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The Bogus Controversy Over Nikki Haley Checking "White" on Her Voter Registration Card Resurfaces
Politico notes that on the one hand, Haley has been leaning into her identity as a Punjabi woman of Sikh heritage (though she is a practicing Christian). On the other hand, "In 2001 she reportedly listed her race as "white" on her voter registration card, three years before she entered into elective politics. (Haley has never publicly addressed her reasons for doing so.)"
Politico is suggesting, as others have, that by checking white she was distancing herself from her Asian Indian heritage.
One simply cannot surmise that from the box she checked. When Haley registered to vote, the options for race were "White, Black/African American, Asian, Hispanic, Other." In one the many anomalies of America's messed up racial classification system, people are asked to self-identify, but are not given the official definitions of who is included in each group.
When Haley was born in 1972, federal agencies generally classified Indian Americans as white. When the US government proposed uniform rules for racial definitions, Indians were deemed white. At the last minute, a small Indian American group persuaded the powers-that-be to put Indians into the "Asian American and Pacific Islander" classification. Even then, some states and federal agencies excluded Indians from the Asian classification for another decade or two.
But all that said, shouldn't Haley have known to put down "Asian," unless she was trying to obscure her identity? Well, even most law professors could not tell you the precise definitions of the different classifications. Iranian, Afghans, and Armenians are "white." Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, and Filipinos are "Asian." If you knew that much, but don't know Indians' official status, would it be clear to you that you should check "Asian" and not, like other Caucasians from the Asian continent, white? Put slightly differently, the "Asian American" classification grew out of classifications that either identified people by East Asian ethnicity (Chinese, Japanese, etc) or served as a replacement for what used to be called "Oriental." Indian Americans fit into neither group.
Even today, 45 years after the official classifications came into being, most "Asian Americans" do not identify with that category, many Americans don't think of South Asians as "Asian Americans," and South Asians are substantially less likely to identify with the "Asian" label than are East Asians.
In short, if there had been a "South Asian" or "Indian" box to check, and Haley had chosen to check white, one could fairly surmise she was distancing herself from her heritage. But given the arbitrary choices of "white" or "Asian" with no definitions, the average person of Indian descent could have easily thought that an Indian, especially one of relatively fair complexion, came under the "white" classification.
PS If you find discussion of such matters interesting, be sure to pick up my book, Classified: The Untold Story of Racial Classifications in America.
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Shouldn’t she be able to identify as any race she wants to? Barack Obama is likely more than 50% White, but he gets to be Black.
Barry Hussein O was Black??
I don’t care about his race. I do care that he advanced Marxism.
Black Irish?
I have my copy of the book and look forward to reading it. The racial classification system is something that I never thought much about, and your occasional posts on it are really interesting. For a long time people have classified themselves based on family lore or what our parents taught us, which may not be entirely accurate but is not worthy of criticism except in the most egregious cases. This is certainly not one of them.
> If you knew that much, but don’t know Indians’ official status,
Is “from India” even relevant to “race” (vs. nationality)? The people living there appeared to be of many different racial backgrounds.
American law and elit, culture have decided that Asian is a race, and includes Indians. As you note India is very diverse ethnically, its people’s genetic heritages are distinct, some more from the East, some from the West, some more “local.” But for that matter, Indians are Caucasians, Chinese are East Indians, and Filipinos are (mostly) Austronesians, so anthropoligcally and genetically, along with culture, appearance, religion, etc, lumping all these groups together is arbitrary.
It seems to be more a British thing to call India-Indians Asians. In the US, not so much. What we call Asian is the current location on the euphemism treadmill for what used to be Oriental. So, not also India-Indians.
Oriental used to start in Turkey.
A lot of people in India don’t speak each other’s language and hence use English.
Thanks Dr. Obvious
There’s bigger difference top to bottom of India than there is top to bottom of Europe, for languages, culture, cuisine, etc.
If she is a Punjabi, wouldn’t her country of origin be Pakistan?
No, Punjab is a region with a bit in Pakistan and bit in India. Nikki Haley’s parents comes from the Indian bit.
This controversy is not a serious one. But I might consider taking it a bit more seriously if the people bothered by this were similarly concerned about Elizabeth Warren’s claims. But of course, at the end of the day, Warren’s were bogus (and she had reason to know that at least in 2016), while Haley has done nothing wrong historically on this topic, up until today.
Partisan hacks gonna hack. Especially Politico reporters AKA Democrat party opposition researchers.
Why is it an issue? Is “hispanic identifying as white” not a thing anymore? In that context, hispanic is a synonym for native American.
Ohhhh, it might be a race baiter thing.
Correct. The linked Politico article mentions the voter registration card one time in the piece among a list of many other examples of things she’s done that touched on racial identity. Hell, if I’d read that before this, I would have thought “that’s odd” and then forgotten it ten seconds later.
Bernstein is just making a big deal about that card here (and he is making a much bigger deal out of it then Politico did) because government racial classifications are his obsession.
To be fair, racial classifications are also an obsession of the government.
Well he’s got a book out about it.
Every author is obsessed with their books, and always point out when something topical intersects with one of their books, especially if the book is recent and still in print.
Of course she is white and is entitle to self-identify as belonging to the Oppressor Race.
Moreover her ancestors are from an area with a significant admixture of European stock.
Warren’s claim is different in that she used it to again advantage from her employers in their efforts to assert the “diversity” of their faculty.
OK, I’m a little slow with some things, but WTF are they asking about race for anyway? I used to like to (redacted) with the System when asked by putting “Human” (and “Yes” to the “Sex?” question) but the System doesn’t have a sense of Humor about that, try practicing Medicine without an NPI number (I’d tell you but then I’d have to treat you for free) Shouldn’t we follow Martin Lucifer’s teachings to judge peoples by the content of their Character (I could care less about Hunter Biden’s Lap dances, the Cocaine (what’s a Lap Dance without some blow?) but fucking your dead brother’s wife (even if she is hot) is over the line, long way of saying he’s got bad character…
Frank “Transitioning Human”
Fun Fact, the first “Aryans” were from Ear-Ron (where the country name comes from) and India
Aryan or Arya (/ˈɛəriən/;[1] Indo-Iranian *arya) is a term originally used as an ethnocultural self-designation by Indo-Iranians in ancient times, in contrast to the nearby outsiders known as ‘non-Aryan’ (*an-arya).[2][3] In Ancient India, the term ā́rya was used by the Indo-Aryan speakers of the Vedic period as an endonym (self-designation) and in reference to a region known as Āryāvarta (‘abode of the Aryas’), where the Indo-Aryan culture emerged.[4] In the Avesta scriptures, ancient Iranian peoples similarly used the term airya to designate themselves as an ethnic group, and in reference to their mythical homeland, Airyanǝm Vaēǰō (‘expanse of the Aryas’ or ‘stretch of the Aryas’).[5][6] The stem also forms the etymological source of place names such as Iran (*Aryānām) and Alania (*Aryāna-).[7]
It’s generally understood that, if somebody is reported in the media to be “Asian”, they’re either South-east Asian, or a Pakistani terrorist the media want to confuse you about.
If she had checked one of the other boxes, the Democrats would be whining about that too.
The only racial classification that matters is the one the Republican base chooses to care about.
Because Republicans are the ones pushing race into every topic, that created an entire industry on creating and amplifying racial grievances in your world? Funny how pushback against blatant racial discriminatory policy is seen by leftists as racist, almost like Democrats never abandoned their roots as the party of slavery.
But, notably, in the UK, “Asian” generally refers to the subcontinent.
Dear Reason,
Never waste time on something “reported” in Politico.
I knew a candidate named Nikki, guess you could call her a publicity fiend
Perhaps Haley really believes that “white privilege” exists, and since she has a plausible case for being included, labeled herself that in order to benefit from the privilege.
As opposed to, for instance, Barack Obama, who could equally have justified self-labeling as white but instead pretended to be foreign born to benefit from affirmative action.
I capitalize both… If the first word in a sentence, or a proper name. Otherwise neither.
or this guy
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104187/
There was a wonderful peak BBC story several years ago, recounting the strange tale of an unnamed Australian man who had murdered some poor unfortunate recent Pakistani immigrant to Australia, and who had then fled….to Pakistan !
Although it was perfectly obvious from the context, and easily discoverable from other news sources, Hell was going to freeze over before the Beeb was going to admit that the perp was another recent Pakistani immigrant to Australia, and this was an old Pakistani vendetta thing.
APA style guide says capitalize “Black.”
Are “black” and “white” even ethnicities to begin with?
And married Michael Haley.
Lots of people use their middle name — J. Edgar Hoover, etc…
What makes it particularly hilarious is that “Europe” and “Asia” are, objectively, the same continent.
Yeah, not sure ticking a box on her voter registration card will do much to distance her from the heritage she’s ‘leaning on.’
As a matter of consistency, I capitalize ethnicities which are derived from proper names, “Asian”, for instance. I don’t capitalize “black” and “white” because they’re adjectives.
Anyway, I guess I can see people who go overboard and capitalize BOTH “black” AND “white”, but people who capitalize one and not the other are just racists.
That was 22 years ago, you know.
Yes and no.
Are North America and South America the same continent ? Geologically, the only difference between the continental status of North and South America, and Europe and Asia is that North and South America have joined up recently (about 3 million years ago), while Europe and Asia have been doing a bit of a dance over the last 250 million years, joining and separating, “finally” coming together about 35 million years ago.
Here’s a fun tectonic history :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwWWuttntio
It’s interesting to note that India has already thumped into Asia before Europe and Asia finally hook up.
Little-known fact: Miyam Bialik’s real name is Ursula Jones.
Geologically, I’m missing the presence of a fifty mile wide isthmus between “Europe” and “Asia”. Which, I suppose is topologically irrelevant, but is a practical difference.
Maybe we should call them “East and West Eurasia”, the way we do with the Americas.
Now do “Negro.”