Today in Supreme Court History: October 27, 1787

10/27/1787: First Federalist Paper is published.

Alexander Hamilton

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[Brett Bellmore]

I recommend this edition, which includes the Anti-Federalist papers, as well. You really need to read both, or you’re only looking at one side of a conversation.

The anti-Federalists turned out to be rather more prescient about how things would turn out than the Federalists did. Or maybe more honest?

[Martinned]

Well, they ended up running the country for a couple of decades. That makes it pretty easy to be prescient.

[Dan Schiavetta]

Maxwell v. Bugbee, 250 U.S. 525 (decided October 27, 1896): New Jersey tax on out-of-state inheritor based on ratio of property owned in state to out-of-state does not amount to an impermissible tax on out-of-state property (which would violate art. IV, §2, clause 1)

Simpson v. Union Oil Co. of California, 396 U.S. 13 (decided October 27, 1969): whether past damages are available for illegally requiring fixed sale price of gasoline sold “on consignment” (a violation of the Sherman Act) is to be determined case by case, but in this case, they are

United States v. Morton, 112 U.S. 1 (decided October 27, 1884): time spent as cadet at West Point counted towards “time in service” for the purpose of calculating increase in pay

[F.D. Wolf]

I believe you have the wrong year on Maxwell v. Bugbee, which was decided in 1919. It was actually two consolidated cases concerning one estate worth about $4 million and another worth about $54 million. (For reference, $1 million in 1919 would be the equivalent of about $18 million today). It was a 5-4 decision, with Justice Day writing the majority opinion, and Justice Holmes writing the dissent.

[Dan Schiavetta]

Thanks!

Will correct on my web site.

[F.D. Wolf]

October 27 was not a good day for religious freedom in America.

On this day in 1659, Marmaduke Stephenson and William Robinson were hanged in Massachusetts Bay Colony for the crime of being members of the Society of Friends (the Quakers). In 1658, the Massachusetts legislature had enacted a law that decreed anyone convicted of being a Quaker would be banished from the colony upon pain of death should he return. Two more Quakers, Mary Dyer and William Leddra, were hanged in 1660 and 1661, respectively. In Quaker tradition, these four are known as "the Boston martyrs". In September 1661, King Charles II issued a mandamus to the colony, demanding the cessation of all further persecution if Quakers and a release of all those under sentence.

On October 27, 1838, Missouri Governor Lilburn Boggs issued Executive Order 44, known as the Mormon Extermination Order, which called for Mormons to be "exterminated or driven from the state". In 1976, Gov. Christopher "Kit" Bond would issue an apology and officially rescind the order.

Today, October 27 is recognized as International Religious Freedom Day.

[Martinned]

Ironically, as best as I can tell no one outside of the US has ever heard of International Religious Freedom Day. So it isn't very international. For people keeping track, technically today is World Day for Audiovisual Heritage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Day_for_Audiovisual_Heritage

[Mr. Bumble]

It's also:
Nevada Day, Global Champagne Day, National American Beer Day, National Parmigiano Reggiano Day, National Black Cat Day…

[SRG2]

Time was American Beer day should have been a day of mourning. When I first travelled to the US in 1980, there was no domestic beer worth drinking, Now, there is so much good American beer, there is almost no reason to drink any other when one is at home.

[Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland]

Local beer benefits from several advantages, and most imported beers (including nearly all popular imports) are very poor choices in America, but

Guinness Draught Stout (nitrogenated widget can)

Wittekerke

Lindemans Framboise

La Fin du Monde

Fou'Foune

[F.D. Wolf]

A brief search for "International Religious Freedom Day" on Twitter “Top Tweets” shows Tweets from many non-U.S. sources, including a Member of the European Parliament, a former UK High Commissioner to Sri Lanka, and the Candian government.

[Michael P]

To be fair, what he said was probably accurate, he just isn't very good at discerning facts.

[Magister]

It appears to have been created by the United States as part of advancing religious freedom in other countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Religious_Freedom_Act_of_1998
https://www.state.gov/international-religious-freedom-day-25th-anniversary-of-irfa/

One should probably parse it as (International Religious Freedom) Day rather than International (Religious Freedom Day).

There are worse American creations that have been exported to the rest of the world.

[zvwmzvwmzvwm]

Another Bogus Headline Day.
Nothing happened in the Supreme Court today in 1787.

[apedad]

O/T

And in other good news, Virginia just MELTED the Robert E. Lee statue that was in Charlottesville.

"The 'Unite the Right' rally took place in Charlottesville in August 2017 and participants included far-right White supremacist sympathizers upset over the proposed removal of Lee's statue, as well as many counter-protesters. On Aug. 12, James Fields Jr. deliberately rammed his car into a group of counter-protesters, killing Heather Heyer and injuring dozens."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/robert-e-lee-statue-melted-secret-symbolic-ceremony-remade-into-inclusive-public-art

UtR - losers then and losers now.

[apedad]

At least James seems to be doing OK in prison (for the rest of his life; he's only 26).

White supremacist serving life sentence fined for prison misconduct

https://www.vpm.org/news/2023-03-01/james-alex-fields-jr-fined-unite-the-right-charlottesville

[Mr. Bumble]

As usual, celebrating destruction.

[apedad]

So . . . they should have left up the statues of Stalin and Hussein?

[Mr. Bumble]

Comparing Stalin and Hussein to Lee shows just how fucked up your thinking is.

[apedad]

They're all losers so they have that in common.

[Mr. Bumble]

...as are you!

[Ak Mike]

Hard to see Stalin as a loser. He had more power as an individual than anyone else in modern history, which he retained until the day of his death; he won the biggest war in history. He was a bad person, but not a loser.

[David Nieporent]

Comparing Stalin and Hussein to Lee shows just how fucked up your thinking is.

They're all among the most evil people in history. What's the problem with the comparison?

[Michael P]

You have an awfully strange perspective on what it takes to qualify as "among the most evil people in history". Vlad the Impaler, Pol Pot, Hitler, Mengele? Not worth mentioning. A guy notable for skill in military tactics and helping national reintegration after the Civil War? Most evil!

[Magister]

I'm more than willing to melt statues of any of those evil people, if the statues were created to honor them. Creepy as wax museums are, I'm OK with Madame Tussaud's having evil historical figures, although none of the ones named seem to be in the Wikipedia list.

[SRG2]

As usual, defending traitors.

[Nige]

No, supporting the dropping of tons of munitions onto civilians is celebrating destruction. This is just civic redecoration.

[Brett Bellmore]

Celebrating destruction of works of art. You're not as much different from the Taliban as you'd like to think.

[Nige]

Celebrating the destruction of racist iconography. If this statue is your idea of an ancient religious work of art, well what does that say about you, other than you like racists.

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Do you really think the Taliban had different rationales than you?

[Nige]

I think it's hilarious that you think melting racist statues is like the Taliban destroying ancient artworks - suggesting you venerate shitty statues honouring a bunch of racist slave-owners erected to show the civil rights movement that black people would always be second class citizens.

[Mr. Bumble]

How is a soldier mounted on a horse "racist iconography

[Nige]

I suggest you start by reasearching 'what is iconography.'

[Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland]

You are a disaffected, delusional, bigoted, autistic, backwater loser, Brett Bellmore. A birther, a conspiracy theorist, and an antisocial stain on society.

Thank you for choosing to be a conservative. Better people wouldn't want a human stain like you on their side.