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Accusing Trump of Perpetrating "Big Lie" Is Opinion and Therefore Not Libelous, Court Holds
From Trump v. CNN, decided Friday (quite correctly, I think) by Judge Raag Singhal (S.D. Fla.):
Trump alleges that CNN defamed him by making statements comparing him to Hitler and the Nazi regime …:
[a.] On January 25, 2021, CNN published an article written by Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a "frequent contributor to CNN Opinion," entitled "Trump's big lie wouldn't have worked without his thousands of little lies." Ben-Ghiat wrote: "This is Trump's 'Big Lie,' a brazen falsehood with momentous consequences." Ben-Ghiat likened the Plaintiff to an authoritarian dictator, writing:
Trump, a leader of authoritarian intentions and tendencies, had disadvantages with respect to the foreign autocrats he so admires. He had no state media, like China's Xi Jinping. He could not rule by decree, like Hungary's Viktor Orbán. He had to govern and run for reelection in an open society with a relatively robust free press. Moreover, although he succeeded in making journalists into hate objects for many of his followers, he could not revoke or destroy the First Amendment.
So Trump took a different tack, unleashing a barrage of disinformation common in authoritarian states but without precedent in the history of the American presidency. He told more than 30,000 documented lies in public (30,573 was The Washington Post's final tally), on Twitter, at rallies and in interviews. If taken as an average, it would come out to 21 lies per day over his four-year term.
[b.] On July 5, 2021, CNN published an article written by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-Large, entitled "Donald Trump just accidentally told the truth about his disinformation strategy." In this article, CNN's Editor-at-Large likens the Plaintiff to Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels: "One can only hope that Trump was unaware that his quote was a near-replication of this infamous line from Nazi Joseph Goebbels: 'If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.'" {The Trump quote referenced by Cillizza was made on July 3, 2022, in Sarasota, Florida: "If you say it enough and keep saying it, they'll start to believe you."}
[c.] On September 15, 2021, CNN published an article written by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-Large, entitled, "Donald Trump's Mental Health becomes an issue again." In this article, CNN Editor-at-Large wrote that President Trump "continued to push the Big Lie that the election was somehow stolen despite there being zero actual evidence to back up that belief."
[d.] On January 16, 2022, CNN aired a television show entitled "State of the Union" that included host Jake Tapper making the following comments:
TAPPER: Over the weekend, while Martin Luther King III was in Arizona rallying to expand voting rights, Donald Trump was, the same day, in the same state, doing the exact opposite, continuing to push his big lie.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Last year, we had a rigged election, and the proof is all over the place. They always talk about the big lie. They're the big lie. (END VIDEO CLIP)
TAPPER: There is a reason Trump was in Arizona, to push the legislature to disenfranchise the state's voters based on all of his deranged election lies.
[e.] On February 11, 2022, CNN published an article written by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-Large, entitled, "Here's the terrible reality: Trump's election lie is on the march" with a link entitled, "New poll suggests Trump 2020 election lie is working." In the article, Cillizza claims:
This is the insidiousness of Trump's big lie. It's like an earworm—you may hate the song but you just keep finding yourself humming it in the shower. Trump has created a constant low-level buzz within the American electorate that something is wrong with the way we conduct elections. That he has no proof doesn't seem to matter; by sheer repetition, his false claims are wheedling their way into the consciousness of the public.
Trump alleges that the use of the phrase "the Big Lie" constitutes defamation per se because it "create[s] a false and incendiary association between the Plaintiff and Hitler." He argues that the use of the phrase "the Big Lie" is defamatory because it "has incited readers and viewers to hate, contempt, distrust, ridicule, and even fear the Plaintiff causing injury to the Plaintiff, the Plaintiff's reputation, and the Plaintiff's political career." As a result, Trump claims that viewers and readers "understood that Plaintiff would be Hitler-like in any future political role."
Trump further alleges that CNN failed to similarly challenge Democrat politicians who complained about election integrity. He argues that CNN's disparate treatment of public figures is evidence of malice and "evidence that Defendant is not reporting the news, but rather propagating its political views." …
The [key] question is whether the statements were false statements of fact. This is where Trump's defamation claims fail.
The problem is essentially two-fold. First, the complained of statements are opinion, not factually false statements, and therefore are not actionable. Second, the reasonable viewer, unlike when Sullivan, Butts or Gertz were decided, no longer takes the time to research and verify reporting that often is not, in fact, news. As an example, only one month ago, the United States Supreme Court issued a well written 237-page joint opinion with vastly divergent views in two cases known widely as the Affirmative Action decisions. Within minutes of the release of the opinion, the free press had reported just what the opinion supposedly said and meant although it was clearly impossible that the reporter had read the opinion. And of course, those initial news articles were repeatedly shared, commented upon and disseminated over social media and still to this day the reasonable viewer very likely hasn't read the opinion and never will. This is the news model of today. It is far different than that in Sullivan which altered law that existed for 175 years and has spawned a cottage industry over the last 60. But this too is not actionable.
Trump argues that CNN's motivation for describing his election challenges as "the Big Lie" was to undermine Trump's political standing. But political motivation does not establish falsity. The "intention to portray [a] public figure in [a] negative light, even when motivated by ill will or evil intent, is not sufficient to show actual malice unless the publisher intended to inflict harm through knowing or reckless falsehood."
Acknowledging that CNN acted with political enmity does not save this case; the Complaint alleges no false statements of fact. Trump complains that CNN described his election challenges as "the Big Lie." Trump argues that "the Big Lie" is a phrase attributed to Joseph Goebbels and that CNN's use of the phrase wrongly links Trump with the Hitler regime in the public eye. This is a stacking of inferences that cannot support a finding of falsehood.
Church of Scientology v. Cazares (5th Cir. 1981) is similar to the present case. There, a city official made numerous public statements opposing the church's presence in the city. In one he stated: "Scientologists are bringing to the city a helter-skelter world and philosophy." The church sued, stating that "the term 'helter-skelter' had, by reason of a best-selling book and television movie of the same title come into public understanding as descriptive of the policy of [a] generation of racial strife and indiscriminate mass murder allegedly espoused by the infamous and widely publicized Charles Manson." The church claimed that by using the term "helter-skelter," the defendant intended "to convey to the public that [the church] was dedicated to promotion of [a] generation of racial strife and indiscriminate mass murder." The former Fifth Circuit found no defamation, stating that it was "not prepared to build inference upon inference in order to find defamatory meaning in a statement." Neither is this Court able to create an inference of defamatory meaning.
Trump alleges that "the Big Lie" refers to a Nazi "propaganda campaign to justify Jewish persecution and genocide." Like Trump and CNN personalities Ashleigh Banfield and Paul Steinhauser (see , the Court finds Nazi references in the political discourse (made by whichever "side") to be odious and repugnant. But bad rhetoric is not defamation when it does not include false statements of fact. CNN's use of the phrase "the Big Lie" in connection with Trump's election challenges does not give rise to a plausible inference that Trump advocates the persecution and genocide of Jews or any other group of people. No reasonable viewer could (or should) plausibly make that reference…. "The language of the publication declared upon should not be interpreted by the extremes but should be 'construed as the common mind would ordinarily understand it." … And even if the phrase "the Big Lie" could somehow plausibly compel a reasonable viewer to perceive Trump as "Hitler-like," or "authoritarian," such terms are not statements of fact subject to defamation laws "because of the tremendous imprecision of the meaning and usage of such terms in the realm of political debate …." A connotation or implication is only actionable if it is "provably false." Being "Hitler-like" is not a verifiable statement of fact that would support a defamation claim. {In Buckley, the court held that "political labels" such as "fascist," "fellow traveler," and "radical right" were too imprecise to be proven as statements of fact.}
{Trump cites three cases where references to Hitler were deemed defamatory. See State v. Guinn (Tenn. 1961); O'Donnell v. Philadelphia Rec. Co. (Pa. 1947); Goodrich v. Rep. Pub. Co. (Tex. Civ. App. 1946). But these cases were decided before New York Times Co. v. Sullivan and its progeny and, therefore, have little to no bearing on this case.}
Brian M. Underwood, Jr. and Eric P. Schroeder (Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner LLP) and Eric Corey Edison and George S. LeMieux (Gunster Yoakley & Stewart, P.A.) represent CNN.
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Such Bull Hockey, the "Daily Lie Tally" remember one being when some South American Attorney was visiting the White House and "45" declared he was one of the most prominent Attorneys in South America, there's a difference between being Diplomatic and being a two-bit Mafioso like our Current Senescent in Chief.
Frank
Frank discovered nuance!
What separates (legally) opinion from lie?
This question explains a lot!
To answer, lies are not actionable of themselves. Opinions are not actionable either. Only certain types of lies intended to defame or defraud tend to be actionable. It's harder to defame a public figure than a regular Joe. There are other categories, which I'll leave to the 1A lawyers to identify.
Well, at least they aren't supposed to be. But see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Steyn#Defamation_lawsuit
Must. Resist. Attempts. To. Snark.
Opinions are things that are incapable of being proven true or false. Lies can be (and, obviously, must be).
The definition seems to depend on whether the judge is on the same political side as the plaintiff or the defendant. If Trump had called a Democrat a Nazi, I'm sure the judge would have found for the Democrat.
Of course, the judge Candace Owens got told the same big lie as this one.
I agree that the District Judge (a Trump appointee, FWIW) got it right here. But it would have been interesting to see Donald Trump try to prove factually that the statements by CNN personnel were actually false.
The District Judge got the decision correct, but the opinion is filled with irrelevant musings. Nobody cares what the judge's opinion of NYT v. Sullivan is — particularly in a case that didn't turn on NYT v. Sullivan! — or his opinion of CNN's practices or Nazi references.
It’s not even opinion. That Turnip lost the 2020 election is fact. And everybody except liars and the easily fooled understands that “Big Lie” refers to the uninterrupted string of lies put out by Turnip and his wide and various collection of liars and fools about the 2020 election. “The Big Lie” is colloquial shorthand for “uninterrupted string of lies…”.
But claiming a woman is crazy for her rape accusation is of course libelous and worth a payout even as you declare she was not raped by the person defending themselves from the rapist smear.
Gotta love modern lawfare.
This makes no sense to me.
Accusing someone of lying is the quintessential statement of fact. The person either lied or did not.
The courts seem to be diminishing statements of fact into non-existence.
Is Trump conceding he lied and merely objecting to the word “big”? Even that seems factually resolvable. A lie alleging massive fraud in the conduct of a Presidential election is hardly a lie about a small matter.
How can accusing someone of lying be an expression of opinion?
Maybe you should try reading before commenting, then. Trump was not claiming that he was telling the truth about the election and therefore calling him a liar was defamatory. (For obvious reasons: it would be sanctionable for any lawyer to claim that Trump actually won.) Trump's claim was focused on the idea that describing his behavior as "the Big Lie" was an attempt to associate him in people's minds with Hitler, and that such association was defamatory.
But it’s a factual descriptive term. It’s not opinion. So what if the phrase has also been applied to someone else?
I’ll try answering more clearly.
It seems to me that if Trump concedes that calling it a big lie is factually correct, the answer is simple. If he is concerned with the damage that may come to his reputation by the public implicitly comparing him with other people who have uttered big lies, he can avoid such damage simply by refraining from lying big. It’s entirely in his hands, and none of a court’s or defamation law’s business.
That is, the damage to his reputation he is concerned about strikes me as the simple ordinary consequence of describing his conduct accurately. It is caused entirely by his conduct, not from an accurate description of it.
Don’t want the public reprobation that comes with being called a serial rapist? Don’t commit multiple rapes. Don’t want the infamy that comes with being called a big liar? Don’t tell a big lie. Don’t want the public implicitly comparing you to Hitler? Avoid doing things that could be accurately described in a way that might be implicitly so compared.
It’s very straightforward. I don’t see why opinion has anything to do with it.
He did not "concede" that; it's simply not the issue raised by the lawsuit.
You are begging the question. He's saying that it's not an accurate description because "Big Lie" is essentially a term of art that refers to the Nazis, not just an assertion that it's a Lie of Unusual Size.
It would be like describing a particular politician's proposal as a Final Solution to the immigration problem, or observing that the politician has a Five Year Plan to fix the economy.
"Second, the reasonable viewer, unlike when Sullivan, Butts or Gertz were decided, no longer takes the time to research and verify reporting that often is not, in fact, news. ... This is the news model of today. It is far different than that in Sullivan which altered law that existed for 175 years and has spawned a cottage industry over the last 60."
So, a news report can't be defamatory because no reasonable person would assume that news reports were actually true? That's a pretty big deal, if the judiciary takes that position; The news media would become essentially immune to defamation suits.
It's amazing how you manage to read everything 180° backwards to fit your conspiracy theories. No, your "so" statement completely misses his point. He's saying that Sullivan should be overruled because false statements made by the media are now more damaging because people don't take the time to examine their accuracy. He wants to increase the media's liability for defamation, not make them immune.