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The Case Against the Public Property Rationale for Immigration Restrictions
The argument has some appeal, especially to libertarians. But it's actually a rationale for sweeping statist constraints on liberty.
One standard rationale for immigration restrictions is that governments have a right to exclude people much like the owner of a private house does. I have critiqued this argument here, and in greater detail in Chapter 5 of my book Free to Move: Foot, Voting, Migration, and Political Freedom. Among other things, this theory, if taken seriously, is a rationale for a quasi-totalitarian state that can suppress speech, religion, and other liberties, at will. It also ends up undermining actual private property rights, by blocking property owners from renting to immigrants, hiring them to work on their land, and so on.
But there is a different, less well-known, property rights rationale for immigration restrictions, one that focuses on public property specifically. I have not seen a serious academic defense of it. But it's increasingly common on social media, and elsewhere, and has particular appeal to libertarian-oriented immigration restrictionists.
The public property theory (at least implicitly) concedes that the government cannot justly prevent immigrants from accessing the property of willing private owners. But, so the argument goes, it can prevent them from using public property. After all, the state does own public property, and therefore can regulate it as sees fit. Or, alternatively, public property is collectively owned by the state's citizens, and they can use democratic political processes to restrict access as they wish.
Under current law, public property includes almost all major roads, most air space, and most significant waterways (including coastal waters). Therefore, if the government is entitled to restrict access to public property as it wishes, it can effectively bar nearly all immigration, or as much of it as it wants. And it can do so without directly restricting anyone's private property rights! One can readily see why this argument has appeal to people who consider themselves libertarians (and therefore advocate strong private property rights), but also support sweeping immigration restrictions.
Unfortunately, the public property rationale for migration restrictions turns out to have illiberal - and anti-libertarian - implications almost as dire as those of the house analogy. Libertarian political philosopher Christopher Freiman explains how:
Sometimes "bordertarians" argue that the state may restrict immigration because it may dictate how public property—specifically public roads—can be used. On this view, if the state decides that immigrants may not travel on public roads, then immigrants may not travel on public roads.
This is a bad view. I doubt that many of those who endorse it would grant that the state may prohibit citizens from traveling on public roads with books defending libertarianism in their car. States don't have carte blanche to violate people's liberties so long as they're located on public property. This is (one reason) why the "public property" objection to freedom of immigration fails—the state may not violate people's freedom of association or movement simply because they happen to make use of public roads.
If the government - or a political majority - can restrict access to public property however they wish, they can use that power to suppress a wide range of civil and economic liberties. For example, they could bar travel by critics of the government (or bar the distribution of their writings through public property). They could similarly bar adherents of religions they disapprove of (no more Jews on the roads; or no more Muslims!), and so on. Even if you think that real-world democratic governments would stop short of going this far, the public property theory suggests they would have no moral obligation to refrain from taking such measures (at least if they were backed by a majority of citizens).
The implications of the public property rationale for migration restrictions are particularly dire for libertarians. After all, we believe that people have a right to engage in a wide range of unpopular activities! On the public property theory, the state would be entirely justified in forbidding the use of public property to distribute any product it wishes to bar, whether it be drugs, alcohol, fatty foods, vaping products, or anything else. And, just as immigrants can be effectively barred from a nation if they cannot use public property, the same goes for virtually any good or service, so long as its distribution relies on the use of roads, aircraft, or public waterways.
Many of the libertarians sympathetic to the public property rationale for immigration restrictions also favor free trade. But the former can easily be used to destroy the latter. If the government can bar foreign people from roads and airways, the same goes for foreign-produced goods.
It isn't just libertarians who have strong reason to reject the public property theory, due to its dire implications. The same goes for liberals of any stripe who believe people have a right to engage in at least some unpopular activities that government might choose to suppress. After all, given the ubiquity of public property in modern society, almost any human interaction can be blocked by preventing people engaged in it from using roads, airways, and so on. For example, a homophobic society could use this power to bar gays and lesbians from the roads (thereby making it difficult or impossible for them to form relationships). If the house analogy is a direct path to a near-totalitarian state, the public property theory gets there by a back door - or perhaps by a back road!
It doesn't necessarily follow that libertarians (or anyone) must endorse the view that there should be no restrictions on access to public property. Freiman, I think, has a good approach for how to think about these issues:
So what's a better view of public property? Here's a first take: the state is justified in enforcing only those restrictions on the use of public property that are needed to ensure its functioning, assuming that the function of that property is, in itself, morally permissible. (Clearly the state is not justified in using public property in ways that directly violate rights, just as citizens are not justified in using private property in ways that directly violate rights.)
For instance, a public library may restrict your freedom to check out books by requiring that you have a library card because that restriction is needed to ensure that the lending system functions properly. But the library would not be justified in prohibiting those wearing [Dallas] Cowboys shirts from entering the library because that's not needed to ensure that the library is able to do its job.
Similarly, the state may restrict your freedom to drive on a public road when, for instance, it's being repaired. That's needed to ensure that the road functions properly. But the state would not be justified in prohibiting you from transporting particular books or people in your car.
No doubt this account will need some refinement, but I think it's at least the start of an answer to a hard question for libertarians.
As Freiman notes, the theory needs much more refinement. But it's at least a good start.
Immigration restrictionists can potentially argue, under Freiman's approach, that barring (at least some) immigrants from the roads is justified in order to ensure that they are not overused, or to prevent migrants from overburdening the welfare state, increasing crime, spreading harmful cultural values, and so on. But then the focus of the debate properly shifts to whether immigrants really do cause these harms, and - if so - whether that justifies restricting migration (including by perfectly innocent people), as opposed to imposing "keyhole" solutions. In that event, the public property argument will no longer be doing any meaningful work.
One can argue that the danger of overuse of public property is more closely linked to its functions than some of these other issues, and therefore provides a stronger rationale for limiting immigrant access to roads and the like. But even if overuse is a genuine risk, it should not be addressed by restricting access based on morally arbitrary criteria of ancestry and place of birth (as immigration restrictions do). We can instead impose nondiscriminatory numerical limits, assess tolls, and the like. Moreover, some of the vast additional wealth created by immigration can - if necessary - be tapped to build new infrastructure and finance the repair and upgrading of existing systems.
This entire issue might go away if you believe, as some libertarians do, that all or nearly all currently public property should be privatized. But if that's your view, you should also be opposed to the state using its current control over public property as leverage to impose sweeping restrictions on liberty - including those of immigrants and natives who wish to engage in interactions with them.
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Learn to use "read more", asshole. It takes way to long to skip past your open borders drivel.
Maybe that's his response to your bigotry, and the rampant bigotry of your fellow clingers that drags this blog into the right-wing cesspool?
Coach Jerry Sandusky, Ladies & Germs, Cesspool Aficionado,
Admit it Jerry, you just need "New Meat", pickings a little Slim at
https://www.cor.pa.gov/Facilities/StatePrisons/Pages/Greene.aspx???
Strawman
yep.
Congratulations, Professor Somin. You've just given De Santis a roadmap to punish all his enemies, both real and imagined. If you think normal political leaders would never cross that Rubicon into illiberalism, then you don't know modern conservatives
Governments have the power to exclude people and the foreign nationals who are excluded have no right to avoid being excluded. Period.
Governments are formed by free people to exercise such powers for the common good. Votes determine the popular understanding of the common good, so any broadly supported exclusion or entry policy represents the government fulfilling their purpose to the people who came together to form the government.
Please stop engaging in ridiculous strawman arguments. Thanks in advance.
Most Americans -- especially the educated, modern, reasoning, decent, successful Americans -- do not support authoritarian, bigoted, and cruel immigration policies and practices.
The authoritarian, intolerant culture war casualties who demonize immigrants tend to be clustered in downscale, declining, desolate communities, and can be loud in those backwaters, but they are the minority and the increasingly weakening losers at the modern American marketplace of ideas.
Libertarians -- Prof. Somin seems the token libertarian among the Volokh Conspirators -- are part of the modern American liberal-libertarian mainstream with respect immigration issues.
Coach Jerry Sandusky, who doesn't recognize Chicago and Detroit as downscale, declining, desolate communities, of course the Coach has been "Out of Circulation" for some time now...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback 🙂
Yes, Somin makes a stupid strawman argument. Of course governments can reserve privileges for its citizens.
All men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men.
And foreign nationals do not have a right to enter another country’s territory.
Everyone knows this, of course. That’s why, when you go to another country, you apply for entry. If you had a right to enter then you wouldn’t apply, you wouldn’t need to ask, you wouldn’t need to state the reason for your visit or the length of your stay.
"Bordertarians" are mild compared to the "welfare-tarians" who comprise the opposing faction of the Libertarian Party. The Libertarian Party now includes a ruling faction of mostly right-wing Bordertarians, and an opposing faction of left-wing welfare-tarians, who support trillions of dollars in race-based reparations, welfare, and handouts to "marginalized peoples." The welfare-tarians will take power if the current clowns running the Libertarian Party are defeated. For example, former Libertarian Party chairman Nicholas Sarwark, who ran the Party from 2014 to 2020, supports trillions of dollars in student loan bailouts, food stamps, and other welfare. This article describes the growth of both right-wing nuts and left-wing nuts in the Libertarian Party, with the latter, such as Sarwark, supporting trillions of dollars in student loan handouts, reparations, etc.: https://libertyunyielding.com/2023/04/27/libertarian-party-head-attacks-vaccines-lefty-former-lp-head-advocates-trillions-in-welfare-spending/
So he's a progressive leftist, not shocking but apparently you prefer them and the marxists they champion.
That's true, except for the fact of it not being true.
The entire support for the latter premise is an article showing that one guy said these things — except that the article doesn't show anything of the kind, because it relies not on what the guy said, but on retweets by the guy. You'd think in 2023 that people would understand that retweets do not mean one agrees with the original tweet, let alone everything that the original tweeter says.
The purpose of a retweet is to broadcast what the original tweeter says, because one agrees with it. Why call attention to a tweet unless it has some merit? That's true unless the retweet expresses disagreement with the original tweet it retweets. More importantly, Sarwark's own tweets, not included in the linked article, expressly attack New Hampshire Governor Chris Sununu for opposing Biden's student loan bailout. The linked article makes useful points, even if its writing style could use a lot of improvement, and it did not always cite the strongest evidence in support of its statements. https://libertyunyielding.com/2023/04/27/libertarian-party-head-attacks-vaccines-lefty-former-lp-head-advocates-trillions-in-welfare-spending/
Good first step: stop providing drivers licenses to illegal aliens and do not accept out of state licenses of illegals.
I see Ilya has upset the fascist fakertarians again...
Do you think borders are fascist?
"Often libertarians," the faux libertarians call themselves.
And "libertarianish."
But the garish libertarian drag of these authoritarian, intolerant, stale-thinking conservatives doesn't fool anyone.
Coach Jerry Sandusky, experienced in garish libertarian drag,
I agree that the argument should not be shifted from border protection to property rights: the goal is to keep invaders out, not to restrict the degree of lawful immigration we as voters decide to allow. No public servant should be attempting to deflect the real conversation!
So far, the best alternative seems to be to embed land mines at our southern and northern borders, just as we have embedded them in the Korean DMZ. It is a green initiative which will perhaps restore natural habitats to the degree now present in the DMZ.
Immigrant bussing has been effective in spreading the benefits of immigration to those who have never fully experienced the joy of immigrant urine, feces, disease, and crime. As such spreading of benefits increases -- VP Harris got two loads of joy today, Chicago's Lightfoot gets eight loads tomorrow, and several universities (which have lots of available dormitory space as well as under-utilized faculty housing) also get multiple loads -- I am certain the voting and property-owning public will see the light and embrace deportation reform.
Can those who operate a blog that precipitates this level of commentary ever escape the disaffected, disrespected fringes of American legal academia?
I doubt it.
US had minefields surrounding the "Border" at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base until 2018 (not really even a "Border" as the base is legally Cuban territory that we lease on a perpetual year-to-year basis) guess which POTUS had the mines removed?? Hint, it wasn't the Skinny Nappy Haired One (Peace be upon His nappiness)
Frank
If Somin has discovered an argument for keeping Muslims out, so much the better!
Professor Freiman is even worse than the Bordertarians, bad as they are, because Freiman supports giving drug users reparations, which would place additional burdens on taxpayers (see his article in Res Philosophica). But at least he has not endorsed trillions of dollars in welfare & handouts, the way social-justice “libertarians” such as former Libertarian Party chair Nicholas Sarwark have. Sarwark has endorsed trillions of dollars in handouts as part of his racial-justice, social-justice focus: https://libertyunyielding.com/2023/04/27/libertarian-party-head-attacks-vaccines-lefty-former-lp-head-advocates-trillions-in-welfare-spending/. Sarwark has endorsed massive student loan bailouts this even though student loan bailouts are regressive and would rip off working class taxpayers to subsidize bloated colleges and professionals with high incomes. As the Liberty Unyielding blog pointed out: “Sarwark, the chairman of the Libertarian Party from 2014-2020, has defended Joe Biden’s student loan bailout, which will cost taxpayers at least $427 billion, and perhaps well over $1 trillion. All conservative and libertarian economists think the bailout is a bad idea. So do even many Democratic economists, such as Jason Furman, chairman of President Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, who called Biden’s plan ‘reckless.’ Furman says ‘Pouring roughly half trillion dollars of gasoline on the inflationary fire that is already burning is reckless.’ Biden’s plan will increase inflation, inequality, tuition, and the national debt. Even the liberal Washington Post calls Biden’s student-loan bailout ‘a regressive, expensive mistake.’ The libertarian education scholar Neal McCluskey points out that Biden’s ‘massive debt cancellation will encourage even greater college price increases as schools and future borrowers will both expect more cancellation in the future,’ and Biden’s action is ‘grossly unconstitutional.’ Writing off student loans will encourage colleges to jack up tuition, by making it more attractive to take out big loans to cover college tuition. When students are willing to borrow more to go to college, colleges respond by raising tuition. The Daily Caller reports that ‘each additional dollar in government financial aid translated to a tuition hike of about 65 cents,’ according to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.” https://libertyunyielding.com/2023/04/27/libertarian-party-head-attacks-vaccines-lefty-former-lp-head-advocates-trillions-in-welfare-spending/
So now you're just spamming your lies.
What a silly argument. The difference between the parade of horribles and immigration, is that there is no "right" to immigrate from one country to another, at least not a right that can override legal restrictions enacted by the people in the end country.
The other referenced freedoms are indeed rights, that governments must respect, whether on government or private property.
Bingo. Controlling immigration is 100% libertarian. Opposing controlling immigration is 100% authoritarian. Sorry I'llya
And as a libertarian party activist in the late 70's, I can testify that we understood that you could NOT open the borders while you still had a welfare state.
Open borders were an eventual goal after everything else had been done, and you had a nightwatchman state. It was the very last step in the Libertarian program, because we knew that if it came first, none of the rest of the program would ever happen.
In fact, untrammeled immigration from less free societies is a lot of the reason why the libertarian movement stalled: America became less libertarian on account of it!
Do you expect us to believe you weren’t antisocial, disaffected, autistic, and delusional during the ’70s, too?
Right wing nut jobs trying to tell libertarians what's actually libertarian.
Although there are different ways to conceptualize libertarianism, one of the most fundamental principles of libertarianism is NAP, the Non-Aggression Principle. Stopping people from crossing imaginary lines on the ground violates the NAP. Now, you say, "What about trespassing?" But trespassing involves private property. We're expressly not talking about that.
I'll meet Somin's claim to being a Libertarian and raise. How many times did HE run as a candidate for the LP? I was enough of an activist in the party to have ended up in a conference call with Harry Browne at least once, and met him at a dinner party. Broke my heart when I realized he was playing us.
So, yeah, I'm fairly well qualified to talk about how LP members at least viewed libertarian theory back while I was a member. And I didn't leave because I gave up on libertarian principles, I did it because I'd concluded that the LP was no longer a viable vehicle for advancing them.
I agree that you didn't give up on libertarian principles; you never had them. You perfectly embody Thomas Massie's argument for how someone could go from supporting Paul to supporting Trump:
https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/881603944925081601
Yeah, just because I disagree with you, I couldn't possibly be representative of thought in the party I was a recognized activist in.
The way I went from supporting Paul to supporting Trump, was that the LP has become a joke, and as much as I actually dislike Trump, the Democratic party has an absolute gift for finding people who are actually WORSE than whoever the Democrats puke up.
“The tragedy of the commons” is hauled out in many circumstances to justify government insinuating itself into controlling shared areas.
Yay! Until it gets in the way, as here. Then no government control over common areas.
Libertarians know in an economically free land, the more, the better.
Liberals don’t care about that, as they want to make things less economically free. And some Republicans have thrown in with famous conservatives like Bernie Sanders and Ceasar Chavez in restricting immigration because it undercuts union wages. That’s the story, anyway, and they're sticking to it.
Lessee, did I miss anything?
Oh cool, a new Mrs. Maisel.
Why not?
I sometimes wonder what Somin thinks the purpose of a government is - aside from protecting 'private' HOAs.
Removing illegals from the sight of his fellow travellers in MV.
Shorter Ilya Somin: There is no tragedy of the commons, so it is illiberal to try to prevent it.
" I doubt that many of those who endorse it would grant that the state may prohibit citizens from traveling on public roads with books defending libertarianism in their car. "
That is a really, really stupid reply.
Citizens stand in a different relationship to government than immigrants, and a hugely different relationship than ILLEGAL immigrants. I realize you don't like that, but it's still true.
"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Citizens, and ONLY citizens, are entitled to the privileges and immunities. Non-citizens are only entitled to due process and equal protection.
In case this is confusing you, the only thing that implies for non-citizens is that you have to follow the proper procedure when kicking them out of the country, and until you do that they're equally entitled to have crimes against them prosecuted.
Every other right, every single other right, is reserved, by clear constitutional text, for citizens, and citizens alone. Including the right to even be present in the country in the first place.
The Constitution was not written by people who agreed with you, Somin.
Did he ever explain how Russians don’t have a right to enter Ukraine? Or how one guy living in Ukraine might not have an absolute right to invite a million Russian army friends over for dinner?
Trump can't say whether Ukraine should win (although he loves Putin). Prof. Volokh originally expressed some uncertainty on that point, too -- at least, until he was called on it and changed his tune. A surprising number of Republicans seem sympathetic to Russian interests. Can these points be explained by anything that does not involve un-American, ugly thinking?
Ukraine should, of course, open its borders to all the friendly and curious Russian tourists and migrants. It would be unlibertarian to insist they leave their machine guns, missiles, tanks and so forth back in Russia.
If a government like Ukraine can defend against an invading army, then (in Somin’s professorial words) “they can use that power to suppress a wide range of civil and economic liberties”.
These are awesome arguments, BTW. I wonder if students writing in Somin’s class have to make sense.
Not if they want to pass.
More machine guns, less Somin.
Are you too stupid to understand the difference between invasion and migration, or do you just not care how stupid you look?
The difference is that an invasion is people crossing the border in your direction contrary to law, and migration is them crossing it, period.
So migration is sometimes invasion.
Nope; that's not the difference.
If you could state the difference, then you would. Ultimately there’s no categorical difference between the two sets of unwelcome invaders except what those invaders decide to do.
That is a really, really stupid reply.
You are making an argument about the constitution; Prof. Somin is making an argument about individual rights.
It's an argument about individual rights that is expressly premised on the notion that there's no cognizable difference between the rights of citizens and immigrants. That anything the government is authorized to do to non-citizens entering the country, it automatically is entitled to do to citizens:
"If the government—or a political majority—can restrict access to public property [Here's the key words:] however they wish, they can use that power to suppress a wide range of civil and economic liberties. For example, they could bar travel by critics of the government (or bar the distribution of their writings through public property). They could similarly bar adherents of religions they disapprove of (no more Jews on the roads; or no more Muslims!), and so on."
So I pointed out that the Constitution expressly distinguishes the rights of citizens from the rights of people in general, so that the government being able to restrict use of public property by non-citizens in no way implies that it can similarly restrict that use by citizens.
Somin reasons on the basis of the rights of citizens being exactly the same as everybody else, in terms of legally permissible government policy. This notion is starkly insane, and legally is utter nonsense.
And he damned well knows that.
Right, and so I pointed out that you knee-jerkedly completely misunderstood his post, which has nothing to do with the Constitution. His post is about libertarian principles — the things you know nothing about — not about constitutional interpretation — the other thing you know nothing about.
His post is about what government can legitimately do in the abstract, not about what the U.S. government can do under the U.S. constitution.
Actually, it's a hybrid argument that keeps equivocating between moral and legal.
But it does critically rely on the claim that if the government can forbid anybody at all from using public property, the government can arbitrarily forbid anybody it wants from using it, on any basis it wants.
Which is total nonsense.
And Somin and the rest know it’s nonsense, but are happy to knowingly engage in sophistry because they have a personal preference for a policy they think dishonesty and deception might advance.
The focus on "public" or "private" property is a shill. Neiterh have anythong to do with the issue of illegal fioreign invaders entering and taking over.
The US Constitution harges FedGov with developing the rules for anyone entering the territory of the Untied States. Those rules can, and sometime are, changed. Anyone entering in violation of those rules is illegally here, and is by definition, a "foreign invader". Once anyone has so entered,, that is, unlawfully, they have broken our laws and should be expelled or worse. So WHY the argiment about whether they can/should/might use public or private property? They SHOULD NOT BE HERE to use either. At present we are the only nation on the planet that has such rules and ignores them, freely allowing anyone to enter, uvettred, undocumented, in violation of our laws. And THAT is the problem that MUST be cured.
You holler about "we need more workers". Fine. WHY don't the million of idle citizens go to work? And that does ot even begin to address the root issue there. Want workers? Then WHY have we as a nation killed aboit seventy illions of them since about 1972? Eidddle me THAT one.... and WHY do we refuse to have our schools provide any pathway fpr young chidlren and teens to learn first HOW to work, and second, some trade or skill so tey CAN go to work?I will also mention insane labour laws tht prohibit folks nder certain ages to do anything that even resembles work.
Gonna hurt their widdow psyche".
Well, no, that's true.
Somin thinks that the federal government lacks any constitutional authority to regulate immigration. But, bizarrely, he fails to accept the corollary of that claim: Per the 10th amendment, that would mean the states, instead, possess that power, since the Constitution nowhere denies it to them.
Thinking this position virtually nobody finds reasonable, and which probably has not even one vote in the Supreme court, is solidly established, he's moved on to dealing with potential work-arounds by which the federal government might accomplish immigration control anyway. That's what he's doing her.
1.The article switches among "immigrants", "people", and "citizens". For example:"This is (one reason) why the "public property" objection to freedom of immigration fails—the state may not violate people's freedom of association or movement simply because they happen to make use of public roads." Citizens have freedom of association - immigrants do not; 'people' - are they citizens or immigrants?
2. "If the government—or a political majority—can restrict access.... They could similarly bar adherents of religions they disapprove of (no more Jews on the roads; or no more Muslims!), and so on."
Constitutionally innumerate: The First Amendment would have to be replaced, requiring 2/3 of Congress or the states to initiate, and then 3/4 of each to validate. 2/3 and 3/4 > 1/2 + 1.