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When Are Slurs and Vulgarities Defamation?
The Mississippi Court of Appeals splits 5-4 on the subject.
From Fagan v. Faulkner, decided Tuesday by the Court of Appeals of Mississippi, in an opinion by Chief Justice Donna Barnes, joined by Judges Jim Greenlee, Anthony Lawrence, Joel Smith, and John Emfinger (expurgations in original):
Judy Faulkner sued Dr. Bryan Fagan for defamation of character and intentional infliction of emotional distress in the County Court of Lee County. At the time of the incident at issue, Faulkner was a surgical scheduler at the center where Dr. Fagan, an orthopaedic surgeon, worked in Tupelo, Mississippi. The suit arose from a one-time outburst Dr. Fagan had in the operating room where he called Faulkner a "f––king c-nt" ("FC") in front of approximately four other individuals after the parties had an argument over surgical scheduling.
After a bench trial, the county court entered a judgment in favor of Faulkner for $30,000 on the defamation claim of slander. Dr. Fagan appealed, and the Lee County Circuit Court affirmed the county court's judgment. Now, on appeal before this Court, we find the elements of slander were not met; therefore, we reverse and render the circuit court's judgment….
The trial court's ruling that the elements of falsity (unprivileged due to malice) and actionability were met was based on the finding that Dr. Fagan used the words as commentary on Faulkner's job performance. We do not find that to be the case.
"The common law has always differentiated sharply between genuinely defamatory communications as opposed to obscenities, vulgarities, insults, epithets, name-calling, and other verbal abuse." "Such statements may be hurtful to the listener and are to be discouraged, but … are not actionable" "no matter how obnoxious, insulting, or tasteless." … The Mississippi Supreme Court has recognized that "name calling and verbal abuse are to be taken as statements of opinion, not fact, and therefore will not give rise to an action for libel." …
No evidence showed that Dr. Fagan called Faulkner this expletive because he was disparaging her professional capabilities. Dr. Fagan testified that he did "[n]ot necessarily" use the words because he did not like how she performed her job; instead, he "was upset about the situation that happened, and that was just what I said." He testified that he "was not happy that the cases didn't get switched. That was the whole point of the argument." He later testified, "I don't think I was making a generalized statement at that point about how she overall does her job…. I think it was more … about that situation…. That I don't think it was handled correctly." He also testified that he was upset and embarrassed by what he said, that he should not have said it, and that he has not used that language since then….
[An] analogous case is Tipping v. Martin, No. 3:15-cv-2951-BN, 2016 WL 397088 (N.D. Tex. Feb. 2, 2016). In Tipping, an off-duty journalist had an altercation with a sculptor at an art festival.. The female journalist took photographs of artwork without the permission of the sculptor, who became upset. He told her the sculpture was protected by copyright and demanded she delete the photographs from her digital camera. She refused and showed him her press badge. The sculptor became irate and "shouted that 'if' [she] was a journalist, she was a 'whore, cunt journalist slut.'" He continued to repeatedly shout this statement, "whereupon [the journalist] displayed her middle finger to Defendant, who took a picture of same." Ultimately, the journalist lost her job due to the photograph of her middle finger.. The journalist sued the sculptor for numerous claims including defamation, but the district court granted the defendant-sculptor's motion to dismiss. The defendant argued that the insulting statement was one of opinion, not fact, and did not rise to the level of defamation. The district court looked at the context of the statement and reasoned that although "cunt" may impute an unchaste female, under the circumstances the insult was not "intended to be taken literally as statements of fact." The district court noted the sculptor had no knowledge of "her personal life or the quality of her work as a journalist." The district court concluded that "[p]urely subjective assertions or opinions that do not imply the existence of undisclosed facts and do not misconstrue the facts are not actionable as defamation. … '[T]he law provides no redress for harsh name-calling.'" {In our case, Faulkner has made no claim that Dr. Fagan was attempting to impute an unchaste character to her.} …
Judge David Neil McCarty, joined by Presiding Judge Virginia Carlton, Judge Latrice Westbrooks, and Judge Deborah McDonald, dissented:
[Q.] Okay. In an operating room, you made an offensive comment about Judy Faulkner, correct?
[A.] I made the statement that we were talking about.
[Q.] You called her a fucking cunt?
[A.] Yes.
[Q.] That's because you couldn't flip your surgeries around, correct?
[A.] I was upset about not being able to change the order of the cases.
– Dr. Bryan Fagan (during trial of this matter on July 21, 2021).
Nearly a century of law allows a Mississippian to file a lawsuit against another when there is "any attack on the capabilities of a plaintiff in [her] trade or profession." … This does not mean that all words are actionable; our court system does not exist to safeguard hurt feelings or to shield delicate ears. But when the words used can damage another's ability to do business, or their reputation for business, we have allowed a lawsuit to go forward….
[T]he background here is largely uncontested. Dr. Bryan Fagan wanted to swap patients one day so he could use a preferred machine for shoulder surgery. But he had a knee reconstruction scheduled first. The doctor wanted to do the operations in the order he wanted, not how they were scheduled by the nurse at the clinic.
The nurse in charge of scheduling, Judy Faulkner, flatly told him the surgeries would not be rearranged at his whim. Dr. Fagan later testified:
I was upset at the situation of not being able to switch my cases. And in that discussion with Ms. Faulkner, when I was made aware I would not be able to switch them, I asked her to go tell the family that they would have to wait. And I was told no.
The doctor further told the trial court he sometimes had a problem with the way Faulkner scheduled his surgeries. "It's all up to Judy," he lamented.
So after the blunder with the surgeries—and after the nurse told him that she would not tell the patients they would have to wait—the doctor pitched a fit. Dr. Fagan testified "the 'C' word was being talked about in surgery, and that's when I made the comment about Judy."
[Q.] So you said it – –
[A.] It was my opinion. Just – –
[Q.] So you stated that Ms. Judy was a cunt to many other people?
[A.] There were four or five people in the room.
[Q.] And you specifically said Ms. Judy Faulkner whenever you were using the word cunt?
[A.] I used her first name, yes.
[Q.] Because you didn't like how she performed her job; is that correct?
[A.] Not necessarily. I was upset about the situation that had happened, and that was just what I said….
[A.] I was not happy that the cases didn't get switched. That was the whole point of the argument….
This wasn't someone just screaming vulgarities at someone online, or a firefighter saying another was a thief. These were work colleagues, in the workplace, and it was about work, and reasonable minds could believe that the doctor was commenting adversely on the professional conduct of the nurse. As counsel for the nurse argued in closing before the county court, "This isn't about the use of the 'C' word and the F'ing 'C' word so much as it is about her being able to do her job." … [I]t was reasonable [given the evidence at trial] for the trial court to infer the intent of Fagan's statement as referencing Faulkner's abilities within her profession. Upon that finding rested the circuit court's conclusion that "there existed sufficient evidence for the trial court to find that Fagan's statements were not simply vulgarities, or profanities, but were actionable under the law for slander, irrespective of special harm." …
Congratulations to Mark Nolan Halbert and Brandi Elizabeth Soper, who represent appellant.
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Most women deserve to be called FCs. In a better time, men didn't tolerate women screwing up or mouthing off.
The one who "screwed up" was the Fucking Asshole Bone-man (in Medicine we don't consider Orthopods to be actual "Surgeons" (ask any Real Surgeon)
and Surgeons have this "Captain of the Ship" philosophy where they're in charge of everything,
Oh, except the bleeding, that's the Anesthesiologist's fault, or the Bloodbanks, for not anticipating the Bloodletting, and it's always too hot, too cold, musics too loud, not loud enough,
or the Postoperative Pulmonary Embolism (have an Orthopedic Procedure coming up? Google "Fat embolism" first) and then they're little fucking pussies with the families, "Uhh, I can't do anything, it's up to Anesthesia...."
OK, the Women Orthopods are even worse (they do tend to be hot thought, that whole "Former Ath-uh-letes go into Ortho)
and they're not stupid, Ortho requires some of the highest grades/Board Scores (remember Board Scores? it's going to Pass/Fail)
Frank "What's the difference between a Clever midget and Chlamydia??"
"One is a cunning runt, the other is a running cunt. "
First comment, and predictably so.
Said by a former "FC" (so simple even a Demented Jerry Sandusky should get it)
@Artie: You are a fucking cunt.
So sue me.
Why was this even 5-4? Dissent is ridiculous. Where the hell is free speech going in this country?
"Where the hell is free speech going in this country?"
Oh yes, what would we do without the "right" of calling a woman disgusting slurs.
Madison must be so, so mad.
If the shoe fits. Most women are disgusting people. I'm lucky to have found one of the few traditional women left.
"Traditional Women"
do they come with a "Traditional" Vagina or a "Neo" one??
Shockingly, the racist anti-semite is an incel.
WOW!
Look everyone, Bob's clutching his imitation pearls!
This has nothing to do with gender, and everything to do with the right to express your opinion as protected by the First Amendment.
Do you enjoy being on the wrong side of everything, or is it just a deficiency of yours since birth?
1A is for political speech, not this.
That is the level of legal insight I would expect from a guy whose career apex has been proofreading $27,000 residential deeds in Can't Keep Up, Ohio, decades after graduating from law school.
I am not saying there is anything wrong with the type of work Bob from Ohio performs. That type of work was performed at my law firm. For my clients.
By paralegals.
That is a blatantly incorrect understanding of the First Amendment.
It has never been interpreted to only protect political speech.
You are a terrible lawyer.
He did the same as calling her a bitch, which also would have nothing to do with how many men she fucks.
I-ANAL but even I'm smart enough to know about the "Fighting Words" exception to the first ammendment
from the Cornhole U website
"Fighting words are words meant to incite violence such that they may not be protected free speech under the First Amendment. The U.S. Supreme Court first defined them in Chaplinsky v New Hampshire (1942) as words which "by their very utterance, inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality."
Frank
"Fighting words" don't get 1A protection, but if use on you they don't give you the right to sue for defamation either.
sounds like part of ongoing bad blood with the scheduler from past scheduling errors. Many, if not most, orthopedic docs like to schedule the surgeries in order of complexity, harder/longer surgeries first in the day with easier surgeries later in the day.
That Mississippi law that allows a cause of action for disparaging comments is vastly too broad. "Nearly a century of law allows a Mississippian to file a lawsuit against another when there is "any attack on the capabilities of a plaintiff in [her] trade or profession."
Seems to cover almost every common employment related discussion of employee performance.
Lot of experience scheduling surgeries?
A few sports injuries - acl's etc - along with surgeons as clients. The surgery scheduling I described is fairly routine across many, if not most, surgery centers.
So that's a "NO" it's like saying because I fly every week I understand
how Airlines schedule flights. Its (Scheduling Surgery and Flights is more complicated than that, that's why Surgeons/Pilots don't do it)
Now, there IS this concept called "MAFOT" (Mandatory Anesthesia Fuckoff Time) the time between cases where Anesthesia fucks off (you know, cleaning up after the last case, unless you like having a used Endotracheal tube down your throat)
Frank
This case had no right to be this close at this level of appeal. Glad it was decided correctly in the end.
I was surprised this was a close call. Then I remembered the various laws that, as applied, make it a felony to say a bad word during a misdemeanor. We don't value free speech so much these days.
I too am surprised at the closeness of this case - especially since it's out of Mississippi.
You'd think folks in MS (where the law provides no redress for harsh name-calling), would be accustomed to people yelling "Nigger!," "Kike!," or whatever the current fashionable perjorative is.
Just can't help yourself, can you?
He thinks he's tolerant but he is as bigoted as any Klanner.
Funny, never been to Mississippi. Spent most of my time in NY and NJ. Heard plenty of those perjoratives. Even had pennies thrown at me on my way to synagogue. I guess stereotypes are just another way to advance one's political agenda.
I'm trying to bring back "Spook" nobody seems to get it, but I'm not giving up, who knew what a "Cracker" was 20 years ago? Not quite the same level as resurrecting the Hebrew language, but it's up there.
Why not spear chucker?
Wasn't that from Mash (the movie)?
Yes, Hawkeye requested a Neurosurgeon, Dr. Oliver Harmon Jones, AKA "Spear Chucker" (He threw the Javelin in College)
was also a pro Football player, came in handy for their game against the other M*A*S*H,
one of the other Surgeons Dr. Nathan Bedford "Duke" Forrest commented, "Oh he's that Colored boy, he's GOOD!"
Yes I've seen that movie a few times, inspired me to be a Surgeon, then a Gas Passer when I found out it was a much easier, I mean, easier lifestyle (easier and Mo' money what a combo)
Frank
Can we have a show of hands, please? Does anyone who follows this blog believe that "Dr." Drackman is anything other than a lonely, ignorant teenager eating junk food in his mother's basement? But don't despair, Doc, I hear the chat group Thug Shaker Central is looking for some new members. As a moronic, foul-mouthed bigot you seem to meet all the qualifications.
Yeah, right, like any teenager today knows any movie released before 2010 (Saw M*A*S*H at the Ellsworth AFB Theater 1971 when I was 9 (rated "R" mom and dad took me(too cheap to get a babysitter)
which makes me umm, 60.
Do like the junk food, and it's my basement thank you very little,
Frank
Now do SarcastrO.
Sorry, but I only do moronic, foul-mouthed bigots.
Thats what she said!!!!!
You do moron very well.
Don't you have a boy to be grooming with RAK?
No and neither of us have ever had a notion about such a disgusting practice.
You on the other hand bring up the topic almost daily.
Hey, it’s almost like it’s not 1962 anymore. The vast majority of Mississippians aren’t walking around yelling any pejoratives at all.
Yeah! This is the tenth anniversary of Mississippi's most recent segregated prom . . . so far as we know.
Rev, segregation is making a comeback, lead by progressive college kids. Aren’t they part of your….hell, I can’t remember your schtick. Your alliance of people that your bigotry tells you are superior. Whatever your label is.
Aren’t these neo-segregationists part of your ingroup?
segregation is making a comeback, lead by progressive college kids
Once again, you say things with great certainty that are utterly untrue, based on the biased sample of anecdotes you get from reason et al.
I work with HBCU's, and there are plenty of white students there. You'd think if segregation were making a comeback, it'd start there.
Yeah, because an Average White Student (Average White Band? were they really a band? sounds like an SNL bit) is automatically top 5% at any HBUC (Academically, not in Rapping, Jiving, Moonwalking (Ironic that no Afro-Amurican has walked on the moon), Vertical jump) Same with the HBUC Med Schools, and nobody gives a fuck where you went once you Grad-jew-ma-cate, I just tell people I went to school in "LA" (Lower Alabama)
Frank
Nice try, but nobody except weirdos like you thinks first of HBCUs when thinking of “progressive college kids”.
https://www.blackenterprise.com/western-washington-university-implements-segregated-black-only-student-housing/https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/segregation-or-sanctuary-black-only-university-housing-draws-criticism/
The Reverend Jerry Sandusky ladies & gentlemen, follower of Proms.
You go to them alot Jerry??
Frank
Actually I hear alot more of that in New Yawk than in Georgia (Admittedly, closest I get to the Mississippi Delta is 35, 000 feet on a Delta jet)
Frank
"... or whatever the current fashionable pe
rjorative is.That would be “Racist!”
The dissent just wants to punish being mean. They're ignoring that calling someone a name because you're pissed at the decision they just made doesn't mean you're commenting on their overall ability to perform their job. All you're saying is "I disagree with your decision" in a rude way. That's an opinion.
I would tell the dissenters what I think of their analysis, but it might get me sued for defamation.
Even if he were commenting on her professional abilities rather than just expressing general anger at the situation, how could it be anything other than opinion? I am pretty sure that the statement he made is not capable of being proven true or false.
It’s pretty simple. If the target is a right thinker and part of a protected class, it’s hate speech. If the target is a right thinker, it’s defamation. If the target is a wrong thinker, it’s free speech.
"Who made you Judge Judy and scheduler?"
Six judges in Mississippi thought this met the elements of defamation?
Maybe Arthur Kirkland is on to something.
The defamation claim seems unpersuasive.
But this case involves Mississippi, so . . .
Better people will want to, and will tend to, work in contexts in which a doctor's unprofessional and old-timey comments are seen to reflect more poorly on the doctor than on the target.
But this case involves Mississippi, so . . . .
Did the defense try to gather evidence in order to demonstrate that the nurse was indeed a fucking cunt?
One can be well skilled at one's job and still be a fucking cunt, for reasons of personal animus or inherent disposition. For example, "Jane is the most skilled nurse in the building, totally adept at her profession. But when it comes to scheduling surgeries, she's obstinate. She can be a real fucking cunt." Or: "Cecilia is one helluva pilot. There's no one better. But once she's in the cockpit, she can be a really fucking cunt when it comes to working with her co-pilot. Granted, she's worked with some dicks over the years, and some of the vitriol against them is deserved. But even when the guy's not a dick, she can still be a fucking cunt."
I was very confused until I got well into the excerpt. I couldn't figure out what was so terribly insulting about calling someone a "fucking cent" to imply that they were worth very little.
Your comment would have been improved by using "flaking cent"; a corroded penny would indeed be of little value.
But Eugene was at pains to reassure you that the expurgation was not his, and given his past practices, you could expect to enjoy the vulgarities later in the post.
“…The district court looked at the context of the statement and reasoned that although “cunt” may impute an unchaste female, under the circumstances the insult was not “intended to be taken literally as statements of fact.”…”
This was, linguistically, a really weird statement. Especially since the term in question was (paraphrasing): whore, cunt journalist slut. Slut, of course, refers to a person’s sexual activities. Whore, certainly does. But I’ve never seen ‘cunt’ used in that way. I’ve only seen it used (in America) as a horrible way of referring to a woman–an even more crude term than ‘bitch.’ I always thought they were ways of saying, “You’re a woman, and you’re a bad person…or you’re at least behaving badly.”
I can speak only to what I’ve observed on the West Coast, and the northern East Coast. Are there parts of America where “c___” on its own means a woman who is inappropriately sexually active? That would surprise me.
It's totally confusing to me that a court would focus on the one insulting worth that, to me, *clearly* is doesn't relate to sexual activity, while totally ignoring the two words (whore & slut) that obviously imply sexual behavior. I feel like I'm missing something here.
When Are Slurs and Vulgarities Defamation?
Depends on whether a reasonable person would see a slur or vulgarity as a baseless insult or as an actual accusation, you dirty old egg-sucking dog.
It's not in evidence that the denigration was baseless.
A defamatory statement must be false, which requires that it be capable of being shown to be either true or false. Is the statement "X is a f*****g c**t" false? Does it assert a proposition that has a truth value? How does someone show that X is, or is not, a "f*****g c**t"? How is "f*****g c**t" different, in this respect, from "a**h**e?"
Is this the Bizarro VC?? Cause usually you have a bunch of Woke Ho-Mo's rending their garments because a mentally disturbed woman was referred to as "She" instead of the inaccurate (fortunately She wasn't that accurate either) "He" or even woker "They",
Speaking of mentally disturbed Cunts, (HT 1st Ammendment) when is her "Manifesto" gonna be released, almost like there's something in it they don't want us to read...
See you next Tuesday.