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Texas Sets Up Test Case For Arizona v. U.S.
Can the states detain an alien based on "reasonable suspicion of illegal entry or other immigration crime"?
June 2012 was a rough month for conservatives. Of course, on June 28, 2012, the Court decided NFIB v. Sebelius. I could write a book about that day. But three days earlier, the right suffered another momentous defeat--one that I think was somewhat pushed out of the headlines by NFIB. I was actually in the Court when Arizona v. United States was handed down. I had never seen Justice Scalia so irate.
Listen to his dissent from the bench. He was livid. Scalia even went on a rant about DACA, which had been announced a few days earlier.
After this case was argued and while it was under consideration, the Secretary of Home Land Security announced a program exempting from immigration enforcement some 1.4 million illegal immigrants. A husbanding of scarce enforcement resources can hardly be the justification for this since those resources will be eaten up by the considerable administrative cost of conducting the non-enforcement program which will require as many as 1.4 million background checks and by any rulings on request for dispensation. The President has said that the new program is "the right thing to do" in light of Congress' failure to pass the administration's proposed revision of the immigration laws. Perhaps it is, though Arizona may not think so. But to say as the Court does, that Arizona contradicts federal law by enforcing applications of federal immigration law that the President declines to enforce boggles the mind. The Court's opinion paints what it considers a looming specter of unutterable horror, "If Section 3 of the Arizona statute were valid, every State could give itself independent authority to prosecute federal registration violations." That seems to me not so horrible and even less looming, but there has come to pass and is with us today, the specter that Arizona and the states that supported, predicted, a federal government that does not want to enforce the immigration laws as written and leaves the states' borders unprotected against immigrants whom those laws would exclude. So the issue was a stark one.
I used Scalia's words to write an imagined concurrence in Texas v. United States, the DAPA case. DACA recently celebrated its tenth anniversary; The DACA Decade would make a good title for a book I plan to write.
And Scalia compared illegal immigration to an "invasion" and a "siege."
As is often the case, discussions of the dry legalities, that are the proper object of our attention, suppresses the very human realities that gave rise to this suit. Arizona bears the brunt of the country's illegal immigration problem. Its citizens feel themselves under siege by large numbers of illegal immigrants who invade their property, strain their social services, and even place their lives in jeopardy. Federal officials have been unable to remedy the problem and indeed have recently shown that they are simply unwilling to do so. Arizona has moved to protect its sovereignty, not in contradiction of federal law, but in complete compliance with it. The laws under challenge do not extend or revise federal immigration restrictions but merely enforce those restrictions more effectively. If securing its territory in this fashion is not within the power of Arizona, we should cease referring to it as a sovereign state. For these reasons, I dissent.
Now, the Court may get another go at that precedent. Texas Governor Greg Abbot ordered the Texas national guard and state police to detain aliens who illegally entered the country, and to return them to the border. But wouldn't that action violate Arizona? Not quite. The executive order quotes this passage of Justice Kennedy's majority opinion:
However the law is interpreted, if §2(B) only requires state officers to conduct a status check during the course of an authorized, lawful detention or after a detainee has been released, the provision likely would survive pre- emption—at least absent some showing that it has other consequences that are adverse to federal law and its objectives. There is no need in this case to address whether reasonable suspicion of illegal entry or another immigration crime would be a legitimate basis for prolonging a detention, or whether this too would be preempted by federal law. See, e.g., United States v. Di Re, 332 U.S. 581, 589 (1948) (authority of state officers to make arrests for federal crimes is, absent federal statutory instruction, a matter of state law); Gonzales v. Peoria, 722 F.2d 468, 475–476 (CA9 1983) (concluding that Arizona officers have authority to enforce the criminal provisions of federal immigration law), overruled on other grounds in Hodgers-Durgin v. de la Vina, 199 F.3d 1037 (CA9 1999).
Arizona left open the question of whether Texas can detain aliens who violated federal immigration law. The Court could uphold Abbott's order without overruling Arizona. But this holding would undermine the weight of Arizona.
Justice Kennedy liked to leave lots of issues open, to be decided another day, if ever. For example, Justice Kennedy declined to overrule Washington v. Glucksberg in Obergefell. Instead, he scribbled a feeble distinction on that little slip of paper inside a fortune cookie. And, wouldn't you know it, Glucksberg was used to overrule Roe. I think litigators can spend the next decade picking up all of the issues that Justice Kennedy declined to resolve--just search Westlaw for "no need to decide" or "we do not need to address" or "we decline to resolve."
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The executive order is far too sweeping. If every "violation of federal law" (criminal or not) empowers a state to seize a person, that pretty much spells the end of due process.
No health insurance? That violates federal law, so the state is justified in picking you up and committing you to a "medical institution" where you will receive mandatory state-funded group health care as efficiently as possible. Enjoy!
Not to mention the profiling and pretextual stops that this order incentivizes.
Some have said that Mike Judge's Idiocracy (2006) was prescient about the nature of future politics. Now maybe 'Born In East LA' (1987) will come to life. If someone looks illegal, just put them in a truck and take them to mexico. No muss, no fuss.
“We returned four to the port of entry in Mexico so they could return home,” Mr. Coe said during the Tuesday news conference. “There was no deportation. We picked them up, put them in the truck and took them home.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2gIwHq_d3w
So what's your solution to controlling illegal entry into the country?
Would you feel the same way about the lack of enforcement of existing law if a group of individuals entered your home, refused to leave and you were told to deal with it by the local law enforcement authorities?
It's not a good analogy, so ignoring that, if I were you, I'd solve my concerns about illegal immigration by stopping letting Fox News rile me up over culture war garbage.
But if immigration issues really are impacting your lifestyle, the way to fix it is by voting for candidates who will prioritize them, such as by raising taxes to give border control the resources they need.
...and just why is it a " not a good analogy"?
Don't watch Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC or CNN. Get most of my information from various internet sites including this one.
Apparently you voted for candidates "who will prioritize them, such as by raising taxes to give border control the resources they need." and we can all see how well that's worked out.
Because a home is private property.
So then I have an individual right to defend my private property against unwanted intrusion without the necessity of government agents? Including the use of force?
It's also not a good analogy because in the case of your home, you know that it's your home, you presumably saw the intruders enter, and therefore you have probable cause to take action. Even if you didn't see them enter, you know that you didn't give them permission so you again have probable cause to take action. It's different if you find a random brown person someplace in Texas or Virginia. Being of Hispanic origin and speaking with an accent (or not speaking English at all) is not probable cause that they committed a crime. (In the case of your house, I think you would have a right to forcibly eject the intruders, although doing so w/out assistance from law enforcement might not be prudent.)
As to stopping people who are here illegally, that is primarily a problem of overstaying visas. Most people here illegally came legally and stayed. There needs to be better follow up and enforcement in that area if we are to make significant and lasting progress on the problem (to the extent that it's a problem.) It's very, very labor-intensive, though, and much harder than the race-based enforcement we use most often now. The only people I've known who I knew were here illegally were a delightful white, blonde British couple. They had no fear of ICE enforcement, and no one ever looked askance at them or likely ever wondered if they were here legally or not.
"As to stopping people who are here illegally, that is primarily a problem of overstaying visas."
That is not a legitimate reason to ignore illegal border crossings as the US/Mexico border.
I take it back! Watch Fox News! Even it's a better information source than "various internet sites including this one."
Then why are you here and posting?
Why do you believe the only reason to have an opinion or hold a value that's counter to yours is from some nefarious manipulation?
That's so lazy.
I think it's likely to be nefarious manipulation in this case because illegal immigration is pretty low on the list of issues that actually impact people, yet for whatever reason (hint: race) it gets an outsized amount of coverage and grievance-stoking.
I'm sure for some small number of people, that's wrong. Do you have a bona fide reason to care about illegal immigration as much as say, inflation? What is it?
(Hint 2: This is a trap to get you to repeat some baloney Tucker Carlson talking point, then we all laugh at you }
Why do you think it doesn’t impact people? Because you closed your eyes and wished it to be so?
...or you live in Whitelandia where the impact is minimal?
It certainly impacts the immigrants themselves, but something tells me that's not who you're worried about.
The reason I think it doesn't actually impact people is that the grievances, in general, are misdirected. Less than half of the illegal immigrants in the country came over the southern border. Most aren't Mexican.
So this appears more like a pretext for rounding up the brown people than a solution for minimizing illegal immigration.
You don't think communities along the Mexican border might have bigger impacts from illegal border crossings than Chicago?
Sure, but... is that what y'all are so spun up about? Communities along the Mexican border? You're the first person to mention it, and it comes across as a bit of a post-hoc justification.
The executive order gives 16 whereas-clause justifications for itself, none of which mention the plight of border communities. They're mostly fear-mongering culture warrior grist.
There are a lot more communities in the US that are having much worse problems for reasons that are quite a bit more pervasive than those faced by communities along the Mexican border due to illegal immigration. Why the special concern for these communities?
"illegal immigration is pretty low on the list of issues that actually impact people"
No, it's near the top of the list along with immigration policy generally, in a broad and long term outlook.
If you are a childless who doesn't have a stake in upcoming generations, a monkey-level IQ with short time preference, a well-off individual who stands to benefit from open borders to the detriment of average Americans, or some such, YMMV.
Our modern mass immigration scheme is world-unprecedented, and its chief effect economically is a $500 billion annual wealth redistribution program from average and working class Americans to a smaller number of richer Americans. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216/
Which happens all the time. Prosecutors in local govt drop cases all the time.
I shared Scalia's ire. The Supremacy clause states,
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."
Policy decisions to NOT enforce duly enacted laws should never invoke the supremacy clause. If anything Arizona should have prevailed on the basis of the clause; THEY were upholding the supreme law of the land, and the President was the one violating it!
The Court made a policy decision to violate the law into the highest law of the land. Quite outrageous.
...and without trying to sound trite, violates the oath of office of virtually every public official in the country.
Several yearrs ago I was appointed to serve on the local Board of Adjustment (Zoning Board) and unpaid position and was required to take an oath promising to uphold the Constitution of the US and my state's constitution.
Policy decisions to NOT enforce duly enacted laws should never invoke the supremacy clause.
Yet again, discretion is a thing that exists. You not liking its exercise does not make it illegal. There is an extraordinary amount of executive discretion in current immigration law.
And even if it were not, this is such a subjective standard of what counts as sufficient enforcement it's judicial lawmaking.
Yet again, discretionary policy choices are not "laws", and the Supremacy clause is quite specific as to what is supreme, and it isn't policy choices, unless those choices are enacted into law.
As has been famously said, the Constitution doesn't mandate what it barely permits; Maybe Presidents can legally fail to enforce duly enacted laws, states are hardly obligated by the supremacy of those laws to cooperate in refusing to enforce them.
If you violate federal law you are charged in federal court. were it is US v. Defendant, not State v. Defendant. State Courts do no enforce federal criminal laws
No, but they often enforce state laws that run parallel to federal laws.
A tactic not available here due to preemption.
The point is, though, that prosecutorial discretion is not a law; it's just a personal policy of the executive. Federal law preempts inconsistent state law pursuant to the Supremacy Clause, but there's no basis for saying that a mere exercise of discretion does so.
This is one of the stupider things I've known you to say! I'm disappointed.
That the executive has discretion is absolutely federal law. Saying that the Supremacy Clause protects the existence of that discretion but not the choices made pursuant to that discretion hardly even makes sense.
That'd be like if freedom of speech meant that you had the right to speak in the abstract, but your choice of content could be regulated.
No. Well, yes, sometimes federal law says that the president can/may do something, but that's not the context we're discussing here. We're discussing a situation in which federal law criminalizes X conduct — let's say, selling cocaine. The exercise of prosecutorial discretion as to whether to arrest a particular person who sells cocaine is not a "law"; there's no statute that says, "The president can decide whether to enforce this law." (I'm not saying that the president doesn't have that power; I'm just saying that it's not statutory.) And without a law, the Supremacy Clause doesn't kick in.
This is a common-law country. Not all law is contained in statutes.
The Supremacy Clause applies to statutes, treaties, and the constitution. Not common law. (Which, also, prosecutorial discretion is not.)
I beg to differ. The Supremacy Clause applies to federal court rulings as well. Court rulings are the essence of common law. I'm not sure you could divide common law into federal court rulings and "other," since the federal court rulings presuppose the "other" common law.
I think prosecutorial discretion pretty clearly arises under common law (i.e. judicial recognition), where do you think it comes from?
It's law that the federal executive has discretion in making their own enforcement decisions.
It is not law that the federal executive can tell state executives how to exercise their discretion over their enforcement decisions.
Not to mention telling state legislatures that they can't exercise their power to do anything not prohibited or properly preempted under the Constitution, including all powers reserved to the States as mentioned in the 10th amendment.
This is all true. Not seeing the relevance.
"But to say as the Court does, that Arizona contradicts federal law by enforcing applications of federal immigration law that the President declines to enforce boggles the mind."
Is that not what happened here?
No relevance. States cant make immigration law only the federal government can.
Let's see, what are we talking about.
If either the Arizona law or this Texas order had limited itself to arresting people who had violated federal criminal law, and also didn't purport to create new state crimes or remedies but simply carried out the arrest in furtherance of prosecution of the federal crime... I think that would be a different, tougher case, but still probably a loser if the feds have already said they don't want to prosecute that crime. Can the states put on a whole federal trial? Very doubtful.
But that's not what's happening anyway. Being in the country illegally isn't a crime. It doesn't, by itself, justify arrest under federal law. So arresting people who are in the country illegally is clearly preempted as conflicting with federal law. That was the main point in Arizona and it seems to apply here IMO.
Which federal law does it conflict with?
Here's one: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
I'm sure there are others including, for example, the delineation of deportation procedures.
... which is here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1229
Although not necessary in the preemption context, 1229a includes an exclusivity clause in case it makes you feel any better:
A proceeding under this section shall be the sole and exclusive procedure for determining whether an alien may be admitted to the United States or, if the alien has been so admitted, removed from the United States.
Article II of the United States Constitution vests executive power in the President of the United States.
this is quote straight from article II. Federal executive power is vested in the President, not the president and 50 states. This means the person that enforces federal law is the president.
The day unlucky Americans got access to health care…what an awful day! I think it’s up there with the Emancipation Proclamation as the worst days in American history.
Health insurance is NOT healthcare -- I now have expensive insurance that I cannot afford to use!
And before we had insurance that could drop you for having pore-existing conditions?
You are saying my insurance is more expensive because those pesky insurances have to cover all those sick people.
I'm sure people in 1865 were saying damn the prices of goods have gone up now that we have to pay for labor.
Scalia went on a rant about DACA when “wet feet dry feet” was the law of the land?!? Lol.
Scalia went through the world's longest menopause, AFAICT
Yeah, you have some problem distinguishing between the actual law of the land, and Presidential decisions to violate the actual law of the land?
Justice Kennedy joined the majority opinion in Washington v. Glucksburg. There was a period when the Court’s Due Process jurisprudence worked somewhat like its Establishment Clause jurisprudence.
When there was a majority to uphold laws, the Court cited one set of precedents, acting as if they were the only ones that existed. And when there was a majority to strike down laws, the Court simply cited a different set of precedents, acting as if they were the only ones that existed. Kennedy, a swing vote, was in both majorities from time to time. He thus signed on to flatly contradictory statements about how fundamental rights are to be identified. He signed on to Washington v. Glucksberg; he wrote Lawrence v. Texas’ completely different view.
I think what makes immigration a special case is that Presidents have historically often used it as a tool of foreign policy, showing favor or disfavor for a country by accepting or cracking down on immigrants from that country. In general, we were much more willing to accept immigrants from countries we especially disn’t like. Cuba comes to mind.
So I think there’s an argument that immigration is a special case and it’s not just what Congress enacts but also how the President enforces it, which may make it different from other Supremacy Clause cases.
But even there there are limits. I don’t think the President can completely contradict Congress or go outside the statute and still claim the Supremacy clause. I think the President’s actions and choices have to be limited to actions contemplated by the statute. So while I think the President’s choosing to parole a particular country’s citizens en masse would override state law, I don’t think something like DACA would.
The Governor of Texas has both considerable international support (see for example recent remarks by the Presidents of Mexico and Guatemala) and considerable domestic support. And the recent BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) meeting makes clear that what some call immigration may indeed be quiet invasion.
Borders and laws are real and their authority must be propounded by _someone_. Prosecutorial discretion and policing discretion are distinct, as is federal and state sovereignty: what good is my dual citizenship -- that is, my citizenship in my state-of-domicile and my citizenship in my nation-of-domicile -- if my state-of-domicile cannot police its borders as required by the laws enacted in the due course of republican governance? Noone would expect the EU member state of France to cease patrol of its borders and it is folly to expect the US member state of Texas to do so.
Texas, despite what it thinks, is not a sovereign country. Its relationship to the U.S. bears no resemblance to France's relationship to the E.U.
Josh, rereading the OP, I think you're misstating two aspects of this quote:
There is no need in this case to address whether reasonable suspicion of illegal entry or another immigration crime would be a legitimate basis for prolonging a detention, or whether this too would be preempted by federal law.
First, "prolonging a detention" is very different from "detain" i.e. arrest.
Second, it refers to an "immigration crime," where the Texas order allows arresting any immigrants who "commit other violations of federal law." The violations need be neither immigration-related nor crimes. That's pretty outrageous, and definitely doesn't fit within the Kennedy carve-out.