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The Annie Leibovitz Limiting Principle for 303 Creative
The ACLU inadvertently explains how Lorie Smith could prevail.
On Monday morning, David Cole published a guest essay about 303 Creative in the New York Times. If you thought the legal director of the ACLU would defend the First Amendment rights of Lorie Smith, you obviously have not been paying attention for the last decade. But Cole did defend another artisan's First Amendment rights. Of all people, the photographer Annie Leibovitz! Cole explains that Leibovitz is in a different position than Smith, because her business is not open to the public. Rather, the world-renowned photographer chooses her clients. Therefore, Leibovitz is free to discriminate. Here is Cole's position:
First, no artist has to open a business to the public in the first place. Most writers, painters and other artists never do; they pick their subjects and leave it at that. The photographer Annie Leibovitz, for example, does not offer to take photographs of anyone who offers to pay her fee but chooses her subjects. She is perfectly free to photograph only white people or only Buddhists.
But if Ms. Leibovitz were to open a portrait photography business that offered to take portraits on a first-come, first-served basis to the public at large, as many corporate photography studios do, she could not turn away subjects just because they were Black or Christian. Her photographic work would be just as expressive. But the choice to benefit from the public marketplace comes with the legal obligation to equally serve members of the public. And requiring businesses that offer expressive services in the public marketplace to follow the same rules as all other businesses does not violate the First Amendment.
The Leibovitz example bespeaks how out of touch the ACLU has become. 99.9% of artists cannot afford to "pick their subjects and leave it at that." In order to eat and pay the rent, most artists take whatever work comes to them. And that process invariably means you open your business up to the public. Perhaps when an artist reaches stratospheric heights, like Leibovitz, she can be more choosy with her commissions. But virtually all artists will need some mechanism to advertise their services to the public--whether it is a storefront, a website, or even an Instagram page. And that advertisement would place them squarely in the confines of most public accommodation statutes.
This example also echoed another case pending before the Court this term: Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith. In the 1980s, Andy Warhol created a series of his distinct silk-screen paintings of the musician Prince. Warhol's prints were made using a photograph taken by photographer Lynn Goldsmith. Most people have heard of Andy Warhol, who has a similar cultural cache as Annie Leibovitz. But few people are familiar with the work of Goldsmith--even though you likely have seen her work. She has photographed some of the most iconic musicians, including Prince, Bob Marley, Bruce Springsteen, and others. Goldsmith contends that a ruling for Warhol would be based, in part, on Warhol's superstardom. Her brief explains:
AWF's [Andy Warhol Foundation's] contention (at 50-51) that "Warhol's unique style is the very thing that gives the Prince Series its distinct message" would treat any "difference in style" as transformative, "weaken[ing] the protection of copy-right." Campbell, 510 U.S. at 599 (Kennedy, J., concur-ring). Under AWF's test, every Warhol-style silkscreen conveys a different message from the original photograph. That "logic would inevitably create a celebrity-plagiarist privilege; the more established the artist and the more distinct that artist's style, the greater leeway that artist would have to pilfer the creative labors of others." Pet.App.27a; see AIPLA Br. 27-28. No one doubts Warhol's artistic innovations. But Warhol charged for his art and AWF will continue profiting, including by vigorously asserting Warhol's copyrights. Fame is not a ticket to trample other artists' copyrights.
And fame is not a ticket for special First Amendment exemptions. Under Cole's arguments, the only artists that could receive a carve-out from the public accommodation laws would be those artists so famous that business falls in their lap. I would never have expected such an elitist argument from the ACLU. Starving artists apparently don't need their constitutional rights.
Yet, implicit in Cole's essay is a rationale why Lorie Smith should prevail. Anne Leibovitz is an artist of one. She is the creative genius that celebrities around the world seek out. If Vanity Fair commissioned Lebovitz to photograph the Vice President, and she offered the contract to a junior associate at the JCPenney Portrait Studio, Vanity Fair would probably decline. In other words, there is only one person on team Leibovitz who has the artistic skill to make the photograph happen. (In fairness, my family takes their portraits at JCPenney's, and is very pleased with the quality of work.)
Now, back to 303 Creative. Lorie Smith has not achieved the superstardom of Annie Leibovitz. It's okay. Most people never will. But Smith still seeks to ply her digital design skills to tell the stories of married couples. Art is art. I'm sure Smith would appreciate the market power in which she could pick and choose her commissions, like Leibovitz does. That's not going to happen. Still, in a way, Lorie Smith resembles Annie Leibovitz: both are the principal artisans in their firm. And if they do not take the job, no one else at the firm would do it.
This dynamic is familiar. Virtually every case involving a wedding service provider involves a small, close-knit company. Elane Photography was owned by a husband and wife. Masterpiece Cakeshop was owned by a husband and wife. Telescope Media was owned by a husband and wife. And 303 Creative has a single employee--Lorie Smith.
The amicus brief for the Jewish Coalition for Religious Liberty, which I co-authored with Howie Slugh, makes an observation:
An obvious pattern emerges from this litigation. These disputes involve not just closely-held companies—like Hobby Lobby—but close-knit companies. There are usually one or two owners, often members of the same family. In Hobby Lobby, only the owners shared religious beliefs, while employees had a wide range of faiths. But for these close-knit firms, the artists who actually perform the creative work share the same religious beliefs, and object to creating a specific wedding-related product. And, in these close-knit firms, the creative work cannot be passed onto another in-house artist with different religious beliefs. Indeed, these artists of faith likely work in such religious-centric businesses precisely so they can follow their beliefs while plying their trade.
In honor of David Cole, let's call it the Annie Leibovitz limiting principle: whatever rule the Court adopts can be limited to such closely-knit firms in which the only artisan(s) who perform the creative services objects to speaking, and no one else at the firm can create those bespoke products. I think this limiting principle would capture almost 100% of the wedding service provider cases of late, which all involve closely-knit firms. And this limiting principle would avoid almost the entire parade of horribles that Colorado and the United States warned about.
I realize that Part I of the JCRL brief made headlines for some humorous hypothetical questions, but Part II, which explains this limiting principle, may prove even more useful.
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Turn your photo studio/Web design company/etc. into the equivalent of a private eating club. Membership by application only. Non-members turned away.
How many people would you have to reject for membership before your club becomes truly exclusive for 1A purposes?
My first thought too. Have every customer fill out an application, throw out every 10th one for no reason at all; does that make you exclusive enough? If some wiseacre resubmits a thrown-out application and it happens to be approve, that just shows how exclusive you are!
The specifics will turn on the specific state law in question, but generally speaking, the answer to these questions is no. You can't make cosmetic changes to the way you run a business to avoid being a public accommodation.
There’s no ‘exclusivity’ carve-out for the 1st Amendment. Also I'm fairly certain the 'club' thing has been tried unsuccessfully by various southerners pissed at racial integration....
The issue is whether work done for hire is the speech of the service-provider, or of the customer.
re: "The issue is whether work done for hire is the speech of the service-provider, or of the customer."
There's some intuitive appeal to that argument but it doesn't hold up. You made that point in more detail down near the bottom of the threads (my screen shows the timestamp as Dec 7 at 16:42) and I replied in greater detail there.
Whether it's "open to the public" or not is irrelevant. Public accommodation laws are not constitutionally nor morally justifiable unless it's an emergency situation for a very short period of time.
And no, the fact that a majority of Americans are not supporters of liberty doesn't change that.
Where public accommodations doctrine really jumped the shark is when it was expanded beyond its traditional, common-law limit (i.e., traveler services) to include all business.
A potential key rationale is akin to antitrust.
Can someone get the goods or services they want or need easily across the street or across town or on a different website? If so, then there is no need to force people to associate with each other in violation of freedom of association and potentially freedom of speech. If not, then the provider of that good or service has some kind of monopoly or market power in that situation.
That rationale has never been accepted for other antidiscrimination cases…
We don’t allow a single ‘whites only’ burger joint simply because there’s a non-racist McDonalds, Wendys & Burger King 2 blocks away….
Yes, and that's wrong.
Yes, that's a good point.
There was a legitimate need for these laws at a time in the 60s, although Heart of Atlanta was wrong. There was never appropriate federal jurisdiction.
There is not a need today.
Strive, strive to defend those bigots, Prof. Blackman!
That conservatives have been reduced to trying to carve slivers of safe spaces for bigots and bigotry in modern America is a beautiful reflection of our national progress throughout my lifetime. The bigotry was open, common, and even casual during my childhood. Today's vestigial bigots (1) try to hide their bigotry behind euphemisms ("conservative values," "traditional values," "religious values," "family values"); (3) tend to reveal their bigotry mostly in what they perceive to be safe spaces, such as private homes, online message boards, Klan and militia gatherings, and Republican committee meetings; and (3) are being painted into increasingly small corners of our national life.
Please continue striving to count.
That mistake was so obvious that I might have been auditioning, subconsciously, for a spot on the editorial staff of Today In Supreme Court History.
Yes, you always seem to be on the side of totalitarianism. Guess you don't believe in the force of your arguments and need government coercion to prop it up.
What next, forcing school children to pledge allegiance to the PRIDE flag? That's been done.
Dispirited, disaffected, faux libertarian bigots are among my favorite culture war casualties.
Until replacement.
Translation: “I do not consider the freedom to choose one’s trading partners to be an important part of liberty — at least if that person would use it in ways that I would not.”
Ultimately, if discriminating is not a protected right, cancel culture falls with it.
The Supreme Court should say, "Look, we don't care what you stipulate, you're not a public accommodation in the same sense that a hotel or a bagel shop is. You pick your clients exactly the same way Annie Leibowitz does, you're just not as in demand as she is. You don't accept potential clients who want you to help them celebrate same sex marriages, and that's fine, nobody can make you."
They could and should do exactly that.
But I seriously doubt they will, because there are at least four, if not six, Justices who share an objective with the ADF: dismantling non-discrimination laws that protect LGBT people.
I disagree. I think custom website design is expressive. I think she should be able to exclude messages she doesn't agree with. All of this assumes custom design and not boilerplate, mind you. And I also think any public backlash due to her bigotry is earned.
Ack... "I agree."
But ruling that would be a smart step in the direction of that dismantlement. First you rule that not every business can be constitutionally locked up in the "public accommodation" manacles. Then you start whittling away at "public accommodations" until you've got them reduced to some defensible core, such as vital services that are local monopolies.
At that point you can stop, because very few people object to the only hotel or restaurant in a town being required to serve a stranded traveler. The real point of controversy has always been non-vital services, particularly where they're single proprietorships in competitive markets. "Just go next door!" is a very powerful argument for people who don't want to just bully the losers in a cultural war.
"The Swiss bank UBS announced today that it will commission the photographer Annie Leibovitz to do portraits of notable women. The new works will be a continuation of her 1999 series “Women,” shown first at the Corcoran Gallery of Art in Washington, D.C., and will join the 35,000 other pieces that form the firm’s art collection."
[2015]
https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/ubs-commissions-annie-leibovitz-to-photograph-notable-women-for-portrait-series-4764/#!
I disagree with Prof Blackman and think that Annie Leibovitz is a good example of when an artist truly has freedom. Most artists through history didn't have freedom to pick and choose. Even famous artist painted or sculpted what they were contracted to do whether they like the idea or not. If you chose to work in the marketplace, you also accept the rules of that marketplace. You don't have to do more for a gay couple, but you must do the same as you would for heterosexual couple.
Really, the fact that you operate in the marketplace means you give up your rights?
The NY Times, CNN and MSNBC would beg to differ.
Yes.
If you go from being a home kitchen to a commercial kitchen, you become beholden to various food and safety laws and regulations.
If you go from representing yourself in court to representing other people in court, you become beholden to the bar and all the fun ways lawyers hate lawyers.
If you go from photographing as a hobby to getting a job at the JC Penny Photo studio, you lose the right to refuse Mexicans because you're racist.
This isn't novel or new. In fact, it's quite old.
OK, but the quote in the post was this:
"The photographer Annie Leibovitz, for example, does not offer to take photographs of anyone who offers to pay her fee but chooses her subjects. She is perfectly free to photograph only white people or only Buddhists."
The issue isn't that she's a hobbyist and the Supreme Court petitioner is a professional, it's that high-end professionals have First Amendment rights and regular Joe(sephine)s don't.
Actually, the quote I responded to was:
That might help understand why I gave three examples of "giving up rights" related to going pro, and only one of the three was related to photography.
They have the same rights. There's no difference. Established artists that aren't also in the business of a public service don't have the responsibilities that come with a public service. However, if Annie were to sell her private creations publicly, she couldn't discriminate in who she sold them to.
Your argument seems to assume that people have a right to choose any profession they like and then perform that profession without any sort of pre-requisites or oversight that might complicate their choice. Need a license? That's violating my rights! Need qualifications? Violating my rights! Need auditing, health inspections, malpractice insurance? Violating my rights!
No one has a right to be in any specific profession. Each one comes with it's own hurdles and tradeoffs. 303 Creative thinks that's terribly unfair. She's especially upset because the Colorado law tells her she cannot post a sign saying "No Homo" on her website. 27 states say it's okay to discriminate against LGBT Americans. She should vote with her feet.
Yawn. The context is First Amendment rights. None of your examples speak to that.
So, Annie Leibovitz gets special rights because she's 'elite', and this other artist is just a stupid peasant. That's the tack you're taking on this?
That's the tack the ACLU takes.
Same attitude that allows world leaders to jet off in 400 private jets to a world climate conference in Cairo to plot how they should force the rest of us to reduce our carbon footprint.
To paraphrase an old Latin saying, "What is permitted to the gods is not permitted to cattle."
It's not because she is 'elite'.
It's because she is personally creating work of her own initiative, rather than serving as a contracted conduit for someone else's ideas/thoughts/etc.
If you bake privately and offer to bake cakes for friends and family for free or at cost, then you’re not a business and you don’t need to comply with the various regulations that apply to commercial bakeries. That doesn’t give you special rights versus commercial bakeries because the two of them are not equally situated.
If 303 Creative designed fabulous websites for heterosexual weddings, she wouldn’t have to make any for homosexual weddings provided that she, like Annie, create their art without customer input*. Both 303 Creative and Annie can sell their art to the public for profit and, in doing so, must both comply with any laws that govern that sale. In Colorado, that means both would have to sell to any customer without regard for race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. Neither would be forced to create anything for specific customers because neither would be in that business. But 303 Creative doesn’t work like that while Annie does (according to the OP), so the laws apply differently to them based on how they choose to engage with the public. There’s nothing special about that.
*I'm of the opinion that 303 Creative should be covered by the forced speech provision and be able to discriminate against LGBT customers in this case provided her designs are fully custom to each customer.
From the Thomas concurrence in Masterpiece bakeshop:
But this Court has repeatedly rejected the notion that a speaker’s profit motive gives the government a freer hand in compelling speech. See Pacific Gas & Elec., supra, at 8, 16 (collecting cases); Virginia Bd. of Pharmacy v. Virginia Citizens Consumer Council, Inc., 425 U. S. 748, 761 (1976) (deeming it “beyond serious dispute” that “[s]peech . . . is protected even though it is carried in a form that is ‘sold’ for profit”).
As a creative design professional, I reject your notion and also its premise.
No matter how hungry I might be for work, I always have the right to refuse it from anyone. I do not just have to take any proposed work that comes along whether I 'like the idea or not'. That isn't freedom at all - it's slavery.
"Annie Leibovitz is a good example"
2022 Annie Leibovitz is a good example of "true" freedom. Annie Leibovitz in 1971 was just a staffer at Rolling Stone. You think that the 1971 Annie Leibovitz shouldn't have any rights.
1971 Annie and 2022 Annie aren't engaged in the same business model and thus the impact of various regulations on different businesses will impact the two Annies differently.
You're basically saying a student working at a McDonalds drive-through in college and that same person 40 years later as an MD subject to malpractice law should be subject to the exact same business licensing and regulations or one of them doesn't "have any rights."
You don't really understand art do you?
Artists, for the most part, feel an emotional or intellectual connection to their subject. I don't think anyone asserts they can turn on or turn off their creativity with a switch.
Whether someone has an emotional connection to any given customer is not relevant from a free speech perspective.
What is relevant, here is *who* is doing the speaking - who's deciding what the message will be & to whom it will be communicated?
It's not the artist. The artist is merely a mechanism through which the customer speaks.
Cartoon artists at tourist spots have to feel an "emotional or intellectual connection to their subject?" The vast majority of artists making money on their art are probably employees and their creativity is turned on every morning when they trudge into work. The idea of being an artist is romantic but it isn't special. Being an established artist able to self-direct your own career like Annie is incredibly rare; the majority of them are probably working in marketing departments or user interface teams at tech firms or daily content creators for websites.
This is the narrow view that artist alone feel the connection to their work. Many people are connected to their work even when not considered "art". The American poet William Carlos Williams reportedly responded when questioned about his greatest work, saying that he had delivered more babies than any other Pennsylvanian pediatrician.
Why should questions about whether or not it’s a public accommodation be conflated with questions about whether or not it’s speech to create a special hybrid rule saying if it’s speech- intensive, then it isn’t a public accommodation? Why should speech-intensive with additional qualifiers make any difference?
The constitutional right to association might depend on whether or not something meets some federal concept of a public accommodation. But why should the right to free speech depend on this?
I want to distinguish arguments about whether large general public social media platforms should be considered common carriers or similar. In those cases, the debate is really about whose speech it is, who ought to be considered the real owner of the speech. There’s at least a good argument that the users who create the speech, not the platform that “curates” it, ought to be considered the real owners, and a social media company’s right to assert ownership over all speech created by its users simply by saying so in the fine print of the sign-in contract can be limited by government, just as the government has the right to limit other kinds of contracts that public policy might consider unfairly onerous.
Here, everybody agrees that if designing a wedding web site is speech, the web site designer is the speaker.
Because speech conducted for hire isn’t your personal speech. It’s the speech of your employer/customer.
The social-media thing has nothing to do with ownership of speech, and everything to do with the 1st Amendment only preventing censorship by governments.
Individuals and corporations have an absolute right to censor whatever they want on their property - and the website of a social media firm is absolutely the private property of that firm.....
But here, the website designer is collaborating with the customer on a project where the speech from both parties comprises the final product. The images chosen, how they relate to the overall product, the colors, fonts, and other elements are as much the creation of the designer as they are the customer. Most web design like this (and I'm professionally in this field) starts with a pre-curated collection of items that the designer pulls from to construct the final work. The customer provides some details and helps review and refine designs to come up with the final product. The customer is not (usually) dictating every single choice. The designer's expression is inherent in the result. Note that if this wasn't true, every designer would be able to create the exact same output given the same inputs and customer.
Also, if the designer creates boilerplate designs and sells them to anyone to customize on their own, then that's a different business model as they've turned an expressive design into a commodity item. They don't have to make gay marriage boilerplate but they do have to sell their wares to the general public in compliance with local law.
Do telephone companies have the right to censor phone calls transsmitted on their private property? Fedex can read everyone’s mail and throw away or alter mail it doesn’t approve of because it’s carrying the mail on its private property? Government has no power to require otherwise?
I found Cole's argument argument (which is made by many on his side of the debate over this case) to be strange and unsupported, though maybe I'm missing something. Is there a "public accommodation" exception to the First Amendment? Or any case law supporting such an exception? I'm not aware of one. I'd think that if the government required all businesses that serve the public to post a statement in support of Catholicism, or BLM, or abortion, or any other ideology, we'd all agree that violated the First Amendment regardless of whether these businesses are public accomodations. Likewise, I'd think we'd all agree that any argument that such statements were necessary to make Catholics, African-Americans, or women feel welcome in the business and not exclude them from the marketplace could not overcome the First Amendment. So I simply don't see the doctrinal basis for making someone's First Amendment rights turn on whether they're open to the public at large versus picking and choosing clients.
I suppose Cole could say his argument only applies to picking your clients, and does not apply to expression itself. But then the argument doesn't seem to add anything, as whether the website designer's conduct here is expression vs. conduct is addressed by other arguments made by both sides.
Finally, I was surprised by Cole's statement that Leibovitz "is perfectly free to photograph only white people or only Buddhists." If Leibovitz is just photographing random people as a hobby, without being paid, that might be true. But if we're talking about choosing someone to photograph and entering into a contract with them regarding the photos, I'd have thought that 42 USC 1981(b) required her to do that without engaging in racial discrimination, though (again) maybe there's case law on this issue that I'm not aware of.
It would be a hard argument to make that an artist's choice of subject when creating their own personal portfolio (eg, making art of their own initiative for future sale) is discriminatory.... Some level of creative freedom & personal preference has to be allowed....
Less so if that artist was offering their service for hire & declined to serve non-white customers. That one is pretty obvious.
One element of the brief is that Colorado law also makes it illegal to post notices saying you won't do business with x type of customer where those types are protected by anti-discrimination and/or public accommodation law. Posting a "no homo" sign or "no Irish need apply" or "no blacks at lunch counter" notice is also prohibited.
Only rich people [that I like] have rights. Very liberal!
ACLU - protecting the rights of the independently wealthy. Yeah, that's the right answer for a free society...
Re Goldsmith's argument about the Warhol paintings, she is right that fame has nothing to do with the derivative work privilege. She is, however, entirely wrong to conflate it with the distinctness of the famous artist's style. That very distinctness means that the work was transformed. The more distinct the artist's style, the more the photo was transformed into something no longer a photo. Goldsmith's argument is self-defeating.
And 'transformative' use is fair use under copyright law....
“A Virginia-based conservative Christian advocacy group was turned away from a local restaurant just an hour before their reservation last week.”
https://ktla.com/news/virginia-restaurant-refuses-service-to-conservative-advocacy-group/
One cannot help but note the liberal condemnation for the service provider in Colorado and the liberal applause for the service provider in the above situation out of Virginia. But hypocrisy has never meant anything to the liberal mob or people like our own “Rev.”
It’s not hypocrisy, it’s a matter of law. Sexual orientation IS a legally protected class in Colorado. Political viewpoint is NOT a legally protected class in Virginia
With the exception of Seattle, Washington DC, and maybe one or two other places it is *absolutely legal* for private businesses to discriminate against people based on their politics.
That is the difference.
The right-wing media, and the conservative group that went lunchless that day, are both trying to spin it as anti-Christian rather than disagreement over political positions.
The restaurant's position is that they don't want to expose their staff to assholes.
Religion has very much been a protected characteristic under public accommodation laws in the US. Calling it “political belief” so that it fits your needs doesn’t change that. The question is whether it’s worth their effort to sue.
They were being discriminated against because of their beliefs about marriage. As long as the restaurant would refuse to service those who share those beliefs from a secular viewpoint, it’s discrimination on the basis of belief, not religion.
"I'm not discriminating against you because you're Southern Baptist; I'm discriminating against you because you have Southern Baptist beliefs"? How is that any different than "I'm not discriminating against you because you're gay; I'm discriminating against you because you're marrying a man"?
No. They are discriminating against beliefs that are not intexricably linked to religion (they are held by people from both religious and secular viewpoints). In contrast, a man marrying a man is inextricably linked to being gay (with apologies to Adam Sandler and Kevin James).
A man marrying man is not inextricably linked to being gay, with direct reference to Adam Sandler and Kevin James. You'd have a stronger argument if I had said "having sex with a man" rather than "marrying a man," though even that wouldn't be dispositive.
I mean, you yourself have repeatedly cited the "wearing a yarmulke/being Jewish" one, but how is that any different than the Southern Baptist one?
The Sandler/James marriages are de minimis. Ditto for non-Jews wearing specifically yarmulkes (not head coverings). In contrast, there are plenty of people with secular-based beliefs opposed to same-sex marriage.
But let's say I am wrong (I am going to repeat this argument in the Open Thread). Then either:
1) Same-sex marriage is not inextricably linked to being gay and a limo driver refusing to serve a same-sex wedding isn’t breaking the law. Moreover, DOMAs and anti-same-sex sodomy laws don’t discriminate against gays.
2) Refusing to serve a group because they oppose same-sex marriage is inextricably linked to being religious. In that case, the application of anti-discrimination law to a limo driver who objects to serving a same-sex wedding on religious grounds is not neutral towards religion, and the limo driver wins his Free Exercise case.
I reject both outcomes. It sounds like you accept #1.
Dave_A hiding hypocrisy behind the law. What a pathetic and sad attempt to skirt a matter of principle: that all people should be free to choose to NOT engage with or service those they do not wish.
However, "has a reservation" ought to be a protected class.
To the contrary, every artist I follow --across numerous social media sites and art-specific sites-- do exactly that. They operate by commission, and do not accept all prospective commissioners.
And perhaps most critically, they do not purport (as 303 does) to be public accommodations.
Seriously? You think someone that exclusively operates their online-only business via Instagram and Twitter has an ADA responsibility under federal law?
That's... novel.
Second thought.
So long as the SCOTUS can look at a
smuggling operationcompany the size of Hobby Lobby and call it "closely held" with a straight face, I'm not sure why anyone should accept that.The Hobby Lobby case was an RFRA suit against a federal regulation, not an attempted end run around Employment Division v Smith using free-speech arguments….
Apples and oranges.
Apples and apples. The SCOTUS has demonstrated it has no sense of scale before. Any judgement that relies on a sense of scale is automatically suspect.
The term ‘closely held’ has nothing to do with scale and everything to do with how the corporation’s ownership is apportioned.
A company with 20 employees and one office that is listed on NASDAQ or NYSE is *not* closely held.
A company with 10,000 employees & offices in all 50 states, 100% owned by a sole proprietor or a single family is.
And insisting that it be treated with kid gloves like a mom & pop shop shows a remarkable lack of judgement when it comes to scope and scale.
This really isn't complicated. If it helps, remember that I don't share your values, priors, or respect for the legal profession.
A public accommodation *as it pertains to Colorado state Civil Rights Law*.....
That said, the ADA-on-the-web question is a (separate) open issue.
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/law_practice/publications/law_practice_magazine/2022/jf22/vu-launey-egan/
Cool beans bro. You clearly know more about this topic then Blackman, the writer of this article, does.
But instead of trying to put words into his mouth, why don't you test his theory by trying to sue an Instagram-only commission-based artist for violations of public accommodation laws? Hell, Instagram is available in all fifty states, so you can choose whichever jurisdiction you want.
I mean, I'm not sure precisely what "ADA responsibility" you mean to refer to, but at least 2 circuits explicitly hold that purely online businesses are places of public accommodation for Title III purposes.
every artist I follow –across numerous social media sites and art-specific sites– do exactly that. They operate by commission, and do not accept all prospective commissioners.
...and how, pray tell, do these prospective commissioners find the artists you follow?
The limiting principle should be that works created for-hire do NOT constitute personal speech by the artist – but rather by the client. The artist is merely the client’s chosen means of speech.
In the same sense that a lawyer’s advocacy of a client’s case does NOT equate to the lawyer agreeing with the client’s viewpoint (and lawyers must often argue positions they personally do not agree with, in order to fulfill their professional duty to their client)... There should be no free-speech 'issue' with requiring an artist to comply with antidiscrimination laws.
It should only be when an artist works on their own personal behalf and initiative (for example, creating paintings to offer for future sale), that the work constitutes their own personal speech.
Y'all keep saying shit like this.
With public defenders as the exception, it ain't true.
The rest of you have full agency in choosing your clients, and the only duty you have is one you have chosen. If you think your client is a racist jerk and don't want to defend them? You don't have to. For that matter, there is no lawyerly "duty" to put out racist, sexist, religiously-biased homophobic arguments just because you think they'd win the case. You are never obligated to make a "gay panic" defense even if it would work. If you do all that, it is 100% because you chose to do it, not because you had a "duty" to do so, and there is nothing wrong with saying "yep, that lawyer sure decided to put their whole ass on display there."
You completely miss the point in your rush to dive into 'bigotry' related material...
A lawyer arguing a case in court is legally acting on-behalf-of, and speaking *for* their client. They are not speaking for themselves.
Thus, compelling a lawyer to comply with non-discrimination law in choosing their clients is not a 1A violation.
In the same sense, a wedding-website-developer is not personally speaking when they create the website. They are being the client's mouthpiece. Compelling them to serve all customers again is not a 1A violation.
Not missed, ignored. Philosophically distinct.
And yes, I ignored your argument, because you prefaced it with a bullshit claim. If you don't want me to ignore your argument? Don't cover it in bullshit.
None of this is how it works. Were the Maynards speaking "on their own behalf"? Was the Miami Herald? Was PG&E?
You can't simply wipe out all compelled speech jurisprudence by saying, "Well, the state can require it because the speaker isn't speaking on his own behalf."
I mean, that's wrong. If the argument is non-frivolous, and beneficial to your client, you have a duty to make it as long as you represent the client. You can seek leave to withdraw, which may or may not be granted by the court, but you can't just say, "I don't like this argument so I won't make it."
So you're saying that in a jurisdiction that protects on the basis of political party or opinion, a speechwriter with strongly-held Democratic views and opinions may be compelled to write speeches for Donald Trump (or vice versa for Biden)? That would be even more clearly the candidate's speech and not the speechwriter's. Yet I can't think of anyone who would support the position that the speechwriter can be compelled to do that work. (And before you ask, yes there are speechwriters-for-hire who will do piece work.)
Extending your logic, authors have free speech rights but apparently publishers would not. So the pastor of Westboro Baptist could compel Penguin House to publish his racist rant? That seems wrong. So wrong that I have to conclude that your premise is bad. Speech-for-hire is speech by both the client and the artist. And therefore, both must be protected by freedom of speech principles.
Authors cannot compel publishing houses to publish their work unless the publisher accepts their book proposal and offers them a contract for publication. Publishers will not take on that obligation unless they accept the book idea as in line with their publishing focus and think they can make money on it. And if the author decides to stray away from the agreed premise midway through the development, they can cancel the contract and ask for return of any advance payments. Westboro can't make a publisher do anything they don't want to do.
I always thought a model based on customization is reasonable. If 303 Creative offered a stock website that was basically fill in the blank there would probably be a claim for discrimination. She only offers custom websites though. so she should have the right to decide who she works for.
Much like a restaurant. You are free to order from the menu but off menu orders are up to the chef.
We aren't sure what she offers because no customer has complained. At oral arguments, Smith's lawyer said a stock website where she has to fill in the names of the couple is compelled speech. If the couple fills in their names (and everything else on the pre-made boilerplate) there isn't compelled speech.
This is the part that gets me, too. No one sued her. She got (presumably) free legal assistance from a known anti-LGBT activist legal organization with the goal of chipping away at LGBT civil rights by giving the right-wing US Supreme court the opportunity to declare Christians immune from anti-discrimination law.
Whatever happens in this case, I just remind myself that conservative Christians are a dwindling group in this country and this is their “use it or lose it” moment before their political clout is took weak to run roughshod over their chosen scapegoats.
Hmmm, your first paragraph sounds like how Griswald v Connecticut got started on its way to the US Supreme Court. Sauce for the goose etc etc.
One woman’s anti-LGBT rights is another’s religious freedom. We’re just arguing about one version of morality versus another. If only we could find a way to compromise.
If conservative Christians really are a dwindling group, then they need additional protections for their beliefs. The ascendant majority doesn't usually need protecting.
“If only we could find a way to compromise.”
Here’s a simple solution: if someone does not want to do business with you, take your business elsewhere. Unless the someone has a monopoly, or is providing services that are crucial and urgent for life (like a hospital) or some other similar very compelling reason, the State should not get involved.
But if we adopt that principle, how are the left to enjoy crushing their enemies, and listening to the lamentations of their women?
But according to the designer, she doesn’t do stock websites. Customization is her thing–the core of her menu–at least as far as the sites she has actually produced for customers are concerned. If customization and “speech” are her primary offering in wedding sites to the general public as services, how can it *not* be discrimination to provide it for everyone except customers in a protected class that she doesn't believe should exist as married people? Either step up to the plate, or limit your offerings to products you are willing to customize for everyone. Nobody is forcing you to start adding wedding sites to your portfolio.
Blackman writes, “And fame is not a ticket for special First Amendment exemptions.” I would think this principle would rule out the existence of the “public figures” category created by NY Times v. Sullivan, although in that case it’s the non-famous people who get extra First Amendment protection the famous don’t get.
That's not the same thing, as you well know. Public figure law concerns the subject of a potential defamatory article, not the publisher or speaker. The same newspaper can write articles about two different people, one a public figure and one not, and be treated to different legal standards under Sullivan.
The big business versus small business distinction shouldn’t matter for speech or religion. The text says “Congress shall make no law abridging …”.
It’s a group right of large organizations the same way it’s an individual right. It applies to any and all, because the language restricts Congress from acting against any and all.
"But the choice to benefit from the public marketplace comes with the legal obligation to equally serve members of the public. "
I'm armed, in accordance with my State's law. I would like to order lunch.
Things our website designer could do to make money besides making wedding websites (so that the websites she does make would not violate her speech, which seems to be the argument at hand – that her art and income are intrinsically codependent): become a dogwalker, cleaner, dishwasher, chef, restauranter, celebrity agent, professional hockey player, Zamboni driver, zamboni mechanic…Claiming you have been forced to make speech against your beleifs since you want to only make money off your “art” is specious, at best. Petitioner wants to sell wedding websites (which we all admire in the met!) She also wants to make money off it. Good! Make websites for whoever you want! Reach out to couples you chose about it! But once you advertise making wedding websites to anyone, as long as they aren’t (a protected class), you become ‘artistically’ constrained in who you can turn away. Income has nothing to do with this case. The income argument is a distraction. I look forward to the next case about how I want to be a photographer, and I love photographing people, but since I only accept commissions from white, or any race but black, pedophiles, black pedophiles are being discriminated against. My family will be destitute without the constitutional right to only accept photography commissions from non-black pedophiles.