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Professor Xiao Wang in the Minnesota Law Review Refutes A Position I Do Not Hold
When you say someone is wrong, quote them, to ensure you are properly attributing their view.
Last week, How Appealing linked to a new article in the Minnesota Law Review by Professor Xiao Wang, titled "The Old Hand Problem." The thesis of the article is that judges take senior status strategically. That is, Republican-appointed judges take senior status during Republican administrations. And Democratic-appointed judges take senior status during Democratic administrations. Tell me something I don't know. Indeed, shortly after the 2020 election, I wrote a blog post titled "Which Ninth Circuit Judges Were Waiting For A Democratic President to Take Senior Status?" I teased an article that I was working on with James Phillips "about judges who strategically time their taking of senior status." James and I in fact did start writing that article, but we ultimately abandoned the effort, in part, because the conclusions confirmed conventional wisdom.
I glanced at Wang's article and didn't think much of it. (The title, though, seems like something of a mixed metaphor, because an "Old Hand" usually is a positive word that refers someone with skill or experience).
But then a Volokh reader flagged a passage about me in the article:
The data also suggests that Republican-appointed judges have acted in a significantly more politically strategic manner than their Democratic-appointed counterparts. That finding contradicts an idea, put forth by Josh Blackman, that judges are only just now taking senior status to benefit President Biden and the Democratic Party. This conjecture is not borne out by the data. True: both sides may be playing the game of strategic retirement. But also true: one side—the Republican Party—is much better at playing the game than the other. During the Trump administration, for instance, almost a hundred more Republican-appointed judges sought senior status than their Democrat counterparts—an absolute difference accounting for more than ten percent of the Judiciary.8 At any rate, the percentage swings we have witnessed are significant for both parties and are historically unprecedented.
Huh? I never, ever said that. I am well aware that Republican judges strategically timed their senior status. And nothing in my blog post support that proposition. Not a single word. And Wang doesn't include any support or parenthetical for the proposition.
Wang repeats this claim later in the article, almost verbatim:
Third, these numbers rebut the suggestion made by Josh Blackman that judges have started taking senior status now to benefit the Democratic Party—i.e., that this strategic behavior manifested only recently, to provide President Biden an opportunity to shape the Judiciary.
Again, I never said this was some new trend since Biden is in office.
Let me be charitable. Perhaps Wang could have written that Blackman only discussed the problem of judges taking senior status now that a Democrat is in the White House, which creates the inference that there is some sort of new behavior. But to make a statement like that, Wang would have to be certain that I've never written about strategic senior status-taking during the Trump years. But of course I did. In December 2017, I wrote for National Review that Republican-appointed judges should take senior status to give Trump more seats. I named names. (And a few of the people I named were not very happy with me; welcome to my world.) And many of the judges I named did in fact take senior status when they were eligible. I wrote:
According to my calculations, there are over 100 judges appointed by Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush who can immediately open up new vacancies by announcing a plan to leave active service, either upon the confirmation of their successor or on a future date. They should be encouraged to do so over the next year.
Wang should have cited my National Review piece as support for this thesis! We agree!
Here, we have a failure of the author to accurately cite a source, and the failure of the editors to check sources. Moreover, it is all too common for authors to tease student editors with lofty claims like "I challenge conventional wisdom" or "I proved so-and-so-wrong." The latter claim is especially attractive when the author shows that conservatives are worse than liberals, or even worse, a conservative author is a hypocrite. (That's me.). The journal was snookered here.
I emailed both Wang and the journal. They replied there would be no correction. So this blog post will serve as the rejoinder.
May I offer some advice to editors: if you ever say someone is wrong, actually quote them. Don't paraphrase them. Don't take a few words out of context. Quote them at length. Quote the exact point that you are saying was wrong. And once you've done that, stop short of actually saying they're wrong. Make it soft. The author may have erred when he wrote… The author failed to consider… The author did not account for… And so on. But don't write that your work "contradicts" what someone else wrote--especially when the person you are criticizing supports your work.
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When the tales are so hot you don’t even have time to quote yourself correctly.
This from a guy who publishes falsehood-laced research ("Today In Supreme Court History") repeatedly (each year, predictably).
Now we know how one becomes a professor -- and is mired -- at one of the worst law schools in America.
And this identifies the level of scholarship needed to be invited to join a white, male, faux libertarian, right-wing blog with a vanishingly thin academic veneer.
Carry on, clingers. As best you can, anyway.
"This from a guy who publishes falsehood-laced research (“Today In Supreme Court History”) repeatedly (each year, predictably)."
This from a guy who makes claims without evidence or cites.
Hey (man!) the Rev.olting Reverend coached one of the best defenses in College Football history!
A couple of commenters were awarded Noble Prizes for identification of error in Today In Supreme Court History this week. One of them recounted the record of persistent falsehoods in some detail. Look it up yourself, clinger.
Nobody tell Wang this club's restricted.
Huh? I never, ever said that.
Correct. Blackman generally tries to avoid making firm statements. Instead, he just strongly implies things so people assume the statement but he never explicitly makes it. So if he ever gets called on it he gets to retort "I never, ever said that".
This is a perfect example, the position Blackman is accused of having is "an idea, put forth by Josh Blackman, that judges are only just now taking senior status to benefit President Biden and the Democratic Party.".
So what did Blackman write?
Well the title: "Which Ninth Circuit Judges Were Waiting For A Democratic President to Take Senior Status?"
This suggests a premise, that judges are only just now taking senior status to benefit President Biden and the Democratic Party.
Then he cites an article including: They are in their 60s or 70s, and some have been waiting for a Democratic president so they can take senior status.
Which again supports that premise.
Later he writes: "James Phillips and I are writing an article about judges who strategically time their taking of senior status."
Which again supports that premise.
Followed by a list of judges whom we are left to assume will take senior status to benefit Democrats.
So no, Blackman doesn't make the statement, he just writes an entire article putting forth arguments in favour of it.
In defense of Blackman, I THINK his actual position is both parties do this and there's nothing wrong with it. But it would be a little clearer (and probably would have avoided this dispute) if he would say that openly.
I agree that was Blackman's position and I think Xiao Wang would agree.
In short, Blackman's article was a classic "both sides are doing it", and Wang's result was "the Democrats don't do it nearly as much".
I also agree that Blackman doesn't like to say things openly. I mean he literally used the exact same tactic 3 days ago. Imply (but try to avoid explicitly stating) that Democrats are using tactic X in order to justify Republican's unmentioned blatant abuse of tactic X.
I don't see any such thing implied by the title of the piece, and certainly not in the body of it...which was just some quotes from 9th Circuit judges and a (brief) commentary on some of the potential issues the tactic might face depending on the outcomes of the Presidential and Senate races, as well as a list of judges who were eligible to take senior status.
What. You can't be this illiterate. I swear people just see it's a Blackman post and just start smashing random words on their keyboard.
Did you expect a post about Republican judges after a Democrat was elected president? Of course he's writing about the thing that is actually happening at that time. Just like he wrote about Republicans doing it when that was relevant. And pointed it out.
I swear people just see it’s a Blackman post and just start smashing random words on their keyboard.
It does have a Pavlovian quality to it.
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to have misunderstood.
Blackman's article was presenting the possibility of a mass retirement of Democratic judges since they could be replaced by a Democratic administration. Just like Xiao Wang suggested. The reader is supposed to come away with the impression that those judges are acting in a partisan matter, therefore justifying the politicization of the judicial branch in general.
I've no idea of Blackman wrote about the same phenomena under the GOP though I'd be mildly surprised if he did because it emphasizes the partisanship of the judges which he doesn't tend to do for Republicans.
It's a total mystery and you have no way of knowing. I mean, that article he linked above at https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/12/trump-courts-republican-appointed-judges-should-take-senior-status/ could be about *anything*.
That piece is saying that conservative judges should take politically-convenient senior status, not that they do. If anything, the fact that Prof. Blackman felt compelled to issue the call a year into a Republican presidency implies that he thought they weren’t already doing it.
He favored it no doubt. The non sequitor in all this is claiming he was arguing that taking senior status was an exclusively Democratic issue, which he never said or suggested. The author of the law review piece is clearly in the wrong. You can dislike Blackman and still recognize that.
Blackman's National Review article is arguing that GOP Judges *should* strategically take senior status, not that they were.
His article about the Democratic Judges implied that they were about to start a strategically taking senior status en mass.
And Xiao Wang's characterization of Blackman's position was that Democratic judges make extensive use of strategic senior status, not that is was exclusively a Democratic tactic, and I agree with Xiao Wang on that.
In fact, as we see in the cited article Blackman carefully avoids the issue of whether GOP judges did it because this is a very standard Blackman argument (though he does mention some Bush examples, probably because strategic retirement isn't that controversial).
When given a morally dubious tactic that the GOP is heavily exploiting Blackman will imply that Democrats are in fact exploiting it while encouraging the GOP to exploit that tactic without admitting they're already doing so.
Blackman’s National Review article is arguing that GOP Judges *should* strategically take senior status, not that they were.
Bullshit.
“Further, it is a fact of life that judges appointed by Democratic presidents are more likely to take senior status when a Democrat is in the White House, while judges appointed by Republican presidents are more likely to take senior status when a Republican is in the White House.”
Perhaps you and “myself” failed to note the following from the piece in question:
“Further, it is a fact of life that judges appointed by Democratic presidents are more likely to take senior status when a Democrat is in the White House, while judges appointed by Republican presidents are more likely to take senior status when a Republican is in the White House.”
So yes, he did in fact say that Republicans (and Democrats) already tend to “take politically-convenient senior status”, which would be the exact opposite of somehow implying that they don’t.
On top of the inaccuracy regarding Prof. Blackman, the quoted passage seems on shaky ground in asserting that because "almost a hundred more Republican-appointed judges sought senior status than their Democrat counterparts," Republicans are "better at playing the game" than Democrats. How does he know the disparity is the fault of those judges taking senior status, rather than those judges delaying doing so until a change in administrations?
Maybe the case is somehow made elsewhere in the article that Republican-aligned judges are to blame for pulling the senior status trigger too early rather than Democrat-aligned judges refusing to take senior status until Trump is out of office. But that passage certainly doesn't do it.
Good point. Relatedly, if one assumes for simplicity that (i) each Republican and Democratic judge "plays the game" of strategic senior-status-taking equally well, (ii) there are an equal number of Republican and Democratic judges, and for good measure (iii) there is no difference in actuarial statistics between Republican and Democratic judges when they take senior status, then one would expect that roughly twice as many game-playing Republican judges would strategically take senior status during Trump's term than game-playing Democratic judges would strategically take senior status during Biden's term. That's because the GOP gameplayers would have had to wait (getting older and grayer all the while) for eight years during Obama's two terms, while the Dem gameplayers would only have had to wait for four years during Trump's one term as a result of Trump's failing to secure re-election in 2020. That's the more appropriate comparison than just blithely stating, as Prof. Wang did, that "almost a hundred more" judges took senior status during Trump's term, .
Also, how many Democrat appointed judges took senior status under Obama? If that number was high, it might just be that there aren't that many democrat judges eligible for senior status now.
I think you're giving only one of two possible readings of what Professor Xiao wrote: "That finding contradicts an idea, put forth
by Josh Blackman, that judges are only just now taking senior
status to benefit President Biden and the Democratic Party."
Option 1: Blackman argues judges of any political party have only now started taking senior status when Republican judges did not do so under Trump
Option 2: Blackman argues that Democratic appointed judges are only now taking senior status to benefit from Biden when they held on under Trump (and Xiao does not comment on whether Blackman has commented on Republicans doing so also).
Given the focus of the paragraph is on a comparison of whether the quantum of abuse by Republican judges is more or less than Democratic judges (and not evidence that a Republican problem existed at all prior to Biden), I think Option 2 is at least equally likely to be the proper reading.
“I never told Mr. Mobmuscle to kill no Gino da Fish. I said to ‘take him out.’ If Mr. Mobmuscle misinterpreted my intention to show Fish a good time, it’s a tragedy, yes. But that’s on him…”
Well, perhaps you can take comfort in the fact that this article is the first search result when one Googles the professor’s name.
judges are only just now taking senior status to benefit President Biden and the Democratic Party.
This is not the clearest statement I've ever read. Does it mean:
1. Democratic judges have recently waited to take senior status.
2. This is new behavior by Democratic judges, who previously did not take senior status tactically.
3. Something else
Given that lack of clarity, I think maybe there is an issue of (mis)interpretation. Rather than demand a retraction the appropriate course might be a letter (do law reviews publish letters?) explaining his various statements on the matter, and letting it go at that.
Wait. So you wrote a post which in essence says, “Democrat Judges will be strategically partisan about when they take their senior status,” and is silent about Republican judges doing it, except to note that a few GOP judges didn’t take senior status when they could have under GW Bush. And your objection to Wang reading that as the one-sided take it is is that you wrote elsewhere that Republican judges should time their senior status for partisan advantage?
You can’t possibly believe those things are equivalent.
Maybe you indeed believe Democratic and Republican judges are equally inclined to be partisan about when they take senior status, but no one could be faulted for failing to glean that from your published views.
"if you ever say someone is wrong, actually quote them. Don't paraphrase them. Don't take a few words out of context. Quote them at length."
I think JB doesn’t understand how the game is played. Finger pointing is easier to get away with when it’s based on insinuation.
RE: "May I offer some advice to editors: if you ever say someone is wrong, actually quote them. Don't paraphrase them. Don't take a few words out of context. Quote them at length. Quote the exact point that you are saying was wrong."
Tell that to the Republicans who have been smearing Margaret Sanger's memory exactly by taking a few words out of context.
He said, without quoting the original words or the "out of context" words.
What is out of context about eugenics? Please enlighten us with your scholarship, Oh learned one!
Why not sue both the professor and the journal for libel?
Are you that starved for entertainment? I cringe enough at Josh's self-owns here. For him to do it in a court of law? I wouldn't wish that on him.