The Volokh Conspiracy
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The New York Times Uncovered The Worst-Kept Secret In Academia
Summer study-abroad programs are cushy vacations for students and boondoggles to attract elite faculty.
As a general matter, law professors do not have to teach during the summer. Indeed, we barely teach during the academic year, as compared to virtually all other academic disciplines. The standard load is two lectures classes, plus a small seminar. The only way universities can attract elite faculty to teach in the summer is to situate the classes in exotic locations. Professors, and their families, have most-expenses-paid vacations to foreign cities. Sure, there are a few hours of teaching in the morning. But the rest of the time is free. And those same classes could easily be taught at the home institution. But again, professors would never sacrifice their summer breaks to teach domestically. What about students? Most law schools offer summer classes on this side of the pond. (I took CrimPro and a privacy law seminar during my 1L summer.) But who wants to toil in the heat? It's far more fun to study some esoteric topic in Europe.
Everyone knows these facts. It is not a secret. Indeed, over my career, I've challenged law professors who teach abroad. They insist that these programs are rigorous. So are classes in the United States. They insist that students can build camaraderie. They can do that here as well. They insist that students can be exposed to faculty who do not teach at our institution. Well, now Zoom can do that quite well. Plus, it pains me that students take on more debt to pay for cushy vacations, rather than trying to earn an actual salary over the summer. If I am reviewing a resume, and I see a summer-abroad program, I immediately think the person made a poor decision of how to spend the 2L summer.
I'm sure I'm an outlier. Plenty of professors who benefit from these programs love them. Same for administrators who tag along on the trips! Plus all students love vacations with academic credit. Rant over.
This background brings me to the latest breathless reporting in the New York Times. Now, the newspaper of record has focused on my alma mater, the Scalia Law School. The article is long. Really long. But the upshot is that George Mason has placed a priority on recruiting Justices Thomas, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh to teach at summer study programs. Shocker! A DC law school works hard to connect its students with the leaders of the profession. My own law school has organized similar programs in the past with Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Ginsburg. (My students described it as a once-in-a-lifetime experience.) So have countless other law schools. The only reason this story exists is because GMU is subject to FOIA. I'd love to look through the efforts at Harvard, Yale, and other elite private schools to recruit the Justices. There is also an issue lurking under the surface. Elite institutions can no longer invite conservative Justices. So Mason, as well as Notre Dame have filled that gap.
Moreover, I am scratching my head at the apparent conspiracy between GMU study-abroad program and GMU clinics that file amicus briefs. Does anyone really think that Justice Gorsuch is more likely to read an amicus brief from a GMU clinic because he taught several GMU students in a clinic? The reason why conservative justices read amicus briefs by conservative scholars is because they find those ideas persuasive. And Mason punches far above its weight class with regard to prominent conservative scholars. Does anyone think elite Supreme Court clinics at Harvard or Stanford are tainted because of the close connections those institutions have with the Justices? Indeed, those clinics actually argue cases, and do not just file amicus briefs destined for the circular file.
D.C. is--for lack of better words--an incestuous swamp. Everyone "knows" everyone else. And there is a nonstop effort by people with less power to try to gain access to people with more power. When you meet someone in D.C., the first question you are asked is "What do you do?" They are not curious about what you do. They want to know if you can provide them with more influence. The Times fails to place any of these allegations in context. Everything is about the one law school that proudly extolls its conservative connections. This sort of journalistic paint-by-numbers fails to ever substantiate their claims. It's only enough to raise some concerns, and hope uninformed readers fill in the gaps on their own.
Nothing to see here. Wait till the next empty shoe drops.
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I still can’t believe Trump was such a little bitch to outsource judicial appointments to swamp creatures like Leo and McGahn and McConnell…and he even let McGahn appoint George W Bush’s buttboy, Kavanaugh, after McGahn refused to fire Mueller. Oh well, big flappy pussy gonna pussy out. I bet Blackman was masturbating to photos of these 3 hacks when Trump nominated them for SCOTUS. ????
Btw, I know all of these Volokh professors are Republican operatives of varying degree…but I would love to know how operatives like McGahn and Louie Gohmert are given orders?? So does a person like James Baker call them up and nicely ask them to do something and say if it doesn’t work out a powerful Republican will take care of them? How do you get Gohmert to pretend to be a Trump Republican and then give up a safe seat in Congress in order to help George W Bush attempt to defeat AG Paxton? And how do you get McGahn to infiltrate the Trump campaign just to get Republican hacks on the Supreme Court??
Why did Trump outsource judicial appointments, first he is lazy and second there is no money in it for him. If people were paying for judicial appointments President Trump would have been much more hands on.
Trump is the only president that will admit to mistakes fairly quickly…Trump basically believes everything he did was a mistake other than surrendering to the Taliban and a few other foreign policy decisions and Operation Warp Speed. It’s hilarious how his supporters continue to support him! But they are a very gullible group of people.
Granted all that, how great was it that that selfish, lying Jew bitch lusted for power so much that she couldn’t bring herself to step down before she croaked?
SBF was a shill for your country’s blue team. How much stolen money went directly from his ‘hedge fund’ into campaigns for that party’s totalitarian-Jacobin power grabs, Yankee Doodle dipshit?
Every President outsources judicial appointments. Why should Trump be any different? Because of his deep knowledge of the legal profession and the federal judiciary?
Students have the option to pay for a thing that isn’t directly related to optimizing their professional desirability?
How terrible!
And then demand WE pay for it!
No, they pay.
Not going to get a Perkins loan to go to Chili for a semester.
Chile?
Chili’s.
Chili’s law is an esoteric but rewarding discipline.
Chili's law is rewarding? Well, could be Starbuck's law....
At least they are attempting to create educated lawyers instead of just hiring halfwits from Regent Law School. Gee, I wonder why the Bush administration was full of incompetent assclowns?? I guess we will never know.
George Jetson: "Ahhhhh...these 2 hour work days are killing me."
I'm glad someone is finally living the dream.
Grifters. Money-grubbing grifters. The justices make more than a quarter-million dollars a year, and they will continue to do so every year for the rest of their lives. If I can afford an occasional trip to Europe, then so can Gorsuch and the rest of the gang. At what point in their lives to these people begin to think they're entitled to freebies and special consideration? (I'm thinking of you, Clarence.) Just do your damn jobs -- which consist of judging, not teaching -- and stop trying to pretend you're special.
An aside. An edit of that works well for Josh on most of his posts:
Just do your damn job — which consist of teaching, not judging — and stop trying to pretend you’re special.
As to the one conservative school having special access to the Federalist Society Justices, that’s not really surprising or avoidable.
It’s not a great sign of the times they think Justices will be partisan in their choices.
Not sure if they are right, either. Law students are not as activist as this blog indicates, so thenJustices have choices other than the explicitly partisan ask here.
"As to the one conservative school having special access to the Federalist Society Justices"
You really need to actually think and research about what you say. Because you're wrong just so often...
https://www.tulanelink.com/pdf/Tulane_and_Alito.pdf
As goes Tulane so goes the nation?
You do have a habit of slamming in an utterly irrelevant post and declaring victory when you are just failing to grasp some basic way arguments are constructed,
In this case, I recommend you read to the end of the OP and try again.
"Elite institutions can no longer invite conservative Justices."
Why not? All the schools are too left wing now?
Yes.
Didn’t you see the bit about Yale not hanging the portrait of Thomas? (But Sotomayor’s is up in a prominent place.j
Wow that is some trivial nonsense you are angry about.
He's quite angry. Just observe, like scientists do with mice
This is just another symptom of the absurd federal government policy of giving out trillions of dollars to "academia" under the guise of "student loans."
I didn’t do a semester abroad, but it was a charge above and beyond tuition and books at my school. I don’t know that federal loans are involved.
In case you haven't heard, money is fungible.
This really makes me disappointed in the NYT. There are serious questions that are worth asking about the ability of rich schools to pay to gain closer access to the justices. I don't think the justices are going to change their votes because an advocate had a connection to a school that paid the justice to spend a cushy summer teaching in Europe, but I'm sure having a justice teach you helps you understand how they think and how to appeal to them (in turn making your graduates more desierable). And that seems like an issue that's worth having a public discussion about.
Yet, despite the fact that the article itself acknowledges that other schools do this (as well as liberal justices) apparently they feel the need to frame it as some partisan issue about GMU and conservatives.
This is an extremely far-fetched hypothesis. Firms with Supreme Court practices hire former clerks, not former seminar participants. The insight that one gains into a justice in a handful of classes is nothing compared to what you get spending a year in chambers.
In any event, there's nothing wrong with some advocates having a better understanding of what the justices find persuasive. The level playing field of the courtroom simply requires that judges not have personal bias.
As the NYT article occassionally admitted, lots of other law schools have been trying to woo the Justices (and appelate judges when they can’t get them) with gigs that are close to paid vacations, and lots of Justices (and not just the conservatives) have taken part. Congress or Court might want to rein it in. But Harvard, Yale, etc. did it for years, and George Mason simply happens have been more successful at it lately than some others.
The difference recently is largely that the Court’s most conservative Justices are no longer so welcome in places like Harvard of Yale. And this gives institutions like George Mason (and Notre Dame) an opening they might not have otherwise had.
I do doubt that the conservative justices are no longer welcome at Harvard or Yale.
Maybe they are - students are known for being strident and entitled at those places. But I’d bet that’s a loud minority.
Surely, you jest = I do doubt that the conservative justices are no longer welcome at Harvard or Yale.
Is your memory so short, Sarcastr0? Hard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, Columbia have all had multiple instances of demonstrated antipathy toward conservatives. How quickly they forget.
Sarcastr0, for your next checkup, make sure that PCP gives you the number test to check memory function, ok? 😛
First, the law school is not the university.
Second, reason loves to magnify anecdotes, but don't be fooled by their confirmation bias.
Perhaps the difference is that while Harvard, Yale, et al are well endowed, they do not have Charles Koch, Barre Seid, et al pumping money into current activities.
"This background brings me to the latest breathless reporting in the New York Times. Now, the newspaper of record has focused on my alma mater, the Scalia Law School. The article is long. Really long. "
When a NYT or WaPo article is longer than two swipes down on my iPad, I wait for some pundit to summarize it for me elsewhere. Thanks, Josh!
It's breathtaking when Josh clutches pearls. Worth the price of admission
This post reads like it's from some professor at a law school located in an office building in downtown Houston, who never gets invited on a lecture junket no more exotic than Cleveland or Liberty U
Your post reads like partisan bullshit from someone who wishes anyone cared what you think.
I sympathize with your frustration, Gandydancer. My comments are some of the most unassailable in this blog. Like yourself, most here sputter with paroxysms of impotent rage because they can't think of something intelligent to say.
I think it is wrong for the New York Times to imply Thomas works at George Mason to avail himself of free travel and outside influence. His Daddy takes care of that elsewhere.
It is interesting to read about the incestuous nature of Washington, because I wonder where that is not the case? When you read advise to young people starting in business what is one of the top things networking. Why do you go to professional conferences to meet people who do things like what you do. The people in Washington do the same thing as people do all over, at a higher level, but the same thing. Is it fair, no. But life isn't fair.
Success in the legal profession depends on (in this order):
1. connections
2. money on hand (so that you’re not forced to take a shit job just to survive)
3. luck
4. good work ethic
5. ability (intelligence, creativity, good writing skills)
6. legal knowledge
So how many Blackman posts does this make of him defending Thomas without - you know - actually defending Thomas? First came the Long Silence, in which our favorite SCOUS gossip ignored the topic altogether.
Then came his closest approach, a long quote of Judge Ho's defense without personal comment added. Everything else since has been oblique sideways jujitsu, dancing around the subject.
All of which puzzles the jaded Blackman-watcher of this forum. Because plenty of Right-types with a less courtier-oriented mindset had zero qualms about brazenly excusing Thomas. Can Blackman be slowly developing a conscience?
Study abroad...as seen from the payee perspective, yeah me! (note: my child did a study abroad semester).
Bottom line: I would pay for it again in a heartbeat. It is not about the academics, it is about the cultural exposure and who you meet. Also, as a parent, you realize your child will need to be resourceful. That makes for an introspective moment, let me assure you.
If you have the means, and your child is capable of acting independently, I would recommend the study abroad option without reservation. Every case is unique, but speaking from a parental perspective, I am so glad we did this for our child. It was worth it, on balance.
Agreed whole-heartedly! I admit I just stopped reading the article at the line that studying abroad is a waste of time, because it's so obviously and hilariously wrong that I don't really feel I can take anything else the article says seriously. Travel broadens the mind. You get exposure to different cultures, different ways of thinking, and a different way of life, plus the historical benefits of most of the places where study abroad is located. A study abroad program is often the first opportunity a student has had to go overseas, and for some the only chance they ever have. It's invaluable. Don't stay inside your little bubble and insist there's nothing you can see anywhere else you can't get there. You can find substitutes if you have no other choice, but they don't come close to the real thing.