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Residential Picketing and Abortion
I've seen some people argue that the Supreme Court's objection to the picketing of Justices' homes about abortion is inconsistent with the Court's upholding the right to picket outside abortion clinics, or stressing the right to protest more broadly.
It's worth noting, though, that bans on residential picketing have been particularly useful to, among other people, abortion providers. Frisby v. Schultz (1988), upheld a content-neutral ban on targeted picketing that was prompted by picketing "outside the … residence of a doctor who apparently performs abortions." That opinion was written by Justice O'Connor, and joined by Chief Justice Rehnquist and Justices Blackmun, Kennedy, and Scalia; Justice White concurred as to the principle. Justices Brennan, Marshall, and Stevens dissented.
Then in Madsen v. Women's Health Center (1994), the Court considered an injunction banning picketing within 300 feet of abortion clinic employees' homes. The Court struck that down, because
[T]he 300-foot zone around the residences in this case is much larger than the zone provided for in the ordinance which we approved in Frisby…. [That] prohibition was limited to "focused picketing taking place solely in front of a particular residence." By contrast, the 300-foot zone would ban "[g]eneral marching through residential neighborhoods, or even walking a route in front of an entire block of houses."
But the majority (here, Chief Justice Rehnquist, joined by Justices Blackmun, O'Connor, Souter, Ginsburg, and Stevens) reaffirmed Frisby, as to "targeted residential picketing." (Justices Scalia, Kennedy, and Thomas viewed such injunctions as unconstitutional prior restraints, but didn't cast doubt on the correctness of Frisby as to content-neutral ordinances.)
So the rule seems clear: Content-neutral bans on residential picketing are constitutionally permissible. And that would apply whether the residence is that of an abortion provider or that of a Justice who ruled that the Constitution doesn't secure abortion rights. Perhaps Justices Brennan and Marshall (and possibly Stevens, though his position in Frisby was more complex) were right to reject this, and to conclude that people should be free to picket outside the homes of everyone (again, abortion providers or others). But the current rule upholding residential picketing bans has been useful to abortion providers as well as others.
UPDATE: For more on whether the bans being discussed in this situation are indeed content-neutral and therefore valid, see this post as to Maryland and this post as to Virginia. (Summary: Maryland law very likely invalid, Virginia law likely invalid, Montgomery County ordinance likely valid.)
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I mean all the reams of paper about the difference between residential and commercial and this case and that is all hot gas.
All they really want is all proabortion protests to be legal no matter what and all antiabortion protests to be illegal no matter what, simple as that. Everything else is just window dressing to get to this point.
So that’s why what happened recently? Holy crap do you live in a cave?
Picketing a Justice's house seems like a really foolish idea.
How would *they* respond if a Justice picketed them? Would they change their vote?
They are verklempt. No one thinks votes will change.
But in practice it doesn’t seem to be illegal in the Dobb’s case. Because no one was arrested for picketing. The attempted assassin was.
Arson, vandalism assault and looting also seems legal as long as it’s BLM.
The facts abandoned the left 100 years ago. All they have is personal attack and intimidation. They are working for the rent. And, violence is not a problem for the left.
Yes, the awful left has even spray painted a few pro life centers, Contrast that with the murder of Tiller and the multitude of violent attacks on abortion clinics. I found this two year old survey:
"Abortion providers reported an increase in death threats and threats of harm, rising from 92 in 2019 to 200 in 2020.
We saw a 125% increase in reports of assault and battery outside clinics with members reporting 54 incidents, rising from 24 in 2019.
Internet harassment and hate mail and harassing phone calls rose once again this year. Providers reported 3,413 targeted incidents of hate mail and harassing phone calls, rising from 3,123 in 2019.
There was a slight decrease in the reported number of picketing incidents in 2019, which is likely due to a decrease in anti-abortion protester activity in some locations at the very beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic. Providers still reported 115,517 incidents in 2020—which far exceeds any other year since we began tracking these statistics in 1977 except for 2019 when there were 123,228 incidents reported. "
I am nit afraid of a few hippies with paint, your side frankly terrifies me.
The Court in Frisby v. Schultz, 487 U.S. 474 (1988), narrowed the municipal ordinance to prohibit only picketing of a single, targeted residence. Demonstrating, including marching, on residential streets generally is First Amendment protected. It would seem that demonstrators could avoid prosecution by marching up and down the block where a justice's house is located.
Would this impinge on the privacy of justices and their families? Yes it would, but those who don't respect the privacy of tens of millions of women are ill situated to kvetch.
Imagine discussing the "right to privacy" with a straight face. No wonder you post under a pseudo
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Precisely. Now that the Justices have been given a taste of their own medicine (residential picketing), they may be amenable to reason.
Let Congressional leaders and the Administration meet with the Justices to work out "Constitutional" restrictions on residential picketing that protect everyone, not just a handful of self-interested justices.
The First Amendment protects the "right of the people peaceably to assemble, and petition the government." The wording points at government facilities and adjacent public spaces, not residential neighborhoods where people go off-duty to rest and raise families.
I don't know about that, but it certainly seems like intimidation rather than petitioning for change.
"Ok, Israel. Yes, people who have sworn to drive you into the sea now have 1000 tanks surrounding both sides of your borders. But don't you do anything!"
You don't quite have the wording right.
"a taste of their own medicine (residential picketing)"
In 1988, they said residential picketing, as such, was *not*protected by the 1st Amendment.
In dissent, Brennan and Marshall (and Stevens, I think) said it was.
You are referring to Frisby v. Schultz (1988).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisby_v._Schultz
As "Not Guilty" noted above, Frisby v. Schultz only allows a ban on picketing in front of one exact address. Under current case law, obnoxious picketers are still free to claim the block in front of that address, as long as they don't claim that exact address.
Under some states' laws state regulation of subject matter bars local regulation of the same subject regardless of conflict (field preemption in the Supremacy Clause sense). Under Maryland law, does a state statute preempt a county ordinance that regulates the same subject, and does it matter if the state statute is arguably unconstitutional?
Perhaps the distinction to be made here would be between an abortion clinic, which isn't government, with a Supreme Court Justice, who is. People after all do have a first amendment right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Justices are still part of government, whether in their chambers or their residences.
Having a prospective government employee realize that if they ever make an unpopular decision they can expect one side or the other to picket their house 24 hours a day will surely be effective in attracting the best and brightest into government service.
One can make arguments for such a distinction; but the Court has never adopted any such distinction when it comes to residential picketing, or anything close to it.
Okay, thanks for the response. It was a shot in the dark, and the supposition that the right to petition extends to a government official's residence seems unlikely.
Don't state and federal laws against intimidating court officers trump First Amendment free speech rights when the picketing is done in front of a judge's residence? Intimidating court officials is both a federal and (in most states) a state felony.