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David Lat, "Against Free-Speech Hypocrisy"
"And in (partial) defense of Harvard President Claudine Gay's controversial congressional testimony."
From David Lat (Original Jurisdiction), a characteristically well-written and thoughtful analysis. Lat acknowledges that many universities have departed from what he (and I) think is the proper protection of speech:
[A]s my longtime readers know, and as the rest of this post will make clear—I abhor free-speech selectivity. So I do not defend, and in fact I condemn, the many, many times that university leaders, including law school deans, have run roughshod over free expression to advance certain (typically progressive) political perspectives. These are often the very same leaders who, in the words of Greg Lukianoff, "have suddenly rediscovered the value of free speech and academic freedom." Such inconsistency, even hypocrisy, is utterly unacceptable. And if you read through the Original Jurisdiction archives, you will see me repeatedly calling it out over the years….
But he argues (as do I) that the solution is equally protecting various views, not equally restricting them:
Some of my conservative friends expressed support for applying anti-bullying and anti-harassment policies to students who chant or hold posters saying "globalize the Intifada" or "from the river to the sea." Their argument: even if these chants or posters weren't directed at individual students, some individual Jewish or Israeli students subjectively felt threatened, bullied, harassed, or intimidated. And having read many harrowing accounts of what's going on today on American university campuses, I have no doubt that this is true.
But if subjective offense or upset is the standard—sufficient to override a lack of individual targeting, severity, or pervasiveness—then what about a conservative student writing an op-ed in the Harvard Crimson criticizing gender-affirming surgery? I'm sure such an op-ed would cause some individual transgender students to subjectively feel threatened, bullied, harassed, or intimidated.
Here's a second argument I heard, from a conservative friend who generally shares my strong pro-free-speech views. Antisemitic speech can and should be banned because—by denying the humanity of certain participants in discourse (Jewish people), effectively seeking to banish them from the forum—it is antithetical to the ground rules for free and civil discourse.
But let's put the shoe on the other foot. I wonder how my conservative friend would distinguish his argument from that of my former colleague Joe Patrice, who wrote in Above the Law (citing Karl Popper) that "tolerance demands the intolerance of intolerance."
Here's an example. Progressives would argue that anti-trans speech, such as criticism of gender-affirming surgery or questioning the participation of trans athletes in girls' and women's sports, can and should be banned. Why? By denying the humanity of certain participants in discourse (transgender people), effectively seeking to banish them from the forum, it is antithetical to the ground rules for free and civil discourse.
To be clear, I reject this intellectual end-run around free speech, whether deployed on behalf of Jewish people or transgender people. Tolerance demands… tolerance, including of the most vile, reprehensible opinions known to man….
I hope that recent free-speech controversies will make us more consistent—and more passionate—in defending free speech. If you have a strongly held view on the Israel-Palestine situation that you've been sharing in recent weeks, remember this: other people have equally strong views, and your ability to share your opinion depends on a free-speech culture that requires letting others share their views as well.
The whole thing is much worth reading.
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Thank you for sharing my post with your readers and for the thoughtful exchange that inspired it, Eugene!
Keep writing...you are doing good work Mr. Lat.
I really appreciated Lat’s column, and yours. My frustration the past 24 hours has been the 1A pundits saying 1A protects it, it must be allowed, without any caveats about the schools reasonably cracking down on vandalism, classroom interruptions, etc. and so providing just as tone deaf and partial answers as Gay, Magill and Kornbluth
To that end, I am curious about conflicts between the First Amendment and Title VI and about how the campus environment has been mischaracterized over the past two months.
Does the sum total of students and professors vigorously expressing their 1A protected views regarding how Israel is committing genocide and so Israel must be pushed into the sea along with her Jewish, or her Zionist citizens (many of whom are related to Jews on campus), continuously across campus, 24x7for two months, in dorm rooms, in dining halls, in classes, in writing assignments, in graded tests, in email, in text messages, in club resolutions, in campus newsletters, in flyers, in marches across campus, and by specific resolutions excluding “Zionists” from events, clubs, associations, does that sum total of 1A protected views violate Title VI or is that something Jewish students need to just grin and bear?
If it does violate Title VI what can the schools do that would not violate the 1A rights of the students or professors?
Grin and bear. I feel like that was the whole point. We all have to grin and bear (and hopefully have the courage to argue against) other people's dumb opinions.
The burden falls disproportionately on different people at different times based on the winds and whims of social acceptance. Just remember that free speech and protection against harassment don't imply social acceptance. It sucks to be a part of the out group but we've all been there.
It sucks to be a part of the out group but we’ve all been there.
Welcome to being a libertarian Jew in 2024.
See, the thing is, saying that you don't think trans-women (biological males) should compete against cis women (biological females) is not the same as saying you think all trans-people should be killed. Saying you don't think Native Americans should have their own lands or special benefits under the law is not the same as saying, "Let's finish what we started in the 1800s and kill all the Native Americans." Saying you think gay people are sinners is not the same as saying gays should be hung from trees. Etc., etc., etc.
The question at the congressional hearing was whether calls for genocide of the Jewish people were harassment of Jewish students. I think such calls clearly are. I think most people would agree. And they would most certainly agree under the very tight restrictions on free speech set by these universities. This might come as a shock to some, but people don't feel comfortable when you say that they and everyone who shares a similar trait should be killed. If a bunch of students cheered on the killing of George Floyd and said, "Yeah! Kill the rest of them too," everyone--or every rational person--would agree that is harassment of the black students on campus. It should be no different here.
The problem is that, for the most part, there have been very few explicit calls for killing Jews. The most common alleged call for genocide is "From the river to the sea to the sea/Palestine shall be free," which has a non-genocidal interpretation (i.e., as a call for single, bi-national democratic state).
That is, incidentally, one of the problems with censorship, as anyone has learned who tried to contain unruly and inappropriate cheers at high school football games: people will find expressions just ambiguous enough to escape sanction, then try to creep upward from there.
Riiiight ...
And the Nazis only shipped Jews to work camps.
Uh huh. And when Netanyahu’s party, Likud, says in their platform that between the sea and the Jordan River, “there will only be Israeli sovereignty”, does that imply genocide?
There seems to be a double standard here. There is no shortage of polticians in Israel or Israeli supporters in the U.S. whose rhetoric magically makes 4-5 million Palestinians vanish into nothingness, yet no one pretends that equals mass murder. How is that any different than the anti-semitism charge fabricated here?
It is SOP for the short-sighted leaders of both the Israelis and Palestinians to pretend the other side has no validity, standing, history, or rights. Anyone who thinks this an issue of only one side knows nothing about the ugly cynical brutish behavoir of these opponents over the past decades.
And it is SOP for the U.S. supporters of both the Israelis and Palestinians to reduce the charactured views of their chosen group to even more cartoonish levels. Everyone is intent of making their side out to be the perfect victim. But guess what? Their is no perfect victim here. The Gaza Palestinians killed 1800 people in a grotesquely vile terrorist attack. The Israelis have killed 9,000 to 10,000 cilivans in a wantonly brutal military action with barely a pretense of any strategic aim.
In another month or two the Israelis will have killed maybe twenty-percent of Hamas forces at best - at a cost approaching 20,000 dead civilians. They'll then leave, because they want no part of ruling Gaza (having said so repeatedly). Hamas will then resume useless murderous terrorism. Meanwhile, the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank will have spent the last three decades cooperating with the Israeli government and Israeli security and recieved only ever-tightening and suffocating oppression as reward. This works because the PA is toothless, weak, blind and completely corrupted. I'm not finding much to root for here, go-team-go-style.
Israel doesn't have a clue how to manage this situation long-term. Does anyone think they can continue blatant apartheid rule indefinately over millions of stateless Palestinians - even as they apropriate the land under their feet? But blindness sells politically in Israel so everyone ignores the future. Meanwhile, the Palestinian "rulers" do nothing for a people ground down by opression, hopelessness and poverty because they are either the quisiling corrupt PA or blood-soaked Hamas. I personally think the latter started this bloodbath at the behest of their paymasters in Tehran and Damacus in order to torpedo the Saudi-Israeli talks.
Both sides are worth nothing but contempt, yet I watch college kids mindlessly chant stupid slogans and Israeli supporters cheer scores of thousands civillian dead with undisguised bloodlust.
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Your numbers are of course made up, but also, killing 20% of an enemy army is massive damage, not the triviality you handwave it to be.
My numbers are (of course) made up, but killing 20% of a terrorist group is strategically insignificant. Plus, I suspect Hamas will have no difficulty recruiting in the rubble of their cities, particularly with 15-20K civilian dead in a land containing two million people. Of course Israel had no choice but to fight this war and I understand their need for revenge, but I don't think any U.S. army could be so casually brutal and unfocused on military objectives vs general destruction.
I agree completely; well stated. Mercutio said it best: "A plague on both your houses."
Doesn't really matter if there haven't been many express calls for killing Jews. The question posed to the university presidents was whether calls for genocide of the Jewish people constitutes harassment under the universities' (very restrictive) speech and conduct codes. Any thinking person--even those who typically call for robust free-speech protections--can see that calls for one's murder is harassment. And if "Jews" had been replaced with almost any other group, the presidents' response would have been an immediate, "Yes, that is obviously harassment."
Fortunately, no one is stupid enough to fall into that trap.
Why do you think there was a whole hearing about it if there haven't been express calls for killing Jews? Seems a waste of time, no?
"That is, incidentally, one of the problems with censorship, as anyone has learned who tried to contain unruly and inappropriate cheers at high school football games: people will find expressions just ambiguous enough to escape sanction, then try to creep upward from there."
And of course the opposite is true as well. The censors will interpret ambiguous statements (and twist the meaning of non-ambiguous statements) to meet the criteria.
> The problem is that, for the most part, there have been very few explicit calls for killing Jews.
I’m not sure I would call that “the problem”. There have certainly been more explicit calls for killing Jews than I would prefer.
But your point about the difficulties of establishing a just authoritarianism, where speech those in power detest is effectively suppressed while approved speech is unhindered, might be well-taken by those — and they are surprisingly numerous — who wish to be oppressive in a fair, even-handed manner.
I've heard way way way more explicit calls for killing Palestinian civilians (intentionally, not as a collateral damage) than I've heard for killing Jews. In fact, I've heard zero for killing Jews and at least 8 different people around here calling for indiscriminate killing of Palestinians multiple times.
I've seen zero reports of explicit calls for killing Jews as part of the reporting on campus protests.
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This is a common reference by free-speech-hating progressives, but they completely misunderstand what Popper was talking about. The “intolerance” that he said shouldn’t be tolerated was intolerant force. That is, if fascists try to take power and shut down their opponents, that shouldn’t be tolerated; we shouldn’t pretend that it’s just another policy position that people have the right to choose. But he was not suggesting that racism or “hate speech” or the like could or should be banned in a liberal society. What Popper wrote was, “I do not imply that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise.”
I know that repeating one’s points in different comment threads is frowned on here (/sarc), but I’ll re-emphasize that the Republicans seem to have seriously messed up in this situation.
They could have focused on the arbitrariness of college speech codes (written or de facto codes, that is) under which you can applaud the perpetrators of anti-Jewish violence but can’t say marriage is the union of two people of the opposite sex, with sex being defined they way it used to be until five minutes ago.
Instead, the Republicans are casting themselves as the censors and allowing the university authorities to cast themselves as champions of free expression.
And if a university *does* adopt an anti-genocidal-speech policy, soon those same Republicans will be *totally shocked* to find themselves treated as genocidal for (say) opposing affirmative action, supporting the prosecution of shoplifters, or whatever the wrongthink of the moment happens to be.
Incidentally, I wonder what these universities would say to a suggestion that they take their leaders’ recent pro-free-expression testimony in Congress and make it an enforceable part of the student handbook.
You may have, unwittingly it appears, stumbled on the realization many of us have recognized for some time: The current Republicans in Congress, as a group with few exceptions, care nothing about sound policy and principles. They care about winning the news cycle that day, principles be damned.
Yes, this has always been a temptation (much given in to) for politicians, but Republicans have abandoned anything beyond the pretense, and often even the pretense, that they have core principles.
And you are exactly right where this particular episode in abandoning principle to "own the libs" will end up. It'll be less free speech, more hurt feelings are sufficient to suppress.
“Yes, this has always been a temptation (much given in to) for politicians, but Republicans”
“I admit politicians have always been doing that stuff, but the opponents of my side are still worse!”
Neither part of the duopoly in Congress care about sound policy or principles – except maybe 5%, but the 95% give that 5% a bad name.
“I admit politicians have always been doing that stuff, but the opponents of my side are still worse!”
They are. Trump, for instance, is demonstrably, by a wide margin, the least principled presidential candidate or President in the post-WWI history of the United States (and probably before). He has taken over the GOP and attracted emulators like MTG and Gaetz and Santos, just to name three obvious ones. These are bomb throwers for whom any chance to grandstand trumps good policy. You simply don’t see the same on the left. To the extent you have “crazies” on the political left, they tend to be true believers and actually tend to sacrifice political capital to make their out of the mainstream points.
So, yes, I absolutely admit there are always incentives for politicians to pander and demagogue rather than engage in statesmanship, but the leader of the GOP never had any political (or other) principles to begin with, he has had wild success with fully giving in to those incentives, and people who seek power have noticed his success and the fact that GOP voters have a huge appetite for what Trump is selling, so are ripe for charlatans to exploit. Those power-seeking, unprincipled, would-be “leaders”, therefore, gravitate to the GOP and emulate Trump’s complete antipathy towards truth, consistency, and principle.
There simply is not an equivalent of Trump or his emulators on the left of the U.S. political spectrum (or an apparent taste for it among left leaning voters).
(For example, the outside the mainstream star on the left who has come closest to power is Bernie Sanders about whom a lot can be said, but not that he is unprincipled or doesn’t have a long history of promoting those principles despite the prevailing winds.)
Outside of educational and journalistic settings the use of words and phrases like genocide and "Death to [x]!" are nearly always intended to provoke an angry, unreasoning response from others; no one should be surprised when they succeed. Perhaps nearly always the speakers should be ignored, or at least not given amplification, until it's clear that they are offering actual violence to some target group. The problem, of course, is that genocide is not some theoretical concept. It's actually been done during the last 100+ years, and the horror of those events continues to haunt all of us, as it should.
What bothers me most about all this is that nobody, as far as I know, has figured out how to prevent genocides from happening or to stop them when they do. The UN knew what was about to happen in Rwanda, but it happened anyway. The US never seriously considered putting boots on the ground there or what those boots might actually accomplish. IMHO that's something we should discuss openly and freely at this point.
Certainly banning calls for genocide in Rwanda within the American student population would have done the trick.
I agree that both sides (defined for the moment as Republican legislators and Democratic university administrators) are intellectually incoherent and morally contemptible, but I think that overall the Republicans have seized the moral (not to mention political) high ground by positioning themselves as opponents of advocating genocide, while the Democrats are forced to say that the principle of free speech sometimes requires tolerating repugnant speech, and sometimes it doesn't, depending on exactly whom it is repugnant to.
Obviously, America the Beautiful is a call for the genocide of Native Americans and will be banned forthwith.
"From sea to shining sea!" Clear harassment, no question.
It could be stated more strongly. What about the white student who feels threatened or harassed by black students in the front of the bus? By the wearing of an afro or Black Power symbols? By the black driver who reaches into his pocket to get his driver’s license?
An important part of understanding our history means understanding that slaveholders and segregationists perceived themselves as victims and perceived black people as threatening. It’s with us today. A number of recent police violence incidents have come from the fact that some white police officers have been quick to perceive or interpret things black people do as threatening. They feel subjectively unsafe, and they interpret that as meaning the suspect is a threat. It’s a common and all too understandable human emotions, although one with consequences that can be all too tragic.
But this expression of threat was explicit a century ago. Southern Redemptionists didn’t just say that black people if allowed entry into white society would be quick to steal and rape. They didn’t just believe it. They FELT it. They were genuinely scared of it.
Thus we have to be careful about using a self-reported victim’s subjective perceptions of threat as a standard. The same objectivity that requires us not to automatically take the white police officer’s word for whether the shootee was threatening also requires us to impose a measure of skepticism and objectivity on the statements of self-proclaimed victims generally.
Just because the white police officer subjectively feels unsafe doesn’t entitle him to shoot.
It’s a hard lesson. But the same lesson applies here.
It strikes me as entirely unrealistic to expect Universities to adopt a policy of not punishing free speech on campus when it runs contrary to their values (e.g. speech denying identifying trans people as their biological sex, and speech that supports negative beliefs about the group characteristics of minorities).
So, as much as I am a free speech absolutist, that is not on the table. The question at hand is whether to support a status quo in which only those beliefs supported by university administrators are protected, or to push for content-neutral standards in the punishment of speech.
I favor the later primarily because by forcing university administrators to confront their hypocrisy, we may reduce future attempts by them to persecute speech that they disagree with. This seems like a much more likely path of success than demanding genuine protection for the expression of all ideas, something that they find completely unthinkable.