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Pseudonymity Allowed to Relatives Suing Grindr Over Minor's Suicide
The court cites the relatives' privacy interests, and in particular the risk of "harassment by the adults alleged to have committed sexual crimes against the decedent" (and who aren't named as defendants in the case).
From R.V. v. Grindr, LLC, decided Wednesday by Magistrate Judge Patricia Barksdale (M.D. Fla.); the underlying lawsuit chiefly claims that Grindr should have done more to prevent minors from using its services:
The plaintiff sues on behalf of the estate of a minor who allegedly used the defendant's services marketed to gay, bi, trans, and queer people and, through that use, was exposed to, and engaged in, sexual activities and relationships with adult users, resulting in severe emotional distress and bodily injuries culminating in death from a self-inflicted gunshot wound….
The survivors are two people, including the plaintiff. Off the public docket, the plaintiff has or will disclose the full names to the defendant. The defendant has no opposition.
The court acknowledged that there's a strong presumption in favor of parties suing in their own names, but concluded that it was rebutted here:
[Here, t]he information directly involves the decedent, not the plaintiff or the survivors. The plaintiff does not argue that revealing the full names of the plaintiff and the survivors necessarily will reveal the full name of the decedent.
Rather, the plaintiff asserts a privacy interest of the plaintiff and the survivors themselves considering the "uniquely sensitive and personal issues in this matter." The plaintiff argues not personal embarrassment but social stigma that would result from disclosing the decedent's sexuality and sexual conduct. The plaintiff also contends that, if full names are revealed, the plaintiff and the survivors may face physical harm and harassment by the adults alleged to have committed sexual crimes against the decedent.
The totality of the circumstances in this unique litigation warrants [allowing plaintiffs to proceed pseudonymously]. The litigation involves "matters of a sensitive and highly personal nature," and, thus, the "customary practice" of disclosing full names "yields" to the "policy of protecting privacy in a very private matter." The decedent was a minor at all relevant times. The plaintiff and the survivors may not show a real threat of physical harm, but they do show a real risk of something that may be equally as menacing in today's cyberworld: harassment by the adults alleged to have committed sexual crimes against the decedent. The defendant does not oppose the relief, will know the full names, and will not be hampered in obtaining discovery for its defense. And the public will be able to understand the litigation and evaluate the rulings even without knowing the full names….
This order makes no ruling about how the jury trial will be conducted. At the final pretrial conference or as otherwise directed by the Court, the parties must be prepared to discuss whether this decision should be revisited in light of how the litigation has progressed and, if not, how as a practical matter anonymity will be accomplished during the trial.
Neither the decision nor the motion offered any details about why this "harassment" is likely to flow from naming the plaintiffs in a lawsuit against Grindr, even though a considerable amount of caselaw states that, for risk of physical harm to plaintiffs to justify pseudonymity, there needs to be real evidence of such a risk (see Part III.A of The Law of Pseudonymous Litigation).
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"The plaintiff does not argue that revealing the full names of the
plaintiff and the survivors necessarily will reveal the full name of the decedent. Rather, the plaintiff asserts a privacy interest of the plaintiff and the survivors themselves considering the “uniquely sensitive and personal issues in this matter.” Doc. 11 at 4. The plaintiff argues not personal embarrassment but social stigma that would result from disclosing the decedent’s sexuality and sexual conduct. Doc. 11 at 5. The plaintiff also contends that, if full names are revealed, the plaintiff and the survivors may face physical harm and harassment by the adults alleged to have committed sexual crimes against the decedent."
That seems rather flimsy to me and other similar cases that have been presented here that had a "may face harm or harassment" excuse have been denied.
I would think others who abused a minor would choose to shut up and slink away and cross their fingers, rather than double down on attention to themselves with harrassment or punching daddy.
But they would be a third party not part of this case, i.e., they're not suing Grindr.
"I want a whole shit-ton of money off of my kid's death, but please don't name me!"
I don't think the anonymity is right, but also this cause of action is insane. So if the minor was able to use Grinder he certified he was an adult. He then chose to meet up with adults and chose to kill himself. The adults might be criminally or civilly liable because sex with a minor is ultra strict liability, but they're not defendants because I'm guessing they're broke. And there's really nothing Grindr or any other dating site can do about age declaration fraud.
So this is a classic case of a tragedy happening and plaintiff's lawyers looking for the nearest entity with a deep pocket to sue. The surviving relatives should be looking in the mirror, how the hell does a minor get on Grindr and become such a heavy user that it drives him to the point of suicide without the adults in his life realizing it? If anybody's liable for not controlling this young man's choices, it's them. Ridiculous.
"So if the minor was able to use Grinder he certified he was an adult."
I was wondering about that. How did a minor get onto such a website? I would think it would be adults only, although I have no direct knowledge of it.
Perhaps the plaintiffs could argue an attractive nuisance argument. Does not sound like the site has much in the way of control over whether its users are adults. Merely asking, "Are you over 18," and when someone clicks "Yes" letting them in is not enough. I doubt a bar, for example, would be allowed to get away with that. So the argument might be, your age controls are simple and inadequate, and your site is the kind that attracts under-age gays, where they can be subject to emotional or even sexual abuse.
Whether that argument holds water legally or factually, I can't say.
This would be an argument that proves too much. Grinder isn’t unique, it operates like every other dating site– you say what your birthdate is and they let you in if you’re of the age of majority.
The apparatus to actually verify ages would be immensely complicated. Picture of an ID won’t work, that could be anybody’s ID or photoshopped. So basically you’d need everybody who wants to use Grindr to go to the bank, get a notarized letter that they’re really YourNutMyButt (or whatever their handle is), confirm their birth date, send in a photocopy of the ID and the notary would confirm it really is that person, then once the notarized letter is received by grindr the account is approved. This is a tremendous amount of work to guard against underage minors being on a site they shouldn’t be and would effectively destroy all dating sites, not just grindr. It might also destroy all the interactive elements of sites where you can talk to someone, such as reddit or even reason-- after all a minor could always pick up a guy here. Rather than destroy adult sites to prevent the children from using them, the burden is quite properly placed on the parents. The relatives here deserve to lose.
I'm sorry, but this sounds like a 'tell me you don't understand how the internet works without telling me you don't understand how the internet works' sort of post. How do you imagine a website would do a good age verification?
This sounds like somebody wants to be paid for being a shit parent and not being involved in their kid's life.