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members, and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner, and under such penalties as each House may provide."
wrote the 1st amendment, and nobody understood them to be repealing that clause of the Constitution.
Some states the recalcitrant ones fled to another state where the sergeant at arms had no authority. This amendment would seem to cover that situation. There's still no authority to drag then back, but they can be held responsible.
You assume there is a finite number of potential candidates these rebelling counties can field -- and I don't. Particularly if it with INTENT of not going to the legislature, you could have kids attending college out of state, retired folks who would think it fun to piss off the a-hoes in Seattle, etc.
The other thing is who gets to determine if the absence is excused -- and how is that not political? "My blood pressure is running high today" -- and for most legislators, it routinely does.
Yeah, if it became a persistent practice you'd need further measures, such as deeming failure to attend sessions as being voluntary abandonment of the seat, and stating that the quorum was to be calculated according to occupied seats.
The cleanest remedy would be to set a quorum at a simple majority of members, like it is in most States. Was that impossible for Oregon to achieve by referendum?
But then you have factions holding flash votes with an unrepresentative bare majority; In the extreme passing measures that only have 26 votes out of 100, by making sure all 26 yes votes are present, and only 25 no votes.
At a minimum, you'd need a rule that measures could not pass without the required majority of the ENTIRE chamber, regardless of how few members were present.
"very same people who wrote Article 1, Section 5 ... wrote the 1st amendment"
The Constitutional Convention wrote Article 1, Section 5, the First Congress wrote the 1st amendment. Some overlap but not identical.
Not perfectly identical, true, but enough overlap to establish a presumption they weren't attempting to undo their prior work.
Excellent citation. And a [worthy] principled position too.
Claiming something the Constitution specifically permits is unconstitutional would seem more than a bit of an uphill climb.
The Constitution only specifically permits it for the US Congress, in the same way that the US Senate runs on rules that have been held unconstitutional for state senates, because they violate the principle of one man one vote.
I suppose the two cases are similar; You had a principle the courts wanted to impose, which conflicted with widespread practice at both the federal and state level.
The federal constitution, of course, only explicitly permits it for the federal government, because it IS the federal constitution, and the states had their own constitutions. It was not thought either necessary or appropriate for the federal constitution to dictate the structure of state governments.
The fact that the very constitution being claimed as a basis for the courts' own principle contradicted it might give lesser men pause...
There’s not even a prayer of an argument that that applies. The Equal Protection Clause applies ONLY against states, not Congress. And States are individually sovereign, the Senate represents sovereign states in their sovereign capacity. States have constitutional rights against the federal government. But cities, counties, and other units of local government are not sovereign. They are mere creatures of convenience for states, and have no constitutional rights of their own.
Here the First Amendment unequivocably applies against the federal government. If it’s unconstituional for states to compel attendence, there is no basis for distinguishing and claiming it’s somehow constitutional for Congress. Either the First Amendment implicitly repealed the compulsory attendance clause for Congress, or it didn’t. And if it’s not inconsistent with compulsory attendance clauses, there’s no reason states can’t have their own.
There’s not even a prayer of an argument that that applies. The Equal Protection Clause applies ONLY against states, not Congress.
You're overlooking the "equal protection component of the 5th amendment's Due Process Clause." (Yes, as a matter of serious constitutional interpretation, it's bullshit, but the Supremes felt that "it would be unthinkable that the same Constitution would impose a lesser duty on the Federal Government," at least on matters that the Supremes thought really important, such as school segregation.)
No equal protection claim was made here. The only constitutional claim made was a First Amendment claim. But the “equal protection component of the due process clause” is by no means the same as the equal protection clause. Just ask any illegal immigrant.
"But cities, counties, and other units of local government are not sovereign. They are mere creatures of convenience for states, and have no constitutional rights of their own."
I should think that was a matter of state constitutional law, and that states were perfectly free to subdivide their internal allotment of sovereignty, if they so desired.
The claims here were based on federal constitutional law.
And states can’t subdivide their internal sovereignty in ways that violate the federal constitution. That’s one of the things Baker v. Carr decided.
It reminds me of the case where a state university professor, fired for having an insufficient publication record, claimed that the constitution gave him a First Amendment right to remain silent.
Sorry. Even a government job is still a job. You have to show up, and you have to produce.
Weinstein v. Univ. of Illinois, 811 F.2d 1091 (7th Cir, 1987).
Almost. The First Amendment claim was in the district court opinion in the case but stopped there. It looks like Professor Weinstein, perhaps wisely, decided not to include his First Amendment claim in his appeal to 7th Circuit.
Walkouts were more entertaining when they were filibusters.
Did any state authorize filibusters or was it just the US Senate.
If they had a right to do this, then that crank who didn't wanna issue marriage licenses to gay people wouldn't have a problem, either. Yet government may not deny rights just because someone doesn't want to fulfill them. As in both cases, the elected officials, who are the government, not employees of it must fulfill their duties, or find someone who can. Which, in the case of voting on behalf of your constituents, cannot be cast to others (I assume).
The ones who show up are the problem
The ones who show up are the problem
"Ann Aiken (D. Ore.)"
D. is correct. The plaintiffs lost when the clerk made the assignment.
Insane judges shouldn't be on the bench:
"Judge Aiken instead was compelled by the argument that access to a clean environment was a fundamental right, allowing the case to proceed." wikipedia
Do you have a problem with the holding, or just going to wallow in ad hominem?
I sure do hope you're retired, because the idea that any your job might include one day indirectly assisting a liberal seems like it'd really bother you.
It's a credibility determination, chief. You're usually all over those.
He just doesn't know what ad hominem means. That freshman logic class was so long ago.
This is not a fact being offered, it is a judicial opinion.
An opinion I notice you have still not bothered to engage with, Bob.
You're not fooling anyone at this point.
A credibility determination regarding a judicial opinion?!
Don't cargo cult arguments, it makes you look like a moron.
"Do you have a problem with the holding..."
You don't have a problem with the holding?
Not even Brett has a problem with the holding, chief.
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Judges delusional enough to believe fairy tales are true . . . who believe in childish nonsense and silly dogma . . . or a bigoted dumbass who claims to believe there is an actual devil among us?
I seem to recall the same thing from Wisconsin legislators about 10 years ago, fleeing Madison to Deep Blue Illinois to avoid voting for a key bill proposed by their new GOP Governor as part of his campaign.
Lots of media publicity, complete with breathless interviews on how "Brave" they were to stay in Illinois high end hotels with room service for 2 weeks.
I can't recall all the details, but there was a big debate about whether the Wisconsin Supreme Court could order them back or send State Troopers to drag them back to the floor to vote.
Read the OP. There's a bunch of laws and amendments to the Oregon constitution here that weren't the case in previous examples.
Any official power the Senator Plaintiffs might have is delegated to them by the sovereign people of Oregon, by their adoption of the state constitution and subsequent amendments. So their walkouts were not legitimate exercises of that power.
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