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Religious Freedom and the Respect for Marriage Act
If it becomes law, the Respect for Marriage Act would reassure millions of Americans about the legal status of their families and might set a successful bipartisan precedent for religious liberty
The proposed Respect for Marriage Act (RMA) would repeal the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA). It would also provide for both federal and interstate recognition of same-sex marriages validly entered in a state. The RMA passed the House with 47 Republican votes and awaits action in the Senate, where it will need at least ten Republican votes to survive a filibuster.
My co-blogger Ilya Somin has already addressed some of the interesting federalism aspects of the bill. I want to address here a particular religious-liberty dimension of the bill: its silence about the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA).
Members of Congress concerned about the effects of federal law on religious liberty, and about the myriad unanticipated ways legislation may burden religious exercise, have long been reassured by knowing that RFRA (42 U.S.C. 2000bb et seq.) provides a statutory floor of protection. As explained below, RMA is subject to RFRA's statutory protections for religious liberty, unlike other prominent civil rights proposals under consideration in the Senate.
RFRA provides: "Government shall not substantially burden a person's exercise of religion even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability," unless it demonstrates that application of the burden "furthers a compelling governmental interest" and is the "least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest." §2000bb–1.
RFRA applies by its terms to "all Federal law, and the implementation of that law, whether statutory or otherwise, and whether adopted before or after November 16, 1993." §2000bb–3 (a). The proposed RMA, of course, is one such federal statute.
RFRA further specifies: "Federal statutory law adopted after November 16, 1993, is subject to this chapter unless such law explicitly excludes such application by reference to this chapter." §2000bb–3(b). Nothing in RMA "explicitly excludes" application of RFRA.
By contrast, three bills now pending in Congress "explicitly exclude" RFRA. First, the Equality Act, H.R. 5 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5/text), provides in Section 1107: "The Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 (42 U.S.C. 2000bb et seq.) shall not provide a claim concerning, or a defense to a claim under, a covered title, or provide a basis for challenging the application or enforcement of a covered title."
Second, both the Women's Health Protection Act of 2021 (H.R. 3755) (abortion-rights protection) (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3755/text) and legislation designed to protect the use of contraceptives (H.R. 8373) (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8373/text) include identical provisions explicitly excluding RFRA: "[T]his Act supersedes and applies to the law of the Federal Government and each State government . . . and neither the Federal Government nor any State government shall administer, implement, or enforce any law, rule, regulation, standard, or other provision having the force and effect of law that conflicts with any provision of this Act, notwithstanding any other provision of Federal law, including the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 (42 U.S.C. 2000bb et seq.)."
The RFRA carveouts in these bills are one reason they're dead-on-arrival in the Senate. They can't get Republican support.
But RMA is different. In general, it requires state and federal governments and those "acting under color of state law" (commonly, government officials) not to refuse recognition or rights to validly married same-sex couples. It does not govern purely private actors--like employers, landlords, or vendors--whose religious scruples might be triggered by an anti-discrimination requirement.
Moreover, even if RMA were understood more expansively to cover the rare putatively private actor, the provisions of RFRA still apply to the Act. A person whose RFRA rights are violated "may assert that violation as a claim or defense in a judicial proceeding and obtain appropriate relief against a government." §2000bb–1(c). Enforcement of RMA that substantially burdens a person's exercise of religion would in principle be subject to any available limitations and defenses under RFRA.
Important questions will remain about whether and exactly how RFRA would apply concretely to the enforcement of RMA in a particular instance. RFRA necessitates an accommodationist, intensely fact-bound inquiry. In particular, the upshot of applying RFRA could not sensibly be to altogether deny recognition or a marital right to which a married same-sex couple is entitled under RMA. Still, in light of other pending legislation, the omission of a RFRA carve-out from RMA is notable.
If RMA passes, it would be a milestone for a nation that once rushed to pass DOMA--emergency legislation barring recognition before a single same-sex marriage even existed. The country would now be protecting hundreds of thousands of existing same-sex marriages. It would provide an important measure of reassurance to millions of current and future spouses and their children.
It might also set a precedent for the passage of other LGBT rights legislation on a bi-partisan basis. If such legislation is to have a chance of seeing the president's desk, there is no other way.
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What, other than disgusting bigotry, motivates some people to oppose gay marriage (and other decent treatment of gays)?
Anyone who hates homosexuals and wants them to suffer and to have their assets plundered will support this law.
Homosexuals have rejected this easy to see lawyer trap. Almost none is getting married. They also know the marriage is fake. It is a friendship. One may duplicate its financial aspects in contract between friends.
All long term relationships (LTR) have horror. Familiarity does not breed contempt. It breeds horror. So a binding relationship must be imposed so that children grow up with two parents. Bastards have multiple rates of disparity in social pathologies. Without that necessity, marriage is crazy especially for the more productive partner.
Anyone who hates homosexuals and wants them to suffer and to have their assets plundered will support this law.
So as long as the "married" are exempt, the plundering is just fine.
The marriage is the vehicle carrying the plundering lawyers, and carrying away the above average assets of homosexuals.
Rev. Cool legal analysis, bruh. I want to attend your law school to get as good as you.
One group that has roundly rejected it is homosexuals. They know it is a lawyer trap and have stayed away from it in the majority. That is true even in places where it was legalized long before it was in the US.
Plenty of good people have both traditional and progressive views on marriage. America is big enough for both, so long as NEITHER side imposes their view on the other.
Pluralism or bust!
How exactly is that supposed to work?
Simple: my side wins. It's a compromise, you see.
"Plenty of good people have both traditional and progressive views on marriage."
Let's hear the good person's defense of the position that gays should be treated like dirt (marriage, employment discrimination, adoptions and similar services, etc.).
Good luck.
I agree with the three SCOTUS justices who were in the majority for BOTH Obergefell AND Masterpiece.
Kennedy, Kagan, and Breyer basically said that everyone has a right to live how they want with dignity, and that includes gays as well as those with traditional views on the matter. The state may not stigmatize EITHER camp.
(Notably, Obergefell was distinguished from Loving v. Virginia, in the sense that the latter was an issue of animus rather than good faith differences that can/should peacefully coexist...)
The historical hate and bigotry was wrong, but should not simply be replaced with a different sort.
Pluralism or bust!
I think you should read Kagan's (persuasive, in my view) concurrence in Masterpiece before you concede agreeing with her.
Good Rev..gov should not discriminate or pass laws forcing one or a company to discriminate and that is it..the end of the role of govt. Marriage isn't even a govt role. Not sure why govt ever thought it was. As for the rest..you have the right to disciminate in your personal life including social and economic transactions. Not sure what the left gets all upset about that...and the fed govt has to be forcing one to discriminate in a way they don't want to. That is the problem the CRA created..govt felt the need to then interject itself into private interactions. Obviousl politicans wanted to do this to ensure the social outcomes to buy votes..and caused most of the political divide to this day
Gays spread monkeypox. Gays don't have kids. Gays vote Democrat. Gays support LGBTQ brainwashing in the schools. Gays oppose anti=groomer laws. Gays want special privileges for being gay. Gays have corrupted a bunch of professions.
Gays are richer, more privileged and more fabulous. Queenie, amirite.
Gays are people who want to be free from people using democracy to step on their freedom.
That may be true but the activists among them want to use the power of the State to punish those that disagree with them.
that is what many of us thought and supported govt not discriminating based on sexual preference but the support for the pedo/groomers trannies and this belief that private sector has to give gay person special privileges and even force govt to celebrate their sexual preference is a huge concern.
Thank you Prof. Carpenter. The whole RFRA exception smacked of bad faith to me. Obergefell dealt with state recognition of same-sex marriage; Windsor with federal recognittion. The rights under those cases dealt with state and federal actors, not private actors. State and federal actors are barred by the Establishment Clause from holding a religion and therefore RFRA would not apply to them.
So if you want to insure that state and federal governments recognize same-sex marriage, RFRA is an irrelevancy.
State and federal governments are barred by the Establishment Clause from holding a religion; individual state and federal employees are not. A law that requires a government employee to undertake a particular act implicates that employee's RFRA rights. (I'm not saying the employee would win; I'm saying that the RFRA analysis would have to be conducted.)
I agree. Perhaps Kim Davis would be required to certify a marriage is recognized by Rowan county because of RMA rather than Obergefell.
As long as there is an amendment requiring reciprocity for any and all (unconstitutional) gun licenses.
The primary beneficiaries of same-sex marriage are divorce lawyers.
As intended from the very first. Only 5% of homosexuals are getting married, and for good reason. They are neither stupid nor suicidal.
I'll believe any of y'all actually believe this nonsense when you put together a serious coalition to abolish legal recognition of any marriages.
Until then, you're just bigots.
As I said below, before you posted your comment:
The libertarian answer is for all governments (at every level) to stop discriminating between people who are married and people who are not. The laws should apply equally to all, regardless of marital status.
Libertarian-leaning people should demand the elimination of marriage licensing by the states. Alabama came close to doing just that: https://fee.org/articles/alabama-senate-votes-to-end-state-marriage-licenses/
As Jeffrey A. Tucker wrote in that article, "...the end of the license and its replacement with a plain contract would take us a long way in the direction of the goal: a complete wall of separation between the state and marriage. Otherwise, the culture war will continue without end, and everyone will lose."
There are too many areas where the law has to recognize marriage. Family law, for one thing. Tax law, for another. That idea is a pipe dream.
So then equal protection demands that any two able minded adults can choose to be married. Race and sex don’t matter.
Others your giving various benefits to certain groups of people and denying those benefits to other groups.
To a religious person, marriage is by God. Government recognition is just it insinuating itself.
However, when God fails, the people need to split up and get on with life.
Why would anyone worship such a screw-up?
Other than childhood indoctrination, I guess.
And gullibility.
marriage pre-dates every modern religion, so that's always been something of a specious claim.
Yes, I've never understood the libertarian argument about getting the state out of the business of recognizing marriage. That starts with what I can only call a willful ignorance about why the state (in the American context, the states) got involved in it in the first place (to allow for abandoned women to divorce missing husbands so they could remarry, for example).
I really don't understand how our world could operate without a legal adjudication about whether 2 people were married...or more than 2 people were not married.
One spouse wants a divorce, the other does not...who decides which one gets their way? Are you telling me they wrote a custom contract at the time of their wedding which arbitrates that? Marital law creates default rules for these things. I shudder at imagining the chaos that would result without that baseline. That's ignoring any children involved.
What does "marriage" supply that contract law cannot do, and better, other than the religious parts?
Revealed preferences vs. stated preferences.
Libertarians/libertarians claim to want this, but as their actions demonstrate, they only want this when talking about gay people. The moment gay folk have been out of the conversation for fifteen minutes they forget they want this.
That said, you should do a history-refresher. Of the 30-or-so states that constitutionally banned same-sex marriage, over 20 also banned civil unions, domestic partnerships, and other similar "compromises". At the individual level, they fought to invalidate wills that left things to a gay person's partners, they ignored and tried to invalidate powers of attorney and medical directives, sued to invalidate death registries.
Simply put, there is not a single attempt that gay people made to secure any legal protections that was not fought.
Because the battle was never about marriage or religion, and it was always about anti-gay bigots trying to make life living hell for gay people, presumably because they lack faith that we'll actually go to hell after death.
the support by the gay community for govt to interpose into families through govt schools to send trannie "therapists" into schools to "find" youngsters who "identify" as a different sex than what they are through evolution and convince them to take horrific chemicals or surgery to "build up" their numbers is a huge problem today. All the good work the gay community achieved through saying "we are just like you..we want to marry and have families, are monogamous and so on" is threatened. the pedo/groomer wing needs to be thrown out of the gay movement asap...i
Alas, marriage is a very peculiar kind of contract. Unlike practically any other contract, marriage purports to bind third parties to recognition of specific status for the contracting parties. That peculiar wrinkle is deeply embedded in American law, and long-standing. Carpenter here insists that the RFRA overturns that aspect of marriage. Sounds to me like a bid to establish religion by legislation, but who knows what a court will say.
None of this is any of the business of the Federal government. The US Congress doesn’t get any input on what a marriage is and doesn’t get to regulate which religious beliefs and actions can be burdened and which can't.
The respect for marriage act does not define what a marriage is. It leaves that to the states. It simply uses its authority under the FF&C clause.
What are "LGBT rights"? Do they have rights that heterosexuals do not?
No; they want the same rights as heterosexuals. To get married, to buy stuff, to adopt kids, to volunteer in the community, to joint the military.
That's what they want, sure. But some of the things in your list impinge on private parties and THEIR rights, and some don't.
Do you have any examples? That aren't impingements that are already considered acceptable when y'all do it to us?
And yes, that rules out non-discrimination law: I can't refuse you because of what your god says about gays, so I'll shed no tears if you can't refuse me for the same.
I don't see the RFRA issue here at all.
If two people get married, how can that burden, substantially or not, a third party's religious beliefs?
You are correct, except why did the sponsors of several bills put in that their law is exempt from RFRA? It's a stealth way to stick it to private parties.
And surely you are not oblivious to cases where SSM has impinged on private rights. The cake baker and photographer cases spring to mind. Those should not be covered by a law directed at state and Government actors. See my comment above.
Could you run through the legal case wherein this law is part of a case regarding public accommodations of homosexuals?
What do you mean "this law?" If you saw my comment, I was commending Prof. Carpenter for supporting a law that would not do that.
As for the rest, given past history, it is not hard to see how any law can be twisted for an agenda. Someone sues a baker, claiming he is a public accomodation, and cannot discriminate against gays under the Civil Rights Act, as interpreted by Bostock. The baker raises RFRA as a defense. The laws that the Democrats are proposing are interpreted that RFRA does not protect discrimination against gay marriage. It's not the way I would necessarily interpret it, but the overriding of RFRA suggests that the law applies to private parties, since, as I have now said repeatedly, states and the federal government have no religion and therefore no rights under RFRA.
As David also pointed out, I think you mean discrimination against gays (or more accurately discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation) rather than discrimination against gay marriage. The Equality Act (which proscribes discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation) precludes a RFRA defense, but RMA (which requires states to recognize valid out-of-state same-sex marriages) does not preclude a RFRA defense (which as explained above might impact an individual).
I don't understand your point. I said above, I can support RMA but not the Equality Act. RMA appears to be narrowly targeted to the stated purpose, making sure state and federal government actors recognize SSM.
Would you support the Equality Act if a RFRA defense was permitted?
I'd support it if it stated clearly that it only applies to state and federal government actors. Which is what the RMA is. Which is why I commended Prof. Carpenter for supporting it.
The Equality Act is an extension of the Civil Rights Act and as such Title II (places of accommodation) and Title VII (employment) apply to private actors. Do you only oppose the Equality Act's extensions or do you oppose Title II and Title VII of the CRA?
THe CRA was necessary when it was passed. I am dubious it is still needed, but the chance of it being repealed is nil.
I am opposed to any extensions, because given the history of the use of similar provisions at the state level, extending it will lead to attempts, often succesful, at quashing religious people.
Find another baker or photographer. Not many places in the country where you can't find one willing to do the job for the money.
If I cannot refuse a customer for what their god says about gays, then you can't refuse a customer because of what your god says about gays.
Either we're both free to go for the knives, or we both have to leave them in the toy box. But you don't get knives while I'm barehanded.
"If I cannot refuse a customer for what their god says about gays, then you can't refuse a customer because of what your god says about gays."
Except, as you well know, it goes well beyond that. The Colorado Civil Rights Commission decided that their law means that a Christian baker should be forced to bake a cake celebrating a same-sex marriage, while a gay baker cannot be forced to bake a cake that bears bibilical passasges condemning homosexuality. That's the problem here, the gays today are not looking for service, they are looking for affirmance. Forced affirmance.
And, yes, if a baker does not want to bake a cake that says, "Happy Bar Mitzvah Irving" or "Congrats on the Communion," he should not be forced to either.
It is almost certainly the case the gay baker refuses to bake a cake that bears religious or secularcontent that condemns homosexuality. And if that's the case, the gay baker is not discriminating against any protected class.
Not sure why the CRA had to go into the private sphere. outlawing govt discrimination and govt passing laws forcing people to discriminate was all that was needed. Private interactions should never have been on the table as it become catnip for politicians to push social outcomes they wanted. Not sure how the SC allowed parts of it..very anti liberty and freedom...thoughts anyone? I'm too young to have known what the political theater was in 1964
They shouldn't. Spring to mind, I mean. Most of those happened in places where SSM was illegal. Those were just applications of antidiscrimination law, nothing to do with legal SSM.
The ability of judges with an agenda to stretch laws beyond what they were intended is not to be underestimated. I don't trust the judiciary nor the bureucracy to adhere to the law faithfully.
I still have not heard a good reason why the Democratic alternatives override RFRA. They also "shouldn't" given what this law purports to accomplish. But it's there anyway.
How about adding a clause that nothing in this bill (whichever one) is meant to require any private party to recognize SSM, or do any act because of this law?
BTW, IMO, the county clerk that refused to issue an SSM license because of her faith should lose (as she did). When you work for the govt., you accept that you have to live with governmental restrictions, including the many restrictions on "state actors." No one is forced to work for the government. So if she is the only clerk available, tough. You don't like it, quit. (If there are multiple clerks available, I don't see anything wrong with having someone else fill out the paperwork.)
There is nothing in the text of RFRA which precludes a government employee from raising a RFRA defense in the course of her job duties.
The clerk is sued in his or her official capacity. As such, she is a state actor, and has no religious beliefs as a matter of law.
An individual has an absolute right to believe many things. A govt. employee might believe that blacks are inferior and should be kept in their place. But as a govt. employee, she is bound by the 14th Amendment to give them equal treatment.
Eugene doesn't agree a state actor is precluded from a RFRA defense.
Behind a fire wall, so I am not going to read it. It is up to the state to provide the non-discrminatory treatment. If they can do that and still accomodate the clerk's religion, that's fine, maybe even mandated. Otherwise, tough,
When I got married, in another state where my wife's parents lived, the wedding was hold about 50 minutes away from where my future in-laws lived. In another county. So my then-fiance had to go there, twice, to order and then pick up the license. Very inconvenient.
The State of Kentucky could avoid the whole issue by letting people apply for a marriage license on-line. Would be a whole lot more convenient for everyone, of all sexual orientations, too. Then they can always find someone without objections to fill out the paperwork.
I don't care enough to go back and check, but IIRC, Davis rejected the compromise position of "Let anyone else in her office do it." Her argument was that her name was on the license, and therefore it violated her rights even if a subordinate did the actual work.
You're confusing different topics. Nothing in the Respect for Marriage Act overrides RFRA. You're thinking of the law congress is considering re: abortion.
You do realize that the discrimination that started the Elane Photography case happened in 2005, yes? New Mexico wouldn't have same-sex marriage for almost a decade.
Similarly, Jack Phillips refused a cake to a gay couple before Colorado had same-sex marriage either.
And conversely, despite having same-sex marriage for seven years now and plenty of businesses have publicly refused gay couples in it, no such lawsuit has happened in Texas.
It's almost like marriage law and non-discrimination law are two different things.
So you would not object to including a clause in any such law that it only applies to state and federal govt. actors, not private parties.
And, yes, that is one of the outrages about the Elaine Photography case. Denying two gays recognition of their marriage by the state is far, far more harmful to them than denying them photography services at their wedding. There are dozens of photographers in the phone book; there is only one state. The courts that ruled otherwise completely lacked self-awareness. And that is being charitable.
It seems to me that the Obergefell case (which, at its core, was a demand for equal treatment in IRS's assessment of estate tax) did not properly extend to cover the question of whether states must allow same-sex marriages to be performed there, and thus that the Court's opinion on that topic is mere dicta. (Requiring states to recognize SSMs from other states also seems to be not-at-issue in Obergefell's case, though the full faith and credit clause appears to require that anyway.)
Obergefell's marriage was legal under Massachusetts law at the time; what the case actually struck down was just DOMA and its decree that federal agencies ignore, and not recognize, same sex marriages that were valid under state law.
You're mixing up Windsor and Obergefell. Look them up.
The libertarian answer is for all governments (at every level) to stop discriminating between people who are married and people who are not. The laws should apply equally to all, regardless of marital status.
It seems to me that such laws, on the contrary, bring confusion to the essence of same-sex marriages. There is a fully working scheme right now. A person is looking for what he needs on special resources, for example, at the asian hookups near me - https://www.iwantasian.com/asian/hookup.html If you are lucky enough to find a good choice, then you can register a marriage in the city hall without much nerves. And there is no point in adding questions of religion here.