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9/11/2001 in Staten Island, New York
My annual remembrance of September 11, 2011
I post this essay every year in honor of September 11th, 2001 (see 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021).
Every generation has a defining moment. For my generation, it was 9/11/2001.
Here are my memories of 9/11/2001. It was a Tuesday.
I was a Senior at Staten Island Technical High School, which is about 20 miles from ground zero. We were about 1 week into the school year. I was sitting in Ms. Endriss's 2nd Period A.P. Political Science class. We were going over some NYC Public School discipline policy, and discussing what kinds of weapons were forbidden in schools (brass knuckles were a no-no). A student walked into the classroom late. He had heard a rumor that a Cessna airplane had hit the World Trade Center. A girl in my class exclaimed that her father worked in the World Trade Center. I could see the look of fear in her eyes, even though none of us had any clue what was going on. She wanted to call her dad. I was the only student in the class with a cell phone, which I promptly gave her. The call did not go through–he worked on one of the upper floors of the tower, and passed away.
We finished second period, apprehensively. I logged onto a computer, and attempted to check the news. I recall one friend told me to check MTV.com for news. At that point, the reports were unclear, and no one knew what was going on. We proceeded to 3rd period A.P. Calculus with Mr. Curry. At that point, someone told us that it was not a Cessna, but in fact a passenger jet. We were all getting nervous, and didn't quite know what was going on. Later in class, a student came into the class and said a second plane had crashed into the other tower. We also heard that there was an explosion at the Pentagon. At that point, we knew it was not an accident.
I remember leaving the class (something I never did) and walked up to the library where I knew there was a T.V. Just as I arrived in the library, I saw the first tower collapse. I watched it live. I was stunned and could not believe what was happening before my eyes. I grabbed my cellphone to call home, and almost immediately after the tower collapsed, I lost all service. I was not able to call my mom in Staten Island, though I could call my dad who was working in Long Island. Long distance calls seemed to work, but local calls were not working. I remember my dad told me that this was a life-changing event, and he had no idea what would happen. I heard some rumors on TV that there were 15 planes that were hijacked, and unaccounted for in the skies.
By lunch time, the school guidance counselor set up a conference room where students could go to talk. I remember seeing student after student who had a family member or friend who worked in the World Trade Center or in Manhattan. A large number of firefighters and police officers reside in Staten Island. Tragically, many of the emergency responders who perished were from Staten Island. What could we even tell those students?
After that, the day become a blur. I remember hearing that the second tower had collapsed, though I did not see it. I remember watching the entire United States Congress sing God Bless America on the steps of the Capitol. I had never been so afraid in my life. Later that night, I took a bus home. The New York City public buses were still running, and I remember the driver was not collecting fares. On the bus, people were talking about the imminent war (against whom, no one knew) and the imminent draft. Some were saying that students were exempt from the draft.
The next morning, September 12, 2001, I woke up and smelled this horrible smell. The air had this pungent odor, that reminded me of burned flesh at a BBQ. I went to school that morning, and attendance was low. In all of my classes, we were talking about war. I asked whether the US would need to use nuclear weapons. My teacher explained that carpet bombing–a phrase I had never heard of–could wreak plenty of damage in Afghanistan. Later that week students began making sandwiches for the relief workers, and collecting goods to donate to the relief effort.
From Staten Island, I could see the smoldering Ground Zero. It was surreal. The skyline looked so very empty. To this day, whenever I look at the Skyline, a sight I had seen thousands of times, I have the most bizarre feeling. Additionally, whenever we saw an airplane fly overhead, we all freaked out. This lasted for months.
For days, weeks, and months after 9/11, people in Staten Island were waiting for their loved ones to come home. Many patients were alive, but were so badly burned that they could not be identified. People prayed that these unnamed patients would soon come home. One woman whose husband was a firefighter waited outside her home every single night for months. She eventually put a candle in her window every night. Later, she put a memorial lamp in her window. He never came home. Others were simply waiting for remains of their loved ones to be returned. Many were never identified.
I ordered a gas mask from eBay, which I kept in my car, fearing a biological weapon attack on New York City. I remember I tried it on once and I almost suffocated. I wanted to order some Cipro for an anthrax attack, but I could not locate any.
It is hard to encapsulate what a New Yorker went through on 9/11. Thinking back on that day, when I was just 17 years old, I realized that I had to grow up awfully quick. It was a new world we were living in.
Never forget. Ever.
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That day broke with the clearest, brightest blue sky and then.....
No, you did not “have to grow up awfully quick”. Drama queen whining.
The idea that we were “living in a different world” caused us to demonize Islam, get defrauded into attacking the wrong country, and quickly lose the worldwide sympathy we had on 9/12.
Not hard to demonize the demonic
Islam is demonic? Ok, bigot, suit up for your dumbass crusade.
You could have sympathy you know....
Sympathy for the devil?
I have sympathy, of course, for the victims and their families.
I don't have sympathy for the attitude Josh acquired, and not only him, but millions of others, including almost all of the American political world. That attitude caused far more death and destruction than what happened on 9/11.
9/11 should have been treated as a police matter. It was a crime hatched by a handful of bad men. They should have been tracked down and brought to justice. Without any talk about a "clash of civilizations". And of course the crass indifference the Bush Administration showed toward the danger of terrorism should have been highlighted and punished, instead of tip-toed around.
Sure. Maybe we should have sent the FBI to Tora Bora with search warrants.
Killing then would have been fine. Which is what happened when a competent Administration took over in 2009.
Didn't you argue above that it should be treated as a law enforcement matter?
I guess by "law enforcement" you were referring to Waco and Ruby Ridge under the previous "competent" administration.
Upgrading to assassination means it wasn't a "police matter" in the first place, of course. Unless you think MPD should be doing airstrikes and targeted killings against, say, suspected drug dealers in the US? No?
But even if it were: Killing how, precisely?
It took a crapton of people working their asses off for 10 years to find bin Laden in Pakistan, which was a US ally and generally cooperating.
You think a Taliban-run Afghanistan would helped the US find and target him?
Not to mention - where, exactly, was any raid supposed to launch from? Afghanistan? Pakistan? Ha! Russia? China? Iran?!
Your ignorance is almost blinding here. Do you even think for a few seconds before you spew out your comments here?
So if the actual work of tracking the guy for ten years until they caught him worked, then what were the invasions? Bread and circuses for the masses? Obscene profits for assorted corporate crooks? Imagine if the US had just tenaciously pursued the guy to the ends of the earth without the corrupt wasteful wars. It'd break your heart thinking of it.
A "police matter"?
The proper response to the largest attack on American soil by a foreign power since at least WWII....if not the war of 1812....is a "police matter"?
It was not an attack by a foreign power.
Al Qaeda was, and is, a foreign power.
The phrase is not just a synonym for "non US nation", despite your ignorant prejudice.
It's been defined otherwise in law since at least the 1970s, and in popular usage since the 18th century.
Al Qaeda is best described as an inconvenient state-like organization, of which there are many in the world. Bond novels are infested with them. Absent a special agent with the puissance of Bond, we need to think systematically about how to deal with those. So far, confusion and conflation have ruled the debates.
Where was al Qaeda on the map?
There were 19 men involved, most of them Saudi nationals. The police work was clear.
Afghanistan.
No; there were hundreds of men involved. Not clear why you think it matters what their nationality was.
"There were 19 men involved, most of them Saudi nationals. The police work was clear."
No... Just No....
If you honestly believe the actions of 9/11 were just and only due to "19 men" this is on the order of of people who deny the Holocaust occurred
The reason that the term "foreign power" is used, rather than terms such as "foreign nation", is because the term is often not used to refer to a nation state. It hasn't been required to do so for at least centuries, and in law since at least the 1970s. I'm repeating this, because you didn't seem to read it - or maybe the words were too complicated for you.
Al-Qaeda, in 2001, had somewhere between 30,000 and 50,000 direct members, mostly located in central Asia and MENA. Some of its units were also formal units in the Taliban Army - see Brigade 055 for the biggest example. I'm sure the police would have been very useful trying to arrest entire military units.
Affiliated groups, which participated in such activities as the attack on the USS Cole or the US Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, accounted for tens of thousands more members.
You claim is so stupid, it's remarkable even for someone as ignorant as you are.
You do realize that those 19 people didn't even include bin Laden, right? He didn't teleport off the planes at the last second, you know.
You've got to understand captcrisis's perverse thought process.
He's so politically motivated that distinct facts just get ignored or denied for the common cause. It's like Iranian politicians who say the Holocaust didn't occur...because to admit it would be to concede some point in favor of the Jews, and might interrupt their thought process in criticizing them.
So, like those Iranian politicians who deny the Holocaust, captcrisis has convinced himself that 9/11 was just a simple criminal act of 19 individuals, who just all happened to die in the attack. By deluding himself, he can continue on his inaccurate hate-spree.
Sure it was.
Afghanistan was not Al Queda. No, the attack was not by a foreign power,
Doesn’t mean plenty of countries didn’t have a lot to answer for, but you are being over dramatic. About 9-11, so you are in good company,
Yes, it was an attack by a foreign power. The phrase exists and is used because it does not need to refer to a nation state.
As for Afghanistan, the Al Qaeda headquarters was there, the leadership was there, most of the members were there, the infrastructure (such as training facilities) was there.
Also, the Taliban employed Al Qaeda troops as part of its military.
Hard to pretend that Al Qaeda was not located in Afghanistan, with the government's knowledge and open support, when that's going on. People like you can always delude yourselves into trying, though.
Indeed. Additionally, it should be noted that when the US government demanded that Al Qaeda's members be turned over to the US government for their crimes during 9/11....Afghanistan's government refused.
This type of cute legal ploy where a foreign organization can kill thousands of US citizens, but not "officially" be part of the foreign government...but the foreign government also conveniently won't immediately extradite the criminals, and instead protects them...doesn't work.
As always, Sarcastro needs items defined for him.
https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/foreign-power
As always, who’s your work:
1) a foreign government or any component thereof, whether or not recognized by the United States; (2) a faction of a foreign nation or nations, not substantially composed of United States persons; (3) an entity that is openly acknowledged by a foreign government or governments to be directed and controlled by such foreign government or governments; (4) a group engaged in international terrorism or activities in preparation therefor?
Which of these was it?
Do you need help reading the definition of foreign power, and which of those may fit the definition of the organization that hit the US on 9/11?
We can argue about #2, but do you seriously not think #4 is dead on?
Any President wo did not invade Afghanistan would have been publicly hung. It was the only acceptable answer. Now should we have stayed 20 years? No. Our mission should have been confined to the death of Bin Laden and his adherents, and the total destruction of the Taliban.
Frankly I think we should have brought down the Saudi's as well considering the nationality of the hijackers, but we should never have got into the "Nation Building" business.
Reasonable to strong points all.
"9/11 should have been treated as a police matter."
What nonsense. It was effectively an act of war carried out in the name of the world's largest religious sect.
When you cannot distinguish that from a "police matter" then you have openly discarded any moral authority that you might think that you possess.
Captcrisis' tone could use some refinement, and writing in response to a personal remembrance of tragedy is not the best for it. However, the substance is correct.
Of course the biggest mistakes were the war in Iraq, and staying in Afghanistan after the first year. But don't forget domestic disasters like the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, the Transportation Safety Administration, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, and a nationwide effort to encourage otherwise innocuous people to participate in "terrorist" plots conceived and led by FBI personnel.
best for it ---> best place for it
The FISC was established in the 1970s.
"Of course the biggest mistakes were the war in Iraq"
That goes without saying. It was the worst US foreign policy blunder in my lifetime.
"staying in Afghanistan after the first year"
That is highly questionable. As for staying 20 years, that is another matter.
I remember a triage center being set up at a local Jersey shore hospital - never saw a patient that day or later. Watched the black smoke streaming south in the clear blue sky. Always remember!
Western leaders allowed militant Islam to win immediately, a generation ago, by changing our way of life after the 9/11 attacks, yet denying the true nature of Islamic pestilence. The British did not hide in the cellar when Irish nationalists created “the troubles,” but the whole modern world cowered and cried in the face of one day of attack on 9/11. A once proud financial capital mourned, dithered, and changed in response to the felling of the twin towers, when a resilient city would have rebuilt the buildings immediately with their previous appearance to show the medieval goat herders that modern society was stronger than their evil. Foolish presidents and prime ministers waged war in a land that has never been governed and claimed they could spread “democracy” while enriching arms makers, beggaring a generation of volunteer warfighters, and squandering the earnings of ordinary tax payers. And the enemies of freedom watched and waited, strengthening their hand in collusion with globalists and silly economists who ignored the virtues of economic nationalism and self-sufficiency.
Now, a generation later, the West lacks the resources, resilience, and will to stave off the looming depression, and fiddles as disaster approaches. God help us.
Our economy is bad because we never truly committed to the everwar with part of Islam?
A dozen or so links to identical musings?
That could lead to a 175-page resume with no heft . . . and being mired at South Texas College of Law Houston.
9/11 was a natural consequence of elevating GWB/Cheney to the presidency.
The prior administration spent much of its time on terrorism. They tried to warn their successors in the starkest terms possible, but there was no interest. That was a liberal, Clinton thing and if the incoming presidential team had any one coherent policy it was that we do not do liberal, Clinton things. So no more daily briefings. Demote Richard Clark. Draw up maps for Iraqi oil fields and pipelines through Afghanistan. Condi Rice studiously ignored all the warning bells the security apparatus was ringing with all their might, only to be blamed for "intelligence failures" after the fact.
Of course they were cunning enough not to allow any national crisis go to waste, and committed us to trillions of dollars of conflict for the next 20 years. Halliburton made out OK with plenty of no-bid contracts and so did Erik Prince and others like him. So there's that.
Did I mention that "America's Mayor" tried to suspend the next Mayoral election so he could stay in power? Sound familiar? A noun, a verb, then nine one one.
If there is any life transformation to be drawn from the events of 9/11 it should be the recognition of the total, fetid, corrupt nature of the American nationalist neocon right wing. Of course any adult with functional objective reasoning should have come to that conclusion before but that is just not the American demographic.
Have a good day.
Well put.
You might add that Clinton’s serious attempt (a near miss) to get bin Laden in 1998 was regarded by the media as a “wag the dog” attempt to distract from the true threat to national security, that blotch of semen on an intern’s dress.
IIRC it was specifically Lindsey Graham who warned Clinton off.
You might be thinking of Graham criticizing Obama for trying (successfully) to find bin Laden.
No - I recall Clinton mentioning that he had been specifically warned about wagging the dog and IIRC he mentioned Lindsey Graham.
I didn't recall that sanctimonious prick warning Obama, though.
My brother Anthony was working for Fiduciary Trust on the 94th floor of the South Tower. He saw the plane hit the North Tower and for some reason decided to evacuate there and then. He told his colleagues to go with him, and most did. He was able to take the elevator down and get out, and he said he just continued walking once he was out of the building.
Lucky for him he followed his instinct rather than instructions.
Yup. Morgan Stanley's (or rather, mostly Dean Witter's) employees at the WTC were almost all saved because the head of security at MSDW, Rick Rescorla had previously gamed out such possible threats and instructed people to leave rather than, as so many other firms were told to, stay at their desks. Sadly, he was killed - the building collapsed as he was going back to check that everyone had left.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rescorla
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/02/11/september-11th-attacks-world-trade-center-rick-rescorla-the-real-heroes-are-dead
I liked the book _102 Minutes_ about the events in and around the towers during the time from impact to collapse.
I don't regret the invasion of Afghanistan. I regret that Americans stayed there 20 years. We could have declared victory and left much sooner. I credit Trump for finally starting the process. I do not blame Biden for the swift collapse of the worthless government we had been propping up. I was surprised to read that the former finance minister of Afghanistan was driving an Uber around DC and not living like a prince off stolen money.
I recommend the song "Dress Blues" by Jason Isbell about the war in Iraq. "What did they say when they shipped you away to fight somebody's Hollywood war?"
My now ex-wife's brother-in-law worked at the Pentagon at that time. I had just been outsourced yet again and was home that morning. She had come home from work, pretty much everyone in the Pittsburgh region did as the news broke that Flight 93 may have been heading our way. An hour or so after the Pentagon attack my wife's sister called to say should could not get in contact with her husband. They lived in Arlington at the time. She was in a blind panic.
We told her if she didn't get in touch with him in the next hour, we were getting into the car and driving down. An hour came and went, and we climbed into the car and left. About an hour and a half into the drive she called us to say he was home so we turned around.
Turns out the Pentagon's phone service and the local cell system was down. No cars were being allowed out of the lost where he parked so he decided to walk the 5 or 6 miles home.
Later that evening we ended up meeting with two FBI agents over some suspicions we had about someone, but that's a different story.
I respect just-the-facts stories like this. Without intoning any great "lessons".
For a brief, shining period, US right wingers acted as if New Yorkers were Real Americans.
And Trump boasted he now owned the tallest building in Manhattan.
And the US decided it was OK to torture and detain without trial.
And pundits had hot takes of the sort that every now and then the US had to take a smaller, weaker country and shove it up against a wall to show who's boss.
You can't attack the US, harbor, or sympathize someone who does, and not expect massive retaliation. To not do so is the ultimate dereliction of duty.
Yeah that worked out great.
Hence the reason you never engage in "limited war". Did the US do that in Europe or Japan in WW2? The fire bombing of Dresden and Tokyo, and the eventual atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki would say otherwise.
When a nation makes the decision to go to war the only goal is the destruction of the enemy, not its containment. If you are unwilling to use any and all means at your disposal to achieve total victory as quickly as possible, while conserving the lives of your own people and troops to the greatest extent possible, then do not go in the first place.
From the morning of 9/12 the US should have begin the systematic destruction of every city, village, and crossroads in Afghanistan accompanied with the message it will all stop with the handover of Bin Laden, his associates, and the leadership of the Taliban. The same should have been done in Saudi Arabia until the entire religiously fanatical system of government there ceased to exist.
This should have been followed up by a system of "de-Islamization" much like the de-Nazification program following WW2, at which point we left, with a promise to return in force if things go sideways again.
That's not war, that's war crimes.
Just what would you have done about KSA?
It was and still is the head of the Islamist snake. Mr Biden is as cozy with the snake as any of his predecessors.
I expect step one would be 'stop being cosy with them.'
Who attacked? Certainly nobody that we retaliated against. Unless you wait for Obama to arrive and bin Laden was finally seriously pursed and then killed.
A group of depraved men, mostly Saudis, commanded by a Saudi and funded by the Saudis, with ties to the Saudi government and state-protected Saudi religious nuts, attacked the United States . . . so we coddled the Saudis and attacked the Iraqis.
American officials were still kissing Saudi ass nearly two decades later.
“the Almighty Dollar”
The same "Almighty Dollar" you work for?
No
I could have made $$$ being a racist,
misogynist homophobe. But instead I find myself ruined at age 65 and unemployable despite everyone acknowledging my legal skills and work ethic. My life insurance expires in 10 days and there’s no suicide exclusion at this point. My wife is unemployable and my kids have loads of college loans that I told them I could help with (when in fact I can’t). What would you do?
Why are you ruined and unemployable?
I originally interned for a judge who was an old friend of my father. He was nice but it was clear that he could only help me if I became a Republican. He would use the n-word in casual conversation. Not unusual in the subculture I grew up in. The skills I had (good writer, attention to detail) were scarce in my subculture and I could have made a bundle. But I would have had to play that game.
I got a job with a firm that did work for the Catholic Church and some insurance companies. After I took over from my retiring bosses in 2012 (with the help of a lot of loans) I ran the business better, and never got a complaint. But it's a rough business. I don't know if someone talked to someone at a country club, but cases were no longer coming to me, and finally got taken away wholesale, and I couldn't get them to even answer my phone messages as to what was happening. While this was happening a major client changed ownership and decided to stop paying its bills. By the time I had to close up the firm in 2019 I had expended my entire 401k to make payroll the last few months. If the business had gone on two more years, I could have paid off the bank and finally brought in the kind of income a law firm partner can expect. Instead, I'm in hock to the IRS, and the bank is garnishing what few wages I can generate from piecework.
So . . . I'm healthy with nothing in my past (no drug abuse, expensive divorce, etc.) But I'm 65, with no helpful connections, and with a resume that makes it look like I took a long-established (albeit small) law firm and ran it into the ground. What would you do?
Wow....sounds horrible, captcrisis. What would I do? Great question. I think as the Brits say, "Press on, regardless'. There really is no other viable choice, is there?
I hope everything works out for you.
I guess that explains your ranting and raving.
As for "I could have made $$$ being a racist, misogynist homophobe" I find it hard to believe. Why don't you enlighten us all.
" And Trump boasted he now owned the tallest building in Manhattan. "
First, I hope that is a joke. I doubt even Trump would do that.
Second, if he did say it . . . when did Trump buy the Empire State Building?
I doubt Trump Tower is in the top 50, although I could be wrong.
40 Wall, which at one point was the tallest building in the world - in the early 1900s. I worked next to it, at 44 Wall, for a few years.
Trump said it was the tallest in Lower Manhattan.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-bragged-tallest-building/
IIRC, Trump's claim was that he owned the tallest building in downtown Manhattan, referring to 40 Wall Street. Whether that was accurate or not, I don't know.
But of course the Right Rev. Costco can't be bothered with facts.
Do you contend Trump's statement (if it was made) was accurate?
Trump Tower (his pride and joy, homebase) is a molehill by Manhattan standards. Top 50? Hell, it might not even be in the top 100.
As I noted above, Trump was referred to 40 Wall, not Trump Tower.
Some real Americans. National anthem at Met Life stadium.
https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1569008604467929090
This link is not political in any way, despite the source. It has to be the most tone-deaf, idiotically stupid thing I have ever seen a business do to "commemorate" this or any other national tragedy.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/restaurants-attempt-honor-9-11-victims-angers-some-customers
Wow. That sure is tasteless... so to speak.
Blackman, it wasn't about you. It's not about you now.
SL,
True, but mean-spirited.
Cool story bro.
More people need to retell their personal accounts of those days because the official proceedings don't reflect the actuality and gravity of what occurred.
Also if you couldn't find Cipro in NYC in 2001 then you probably didn't try that hard to find it. It literally took no effort to get a secondary source who would readily sell it to you for a decent cash price.
Ah yes, the 2001 anthrax scare. Thank goodness the FBI solved that.
Blackman,
Nobody (aside from you) needs or wants links to every previous post of the exact same 'essay.'
Narcissism is not a good look.
The next morning, September 12, 2001, I woke up and smelled this horrible smell.
It's called living on Staten Island.
Your point?
"9/11 should have been treated as a police matter."
You are such an asshole. As always the Queen of obfuscation.
So sending in Seal Team Six to kill Bin Laden was a "police matter"?
The bigot in you never has a problem lumping all 2,3 billion Christians together.
During the US Civil War, more whites died fighting the Confederacy then all minority groups put together. By similar argument, don't blame whites for slavery?
Just to be clear, who blamed all Muslims?
Your projecting and reading more into it than I said. You don't think attacks on innocent people are demonic?
Would you like an example, Mr. Bumble?
Gee, you're soooo smart you pompous twit. He knows what he said, I know what he said and so do you. He wanted it treated like Clinton treated the first Trade Center bombing in 1993.
She never has a point except to be contraian