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"Say No To Police Profanity"
An interesting column by one of my favorite commentators, Prof. John McWhorter. An excerpt:
Precincts across the nation do, in fact, have rules against profanity on the job. However, they are barely enforced if at all …. This casual cursing at people is not a mere matter of the informality of our times and it must stop. It is a much more serious matter than it may seem….
Profanity can be a form of hostility. To be sure, I am skeptical of claims that injurious words always constitute "trauma" (just as I am that "silence is violence"). However, profanity can still be a game changer. In interactions with cops it influences public perception. One study (of many similar) showed that, when presented with a silent video of a person detained by a police officer with captions in which the officers' profanity was left out, observers judged the interaction as more reasonable than when the profanity was included in the captions. Other studies similarly document that, when it comes to the cops, profanity matters—profoundly influencing how citizens view their interactions with police….
On the other hand, we must not fall for a crude, blanket notion that police officers must never be caught in a recording using, say, the word "fuck" on the job for any reason. This would operate upon an almost willfully uninformed sense of how language actually works. Any word remotely interesting likely has a lot of meanings….
Fuck—subject of one whole study on police interactions since it seems so fertile within them—has many meanings and functions. Rather a bouquet of them, in fact. It can be a passing, frustrated interjection, in the function of the Peanuts gang's "Rats." It can signal joy of a demotic flavor, a lexical kind of camaraderie, as when then-Vice President Biden used it when Obamacare was signed into the books.
We must also allow that speech norms are less formal than they once were. It's safe to say that, now, most people use four-letter words in work settings in ways that would have been unthinkable in the era of fedoras, camisoles, lawsuits over what got sent through the mail, and married couples sleeping in twin beds on television. We can't penalize police officers for being caught ever using profanity for any reason on the job.
Yet the issue here is not especially complex or subtle. In interactions with the public, police officers should not use profanity in ways that connote hostility, impatience, or dominance. More economically, the idea is that they should not use it in ways that are mean.
Seems reasonable to me, and indeed I expect that most government employers should and would forbid their employees from using profanity in an angry or aggressive way when speaking with the people they serve. (Certainly the First Amendment doesn't generally bar government employers from imposing such restrictions on speech that is part of the employee's job.) I appreciate that police officers may sometimes need to signal a form of aggressiveness; "drop the gun or I'll shoot" is aggressive, but justified. But I suspect that aggressive profanity generally adds a needless level of tension, hostility, and indignity to most situations.
Of course, mentioning the word in the course of describing facts (e.g., "In that altercation you were describing, who exactly was the person who said 'fuck you' to you?") is a completely different matter; and I also agree that there should generally be tolerance for some casual nonhostile profanity, given modern norms: "Fuck!" as an expression of surprise, or of annoyance at one's own minor mistake, is still unprofessional, but probably not an occasion for firing or serious discipline. But those, as McWhorter notes, are separate questions.
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C'mon, Rev! The gate is wide open!
You're mistaken. Prof. Volokh somehow managed to avoid including a vile racial slur in this one.
Yeah, but aren't you supposed to robotically bitch about how he doesn't post about what YOU think he should post about instead of this? Isn't this part of some sort of sinister posting pattern that you deeply disapprove of?
So, “Don’t move asshole! Drop the motherfucking gun! Get on your goddamn knees or I’ll fuckin’ blow you away!” Is probably not best practice.
Only if your partner is yelling "DON'T MOVE!" at the same time.
Why give the asshole a chance? Like Curley Bill said in “Tombstone” "I’d take that deal ‘n’ crawfish, then drill that ol’ Devil in the ass."
Frank
JMW is great, and his article brings up a good perspective. But--as someone who has, admittedly, never been shot at--you have to account for sympathetic nervous response in tense situations. If it's a cop intentionally bullying someone using the word, absolutely nix it. But cops deal with a lot of unhinged, dangerous folks; I'd rather their brainpower be focused on split-second decisions about appropriate use of force/de-escalation. Of course, different story for routine stops, when suspects have been corralled for a while already, etc.
That was (as I read it) the thrust of the underlying article. In situations of high-stress, a lot more leeway is--and should be--given, for the reason(s) you mention. During calmer interactions, much less leeway.
Seems reasonable. One problem is that, once a person is habituated to using casual profanity, it's really really difficult to change that behavior. Similar to the lamentably common linguistic crutches of adding meaningless "...you know..." and "...like..." to sentences. "The witness was, like, running toward me, and, you know, shouting that she'd just been, like, robbed." As a former teacher, it was maddening to hear it coming from my students. But what're you gonna do?
"once a person is habituated to using casual profanity, it’s really really difficult to change that behavior."
It is. Recommendation to all folks out there: if your partner/spouse whatevs is also trying to reduce to zero cuz there's a baby on the way try not to refer to your partner/spouse as a "potty mouth" when you get into arguments. Especially if you're doing better than they are. Mean frustration face can turn into you'd better start running face fast as lightning.
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Cops are a lot of unhinged, dangerous folks.
What is your experience with police that leads you to this conclusion?
All you have to do is look at the plethora of cop interactions on YouTube. I would suggest The Civil Rights Lawyer channel for good commentary on the subject.
But also, screaming profanities at a tense, deranged, on-a-hair trigger, etc. person is a really really bad idea, too. So just train the cops not to do it and have consequences and be consistent. De-escalation matters, so no I don't think more leeway should be given.
That's my thought too. Some subjects might react more casually to a cop responding in normal profane slang, or will respond better to a more direct "Drop the __ Gun!" rather than "Throw thy Mistempered Weapons to the Ground!" However, in many cases, excessive swearing will escalate the situation rather than defuse it.
The point I think you're missing is that responding with hostility and profanity will never de-escalate the situation. It might be neutral but it is far more likely to escalate an already tense situation. In other words, there is no scenario where profanity can help the situation and many where it will work precisely against the goals you want police working toward.
FWIW: some years ago I went on a ride along for an afternoon with a big city police officer. She was maybe 35 or so, FWIW, so the stereotype of 'big ugly Irishman eager to crack heads' need not apply.
One of the things I asked here was whether she preferred working the upscale or low rent parts of town, and what the differences were. A paraphrase of her answer goes something like this:
"They're both OK. They aren't all that different; domestic violence is the same in mansions and apartments. You do have to use the local dialect, so in the mansion it's 'Could you please set down on the couch, sir[1]' and on the other side of the tracks it's 'Set your ass down now!'"
She went on to explain she varied her language because using the local patois was what worked: if you told the CEO to set his ass down he'd take umbrage and it would heat things up. Conversely, if you reverse the language on the south side of the tracks you get a funny look, not compliance. In her view, it was no different than speaking Spanish or English according to one's audience.
That strikes me a likely valid. I've worked jobs from construction sites to universities, and the language you'd use in one place doesn't work well in the other. To effectively communicate, you talk to people in their language, not yours.
That's not to say police use of profanity is always OK, just that a blanket ban may not be wise.
[1]to set the stage, you walk into a living room where a marital dispute is in progress, sufficiently serious that the police were called. Step 1 is to get hubby and wife separated and talking to the officers, not yelling at each other. Usually, you want hubby to set down because it fixes his position and will give you a skosh more warning if he decides to attack you or wifey. You move the wife as far away from hubby as possible, but not in the kitchen (because there are knives in the kitchen).
"Set" down? In what dialect is it that rather than "sit"?
It's pretty standard Pittsburghese.
So something like this is a little less than professional?
I think language was the least of problems in that video. The thug in the blue uniform did far worse things than swear.
My take on this is very different and I would say the same thing I have said to student workers in the past — reserve obscenities for TRUE emergencies. This is particularly true for women who simply don’t have the lung capacity that men do and hence lack the volume.
Case in point, one person reported the surprise Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor to someone (on a military radio) with “…and this is no shit.” Vulgar by 1941 standards, it made it clear that the situation was serious enough, and need for help dire enough, that he didn’t care about getting into trouble for foul language on the radio.
If you have a reputation for never swearing, the one time you do it is going to get noticed. So if an officer needs to evacuate an area *quickly* and doesn’t have time to explain why, or needs to remove someone from a situation quickly and again doesn’t have time to explain why, a department that otherwise would never swear has the added tool of selective obscenities.
But if you do it all the time, it won’t get noticed.
It’s like when the train from Boston lost its brakes going into DC's Union Station back in 1948. (Today it could be re-routed onto the Virginia commuter rail tracks, but back then, all tracks ended at Union Station.) The baggage guy (probably Black) screaming at passengers was *so* unusual that he got everyone out of there in time — the locomotive came in, went through the floor and wound up where the food court is today.
In addition to everything else, I argue that obscenities should be kept in reserve for when you NEED them.
“Now this is no shit” is how you start sea stories.
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There was a train crash at Union Station in 1948, but it was Union Station in Los Angeles. There was a different train crash in 1953 at Union Station in DC, but in addition to getting the date wrong, everything else Dr. Ed writes about the incident is… well, Dr. Edish. No idea what "baggage guy" he's talking about, how he determined the skin color of the guy he invented, or what any of this has to do with the actual topic of this post. But Dr. Ed got to use the word "Boston," and that's enough for him.
OK,I got the date wrong. https://www.wired.com/2010/01/0114train-crash-dc-union-station/
Ad the LA train did not demolish the station: https://laist.com/news/found-in-la-scary-1948-train-derail
see also: https://laist.com/news/found-in-la-scary-1948-train-derail
The DC train did not demolish the station either; indeed, it was back up and running a couple of days later. What that has to do with the topic of the post is left as an exercise for the deranged reader, though.
Maybe Dr. Ed's illusory Black guy is the same illusory Black guy who haunts the white, male, conservative Volokh Conspirators to distraction and disaffectedness?
Professionalism calls for professionalism.
In stressful moments or outside of work while not in uniform, there's lalochezia.
Try to cut down on the language unless the gun is drawn folks.
WAIT!!!!!
Is there a coincidence that when comedians are 'working blue' they use naughty language AND Police have that whole thin blue line thing? And naughty words?
Think about it.
Yes, it's a coincidence but it isn't terribly interesting to think about.
I suspect that police will get more pissed off at civilians’ use of “fuck” and variations thereof, including the Jacksonian Noun, than civilians are permitted to be when the police use the same language.
There is no right to verbal self-defense with a cop, so don't try to match his/her/their/zir profanity.
what a bunch of fucking bullshit,
lets see, growing up, my Dad the B52 pilot took the Lord's name in vain, oh, probably 10-20 times a day that I witnessed, of course I only saw him for a few hours, on weekends it was more, mom about the same, but cursed in German. Every Little League/Basketball/Foobawl Coach growing up cursed like a Sailor (some were Sailors) the one who didn't, who said "Heck" and "Darn" and "H-E-Double Hockey Sticks" was the one who turned out to be a Pedofile,
Frank
Seriously, they already don't let cops shoot fleeing felons, pursue fleeing vehicles in many circumstances, carry body cams (who here has never rubbed one out during working hours? so cops either have to be really discrete or get dee-cee-plined for turning the cam off) act as armed Social Workers, and now they can't even curse?
Fuck that Shit!
Frank
No. They just shoot handcuffed suspects six times in their patrol cars and get off.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/12/06/owen-verdict-police-shooting-prince-georges-not-guilty/
"We should encourage cops to masturbate at work more" is not a policy proposal I expected to see in the comments, although I've seen worse ones here.
If they're jerking off, they're not out violating someone's civil rights.
I really expected the "study" link to go to that one scene from The Wire.
Where does Mark Fuhrman fit into this?
If Mark Fuhrman has not guest-posted at this blog yet, that’s a remarkable oversight.
Maybe Jonah Goldberg misplaced the invitation?
What happens in the military if enlisted personnel being given commands reply with profanity directed at an officer? Tolerance? Sometimes? Almost never? Depends on the situation? Depends on the officer?
How about at West Point, when cadets address visitors to the academy? How much profanity do visitors hear then?
One technique to instill disciplined conduct is to reach directly into the life of the person under discipline, and impose personal self-constraint beyond usual expectations. To enforce that as a customary routine can be dramatically transformative.
It follows, by the way, that an authority figure visibly under self control tends to inspire that conduct likewise in people subject to authority. But note also that if an emergency requires an instantaneous disciplined response, it can interfere with communication to deliver instructions (or orders) in a tone or language so calm that it clashes with the urgency of the situation. But the more disciplined customary conduct becomes, the less inflection is required to control rare emergencies.
Note also that the remarks above may apply better in some cultures than in others. People accustomed to obey authoritarian leadership may require being barked at to remind them of their relative status. People accustomed to high relative status will not respond well, however.
Notice that you don't need a particular rule against profanity to achieve that. The military may or may not have such a rule but the enlisted person isn't going to be excused because he responded by saying "That's a dumb order you stupid turd" and didn't technically say anything profane.
Just demand professional behavior. That way the officer who is building bridges and connecting with community members and uses profanity to connect or in a way that doesn't disrespect anyone isn't screwed while the officer who is a total disrespectful unprofessional dickwad with a clean mouth gets away.
So profane!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlCilKlqrvI
Demanding professionalism is good but making the rule about profanity just muddies the waters. It just encourages the police to be equally unprofessional and disrespectful while avoiding certain language.
Most of us work in environments with standards of professionalism and there is no need for a specific rule against profanity. We understand they aren't magic and that some uses aren't problematic. McWhorter grants this point but once granted we have to use context and judgement anyway so why have an escape clause for officers who say "F u you stupid motherfer" rather than actually saying "fuck?"
Very well said.
Rules like that are the reason why cops started using "little people" in place of racial slurs.
McWhorter wrote, "Any word remotely interesting likely has a lot of meanings."
Entertaining elaborations:
Usage of the word FUCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_PkJ_4oEjc
Different Ways of Using the Word Fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tRGD2Jn7I8
As a retired law enforcement officer (cop)...
You quickly learn that vile language has a place in interactions of the street.
I was a rookie, one of my functions was to book incoming arrests. As one of the few college-bred cops in 1974, more so, whitebread Yankee in a very deep south community, my first ever interactions in the black community. My hometown reportedly had a black area, I never saw it, and in my high school of about 1600, there were never more than three black students. In booking, I could get away with using $.25 words that left the unschooled arrestees' heads swimming. But, when riding with experienced cops, I learned that foul language was often the only language on the street, In routine communication, it appeared in the phraseology of the streets, and to be accepted one would casually sprinkle it in one's words. In high-stress situations, it took on an important aspect...to indicate one's true intent in the situation. "Drop the gun, put up your hands" does not carry the weight of "drop the fucking gun and don't make me have to shoot you motherfucker." It is neither a loss of control nor an attempt to deprecate the offender; it is an attempt to show the offender one's strong intent under the situation. And it works.
Again, as a Yankee college graduate kid in the earl;y 1970s...I had dismissed the "N" word from my vocabulary. In this largely black, very lower-class community, it was suddenly a word I heard constatntly. At first I took offense, Then, riding with a black officer, I saw a different world. Busy Friday evening, streets crowded with people out partying, visiting, whatever. He suddenly stops, calls out among a couple hundred folks in and along the street, "Hey 'N', come here." And the man did. They then had a completely friendly conversation! Lesson learned, it's not always a bad word. Now I would not address someone with the term; indeed, I found my college-based vocabulary provided me terms to use that actually so confused people they didn't know what to do.
Many years ago, CBS 60 Minutes, Dan Rather was interviewing a half dozen black street kids, in the studio, from the streets of NY. As Dan questioned them about street life, drugs, gangs, and whatever, he addressed one with a question. The reply was "who, me?" Rather looked dumbfounded, this was not a commonly known phrase in middle America at the time. I roared, as any street cop would know the answer was "No, motherfucker, the mouse in your pocket," which would then set forth a level of understanding, and conversation would go on.
It seems that there is to be a control on the language of lawmen. 70 years ago, it was indeed appropriate. Life has changed. America has changed. The '60s loosed the locks on the American lexicon, and unacceptable language became acceptable. To expect the cop on the street to speak proper King's English is to place hypocritical limits on the police, to indeed limit their ability to communicate on the job. No, you would not speak to a Priest or Imam, in that manner (that was a hard one, as only truly holy people seem to have eradicated that language from their vocabulary [and I've experienced a couple who haven't]). But even Elon Musk recently used that horrid F word to make a point...and JFK, LBJ and many others were proponents of its use...