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Beyond Textualism? on SSRN
A few months ago I linked to a lecture called "Beyond Textualism?" that I gave at Harvard Law School in the "Scalia Lecture" series -- on what the core insight of textualism is and how we might extend it even in cases where the text itself is silent. I now have a written version of those remarks available on SSRN (they will be forthcoming in the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy).
It opens:
Last fall, I was at another law school, visiting with a friend, a co-author. So of course, we started talking about legal interpretation. I went into his office, he shut the door, and then the first thing he asked me was, "Do you think textualism has sort of played itself out?" This lecture is about the answer to that question.
and continues:
In general, the textualist revolution was correct and salutary. But it is getting to be time to solve some problems where standard textualist teaching might lead us astray. If we think of textualism, or the phrase, "the plain text," as just mantras -- prayers to ward off the demons of bad judging -- we will not find salvation. We need to understand why textualism is right. If we do, then it may mean that sometimes in some cases our analysis will have to move a little bit beyond the text.
What do I mean?
The key insights of textualism are really two things: positivism and formalism. The insight of textualism is positivism in the sense that judges are supposed to follow external sources of law rather than treat jurisdiction as necessarily giving them the power to make decisions in their own discretion. When it comes to the question: What does the statute mean? or what should we do in this case where the agency or somebody else's behavior is governed by statute? the key question judges are supposed to be asking is, what did the law say they should do? The answer comes from law outside the judge.
The argument for textualism as opposed to policymaking, for text over policy, comes from this kind of positivism. It is not the judge's job to decide what is the best thing, all things considered, or what would make our legal order better rather than worse, all things considered. It is the judge's job to ask what something else says about those things.
The other key insight of textualism is formalism, in the sense that it recognizes that the rule does not always match the reasons for the rule. Sometimes rules go beyond their reasons; a rule can be overbroad compared to the reasons for enacting it. And sometimes rules are underbroad; a rule cannot quite do all the things that you might want to do given the reasons for enacting the rule. Textualism recognizes that when the judge enforces the law, the law's rule might sometimes be different from what the people who enacted the law would have wanted had they thought about the situation.
This is the argument for textualism as opposed to intentionalism. The reason to follow text rather than the imagined or even the known intent of the people who enacted the law, comes from this kind of formalism. Judges, when they're enforcing a rule that comes from outside themselves, might have to enforce a rule that isn't exactly the same as the reasons for the rule.
These two things work together. Textualism reflects an insight -- central to the structure of our government and central to the fabric of our law as it has evolved in our legal system -- that the job of an interpreter (let's call her a "judge") is usually to enforce rules that come from someplace else, not to make the rules herself and not to imagine rules that were never actually made law anywhere.
Those insights are the reasons for textualism, but those insights don't necessarily stop at textualism. If we are going to continue to honor the basic structure of our government and of our own legal order, we are sometimes going to need to think more deeply about the jurisprudential insights that underlie textualism. The problem is that the text itself, even the text supplemented by something like the original meaning of the text, is incomplete. It gives incomplete or misleading answers to important questions about the law. It needs to be supplemented with attention to our entire legal framework because our legal system relies not just on written texts but also on an unwritten law. We need to supplement textualism with this unwritten law, law that governs both interpretation and background principles against which interpretation takes place.
It discusses examples like the "major questions doctrine" and other substantive canons, Erie RR v. Tompkins and the common law more generally, and the original meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment.
It concludes:
Now before I gave this lecture, Dean Manning confessed to me that he was very nervous about it. Frankly, I am too. I am sure that this lecture will be misunderstood, miscited, and misquoted by people who did not hear or read it and who miss the basic point I am trying to make here. I won't give them any ideas, but you can probably imagine.
So let me try to state it clearly one more time before we finish.
Textualism, to a first approximation, is central to the rule of law.
But to a second approximation, we sometimes need to use other legal rules, unwritten law, and doing so is completely consistent with the reasons that we use legal texts.
- We need unwritten law as a backdrop against which to read legal texts.
- We need unwritten law to understand the common law system -- the real common law system, not the system of judge-made law that has usurped it.
- We need unwritten law because our legal texts sometimes point us toward it. We need to know how to accept the invitation.
Admitting these things has risks, but denying these things has risks too.
- Denying them risks sending us in statutory interpretation circles, unable to explain how we can avoid being literalists and also avoid being opportunists.
- Denying them risks leading people to abandon textualism, and positivism, and formalism, and even the rule of law itself because they mistakenly think that we have no other way to make sense of the central legal traditions such as natural rights.
- And it risks leading us to close our eyes to the meaning of the constitutional text itself, because sometimes the text requires us to engage with unwritten law. The text requires us to go beyond the text.
If we do not teach our students how to do these things, if we do not revive the more fundamental pre-realist tenets of our legal tradition, then our students will be misled into thinking that the only choices are the plain text and judicial policymaking. That is not true, and I will take my chances in saying so.
You can read the whole thing here. And of course you can watch it here.
Finally, later today I'll also be participating in a Federalist Society webinar on "The Future of Textualism?" with a great crew -- Professors Nick Bagley, Chris Walker, and Emily Bremer, moderated by Judge Greg Katsas -- where I'll be talking about these themes some more.
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Where does the OP fit in with the notion of, "history and tradition," as it is now being used by the SCOTUS to GPS its way to every preferred destination on the rightwing map.
Also unclear, at least to me. How do positivism and formalism intersect or interact with the notion of historical context of creation? Academic historians will tell you that every text which survives into the present had when it was created a context of creation which in large measure informed its meaning. Problem is, the text gets to the present unchanged, but the context of creation is invariably forgotten, unless it can be recreated by using methods of historical inference which are generally unknown to legal scholars. What do positivism and formalism have to say about that?
'Problem is, the text gets to the present unchanged, but the context of creation is invariably forgotten, unless it can be recreated by using methods of historical inference which are generally unknown to legal scholars'.
You don't need those theories to identify the fact that your ' is invariably forgotten' part begs the question.
But this is exactly what Calvin Coolidge said shows you don't accept its timelessness !!
"If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions. If anyone wishes to deny their truth or their soundness, the only direction in which he can proceed historically is not forward, but backward toward the time when there was no equality, no rights of the individual, no rule of the people."
This is all in Catholic Canon Law
We need unwritten law as a backdrop against which to read legal texts.
We need unwritten law because our legal texts sometimes point us toward it. We need to know how to accept the invitation.
More than that, the chief reason the public is nowhere as educated or interested in the law of their country -- much less than even colonial times up until the Jackson presidiency is that it is no longer coherent or based on first principles, It is ad hoc in the extreme, so it looks to the intelligent lay observer. I read Kagan and Sotomayor sometimes and think : This is just nonsense and would not survive a cocktail party in the suburbs. And Ketanji seems from outer space.
The natural law background has been defended excellently (to me, it is established beyond question) see recent books like
"The Classical and Christian Origins of American Politics" , much lauded even by the strict critic Hadley Arkes.
Competent adults neither advance nor accept superstition-based argument in reasoned debate among adults, particularly with respect to public affairs and legal issues.
You advance and accept such claims all the time, AIDS, such as your quasi-religious claims of being equal and deserving to being treated as such. Not that you engage in reasoned-debate: you consciously avoid discussing the merits because you can't confront the fact that your beliefs are mere irrational prejudices and what that says about you, your life, and your worth.
Carry on, evolutionary dud clinger, till your American betters Anders Breivik you.
The natural law background has been defended excellently (to me, it is established beyond question)
Do you mean that it is unarguable that the basis of good law is natural law, or that the basis of US law is natural law? If the latter, you may well be right. If the former, you're an idiot.
A well-reasoned and incisive rebuttal.
I didn't think it was a rebuttal. I thought I was posting an expression of opinion - as I think anyone in the 21stC who advances natural law arguments is a domain-specific idiot guilty of motivated reasoning/rationalisation and lacking any degree of independent thought and reflection, but okay.
"We need unwritten law to understand the common law system—the real common law system, not the system of judge-made law that has usurped it."
Emergent law versus imposed law.
We can't merely make the laws we want to have, or think we should have.
He lost me with the claim that the common law isn't judge-made.
Calling in extrinsic aids to interpretation is needed when the law is ambiguous or uses terms of art - i. e., lots of the time.
Textualism can answer some elementary questions all by itself, though.
Does the Bill of Rights categorically forbid the death penalty? No, because the text refers to capital crimes.
Does Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment protect voting rights? No, because Section 2 provides an alternate method of enforcement of certain voting rights.
etc.
Textualism reflects an insight—central to the structure of our government and central to the fabric of our law as it has evolved in our legal system—that the job of an interpreter (let's call her a "judge") is usually to enforce rules that come from someplace else, not to make the rules herself and not to imagine rules that were never actually made law anywhere.
Isn't intent also enforcing rules that come from someplace else, and also not about imagining anything, but rather looking for evidence in the record?
I'm all for starting with the text for reasons of simplicity, but I'm not seeing a lot actually addressing the differences between the practice of legislative intent versus legislative text.
Textualism asserts that. Purposivism doesn't. Calling it recognition is begging the question of greater legitimacy.
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