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A Rare Case Where the Court's New Threats Case (Counterman) May Make a Difference
In this year's Counterman v. Colorado, the Supreme Court held that "true threats" of illegal conduct are constitutionally unprotected but only if the speaker was reckless, i.e., "consciously disregarded a substantial risk that his communications would be viewed as threatening violence." Before that, many states had allowed such threats to be punished on just a showing that the speaker was negligent, i.e., "should [have been] aware of a substantial risk … that others will understand his words as threats."
In practice, it's hard to find cases where such a standard would likely change the outcome; but Thursday's Washington Court of Appeals decision in State v. Beal (written by Judge Robert Lawrence-Berrey, joined by Chief Judge George Fearing and Judge Rebecca Pennell), might be one such case. An excerpt:
Sara Beal lived with her 15-year-old daughter, K.F., in a multilevel townhome in Spokane. On the morning of September 13, 2021, K.F. awoke before her mother. She went into her mother's room a couple of times to check to see if her mother was awake and to ask when she would be getting up.
Later that morning, Ms. Beal entered K.F.'s room and asked why she was "poking" her while she was asleep. During this exchange, Ms. Beal jabbed K.F. three times on her leg with what appeared to be a screwdriver or nail. K.F. pushed her mother away, and Ms. Beal returned to her room.
One hour later, Ms. Beal returned to her daughter's room and began to argue and physically fight with her. They argued about Ms. Beal thinking people were after her and that a relative was stalking her. Ms. Beal then grabbed K.F. by her hair and hit her. Ms. Beal also pushed K.F. onto her bed and grabbed her neck with both hands. K.F. kicked Ms. Beal off her and pushed her out of the room.
K.F. ran downstairs, sat on the front porch and called 911 and then her grandmother. After 20 minutes, K.F. went back inside and returned to her room. During this time, K.F. called 911 a second time to tell the operator that she and her mother had worked it out and were not arguing anymore. Thirty minutes later, Ms. Beal entered K.F.'s room and demanded her cell phone. Ms. Beal removed the SIM card from K.F.'s phone, then gave the phone back to her. K.F. had another SIM card, which she put into her phone.
K.F. went back downstairs, and her mother later followed. They began fighting again. Ms. Beal ripped a wall-mounted air conditioning unit out of the wall, believing there were cameras inside it and said "it's all a set up" and accused K.F. of helping with "it." During this exchange, Ms. Beal threatened to bash K.F.'s head in and threatened to kill her. K.F. thought her mother was going to harm her and was trying to throw the air conditioner (AC) at her head. K.F. thought her mother threw something at her. Ms. Beal continued to chase K.F. around a table in their living room before the police called K.F.'s phone back….
The jury found Ms. Beal guilty of fourth degree assault and gross misdemeanor harassment [as to the threat] ….
The court concluded that there was sufficient evidence to support the conviction under the pre-Counterman negligence standard, which was in effect at the time of trial:
Ms. Beal had assaulted her daughter over a period of time and, while in the process of ripping the air conditioner from the wall, told her daughter that she was going to bash her head in and kill her. Given this context and given our standard of review, a trier of fact could reasonably find that a reasonable speaker would interpret the threat as a serious expression of an intent to inflict bodily harm on K.F….
But the court concluded that Counterman should be applied retroactively, and that the conviction for the threat should be reversed and remanded for a new trial:
The record shows that Ms. Beal was not lucid and was upset her daughter was recording her. One does not kill a person, much less a daughter, for secretly recording them…. A rational trier of fact could find that Ms. Beal's statements were not literal and that she was subjectively unaware of their threatening nature….
UPDATE: Just to be clear, on retrial the jury also could conclude that Beal did indeed act recklessly (and therefore should be convicted), in the sense of "consciously disregard[ing] a substantial risk that [her] communications would be viewed as threatening violence." The appellate court simply concludes that either conclusion would be possible, and thus leaves it to the jury to decide on retrial.
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"One does not kill a person, much less a daughter, for secretly recording them…"
Ummm, it certainly sounds like this mother might. She did a lot of violent things a person, much less a mother, ordinarily wouldn't do.
But, if the standard is retroactive, a jury should be presented the appropriate legal question.
It's a fine line between recognizing some people are mentally ill, and dealing with them and protecting the public from them as mentally ill, and just allowing some people to escape consequences because person X is just being person X and they think what they're doing is right/justified/etc..
This woman sounds genuinely mentally ill, however. She likely needs treatment (in a secure facility) rather than imprisonment.
Mostly, though, I feel horrible for K.F. I hope she gets out of this situation and has a support network to help her.
Someone in the midst of a full blown psychotic episode, or just a paranoid schizophrenic, which this sounds like it was one of those choices, is easily capable of killing a family member. Moreover, how the jury is supposed to determine her state of mind inside a psychotic episode when she presumably is not in the middle of one when on the witness stand is certainly going to be interesting.
Or a Urinary Tract Infection (UTI). In older women a UTI can cause Dementia that goes away when the infection goes away. After her hip replacement I went through Hell with my Mother because of this.
You got a UTI from your Mother? Don't Ask Don't Tell!
This is inapt. Under Washington law, the threat of *killing* someone would be felony harassment, not misdemeanor harassment, and she was convicted of the misdemeanor. The misdemeanor version includes threats "To cause bodily injury immediately or in the future to the person threatened" or "To cause physical damage to the property of a person other than the actor" or " To subject the person threatened... to physical confinement or restraint".
She had, that very day, "returned to her daughter's room and began to argue and physically fight with her", "grabbed K.F. by her hair and hit her" and "pushed K.F. onto her bed and grabbed her neck with both hands." Oh, and taking the SIM card from her phone to try to stop her from calling for help. I don't buy that a jury could have determined she didn't know there was a substantial risk of her words being construed as a threat of *some* sort, in this context.
I don't agree.
If X punch's Y, that doesn't mean X intended to threaten Y. X may, in fact, just intended to punch Y and nothing more. Of course, intentionally punching someone is itself a crime.
Now, of course, some of us are going to think. If I punch someone, they will anticipate being hit again. But then, maybe not. Some people don't think about that at all, hence they wouldn't have "consciously" ignored a substantial risk. Also, if there is a pattern of abuse that involves just one punch, as in, that is the designated punishment for whatever.
Here, the person is suffering from a mental illness. It is not clear what they are conscious enough or not. That doesn't mean she can't be shown to be guilty. Based on circumstantial evidence, we might infer that she was conscious that she was threatening.
The court made the right decision here. The jury should have been instructed.
People are entitled to trials where the jury is considering the correct question. I would give new trials in more cases than where they're currently given.
But it does rather boggle the mind that any court would say "wait, maybe threatening to bash your daughter's head in, to her face, while ripping the AC out of the wall, after already hitting her and trying to strangle her that day, and after already taking the SIM card from her phone because she had dialed 911 after your previous actions, is constitutionally protected speech".
If this is protected then we've got the standard wrong. We have something which is *objectively* a threat, which a reasonable person would know was a threat (according to the previous jury's verdict), and which the victim construes as a threat. I don't think the provision in the 14th Amendment which prevents states from depriving people of liberty without due process of law, prevents states from prohibiting this conduct.
"She likely needs treatment (in a secure facility) rather than imprisonment. "
Sure, she'll get a 5150 for a week maybe gets extended for two. But this secure facility option is typically a dream.
The daughter needs protection from her mother.
The daughter can get a restraining order. Of course, that is a complicated decision, because the daughter may or may not want the mother in her life.
It is the daughter's decision, in the end.
Yeah, that line is mind-boggling. Maybe a normal person doesn't, but would SHE, or was it reasonable for her daughter to believe she would?
That support sounds unlikely. If KF had that support the mother would likely also be getting the needed help.
Crazy facts make for crazy decisions from crazy courts, later to be sanctified by precedent as crazy law.
All of this kind of rumination seems properly to belong to the pre-internet era, before stochastic terrorism using internet publishing became a thing.
There is nothing crazy about this decision, no matter how many times you use the word crazy.
Nor of course does it have anything to do with Lathrop's Internet obsession.
“One does not kill a person, much less a daughter, for secretly recording them”
But killing somebody for looking at you “funny” seems to be a valid reason. At least in SE DC.
Sad. DC used to be a safe city as long as you stayed off the Green Line.
But between the drugs and the mental illnesses, looking at someone funny can be quite fatal. I once found myself agreeing that "Mohamed was fucking Montana" -- without knowing if the individual was referring to the State or Molly Cyrus.
I once ended the tea party with his nonexistent friends by explaining that they had to go home because of the nonexistent thunderstorm that was approaching. (There *was* one tiny cloud in the sky...)
There are a lot of scary people out there....
I think a criminal case is the least of it, the Mother seems to be exhibiting serious signs of mental illness and the daughter doesn't seem safe in the home.
1: Is a SIM card even needed to make a 911 call? I don’t think so.
2: 20 minutes after the first 911 call without any physical response? Either they got a LOT of 911 calls from this girl or they had a very poor domestic violence protocol, likely both.
(In most places, if you dial 911, let it ring twice and then hang up -- and don't answer when they call back, they'll send two police officers. (It has to ring twice for the caller ID to lock in, or something, or so I'm told.))
3: Where the hell was/is child protective?
4: Wouldn’t there be an inherent mental illness defense here?
I believe you don't need a SIM card to call 911. People used to collect old phones to give to battered women for the purpose of calling 911.
A hang up 911 call from a cell phone may not get an in person response. The cell phone reports a GPS location or maybe a tower triangulation.
Being crazy in the colloquial sense is not the same as being mentally ill so as to avoid criminal liability. Having a short fuse is also not mental illness.
People used to collect old phones to give to battered women for the purpose of calling 911.
A hang up 911 call from a cell phone may not get an in person response. The cell phone reports a GPS location or maybe a tower triangulation.
I used to work for a county organization in charge of the only shelter and we did collect many old phones for that purpose. The only problem is if they didn't also donate the charger we couldn't give out the phones. You could always call 911 on an expired phone, but they couldn't call you back (at least on the ones from the early 90's).
My phone only reports tower pings on a 911 hang up, unless the proper address is entered into the phones information in its own separate section in the memory.
I should have said LANDLINE 911 call — the theory is a combination of (a) the violent party either grabbed the phone or ripped the cord out of the wall and (b) the victim is too scared to speak.
As to cell phones, FCC(?) regs state that any 911 call that reaches any tower must be routed to 911 unless it already is — somehow the towers know this, and it’s regardless of whose tower it is and who the service is with, if any. Problem is that phones without service don’t have phone numbers so 911 can’t call back if call dropped.
My question is if the phone can make a 911 call without a SIM card, I *think* it can but don't know.
Other caveat — it has to be a GEN 4 or 5 phone — most of the Gen 3 towers have been discontinued and the 1st & 2nd generation towers are long gone. But a $20 burner phone is nice to have in the glove box just in case.
"Being crazy in the colloquial sense is not the same as being mentally ill so as to avoid criminal liability."
The standard for being mentally ill so as to avoid criminal liability is EXTREMELY HIGH. Informally.
However, mental illness certainly can create a different state of mind. Such that if A, the non-mentally ill, person did X, we would infer they had Z intent or Z knowledge or Z conscious with high probability, but if B is mentally ill, maybe they didn't have the same intent.
This is a completely different defense than saying they aren't responsible because of their mental illness. Because the law might say, anyone who doesn't form the required intent is innocent of the particular crime. If it so happens to be that someone without a mental illness did the act without the intent, they too would be innocent.
But the thing about intent is that it ALWAYS must be proven by circumstantial evidence. (I think even a confession of intent is circumstantial evidence... although it can be VERY persuasive when someone seems to explain to you what they did and why they did it. But it is always possible that someone is lying to you about why they did something, or they are deceiving themselves, or their memory is unclear.)
Well, the implications of actions in terms of what we can infer about what a person intends may be different from person A to person B based on their pattern and practice. That is, a particular set of actions may signify a different intent by A than it would if the same actions were undertaken by B. Most of the time, this doesn't come up, because people are kind of similar. But certainly, one reason for a different pattern and practice to arise is due to a mental illness. But it could also be based on culture or whatever.
So, this isn't using mental illness as a defense, but instead the defense is that the requisite mental state didn't exist and mental illness just so happens to be relevant to that inquiry.
A confession of intent is not circumstantial. It's direct evidence. Yes, it might be wrong (like any evidence might be wrong) but it's still not circumstantial.
It is circumstantial, because what matters is the intent someone formed in their brain, not what someone says about the intent formed in their brain. An inference must be made that the statement is correct or incorrect. The confession can be combined with other circumstantial evidence to see if it is corroborated.
Imagine a confession that someone was forced to give to the police by the real perpetrator of a crime. That confession is not direct evidence of the state of mind of the person giving the confession.
The color green is direct evidence. I can perceive it with my eyes directly. I do not need to make any inferences based on other evidence that the grass is green. I do need to make the assumption that my eyes are not malfunctioning, but otherwise the fact of the greenness of grass is directly observable.
I guess it's time to introduce you to the concept of "qualia", of which colors are one of the primary examples. What you think is "green" may not be so to a different person. Colorblindess, for one example, or tetrachromacy and aphakia for rarer cases.
Your argument that a person's testimony about their own thoughts is just circumstantial evidence completely denies the entire concept of direct evidence - everything is just the testimony about the thoughts someone has about something, even if that something is just perceiving a spectrometer display for values in the 500nm to 550nm range.
"In most places, if you dial 911, let it ring twice and then hang up — and don’t answer when they call back, they’ll send two police officers."
I once hit the wrong speed dial button, called 911 by mistake and hung up immediately.
I got no call back and only one officer.
Doesn't the California harassment statute seem counter to Counterman?
CODE OF CIVIL PROCEDURE - CCP
PART 2. OF CIVIL ACTIONS [307 - 1062.20] ( Part 2 enacted 1872. )
TITLE 7. OTHER PROVISIONAL REMEDIES IN CIVIL ACTIONS [501 - 574] ( Heading of Title 7 added by Stats. 1974, Ch. 1516. )
CHAPTER 3. Injunction [525 - 534] ( Chapter 3 enacted 1872. )
527.6.
(a) (1) A person who has suffered harassment as defined in subdivision (b) may seek a temporary restraining order and an order after hearing prohibiting harassment as provided in this section.
(2) A minor, under 12 years of age, accompanied by a duly appointed and acting guardian ad litem, shall be permitted to appear in court without counsel for the limited purpose of requesting or opposing a request for a temporary restraining order or order after hearing, or both, under this section as provided in Section 374.
(b) For purposes of this section, the following terms have the following meanings:
(1) “Course of conduct” is a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts over a period of time, however short, evidencing a continuity of purpose, including following or stalking an individual, making harassing telephone calls to an individual, or sending harassing correspondence to an individual by any means, including, but not limited to, the use of public or private mails, interoffice mail, facsimile, or email. Constitutionally protected activity is not included within the meaning of “course of conduct.”
(2) “Credible threat of violence” is a knowing and willful statement or course of conduct that would place a reasonable person in fear for the person’s safety or the safety of the person’s immediate family, and that serves no legitimate purpose.
(3) “Harassment” is unlawful violence, a credible threat of violence, or a knowing and willful course of conduct directed at a specific person that seriously alarms, annoys, or harasses the person, and that serves no legitimate purpose. The course of conduct must be that which would cause a reasonable person to suffer substantial emotional distress, and must actually cause substantial emotional distress to the petitioner.
Did Mom try an insanity defense?
Insanity defenses are very rarely successful.
It’s wierd that the court is treating the case as if the parties were conplete strangers.
Does a parent commit a crime every time they say “if you do that I’m going to kill you!”?
It appears that under the negligence standard they would. And even under the heightened standard, the law appears not to treat parents’ words to their child any differently from the words of complete strangers. Remarkable.
I'd think the context of the phrase - coming after the parent had repeatedly hit the child, pulled her hair, choked her, and torn an AC unit off the wall - overrides any idea that this was just an annoyed parent using hyperbolic language.
At least, most parents don't seem to tear AC units off the walls and threaten to kill their children with them - the heating/cooling industry would be much more profitable if they did.
Wow - applying a rational law to the actions of a person who’s clearly not rational.
Reagan did a lot of good things but one thing he didn’t do well was abandoning institutional mental health. All we’ve done over the last 40 years is push mentally ill people into the criminal justice system and that’s been an unmitigated disaster.
Ronald Reagan wasn't remotely a prime mover in that movement. Deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill really started in the 1950s, with major contributions from JFK. It was largely sealed by popular reaction to David Rosenhan's "pseudopatient" experiment.
JFK signed the Community Mental Health Act, which sought to replace institutions with community-based centers, but it was never properly funded. The novel One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest may have influenced public opinion at that time. Reagan removed the funding Carter had signed in 1980, and as had happened when Reagan was governor of California, mentally ill people were swept into the criminal justice system.