"BBC 'Altered Gender in Trans Rape Claim'"

"I can't think of any other situation where we would change the words of an alleged rape victim."

From The Times (London) [Jake Kanter]:

The BBC changed the testimony of a rape victim after a debate over the pronouns of her transgender attacker, The Times has learnt.

The woman referred to her alleged rapist as "him" but insiders said that her words were changed to avoid "misgendering" the abuser in an article on the corporation's website….

The victim's quote was published last year in an online BBC News article about lesbians being coerced into sex with transgender women….

An anonymous participant told researchers: "I was too young to argue and had been brainwashed by queer theory so he was a 'woman' even if every fibre of my being was screaming throughout, so I agreed to go home with him. He used physical force when I changed my mind upon seeing his penis and raped me."

The BBC article replaced every reference to "he" or "him" with "they" or "them"….

"They were originally all male references but the woke bros at the news website wanted to make them female because of misgendering," said a person with knowledge of the matter. "It's quite shocking. I can't think of any other situation where we would change the words of an alleged rape victim." …

The BBC article being discussed is here; the quote uses brackets to indicate that a change had indeed been made, though doesn't describe what was in the original (e.g., whether the original used "he" or the name of the alleged rapist or something else).

Comments

[Bored Lawyer]

Woman raped; journalists worry about the proper pronoun.

When someone write a book about the rise and fall of Western Civilization, that will have a chapter.

[DaivdBehar]

Preferred pronouns are delusional and silly. Why do people comply? Why must people comply? All PC is case. All woke is case. Parties face ruinous litigation enforced by men with guns for discrimination according to sex.

You do not get to define me. I identify as rich. I expect everyone to send me money in accordance with my chosen identity. What makes me say that? Nothing. I just feel that way. This friend identifies as the Paraclete of Kavorga, Angel of the Bottomless Pit. You need to respect that.

[Krayt]

Human who can have babies raped; ignorant journalist rudely assigns her female status.

[dwshelf]

Some people really do believe that the BBC is unbiased.

[DaivdBehar]

Because the BBC reporters are not mentally ill, their delusional language is ordinary lying to promote an agenda. The agenda is to destroy the family and our Western way of life on behalf of the Chinese Commie Party.

[AlottaPushy]

To be clear…I totally oppose such a change in nearly every quotation in a newspaper. I frequently use brackets to change vary the tense of a quote so that I can weave it into a sentence. That aside…

Question– Does anyone know of any concerted efforts to make the brackets more manageable/ easy to read if this whole ‘change with Ruth Bader Ginsburg said years ago because it’s no longer woke’ becomes more widespread? I use ‘sic’ but that can be bulky if used with brackets and I doubt this is even correct:

“And then, she [sic] [they] bitch slapped me.”

**It’s a sad world where we need to change ‘she’ to ‘they’ but ‘bitch’ is totally fine**

Perhaps we need a new convention where squiggly brackets are used with a slash to show that the first entry is the original and the second entry is the editorial preference? This would allow folks to write (and potentially speak) words that we find uncomfortable but allow students/readers to understand the full and true context. It could look like this:

“And then, {she/they} bitch slapped me”

Less bulky, allows for virtue signaling, and preserves honesty, yea?

[Gandydancer]

Not following you. Is or is not {she/they} a guy in a dress?

[Longtobefree]

She was raped by a man.
Just the facts.

[Brett Bellmore]

Online you could have something like a spoiler tag, that swapped in your false word, but showed the real one if you highlighted the text.

But I think it would be vastly superior to just reestablish a rule that you don’t muck about with quotes.

[Michael P]

The little known recte saves the day! “He [recte they]” would indicate an intended correction of the pronoun.

[Brett Bellmore]

Except, again, it’s the precise opposite of a correction, having been correct in the original.

[Michael P]

Thus “intended” correction.

[Longtobefree]

In a moment of desperation, just write the truth.
No brackets needed.

Men are men, women are women.
Period.
Science.

[Brett Bellmore]

Report: Despite Attempts To Add More Genders, There Still Seem To Be Just 2 Plus 767 Mental Disorders

[AmosArch]

If you can change your gender to be whatever you want why can’t people change their race to take advantage of whatever program or scholarship or quota that they like? Why can’t child molesters change their ages back and forth to sleep with children legally? I mean race is an even more nebulous concept than gender and people age at all sorts of different rates.

[DaivdBehar]

My Irish looking daughter did that. She got a free ride in a top grad school, worth $130000 in tuition. She dutifully attended all meetings of the African American Students Association. No one said a word. No doubt she helped the school fulfill a quota for accreditation reviewers. Her graduation with Honors helped the school add to an excellent track record at promoting the education of diverses. Her first job paid 4 times my salary at that stage, after adjusting for inflation. She helped her company do the same as her school.

In fairness, we are all cousins, the product of some babe from Kenya in the late Pleistocene.

[John F. Carr]

Under my state’s law there is no “Romeo and Juliet” exception to the statutory rape law and pedophilia is explicitly stated not to be a legally protected sexual orientation.

Other states may vary.

[Jimmy the Dane]

If you did not think the world has gone insane, Exhibit 2901901245 your honor.

[PeteRR]

Lesbians feeling coerced into having sex with “women.” This whole trans movement sounds totally sustainable to me.

[Brett Bellmore]

At least the BBC bothered to quote her. Most of the time US publications would have used a misleading paraphrase with one or two actual words from the speaker in quotes.

So, yes, it’s despicable, but the BBC isn’t yet as bad as US publications, which are mostly beyond despicable at this point.

[Davedave]

Jesus, this one isn’t complicated. The self-proclaimed ‘victim’ has made it quite clear she is a bigot, and the rape claim made isn’t very believable to say the least – she didn’t keep the story straight when it came to giving details. The story is really about how trans people face these obviously false allegations on a regular basis.

The victim here is not the person alleging rape, hence why the actual victim’s sensibilities were respected.

[Brett Bellmore]

Pro tip: Use [/sarc] after posts like that, so people don’t think you’re an idiot who’s being serious.

[Longtobefree]

No one would ever believe the anyone posting here is an idiot.
A sarc tag indicates you are a bigot who thinks this sophisticated audience cannot tell sarcasm from prophecy.

[John Rohan]

So in your universe, the rape victim is the one at fault, and the rapist is the real victim?

[Seamus]

Absolutely. And because the rape “victim” misgensered the “attacker,” we should be entitled to doubt whether any attack on this bigot took place at all. It’s like the Central Park Karen all over again.

[tkamenick]

People are worried about misgendering rapists.
People are worried. About misgendering rapists.

Let this sink in.

[Longtobefree]

Punctuation saves lives.
Lets eat, Grandma!
Lets eat Grandma!

[MatthewSlyfield]

“Lets eat Grandma!”

Grandma would be stringy, tough and dry. Not good eating.

[Frank Drackman]

Gotta be cured/smoked, Grandma Jerky

[Frank Drackman]

I don’t know, a “Law” Blog, maybe some actual Law for a change??

10 U.S. Code § 920 – Art. 120. Rape and sexual assault generally
Rape.—Any person subject to this chapter who commits a sexual act upon another person by—
bla bla bla bla, but then we come (get it?) to the “money shot”
1)Sexual act.—The term “sexual act” means—
(A)the penetration, however slight, of the penis into the vulva or anus or mouth;
(B)contact between the mouth and the penis, vulva, scrotum, or anus; or
(C)the penetration, however slight, of the vulva or penis or anus of another by any part of the body or any object, with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, or degrade any person or to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person.

So like the Turtles/Universe, it all comes down to Peni

Frank

[John Rohan]

This was UK, not US. However, funny you bring that up.

Currently under UK law, women cannot be charged with rape, which adds a nefarious twist to the BBC’s actions here.

https://eachother.org.uk/does-the-legal-definition-of-rape-need-updating/
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300270

[Archibald Tuttle]

The BBC article being discussed is here;

https://web.archive.org/web/20211101181200/https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-57853385

Wow oh wow! If you think the pronoun issue discussed in thig blog post is mind bending, read the article linked. It nearly melted my mind. I could never have imagined that things became so extreme.

[Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland]

With today’s red meat
the UCLA law prof
lathers his red rubes

Carry on, clingers,
railing against what’s handy
until replacement

[Frank Drackman]

I thought “replacement” wasn’t a “Thang” “Reverend”

Speaking of “Thangs” when was yours “Replaced” (I’ll bet “Mrs. “Reverend Arthur L. Kirtland” remembers (or maybe not, you have the Personality of someone who hasn’t used their “Thang” in a while)

You hear the one about Arthur L. Kirtland being accused of rape?
he was charged with “Assault with a Dead weapon”

Frank

[Krayt]

He keeps doubling down on replacement claims, even though this is “false disinformation”, and drove a guy to shoot up a place last week.

[Bored Lawyer]

The BBC purports to be what you term our “betters.” They in fact have demonstrated themselves to be moral degenerates.

So now you can add pro-rape to your resume.

[Kristian H.]

This is LITERALLY the Ricky Gervais joke.

[rsteinmetz]

Does anyone else think that a girl with a penis who rapes a girl might not really be “trans” and is simply trolling for victims?

[M L]

Apparently trans animosity toward what they call “TERFs” is . . . some kind of thing. Always repulsive when you peer down these rabbit holes. Trigger warning.

https://imgur.com/a/eJwOtbb

[Seamus]

Susan Brownmiller, please call your office.

[Brett Bellmore]

Without any actual slur being involved, of course.

You’ll remember that famous exchange from 1984, right?

O’Brien held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, with the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended.
“How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?’
“Four.”
“And if the Party says that it is not four but five – then how many?”
“Four.”

The BBC would have replaced “Four” with “Five”.

[John F. Carr]

I was thinking along those lines. We get graphic descriptions of crimes but when somebody says a bad word the reporter gets all evasive. Not substituting a well known euphemism, n-word, but going totally vague like “a racist insult”. The big local paper has long stories about how an awful racist thing was said by somebody on a school board and most of the time I don’t have a clue what was said. Like “sexual misconduct” could be causing offense to an easily offended woman or dragging her into the stairwell and raping her.

[Bored Lawyer]

If use of brackets makes it “essentially similar” then it is. For normal people, it is not.

[Krayt]

The Emperor’s New Clothes covered even earlier.

[MatthewSlyfield]

The BBC thinks 1984 was an instruction manual rather than a warning.

[Brett Bellmore]

Orwell was writing in England, the BBC was the inspiration!