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Alleged "Psychic Intuition" Isn't Enough to Make a Federal Claim "Plausible" Enough to Withstand Dismissal
An allegedly psychic "Internet sleuth" alleged a professor was involved in the University of Idaho student murders; the professor sued; then the "sleuth" countersued.
From yesterday's decision in Scofield v. Guillard, written by Chief Magistrate Judge Raymond E. Patricco (D. Idaho); see here for more on the plaintiff's libel lawsuit (this decision is about the defendant's counterclaims):
This case arises out of the tragic murder of four University of Idaho students in November 2022. Plaintiff Rebecca Scofield is a professor at the University of Idaho. She alleges that she never met the students and was not involved with their murders in any way. Notwithstanding, Plaintiff alleges Defendant Ashley Guillard posted over 100 sensational TikTok videos falsely claiming that she had an inappropriate romantic affair with one of the victims and then ordered the murders to prevent the affair from coming to light. In turn, Plaintiff initiated this action on December 21, 2022 (Dkt. 1), asserting two defamation claims against Defendant. One is premised upon false statements regarding Plaintiff's involvement with the murders themselves. The other premised upon false statements regarding Plaintiff's romantic relationship with one of the murdered students….
Within her Answer and Counterclaims, [the self-represented] Defendant denies that she defamed Plaintiff because the accusations made against Plaintiff in Defendant's TikTok videos are "substantially true." Defendant maintains that she "used her spiritual brain, intuition, spiritual practice, and investigative skills to uncover the truth regarding the murder of the four University of Idaho students; and published her findings on her TikTok social media platform." Relevant here, Defendant also affirmatively asserts 11 counterclaims against both Plaintiff and her legal counsel.
Defendant's counterclaims rely on two premises: (i) Plaintiff "initiated, planned, and executed the murders" of the four University of Idaho students to cover up an affair she had with one of the victims; and (ii) Plaintiff sought to "evade suspicion" for these murders by conspiring with her counsel to file a "frivolous" Complaint with "falsified factual allegations" that (a) supported the defamation claims against Defendant, and (b) deprived Defendant of her constitutional rights. Defendant further asserts that the conspiracy between Plaintiff and her counsel extended beyond the mere filing of Plaintiff's Complaint. It also included Plaintiff's counsel's defamatory statements to the media about Plaintiff's underlying lawsuit against Defendant….
Plaintiff (Scofield) moved to dismiss the counterclaims, and the court agreed:
To survive a motion to dismiss, a complaint must contain sufficient facts, accepted as true, that "state a claim to relief that is plausible on its face." A claim is facially plausible when a plaintiff pleads sufficient facts to allow the court to reasonably infer that the defendant is liable for the misconduct alleged. The plausibility standard is not akin to a "probability requirement," but it requires more than a sheer possibility that the defendant acted unlawfully. Where a complaint pleads facts that are "merely consistent with" the defendant's liability, it "stops short of the line between possibility and plausibility of 'entitlement to relief.'" … Whether a complaint states a plausible claim for relief is a "context-specific task that requires the reviewing court to draw on its judicial experience and common sense."
Courts generally construe pro se party filings liberally. Even so, a court may dismiss as frivolous, claims that are "clearly baseless"—"a category encompassing allegations that are fanciful, fantastic, and delusional." …
Defendant's Counterclaims Against Plaintiff Are Factually Implausible
Defendant responds to Plaintiff's defamation claims against her by going on the offensive, alleging that those claims (as well as statements made by Plaintiff's counsel to the media about those claims) are themselves defamatory and purposely brought by Plaintiff and her counsel to systematically deprive Defendant of her constitutional rights to free speech and due process…. Together, these counterclaims presume—and depend upon—an alternate version of events surrounding the murder of the four University of Idaho students: namely, that Plaintiff orchestrated the murders, and then colluded with her counsel to bring this action against Defendant to silence her clairvoyant insight into the true extent of Plaintiff's involvement. The problem with this theory, however, is that there is no objective basis to believe that Plaintiff did the things that Defendant publicly and repeatedly claims she did.
Defendant insists that her "intuitive abilities," "spiritual acuity," and "investigative skills" into the murders led her to Plaintiff. Specifically, she claims that, during her "spiritual research," she was "intuitively led to the University of Idaho History Department" and "spiritually inquired into each person listed on the History Department's webpage seeking their role in the murder[s]." As Defendant describes it, the insight into Plaintiff in particular "revealed that she was in a relationship with [one of the victims] that broke up and that she initiated the murders, planned the murders, and hired help to carry the plan out." The results of Defendant's "spiritual investigation" represent the only support for Defendant's belief that Plaintiff masterminded the murders and, correspondingly, the only justification for Defendant's counterclaims against her.
Significantly, only Defendant has these opinions about Plaintiff; the Court is unaware of similar claims from any other sources or the existence of any independent evidence remotely suggesting the same. When pressed for corroboration during oral argument, Defendant merely responded that she believed her allegations about Plaintiff were true and that, with discovery, she can find evidence that bears this out. Defendant also claimed that Plaintiff, as a professor at the University of Idaho, possibly knew the deceased students and was involved in their murders. Without more, these explanations do not support a plausible claim for relief under Twombly and Iqbal [the two relevant Supreme Court standards]..
To begin, Defendant cannot use discovery as a fishing expedition to find facts that might validate her counterclaims. This "ready, fire, aim" approach is not permitted under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Moreover, on a motion to dismiss, courts generally may not consider materials, including discovery, other than a complaint's allegations and documents made part of that complaint. In short, the pleading requirement does not provide a key to "unlock the doors of discovery for a plaintiff armed with nothing more than conclusions"; again, a complaint must be plausible on its face.
More to the point, Defendant does not present to the Court—in either her Answer and Counterclaims or her response to Plaintiff's Motion to Dismiss—a factual account that would allow the Court to infer the existence of a plausible claim against Plaintiff. Instead, based solely on her claimed ability to psychically divine the truth, Defendant makes extraordinary allegations about how Plaintiff orchestrated the murder of four people to cover up a secret, romantic relationship with one of the victims. These claims are not only conclusory and unverifiable, but arguably so outrageous as to be clearly baseless and, thus, implausible. Because the predicate components to Defendant's counterclaims against Plaintiff lack any basis in fact, those counterclaims should not proceed.
Additionally, Defendant attributes the conduct of Plaintiff's counsel to Plaintiff based upon a perceived conspiracy between them. But she offers no basis for concerted action. She simply assumes its existence throughout her Answer and Counterclaims when alleging that, together, Plaintiff and her counsel conspired to harm her. Reflexively lumping Plaintiff and her counsel together, without distinguishing their conduct in any way, fails to satisfy Rule 8. This is particularly problematic when, under Idaho law, claims of conspiracy must be pled with specificity….
Each of Defendant's Counterclaims Against Plaintiff Is Also Legally Deficient
[Among other things,] Idaho's judicial privilege forecloses Defendant's Second Counterclaim. The judicial privilege immunizes a party from civil liability for statements made in the course of judicial proceedings…. "Idaho has long recognized that defamatory statements made in the course of a judicial proceeding are absolutely privileged, even if made with malicious intent or knowledge of their falsity. The purpose of the judicial privilege is to keep the paths leading to the ascertainment of truth as free and unobstructed as possible." …
{The Court takes no position here as to whether Plaintiff's counsel's statements to the media after Plaintiff initiated this action are similarly privileged. Regardless, again, Plaintiff did not make these statements and there is no basis to hold Plaintiff responsible for statements made by her counsel.}
[The court also rejected defendant's conspiracy against civil rights (42 U.S.C. § 1985) claim for various reasons, including: -EV]
[T]he second part of § 1985(2) "requires an allegation of a class-based, invidiously discriminatory animus" behind the conspirators' actions.
Defendant fails to allege any facts supporting the conclusion that Plaintiff's Complaint was motivated by invidiously discriminatory class-based animus. Indeed, there is no allegation of such motivation at all. {Though not a part of Defendant's allegations against Plaintiff, Defendant's briefing on the subject attempts to equate her spirituality with a protected religious class. Opp. to MTD at 9 (Dkt. 35) ("[Plaintiff] vehemently asked the Court to decide that spiritual practices as in tarot readings, and spiritual connections as in mediumship and psychic intuition, are implausible. Ergo seeking that the Court discriminate against [Defendant] based on her spiritual practices."). But this misstates Plaintiff's claims against Defendant. Plaintiff's Complaint cannot be read as an attack on Defendant's spirituality, but on Defendant's false claim that Plaintiff murdered four people. Defendant's spirituality is immaterial to this claim. In any event, while it is possible that Defendant's psychic abilities relate to an unknown religious practice for the purposes of the second part of § 1985(2), it is also possible that it relates to a purely secular pursuit untethered to a protected class (e.g., a type of philosophy). Thus, it can be argued that Defendant may not rely on such allegations to plausibly show that her spirituality ipso facto amounts to protected religious practices vis à vis her § 1985(a) claim.}
Plaintiff is represented by Cory Michael Carone, Elijah Martin Watkins, and Wendy Olson (Stoel Rives LLP).
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"Courts generally construe pro se party filings liberally."
Pro se? You don't say!
Someone should inform Prof. Volokh that his old and dear friend, John Eastman, has been in the news lately.
And in disciplinary proceedings.
And in prominent courtrooms.
If Prof. Volokh knew about the issues involving John Eastman, he surely would address them rather than write about . . . . this.
(Then, someone could tell him about several important legal issues involving freedom of speech and a former president of the United States. One would think Prof. Volokh would be eager to write about those issues, if only he knew about them.)
Carry on, clingers.
I read today that a Trump-appointee, U.S. District Judge Brantley Starr of Texas, ordered three senior Southwest Airlines lawyers to take eight hours of “religious-liberty training” from the far-right Christian group Alliance Defending Freedom. The Southern Poverty Law Center has designated ADF as an extremist hate group. On reading this, I thought wouldn't this be perfect for a Volokh post?
Maybe. But maybe not.
The SPLC has identified 74.7% of the country as extremist. It’s a designation that has been rendered meaningless. That’s their grift.
They themselves are more extremist than a lot of the groups they name.
Only 74.7%?!?
Morris Dees has gone off the deep end and a lot of the left is disowning him.
... the far-right Christian group Alliance Defending Freedom. The Southern Poverty Law Center has designated ADF as an extremist hate group...
This is as credible as Psychic barbie. Thanks Russian bot
KGBgrb.The SPLC is an "extremist hate group" based on their own definition of that term. I've never heard of the Alliance Defending Freedom but if you're going to convince anyone that they are a biased group (much less a "far-right Christian group"), you're going to have to find a better source than the SPLC.
I've heard of the ADF -- they are pretty sane so you gotta ask what the lawyers DID as this seems like an alternative to yanking bar cards. "Religious liberty training" strikes me as what they ought to have learned in law school.
Rather than ruining someone's life, this is the Christian thing to do if someone is merely ignorant.
“ On reading this, I thought wouldn’t this be perfect for a Volokh post?”
Why? The SPLC is entitled to their opinion just like anybody else.
And to lose libel suits as well -- and they've lost a few...
So much for religious freedom...
Look at Martin, fitting a situation into his pre-conceived political view. There is no religion involved in this at all. “Spiritual” does not equal “religious”. Mediums deal in the spiritual world (at least they claim to do so) and there’s no religion involved there at all.
Squeeze it and make it fit! Even if you have to defend a malicious loony! Make this about your political opponents or die trying!!
"You must let me go because Jesus told me to do it."
That sounds like a similar claim. Both have religious mystical items.
“Jesus told me to rob the bank and use the money to feed the homeless.”
I’m sure that’d work well as a defense….
Even better: "Jesus told me to shoot [name a politician]."
That's (a) not actually uncommon and (b) not a defense.
“You must let me go because Jesus told me to do it.”
Could you give an example of this happening, and the results?
I can give you thousands of examples. Not in criminal cases, of course.
"I don't want to shoot a gay wedding because I think gay women are yucky."
vs...
"I don't want to shoot a gay wedding because Jesus tells me not to do it."
(I'm assuming that you agree with me that there is little or no meaningful difference between "Jesus tells me to do X" and 'The Bible tells me to do X."
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination."
Leviticus 18:22
That's not really open to interpretation
"Not in criminal cases, of course."
I thought that the reference to "let me go" suggested some kind of criminal case, but to be fair, the parameters of this particular debate seem a bit vague.
It would be fair enough to criticise my comment because the situation in the OP does not resemble any religious claim that actually tends to be successful. But you're going to have to do a bit more work to show that believing in psychic powers isn't a religious belief in the sense of the first amendment and/or relevant legislation.
I mean, there’s no religion associated with psychic powers. It’s not a part of the doctrine of anything anywhere. And the sleuth in this case isn’t even claiming that it is.
I guess it might have been more interesting if she had claimed that God or Allah or Ra had revealed the history prof’s guilt to her. Probably not, but maybe. But she didn’t.
RFRA claims (and the first amendment) aren't limited to organised religions, and the courts have never allowed anyone to rebut an RFRA claim by providing evidence about what different organised religions do or do not believe.
I know. But “my communication with my private spirits giving me messages that have nothing to do with any deity”. isn’t nearly close enough.
Why do you assert her supernatural claims have nothing to do with any deity?
Some religious kooks, as I understand it, believe that spelling out their god's name is a sin.
People have been canonized for bullshit very similar, if not identical, to the 'I hear voices from the spiritual realm' nonsense described at page 13 of this kook's answer and counterclaim.
This dope's nonsense-based claims are indistinguishable from those of someone who seeks special privilege deriving from religion (superstition).
Since when is a religion only a religion if it involves a "deity"?
Look, I agree with you when you think that the RFRA is overused sometimes. Or perhaps it’s better phrased to say that it’s claimed insincerely.
But this case ain’t it.
It’s very clearly not a religious claim. Religious beliefs are beliefs about a supreme Being. The counterclaimant’s beliefs are beliefs about herself. Beliefs about oneself are obviously not beliefs about a Supreme Being.
Would a person who claimed to have a law degree from Harvard be entitled to so claim on grounds that that this a religious belief? Obviously not. Whether one believes one has psychic powers or not no more implicates the Religion Clauses than whether one believes one has a law degree or not. It’s a belief about facts in the world, not a belief about religion.
Religious beliefs are beliefs about a supreme Being.
Really? Says who?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/religion
If you don't think this defendant sounds like and is a religious kook . . . you might be viewing reality through partisan or superstitious blinders.
From 2017:
"Are Democrats the Party of Science? Not Really.
"Until liberals truly embrace the spirit of scientific inquiry, they'll never gain the upper hand in the policy debates of the Trump era."
https://newrepublic.com/article/139700/democrats-party-science-not-really
Yes, I know - "even the liberal New Republic." But the New Republic is straight-up progressive nowadays, not neoliberal or whatever it used to be when the slogan was coined.
Weak bothsidesism. The first example in that article is homeopathy, which was apparently endorsed by the Green Party but not the Democrats. It falls back to unscientific things that some liberals believe, sometimes in smaller numbers than Republicans, and concedes the basis for some concerns (about GMOs and nuclear energy). The argument, from 2017, is that Democrats, despite being better than Republicans overall, are squandering an opportunity in the the post-truth era of Donald Trump, to be ready when his failed solutions bring him down.
And what's happened on the science front since 2017? Republican aligned anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists.
From 2018:
"Modern Wicca and other New Age traditions in the ’50s, ’60s, and ’70s were tied to second-wave feminism. Witchcraft and ritual have become more prominently associated with progressive political causes in recent years with the rise of the contemporary #magicresistance. Last year, for example, a 13,000-strong Facebook group formed to cast regular binding spells on Donald Trump.
"But in the aftermath of the bitter fight over Kavanaugh’s confirmation, during which the judge firmly denied sexual misconduct against Ford or other women who came forward with similar allegations, rituals have become more than just an emotionally rewarding part of political energy-raising. They’ve also become a form of self-care....
"As Kristen J. Sollee, author of the book Witches, Sluts, and Feminists, told Vox, “Witchcraft is particularly powerful for women and folks on [the] feminine spectrum right now because we need tools steeped in community, empathy, and nature to both heal ourselves and fight the abuses of capitalist, white supremacist heteropatriarchy head on. Witchcraft is about conjuring strength and agency from within and not bowing down to arbitrary authority, so it’s a reminder that your oppressors, your trauma, and your government don’t have to define you — or break you. Ironically, the very practices that may have once spelled death for women centuries ago can now be life-saving.”"
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/10/10/17952388/magic-ritual-spells-self-care-feminism-brett-kavanaugh
"Hexing Brett Kavanaugh Was the Healing I Needed...
"In the center of the event space—a long, black room with chalkboard walls—there is an elaborate altar replete with candles (seven-day burners, as well as white, penis-shaped candles with coffin nails through them), animal parts (skulls, antlers, claws), and three poppets (dolls meant to represent someone) with the faces of President Donald Trump, Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, and Senator Mitch McConnell. Above the altar, the chalkboard wall has a sigil, and above that, the Latin "Lavetur in nobis sanguis tyrranus" and its English translation, "We bathe in the blood of tyrants.""
etc.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/wj99mz/hex-brett-kavanaugh-rape-trauma
The number of witches, Wiccans or whatever is still not that high. The religions of Trumpism, anti-vax and QAnon? Much higher and unambiguously right wing. You can find crazies on both sides; it's the right where crazies are both the base and hold power.
Note that before COVID antivaxxers were more evenly split; like this from 2017:
https://theconversation.com/anti-vaccination-beliefs-dont-follow-the-usual-political-polarization-81001
"Pagan politics are not as uniform (or liberal) as you think"
https://religionnews.com/2021/05/26/pagan-politics-are-not-as-uniform-or-liberal-as-you-think/
Don't get your crystals out of alignment, I didn't say paganism was uniform or liberal.
Then what is your point? Just that there's some religionists who seem wacky on the left/Democratic side of things? You dredge up something stupidly irrelevant and not really correct, and then deny that it is your point. One might conclude that you just want to defend the right wing without declaring your allegiance.
I simply find that the Rev bases his political analysis on various unexamined assumptions, such as his hated Other having a monopoly on superstition. It’s always relevant to show the Rev. is wrong.
I most certainly do oppose the modern “Right,” because of their tendence to attach themselves to crappy political parties and leaders. Their philosophy, such as it is, seems to be: support the establishment, but make themselves out to be just slightly less insane than the “left,” while in reality they’re just a few years behind them. In the long run there’s no real difference; the left may be a bit further down the road to insanity, but the right is following closely behind.
The “great clash of ideas” between the two sides is this: Going full speed ahead on the crazy train (the left) or going in the same direction but slightly slower and with unconvincing protests (the right).
Look at the great consensus issues between the two sides. Yuge national debt, an overextended military, corporate power, centralization. Plus restricting third-party competition, and maintaining a first-past-the-post system so they can use the “stolen vote” argument to keep voters on their respective plantations. Not to mention items like giant benefits and pensions for officeholders, and a revolving door between government and the “private” sector.
So my criticism of the right is that they’re *nearly* as bad as your side, and in the long run won’t be very distinguishable. Supporting the right in order to protect oneself from the left is a false hope, a rope of sand.
Yes, you often rush to offer some weak quibble about Kirkland's comments. Always defending the right while pretending not to support them. Your claim that the right is not as bad as the left is nonsense, which you support only by cherry picking the extreme of the left who have little to no influence, or outright assigning right wingers to the left. But it makes it obvious what you are. At least the Trump loving commenters here are honest about what they are.
I said the right was almost as bad as you guys. After that harsh insult, how could you claim I support them?
You fixate on a perfect utopia, or at least claim to, while jumping to both sides various criticisms of the right (as if these comment sections didn't already have plenty of other defenders of the right wing). Plenty of staunch right wing supporters pretend to be independents or to hate both parties, when it's really just a slightly different candidate they wanted (or the classic "I was a lifelong member of the Democrat party until "). But, sure, you keep pissing on the comments section and insisting that it's raining.
That is a political movement hiding behind religious garb -- and a lot of it is sexual harassment.
But then, my Bible says thou shalt not suffer a witch to live....
No, I’m going to go further.
A: Remind me of how we define “hostile environment.” If all the male employees belonged to an organization that sought to not only treat women badly but to wish physical harm on them, how, exactly would that not be a “hostile environment” per se, even if there were no articulate malicious acts outside the coven.
No more than the so-called "Christian" Klu Klux Klan is -- and the precedent on the latter is clear.
If someone confronts me (without cause) with what she thinks is deadly force, don’t I have the right to use deadly force in my defense? It becomes a very slippery slope from there, but this crap is not deserving of religious protection!
Now comes the vile Dr. Ed 2, drooling again over the possibility of killing someone he doesn't agree with.
Witches don't actually have magical powers to harm you. Moreover, I doubt that many of them try to work harm on anyone.
I'm pretty sure that a belief that they can magically harm you is not something a reasonable person could believe, and therefore would not justify you responding with deadly force. You might manage an insanity plea; I've certainly seen evidence here that you cannot distinguish right from wrong.
Reading this reminded me of the legend of Cassandra, blessed with the gift of prophecy but cursed so that nobody would believe her.
And too stupid to realise that all she needed to do was tell everyone the opposite of her prediction
But what if the curse only applied if she prophesied truthfully? That would leave people free to believe fake-news prophecies.
SRG : "And too stupid to realize that all she needed to do was tell everyone the opposite of her prediction"
I dunno. Things never seemed to end well when mortals tried to cheat the Olympian gods …..
Well, Prometheus tricked the Olympian gods and got us fire; and almost nothing bad happened to him after that. 😉
Tantalus was uppity with his betters and he got off with little more than a slap on the wrist.
I thought there was something in the myth that as a condition of receiving her gift of prophecy, she was also compelled to tell the truth. If so, your workaround would have been unavailable.
But I'll admit that it has been many decades since my Greek Mythology classes.
Thought about a career as a Psychic, but there was no future in it.
This whack job internet sleuth deserves to be sued for everything she has. Unfortunately the odds are high that what she has amounts to almost nothing.
Mentally unstable people and the internet are a toxic combination.
The problem is that the average person lacks the reasoning ability to see through this stuff. This global something hysteria wouldn't exist if people did.
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Well, the average Republican, anyway. Hence the widespread MAGA belief that the 2020 election was stolen.
Though a psychic investigator might just be the help Comer needs to find that Biden corruption he seeks. After the Devon Archer debacle, it couldn't be worse.....
Devon Archer was a debacle only if you went into it not thinking it was possibly true. Which is a problem with you, not him. I have no idea if it’s true or not but there’s no reason I see to dismiss it out of hand.
Considering what was promised about him, and what he delivered, I think debacle is about right.
Gosh, you’re certainly an unbiased source. You’ve been skeptical of Archer since you were potty trained.
He delivered that Biden Sr attended meetings with Hunter’s customers. Believe it or not - I admit I don’t know and you wouldn’t admit that you don’t know under extreme torture - if true that’s enough to implicate Joe in Hunter’s sleaze.
bevis the lumberjack : “He delivered ….”
Archer testified :
1. There was never any hint Hunter could delivered influence.
2. Hunter sold the “illusion of influence” only.
3. He never saw / heard Hunter discuss any business with his father.
4. He saw no misconduct by Joe Biden at any time.
5. Ukrainian oligarchs regularly brag about influence they don’t have.
6. There was no appeal to Joe Biden on Shokin.<
7. Burisma wasn’t afraid of Shokin.
8. The company was worried about his successor, not his firing.
Thus all the Right’s promises and memes were left in shambles. And what did Archer deliver for the massive build-up his testimony was given?
1. Hunter let Biz associates listen as he discussed sports and the weather with Joe.
2. Hunter got biz associates an introduction with his father.
And that’s it! By the day-to-day standards of Washington DC politics, that’s as shocking as a knitting competition going into sudden death overtime. It’s that’s proof of “corruption”, you probably can’t find a non-corrupt pol in the entire city. It’s that’s your measure of impeachment-worth offense, then you could have impeached half of the Trump administration every week of every year throughout his presidency.
So yeah, Archer’s testimony was a debacle for the Right, Why else do you think Comer rushed on Fox to claim Archer said the exact opposite of what the transcripts show? When you have nothing except the wreckage of everything you’ve claimed, just lie. It’s the Right’s way.
But Archer does provide us with the guilty pleasure of watching Bevis in full actor-mode, loudly declaiming his Inspector Renault-style shock (shock!) and horror (horror!) over the business of introductions in DC.
Me? I’m shocked (shocked!) and horrified (horrified!) that water is wet.
You can post 100,000 word posts all you want, but you still can’t come up with a simple plausible non-sleazy reason why those foreigners gave a drug addled amoral incompetent buffoon like Hunter Biden all that money.
You may not want to admit what happened here, but out here in normie land we do.
bevis the lumberjack : You may not want to admit what happened here, but out here in normie land we do.
Uh huh. I don't think people in "normie land" would be shocked that some losers are employed on the basis of name alone, or that the son of a politician can get an associate an intro with Daddy. I don't think people in "normie land" are pearl-clutching virgins collapsed back on the fainting couch as you are - or pretend to be.
No, you misunderstand. Assuming everything Archer said was true, it was a debacle for the GOP. He just didn't say any of the things they were claiming he was going to say — or even the things they claimed he did say during the several days between his testimony and when it was released.
Dr. Ed 2, who later posted his belief that witches can magically harm him, is not the person to lecture on "the reasoning ability to see through this stuff".
Witches are children playing with a fire that they don't understand but the issue I raise is that of hostile environment sexual harassment. If female employees, particularly in higher levels, engage in anti-male group gropes, how is that different from when men did it and the ladies cried "foul"?
You are living in a fantasy world populated with real witches who sexually harass men when they're not killing people with their magical powers. You wanted to know if you could justify killing them because their curses threaten your life.
Women can engage in sexual harassment or create hostile workplaces; it's less frequent than men doing that for various reasons, but women being witches does not make it more likely.
Yeah, rural electrification turned out to be a spectacularly bad idea.
Nostradumbass.
Any significant difference from a man who thinks he is a woman?
Or a woman who thinks she is a man?
Crazy is as crazy does.
What about an ostensible adult who believes fairy tales are true?
Do you create an exception for those gullible hayseeds?
The “average person” can see through whack-job stuff like this just fine. Cranks on the internet with a TikTok following of other gullible cranks are not representative of the “average person”.
Your misconception about this matter is, however, entirely consistent with your own crankitude.
Yeah, there are crime-obsessed people out there who eat this stuff up.
I just hope she hasn’t been able to persuade any authorities with her crap. I know of one case where that happened and the poor dupe target got the full rubber hose before they finally figured out there was no evidence. The guy that actually did that one was finally caught years later through DNA and is either on death row or he’s been executed.
She messes with the lives of innocent people with her spirit.
My one-line decision would have been: "Defendant's counter-suit dismissed on grounds that it's meshuggah".
Hmm, I wonder if Ashley Guillard saw that ruling coming?
That's the sound of a million feminists hexing the judge.
"Plaintiff Rebecca Scofield"
"Defendant Ashley Guillard"
Both parties in the case are women. I don't get where/how you see a feminist outrage angle.
Enter judge.