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Does the First Amendment Bar Public Schools from Removing School Library Books Based on Their Viewpoints?
The Supreme Court split on this 4-4 in 1982, and the matter remains unsettled.
The question came before the Court in Bd. of Ed. v. Pico, and four Justices (led by Justice Brennan) took the view that "local school boards may not remove books from school library shelves simply because they dislike the ideas contained in those books." Four other Justices (led by Chief Justice Burger) expressly rejected this view (except in the narrow situation where the disagreement was based on pure partisanship, for instance if a Democrat-run board removed books because they were written by Republicans or because they praised Republicans). And the swing vote, Justice White, expressly refused to opine on this issue:
The plurality … issue[s] a dissertation on the extent to which the First Amendment limits the discretion of the school board to remove books from the school library. I see no necessity for doing so at this point….
[This case] poses difficult First Amendment issues in a largely uncharted field. We should not decide constitutional questions until it is necessary to do so, or at least until there is better reason to address them than are evident here.
Justice White concurred with Justice Brennan's opinion solely as to the propriety of remanding for a trial on whether the school board removed the books based on viewpoint or instead based on their being "in essence, vulgar" (which even the challengers "implicitly conceded" would be a permissible basis for removing the books, at least if they "were pervasively vulgar"). But he disagreed with Justice Brennan on the consequence of any such finding:
- Justice Brennan's view was that, if there was a finding that the removals were based on viewpoint, that would mean the removals violated the First Amendment.
- Justice White's view as that, if there was such a finding, "there will be time enough to address the First Amendment issues that may then be presented" (which echoes his conclusion that he saw "no necessity for" resolving those questions in his opinion).
What about lower courts? Two federal appellate courts have characterized the Brennan opinion as expressing the view of the Court, see Monteiro v. Tempe Union High School Dist. (9th Cir. 1998) and Turkish Coalition of Am., Inc. v. Bruininks (8th Cir. 2012).
But three other federal appellate courts have disagreed, and have recognized—I think correctly—that Pico didn't resolve the issue; e.g., Griswold v. Driscoll (1st Cir. 2010):
Pico's rule of decision, however, remains unclear; three members of the plurality recognized and emphasized a student's right to free enquiry in the library, but Justice Blackmun disclaimed any reliance on location and resorted to a more basic principle that a state may not discriminate among ideas for partisan or political reasons, and Justice White concurred in the judgment without announcing any position on the substantive First Amendment claim.
Likewise with Muir v. Alabama Ed. Television Comm'n (5th Cir. 1982), which concluded that in Pico "the Supreme Court decided neither the extent nor, indeed, the existence [or nonexistence], of First Amendment implications in a school book removal case," because "[t]he Fifth Member of the Court [Justice White] voting for the judgment expresses no opinion on the First Amendment issues." And likewise with ACLU of Florida v. Miami-Dade County School Bd. (11th Cir. 2009), which noted that the view that "school officials may not remove books from library shelves 'simply because they dislike the ideas contained in those books and seek by their removal to prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion'" was "the standard that failed to attract a majority in the Pico case."
The matter, then, is not clear. Lower courts may indeed themselves decide that viewpoint-based removals of books from school libraries violate the First Amendment, and they may find Justice Brennan's opinion to be persuasive. And schools may reasonably worry that this might happen, and might conclude that it's better to avoid that litigation. (Prof. Justin Driver so suggests, in Tony Mauro's recent Freedom Forum column.) But courts and schools may instead conclude otherwise, and be more persuaded by Chief Justice Burger's dissent.
My own view is more in line with the dissent: I think a public school is entitled to decide which viewpoints to promote through its own library; school authorities can decide that their library will be a place where they provide books they recommend as particularly interesting/useful/enlightening/etc. The process of selecting library books is part of the government's own judgment about what views it wishes to promote; and the ability to reconsider selection decisions (including in response to pressure from the public, which is to say from the ultimate governors of the public schools) should go with the ability to make those decisions in the first place. To be sure, some such decisions may be foolish or narrow-minded, but they're not unconstitutional.
Note, by the way, that this is all just about public school library books. Decisions to remove books or topics from public school curricula wouldn't be precluded even under Justice Brennan's opinion; that opinion noted that "Respondents do not seek in this Court to impose limitations upon their school Board's discretion to prescribe the curricula of the Island Trees schools," and added (in a part that got three votes),
We are … in full agreement with [the school board] that local school boards must be permitted "to establish and apply their curriculum in such a way as to transmit community values," and that "there is a legitimate and substantial community interest in promoting respect for authority and traditional values be they social, moral, or political." …
Petitioners might well defend their claim of absolute discretion in matters of curriculum by reliance upon their duty to inculcate community values.
And the dissenting four Justices were even more firm on this point about school board control over the curriculum. (The question whether the Establishment Clause limits school authority over including religious topics or excluding topics that are perceived as antireligious is a separate matter; I'm speaking here of non-religion-related curriculum choices.)
[I wrote about this last year, but the issue remains much in the news, so I thought I'd repost my analysis; I've added the "My own view" paragraph.]
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It’s interesting to me how the First Amendment scholar working at a public university has very firm views on things like speech codes, exposing students to traumatizing content, providing forums for hate speech, and diversity statements, but is much less pressed when it comes to boring, humdrum-type questions like “free and open inquiry.”
Don’t forget creating safe spaces for bigots on campuses, at private online communities, etc.
The books included Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, The Fixer by Bernard Malamud, Go Ask Alice by Anonymous, Black Boy by Richard Wright, and A Hero Ain’t Nothin’ but a Sandwich by Alice Childress.
The basis of the case:
In the fall of 1975, a New York school board received a complaint from a community group, Parents of New York United. The complaint asserted that school policies on library books were too “permissive.” Specifically, the parent group complained about nine books, including Kurt Vonnegut’s Slaughterhouse-Five and Langston Hughes’s Best Short Stories by Negro Writers. The group said the books were “anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-Semitic and just plain filthy.” In response, the school district removed the books in February of 1976.
JFTR, so we understand what “community values,” and “traditional values” were being protected here.
I’m not familiar with the others but I liked Slaughterhouse when I read it as a 14 - 15 year old. But it does have naked Montana Wildhack in it, so there were prudes that would have objected. Fortunately my mother wasn’t one of them.
This is a battle between the overzealous indoctrinators and the overzealous prudes. There plenty of books that comfortably fit between the two and capable people that could figure out where reasonable boundaries should be, unfortunately none of them ever seem to be involved.
Concur - as long as the prudes or the woke arent trying indoctrinate them either through forced reading or censorship. People need to read what interests them.
This is a battle between the overzealous indoctrinators and the overzealous prudes.
Not sure I agree. I don't see the indoctrination in these titles specifically. Nor do I think the objectors were necessarily motivated by prudishness. I suspect they didn't like what might be some unflattering pictures of race in America.
I too read Slaughterhouse Five and liked it. I'm guessing they think it's somehow "anti-American." I read "The Fixer" too and can't imagine what the objection could be. It would be interesting to hear the specific complaints against the various books.
I have no idea what the solution to this problem is. Someone has to pick the books, after all. I am puzzled by one thing. The books were removed from the library. But how did they get there in the first place? Somebody thought they were good material for the students to read and I'm going to guess whoever thought so wasn't putting hard-core pornography on the shelf, but rather making some sort of informed decision.
Well, they don’t have to be pushing against each other in every single case. Although the indoctrinators embolden the prudes, the prudes have been at it quite a bit longer. Like for decades. Explains the case you cite.
And although there is a strong political divide involved, it’s not perfectly aligned with the parties. Remember Tipper Gore? And there’s indoctrination from the right as well.
I suspect it was more because of the harrowing first-hand account of the bombing of Dresden.
'overzealous indoctrinators'
Ah yes the people who want books banned and the people who don;t are equally extreme.
'unfortunately none of them ever seem to be involved.'
People who prefer sitting on fences generally don't.
Not if we're talking about school libraries; nobody puts a book in a school library to indoctrinate anyone. (A cynic would say that people put books in school libraries to make sure kids never see them.)
They're paying for this school (and the books in its library). They get to decide what books to include / exclude. You don't share their values? TS. Start your own school, buy your own books, and let this community practice its traditions in peace.
Or, as we've seen in recent examples, "let the most outspoken and engaged morons in the community impose their 'traditional values' on students whose parents are not as engaged or conversant in fake crises ginned up by the outrage media."
It's always grassroots this and working people that until the wrong people with the wrong ideas make up those grassroots.
No, it's until the grassroots want to start violating people's constitutional rights.
You have a constitutional right to have the government supply you with particular books? Does the government have to put out pro-smoking PSAs as well as anti-smoking ones?
I do have a constitutional right to books! Even the split decision in this post acknowledged that the government couldn't do something so bold as to have only library books written by Democrats, for example.
These comment threads always make me think there must be a lot of tech people reading this blog, always looking for absolute logical rules. The law isn't like that -- it's all balancing one thing against another (or really, N things simultaneously). It's never absolute, so you have to think about where the lines should go.
If a community of particularly conservative citizens wanted local public schools to teach creationism over evolution, young Earth history over reality-based history, the Bible as non-fiction rather than as a book of fairy tales, the Confederacy as the righteous side in the Civil War, and gays as perverted works of Satan, would Ed Grinberg view that as proper respect of the traditions of bigoted, gullible, delusional hayseeds?
It is un-American nonsense, but I sense Ed Grinberg and plenty of other right-wingers would endorse it. Thank goodness for the culture war and liberal-libertarian American progress.
'Do what the loudest and best-funded cranks demand!'
The common name of that case is Island Trees v. Pico.
Funny how the school boards will not allow the contents of the books to be read during their meetings among adults for fear of violating obscenity laws, not because of the viewpoint.
The books that should be banned are the ones that simply arent age appropriate.
Books on gays/homsexuality, and other sexual topics for elementary school age kids should be banned , though shouldnt be banned for junior high or high school age kids.
I think that would be fine, as long as books on straights are also banned.
Basically, no parents in kids' books. Maybe the stork, but as long as it's a genderless stork.
They don’t write kids books on how to be a Normal. It’s the default, natural state of being.
That's a religious perspective, not a biological one. Biologically, homosexuality is just as "normal" as heterosexuality, just less common. Like red hair. Do you think books about red hair should be banned?
How many homosexual animals did Darwin catalog??
How ignorant of biology and reality are you?
I know how many gay animals Darwin cataloged. Apparently you don't. Which makes me smarter than you.
Go ahead, tell us.
Then tell us how many gay animals Darwin did NOT catalogue.
And throw in the number of bisexual animals Darwin did not catalogue.
Show us how smart you are.
What a stupid comment. Clearly I believe Darwin didn't miss cataloging any because a gay or bisexual animal is a modern, activist, invention.
You think Darwin and every other natural scientist just missed all the gay and bisexual orientated animals for hundreds of years? How do they know an animal identifies as a homosexual? Do they ask it? What about that transgender lion? Since gender is a cultural construct, how did that lion learn about cultural gender roles?
Plenty of animals have plenty of gay sex, and it is not a modern invention. What are you thinking of, humans training chimps and dolphins to have gay sex? Get a grip, pun intended.
So you're talking about gay behavior like men in prison, not homosexual as in when we talk about humans?
So you agree there are no animals that are homosexual, but some have been observed having gay sex like in prison?
Homophobia makes you say the weirdest things.
Charlie likes talking about gay sex more than anyone I've ever met, including people who rather like it. Hardly a comment thread goes by that he's not able to maneuver into a long and explicitly detailed conversation about the various ins and outs of male homosexuality like this one.
'How many homosexual animals did Darwin catalog??'
The number of things Darwin catalogued + the number of things Darwing didn't catalogue = everything in existence.
They write books on 'how to' be just about everything, many of them for kids.
Call me when y'all are trying to get Snow White pulled.
Until then, it's obvious it's not the "sexual topics" you're objecting to. You just hate gay people and want to pretend we don't exist.
Randal & Escherenigma
Respond to what I wrote -
responding and criticizing me for what I didnt write doesnt speak well of your intellectual honesty.
It depends on what you mean by "books on gays." If you mean books with gay characters, you're a fucking bigot. So, care to be more specific?
(The giveaway that you're a bigot is that you felt the need to specify gay / homosexual, as if "straight" books with the same degree of sexual content would be ok. Why single out gay, bigot?)
Randal
You lacking honesty in your response – 3rd time your responded with something I didnt write
You wrote "books on gays." It's right there. It doesn't work to deny it now.
read the full statement -
You continue to be a dishonest hack
Quite telling of you lack of honesty
I don’t know what you’re hoping to achieve here.
“Books on gays… for elementary school age kids should be banned.”
You said it yourself. I’m adding nothing. You’ve announced your bigotry to the world! Congratulations!
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"I don’t know what you’re hoping to achieve here."
Just pointing out your 5th dishonest statement in a row.
At least this last time you admitted you truncated the full statement -
Joe,
Your statement, "Books on gays/homosexuality, and other sexual topics for elementary school age kids should be banned." is too vague. Can you provide examples of what should be banned and what should not?
Josh R
Seriously - An adult needing an explanation of sexual topics that are or are not age appropriate for elementary school age children!
Yes, I am serious. Your language is vague.
Let's try an example. There is a picture book that shows a child being raised by two mothers. That doesn't sound sexual to me. OK by you?
Based on books being actively pulled in Florida, Snow White is not sexual. Snow White includes displays of heterosexuality, non-consensual kisses, and so-on.
Based on books being actively pulled in Florida, And Tango Makes Three is sexual. And Tango Makes Three includes... gay penguins existing in proximity to each other.
As my first derogatory statement indicated, I consider this to be hypocrisy. Instead of meaningfully responding, either by agreeing that it was hypocrisy, that Florida and other book-banners (such as the ones Volokh regularly defends) are going too far, you chose to mock me.
If I'm being generous, I would postulate that you are merely ignorant of what is actually happening.
If I'm being less generous, I would postulate that you agree with DeSantis and the book-banners that Volokh is defending, that And Tango Makes Three is a sexual book inappropriate for children. Despite having less sexual content then Snow White, which is apparently acceptable.
In "books on gays" do you include books that merely portray gay couples, possibly married, in the same way they might portray heterosexual couples?
"John and Bill met with their son's teacher to discuss his schoolwork."
Gross, that should be banned from everywhere. For everyone.
Bookburners always have their 'reasons.'
And reliable defenders in the Republican Party and at the Volokh Conspiracy.
But they will continue to lose ground to better Americans in the culture war.
BravoCharlieDelta 1 day ago Flag Comment Mute User “Gross, that should be banned from everywhere. For everyone.”
Bravo – I might not go that far – Though I will state that it is not age appropriate for elementary school age children. I would hope that Randal, josh r and others would be able to grasp the concept of what is and what isnt age appropriate.
further – The human brain even at that young age recognizes the a gay relationship as being biologically abnormal. As such, depicting the abnormal is only going to confuse the child. Children at that age have vastly more important things to learn such as basic math, reading and writing before embarking on social science.
So what were you complaining about yesterday? I was very accurately reflecting your quite bigoted viewpoint all along!
In fact, you're even more of a bigot than I was giving you credit for!
What an evil dumbass you are! "The gay relationship" is as "biologically abnormal" as red hair. The human brain, even at that young age, recognizes the red hair as being biologically abnormal. As such, depicting the abnormal is only going to confuse the child.
What are you, some kind of Aryan supremacist? This is you:
"John and Bill met with their son’s teacher to discuss his schoolwork" is appropriate for elementary age kids. To think otherwise is naked bigotry against gays.
'The books that should be banned are the ones that simply arent age appropriate.'
No books should be banned. Libraries, which have sections divided by age and reading level, by definiton should have age-appropriate books in the appropriate sections. Now deal with what books are actually being banned.
https://pen.org/banned-books-florida/
Examples:
At the Mountain’s Base, by Traci Sorell and Weshoyot Alvitre
Before She Was Harriet, by Lesa Cline-Ransome and James E. Ransome
Chik Chak Shabbat, by Mara Rockliff and Kyrsten Brooker
Cow on the Town: Practicing the Ow Sound, by Isabella Garcia
Dreamers, by Yuyi Morales
Dumpling Soup, by Jama Kim Rattigan, and Lillian Hsu-Flanders
Fry Bread: A Native American Family Story, by Kevin Noble Maillard and Juana Martinez-Neal
The Gift of Ramadan, by Rabiah York Lumbard and Laura K. Horton
Grandfather Tang’s Story, by Ann Tompert and Robert Andrew Parker
Hush! A Thai Lullaby, by Minfong Ho and Holly Meade
Islandborn, by Junot Díaz and Leo Espinosa
Little Night/Nochecita, by Yuyi Morales
Looking for Bongo, by Eric Velásquez
The supporters of banning books are much more comfortable discussing this topic at a general level.
It makes no sense that the Constitution gives a mere employee, a school librarian, complete and irrevocable discretion over the books in the library.
Why does that make no sense?
First, someone has to make those decisions. Libraries have limited budget and limited space. School libraries also have a mandate to ensure that their materials are age-appropriate for the students (reading levels, etc).
Second, the librarian doesn't have "complete and irrevocable" discretion - the librarian is an employee like any other who can be fired for making bad decisions. The school librarian is generally accountable to the principal who is accountable to the School Board who are accountable to the local people who elect them.
It makes sense that a school librarian would generally have initial discretion over the books in the library.
It makes no sense, however, that the Constitution would have anything to say about this topic.
It also makes no sense that a school librarian would have any sort of “complete and irrevocable” discretion. It seems you’ve made the same point yourself. Their boss and ultimately the school board should be able to decide whatever they want in this regard. I think Bob’s point is that it doesn’t make any sense for a federal judge to intervene and say “no, school board, you can’t remove this book that the librarian put there, sorry.”
As with all things 1A, it depends on the reasons.
If the school board were systematically removing all library books with positive takes on conservatives, you better hope a federal judge intervenes!
The question, as always, is, where's the line?
The main point the reasonable people here are making is that if you have a school / librarian on the one hand making holistic decisions about an entire library according to the district's content curation rubric, and on the other hand you have a politicized parent group with a sympathetic board member demanding the removal of a specific list of books with an obvious political slant, it's pretty easy to imagine that the 1A line could and probably should be drawn between the two.
"If the school board were systematically removing all library books with positive takes on conservatives, you better hope a federal judge intervenes!"
I don't hope that. And I assume that some school libraries are indeed biased against conservative viewpoints in their selection of materials.
Just because something is a bad idea, suboptimal, or even abhorrent, doesn't mean it is or should be unconstitutional. But there is no imagination needed to see that some people disagree.
The idea of a free speech issue here seems pretty whack. Whose free speech rights are being infringed exactly? You're saying there is a free speech right to have something included in a school library that the school doesn't want to include?
There are certainly equal protection rights that a school board could violate by having, say, no books about women.
I think there are first amendment rights as well. Even the split decision in this post acknowledged that a partisan preference would be problematic. I think some cutation decisions could also implicate establishment, maybe even free exercise if the court keeps going the way it's going on that one.
A librarian? In charge of a library? Intolerable!
You should here how Welcome To Night Vale portrays librarians.
Yes Volokh, we know you support book bans.
To be precise, I think the First Amendment doesn't prevent schools from choosing which books to stock or not stock in their libraries.
Sad that you don't understand the difference between content curation and book banning.
Perhaps it's time to curate Jewish content out of public schools. It's just a content decision!
content curation is when I do it, book banning is when you do it, and vice versa
Sad that nobody on the right understands the difference between content curation and book banning.
Sad you have time for all sorts of catty content-free sniping, but no time to explain the difference to us.
Sad that nobody on the left can explain such a simple difference.
If you are selecting a catalogue of books for a library, taking into account a range of factors like completeness, appropriateness, relation to curriculum, space, cost, etc., then you're doing content curation.
If you identify a specific book or two that made it through that process but you don't like for viewpoint reasons and you want to get it removed, that's book banning.
And how does one judge that difference? You have explained all but the interesting part. Let me compare it to tying a shoe:
The fact is that all library selections have to be content based, unless you only stock by author's name; even the title is content based. You have not explained how one differentiates the good content (your preferred outcome) and the bad content (the stuff you hate). That's where the hard work lies.
A higher authority [principal, school board] removing a book because it does not meet their criteria is not "book banning".
I agree, assuming it's really a good faith attempt to align with legitimate criteria.
A viewpoint-based decision to remove a politically unpopular book is almost never that.
Now define "good-faith attempt" and "viewpoint-based decision". Especially compare and contrast "attempt" and "decision" and why your usage differs.
This is exactly what courts are for. The point is, the first amendment has an application to public school libraries. It's not just an indoctrination free-for-all.
???
If I read Prof. Volokh's post correctly, it is at least arguable (and Prof. Volokh so argues) that a school board is not constitutionally prohibited from excluding books from its library.
In other words, you can't define what you are claiming.
A higher authority removing books because some intolerant religious cranks who happen to have strong political support demand it, is banning.
Here's an illustration:
What sorts of books should a school library have?
I'd describe the principles of curation as follows: A school library should have books (and magazines and other media) that are "age appropriate" and that (i) supplement courses of study at the school; (ii) provide research materials that would be useful for students; (iii) provide deeper reading for students whose curiosity is piqued by something they've studied in class; (iv) are "classics" in the literature; or (v) meet student demand for "fun" reading. For these purposes, "age appropriate" means materials that are suited for the reading, maturity, and developmental levels of the students at the schools.
That's curation. Do you agree that this seems like a pretty good set of criteria for library curation?
The part of you that wants to insert qualifiers and caveats, in order to target particular types of texts as not appropriate for a school library - that's the essence of "book-banning."
Curation is governed by a commitment to general principles rooted in an institution's core mission. Book bans are specific, content-based, and run contrary to those principles.
I mean, yes, that's what's actually happening.
Since there are more books available than even the largest library could stock, all libraries have to select which books to stock, and unless they are doing it randomly, it can't be content neutral. The First Amendment cannot apply to library selection.
Since every new book requires removing an old book, both new and old book selections also cannot be content neutral, and the First Amendment again cannot apply.
It's dead simple, which is probably why it confuses the partisans.
I'll take it! For every book you want banned, nominate a replacement, and explain why it's better from a holistic perspective.
Otherwise, fuck off. The more books the better. It doesn't make sense in the context of content curation to take books off shelves that you don't like. That's just book banning.
Libraries have a specific amount of space. You can’t add a new book without removing an old book. Both are based on content. It cannot be based on anything else that makes sense, unless your library only stocks Roald Dahl books.
ETA: To be specific, I'm responding to your impractical fantasy of "the more books the better". Are you stocking the TARDIS?
My point is that these book banning proposals are almost always purely put forth as removals, like, literally bans. That's a good way of telling that they aren't really about "content curation" at all. They don't talk about what should be in the library, only what shouldn't be. That's not content curation.
In other words, you can't define your claims. You are all about the feels.
No, I'm just not into typing long dissertations on my phone. But SimonP is. I'm saying what he's saying.
You're right that this is a simplistic take.
No one denies that school libraries are finite spaces with limited resources. It's conceded that some curation of their content is necessary. But it does not follow from this that the First Amendment just doesn't apply. We don't do this anywhere else in 1A jurisprudence. We don't say that viewpoint- and content-based discrimination is inevitable, and therefore there are no protections.
Eugene himself does not say this, either. He says, in essence, that library curation is just another form of government expression, like setting a curriculum or re-naming a school or passing a resolution condemning or praising some individual or group. But this is also woefully simplistic.
The Supreme Court has acknowledged a tension when governments try to create spaces wherein (one would hope) free speech principles govern. While not a primary basis of any holding of the Court (as far as I am aware), the notion of "academic freedom" would work as a constraint on exactly how much the government can regulate what happens within these "free speech" spaces. The idea is: the government can decide whether to sponsor a university and what courses of study to offer at the university, but it cannot dictate what professors teach their students or research. Or, in the library context, the government can decide to sponsor a library and decide how much to spend on books and programs there, but it cannot dictate what librarians decide is worth putting on the shelves.
This is an extraordinarily nettlesome problem, which explains why the Supreme Court hasn't laid out clear principles to decide it. And Eugene, like the judicial conservative activists now on our Court, seems to prefer not to address these complex questions with nuanced answers, since the simple, categorical approach resolves in his "side's" favor.
But I would think that anyone who genuinely cares about academic freedom and free speech in schools and universities would want to spend their time finding a doctrinal solution to the puzzle. I think that we can and should acknowledge that there is something special about libraries, classrooms, and academic research, even when funded by the public, that is killed when we allow them to be over-regulated by politicians eager to score culture war points.
This is a blog for movement conservatives and defenders of old-timey intolerance and superstition, not for Americans who favor academic freedom and free speech.
Honestly, you don’t even have to go this far.
Curation is a slow process. Every year a library will get X many new books, and remove Y many old books. There’s a lot to be said about this process, and how much ‘government speech’ is involved in the decisions, but none of that actually matters, because the book-banning attempts currently going on in Florida, Texas and elsewhere aren’t about curation.
This isn’t about a librarian consulting state policy before choosing which new books to order, or which old and damaged books to repair or withdraw. This is about governors and “concerned parents” targeting specific books and specific content and tying to make it unavailable for everyone.
And it’s not about “sexual” content either, that’s a red herring: If you can’t read And Tango Makes Three without thinking of sex, that’s on you and your pervert brain.
Yeah, that attempts at nuance would be a lot more persuasive if you didn't congratulate lawyers who ban books and defend book bans.
But you congratulate book banners, so nuance doesn't really matter.
Aside from the unusualness of the author showing up in the comments...
Would you say the current controversy is more centered around schools being forced (by state government) to preemptively remove books based on parent 'obscenity' complaints - without first evaluating the veracity of the complaint or the relevant community standards for 'obscenity'?
That's a different issue from the actual original stocking choice, and a much clearer 1A question....
Eugene, does the First Amendment prevent UCLA from deciding that your views on what the First Amendment does and doesn't protect are no longer in keeping with the institution's desired First Amendment curriculum, resulting in your termination?
Typically, the answer would be yes because a government employee's free speech rights do not extend to on the job speech. However, in the university context, there may be an academic freedom exception. I believe this is not settled law.
It's not. That's the point I'm making to Eugene. He has chosen to come down on one side of an unsettled point in 1A law, siding against free and open inquiry. It seems to me that, for the same reasons, he'd have to admit that he has no constitutionally-protected interest in his own academic freedom.
I think there are reasonable ways to distinguish the two cases such as the university setting versus K-12 and direct employee speech versus a third-party book.
That being said, I find both of these to be tough cases and don't blame anyone, including Eugene, for taking a principled position that I might disagree with.
The general trend has been to erase the distinction between higher education and K-12 schools, in terms of what kinds of "academic freedom" is protected by the First Amendment.
Anyway, you can draw that distinction, but the question is why the state should have full discretion in deciding what public K-12 schools teach and what books K-12 schools keep in their libraries, but not public universities. Yes, free inquiry is more important in higher education, but if you believe (as Eugene seems to) that the government gets to decide what speech it pays for, why would the higher education distinction matter?
I also don't see what distinction you're trying to draw between "direct employee speech" and a "third-party book." What is the First Amendment difference between me saying X, and handing you a book that says X? Why would the First Amendment possibly protect the former, but not the latter?
SimonP: I don't think that's so. Certainly the lower court teacher academic freedom cases come out overwhelmingly in favor of government power to control what and how K-12 teachers teach, and much more in favor of considerable university professor discretion over what and how they teach in public university classrooms (though with some exceptions). Likewise, the rules about vulgarity are quite different between K-12 schools (Bethel School Dist. No. 403 v. Fraser and follow-on lower court cases) and universities (Bd. of Curators v. Papish).
Now one can debate whether we university professors should have such greater rights (and likewise for university students), but that is indeed how the court decisions have generally come down.
"I don't have anything to add on the central question, but I thought I'd jump into the thread to correct an incorrect but irrelevant assertion."
Eh, I find his argument unpersuasive – the curation/removal distinction above seem right to me – but I don’t blame him for picking and choosing where to engage with this commentariat.
You don't think there are any inferences that can be drawn by examining which questions Eugene engages and which ones he avoids?
What one should really debate is whether it's appropriate for a self-described free speech advocate to cheer when books about oppressed minorities are pulled off the shelf for partisan reasons.
Prof. Volokh is a huge supporter of free expression — just ask him, or other clingers — except when the person imposing partisan censorship is him, or when a Republican governor who might appoint federal judges someday is the censor, or when the censors are conservatives running a campus, or when the private entity choosing content for publication is insufficiently deferential to right-wing bigotry or Republican political lies, or . . .
Eugene addressed university versus K-12 (why you dismiss his reply is beyond me since the caselaw provides the reasoning).
The four justices in Pico who felt the First Amendment protects library books (third-party speech) concluded it does not protect a teacher's choice of curricula (direct speech). The reasoning was given in the parts of Pico Eugene quotes in the OP.
Is a school prohibited from replacing the first edition of a book with a second edition? After all, the reasons for wanting to replace the book – e.g. that information in the book is out of date and newer material is perceived as better – are about as viewpoint-based as one could imagine. Same with discarding books nobody checks out in favor of books readers request; the reasons readers prefer the one to the other are entirely viewpoint and content based.
Is a library ever permitted to discard old editions and little-used books? If the library has run out of room, does the First Amendment prohibit it from buying new books?
There's a Roald Dahl exception, I believe.
If the basis for allowing the government to curate its own library based on the government's viewpoint, then I assume it is also possible for the government to violate a student's civil rights through its expression of that same viewpoint?
At what point does the government's choices expose it to liability? E.g. only Christian-leaning texts and texts that criticize other religions are permitted; establishment problem? E.g. pattern of excluding books that talk about non-White protagonists? E.g. lots of Phyllis Schlafley and no Gloria Steinem?
I don't think EV is advocating for unfettered discretion for the local school board, but I'm not detecting a principled constraint either.
What I took from the post is Eugene believes removing books is government speech, subject to the normal set of restrictions on government speech including the Establishment Clause, the Equal Protection Clause and civil rights laws. And even though banning books is loathsome, I agree with Eugene it is not facially unconstitutional.
There isn't a case or controversy related to the school board's actions at this time.
The issue is TX-style complaint-based-censorship laws, which force the school board or library administrator to act, based on a citizen 'obscenity' complaint.
Suppose the courts have the power to order a book retained in a library's collection. Do they also have the power to order the book to be purchased for the library's collection? To order the library to accept a donation of the book? The end result is the same, the library has a book it doesn't want.
And who makes the decision what book must be removed to make room for the required book, or which future book must not be purchased because it would displace the required book?
The courts have the power to strike down 'parent-compliant' laws which require school libraries to remove books preemptively if they receive a complaint.
So far the issue is not actions of the administration, but state legislatures trying to empower minority-viewpoint parents (who believe that any description of anything remotely sexual = obscene, even at the high-school level) with the legal authority to police school library content for 'obscene' material....
If memory serves, ABC Nightline's Ted Koppel interviewed students, parents, and librarians at both the time the case was heard and the time the opinion was announced: among other things, there was discussion regarding Mark Twain's work. [I have videotape -- not 3/4-inch videocassette or VHS cassette -- of the broadcast as received off-air... but don't want to fight the beast.]
The topic of library control has been ongoing and points of agreement have consistently existed: first, control of libraries (and determination of primary/secondary curricula, for that matter) is best left distributed and, second, such distributed control must reflect the mores of the controlling community. From my observation, decreasing the strength of borders (considering communities to be "bordered" entities) has increased the prevalence of problems; that is, autonomous communities possess a stability impossible in any centrally-planned mélange.
As one or two folk have pointed out, unless you select books for the library on the basis of the colour of the cover, you are exercising viewpoint discrimination by selecting any book for the library.
There's no conceivable argument that 1A could apply to viewpoint based removal of books but not to viewpoint based addition of books.
Thus the answer must be :
(a) 1A does not restrict the government from either adding or removing books to the school library, according to viewpoint, or
(b) there can be no school libraries, or
(c) use a monkey
You can select books for inclusion or removal based on many other factors than viewpoint.
However, when you remove a book from a school library because one parent does not like it & complains... That is a pretty obvious act of government censorship.
Give us an example then.
I concede, ab initio, that you can make a content based selection without that being viewpoint based, so long as you do not take into account the viewpoint expessed.
Thus you can select a book on, say, slavery so long as you do not discriminate against books that express the view that slavery was a good thing. You can select a book on algebra, but you can't discriminate against a book on algebra which includes worked examples that you do not find illuminating. The author obviously thought they were illuminating and you're not allowed to disagree with that viewpoint (at least so far as your selection of books is concerned.)
So your library is going to look pretty odd if you truly madly deeply do exclude viewpoint.
What I suspect you mean is that you can of course select books without considering their viewpoint, so long as, er, their viewpoint is sensible.
Content-based is not the same as viewpoint-based. I think there are plenty of ways to make a purely content-based stocking plan.
An example of viewpoint-neutral book-selection practices?
A public library decides to include books *without considering their content or viewpoint* because those books are highly-requested by library patrons.
Also, not everything is political – how would the selection or non-selection of ‘Blue Hat, Green Hat’ (a toddler book about a turkey that puts socks on it’s wings & goes swimming in street-clothes) in any way consider ‘viewpoint’ when the book doesn’t express one.
There’s no conceivable argument that 1A could apply to viewpoint based removal of books but not to viewpoint based addition of books.
Sure there is. It’s basically this: The 1A allows for content curation, but it doesn’t allow for book banning.
See SimonP’s post above for a good definition of this distinction.
https://reason.com/volokh/2023/02/27/does-the-first-amendment-bar-public-schools-from-removing-school-library-books-based-on-their-viewpoints/?comments=true#comment-9945375
Are we talking about cases where the school librarians choose whatever books they like, based on the values of the local educators and/or voters, or on what’s popular, and then when some parent’s group objects to specific titles the librarians (or outside allies) invoke the aid of the courts to keep the challenged books on the shelves?
That would be the virtuous and right solution, of course. Book selection is the responsibility of education professionals and doesn’t need any judicial review. In contrast, attempts by parents and school boards to meddle in book selection should get the full process of judicial second-guessing.
But what if some backwater rube of a federal judge (probably appointed by Trump) decides to second-guess the school librarian’s selection policies? “Why did you buy those trans-affirming books but not When Harry Became Sally? Why Harry Potter but not The Lord of the Rings?”
That’s not the way it’s supposed to work at all. Federal judges and school librarians should be allies, working shoulder to shoulder to make sure that correct books stay on the shelves and incorrect books stay off, and to keep nosy parents and school boards out of the domain of expert educators.
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Rubes ?
"/sarc"
Since any library can only hold a tiny fraction of a percent of the world's books, and therefore must necessarily be drastically selective, it seems incredibly stupid to suggest they can't select based on viewpoint. How could the selection not be based partly on viewpoint?
Similarly, though a different legal issue as EV explained, a school can only teach a tiny fraction of a percent of all the possible ideas and information in the universe.
School libraries are a museum for the way people used to find and distribute reading content.
A good way to solve all of these problems is just to give kids access to public library contents online. Auto-email parents when the kid uses that access to check out a book or other material. Much cheaper than employing a librarian. And no worries about whether the librarian is an extremist.
Yeah, I would not be surprised if getting rid of libraries altogether was one aim of all this book-banning.
Not altogether. They would keep the concordances.
Parents who don't want their kids exposed to various things aren't going to be too happy with that solution. But I think it's a great idea.
I am a retired librarian.
Lost in this debate is that we are talking about public funds and how they are spent. All libraries have limited budgets and must choose carefully which materials to buy. The book selection policy, particularly in public schools must be carefully drafted so that funds are spent to support curriculum goals and reflect community values.
The debate about books containing sexually explicit content or indeed violent or psychologically manipulative content needs to be refocused. Books not selected are not “banned” they merely reflect the choice by whomever selects them, hopefully based on objective standards that everyone can understand.
I would ask what books are NOT being selected when books whose purpose is clearly to appeal to prurient interest ARE selected. What is the school library budget and what percentage is spent on these books.
Another question to ask in this process is whether the library outsources its book selection to a service rather than having local librarians do it. This common practice homogenizes the types of materials available across counties, states, and regions.
Finally, the average person assumes that librarians are trained to identify literary merit and are not pushing a favored political agenda. This is a myth because professional associations such as the American Library Association have been captured by “progressives.” The ALA current president describes herself as a “Marxist lesbian” who advocates for “queering” the library. The ALA recommends and awards prizes to books based on this agenda and many library book selection policies rely on the ALA’s recommendations.
The ALA claims 54,000 members yet the current president was elected by about 10% of the membership and an opposition candidate received almost as many votes. How widely therefore is “queering “ the library supported by the library community?
Politically conservative librarians are the real victims here.
I'm a strong 1A advocate but I think the Brennan view is completely wrong. It's THEIR BOOKS. And THEIR Librarian. The school board is in charge, and responsible. It's idiotic to have a system where the librarians can pick whatever books they want and the school boards can't exercise control after that point.
It's idiotic that the school boards are reacting to the demands of an intolerant minority.
Is that what Brennan said in his decision? Or just a straw man.
It’s idiotic to have a system where the librarians can pick whatever books they want and the school boards can’t exercise control after that point.
Yes, that would be idiotic. And it's a strawman.
Please read above SimonP's lucid description of the difference between content curation and book banning. If the school boards what to change the criteria upon which books are selected, that's wonderful! They should be very involved in setting up the parameters and priorities of their districts' library programs.
But coming in after the fact and singling out specific books for removal based solely on their viewpoint is like a super-simple example of censorship. It's practically the go-to example, if only they were burning them afterward to give it that puritanical flourish.
1. To those who think libraries should be allowed to ban books by viewpoint: Would you change your mind once they start banning books that agree with your political point of view? For example if you are a Dem and they ban books by Barack Obama and allow books by Trump? Or you are a Republican and it’s the reverse situation?
2. To those who think libraries should NOT be allowed to ban books by viewpoint. Would you change your mind once they start carrying books like the Turner Diaries, Camp of the Saints, KKK for kids? Fiction about a heroic young Hitler? Books encouraging satanism, witchcraft? 50 Shades of Grey? Explicit porn like The Story of O?
Bottom line is, banning books by viewpoint would be a disaster when taken to the extremes, and not allowing any viewpoint selection criteria at all would also be a disaster when taken to the extremes. You have to find a solid compromise.