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Lawyer's Asking School Employee Whether She Had Ever Kissed a Woman Not Workplace Harassment,
when the lawyers are investigating allegations that the employee "had romantic or sexual feelings for one of the students she coached."
An excerpt from Rys v. Clinton Central School Dist., decided yesterday by Frederick J. Scullin, Jr. (N.D.N.Y.) (there are also other things going on in this case, but I focus on the lawyer questions):
Plaintiff, a former middle school teacher and high school coach at Defendant Clinton Central School District …, commenced this action in October 2019, alleging, among other things, that she was discriminated against, suffered a hostile work environment, and was terminated after false allegations surfaced that she had romantic or sexual feelings for one of the students she coached, "K.S." … In addition to suing Defendant CCSD, Plaintiff also named various members of Defendant CCSD's faculty, … and two attorneys for Defendant CCSD ….
Plaintiff … alleges[, among other things,] that, on April 16, 2018, she met with the Attorney Defendants who "asked whether she had ever been in a relationship with a woman or had ever kissed a woman." According to Plaintiff, the Attorney Defendants questioned her "about her sexual orientation and her intimate relationships," focusing primarily on Plaintiff's relationships with women.
Plaintiff alleges that the experience was "humiliating and a gross violation of [her] privacy." … Plaintiff [also] alleges that the Attorney Defendants "discriminated against and disparately treated [her]" [and subjected her to a hostile work environment] based on her gender, sexual stereotyping, sexual orientation, or perceived sexual orientation, in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment. In her fourth cause of action, Plaintiff alleges that the Attorney Defendants "subjected [her] to a hostile work environment" based on her gender, sexual stereotyping, sexual orientation, or perceived sexual orientation….
[But] Plaintiff merely claims that the Attorney Defendants were in charge of investigating her allegedly improper relationship with a female student and that they met on one occasion as part of that investigation and asked Plaintiff questions about her sexual orientation and whether she had ever "kissed a woman." Even assuming that these allegations are true—as the Court must at the motion to dismiss stage of litigation—the Court finds that they do not rise to the level of severity that creates a hostile work environment, nor would a reasonable person find such questions in response to an inquiry about an alleged inappropriate teacher-student relationship to be "'hostile or abusive.'"
The Court further finds that Plaintiff has failed to sufficiently allege facts that the Attorney Defendants discriminated against her because of her gender or perceived sexual orientation or that a discriminatory motive could be inferred from the fact that the Attorney Defendants asked Plaintiff questions about her sexuality as part of their investigation into alleged misconduct….
Congratulations to Paul G. Ferrara of Costello, Cooney & Fearon, who represented the attorney defendants.
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We're firing people for their feelings now?
Almost certainly not. She is alleging that she was fired because of her feelings. I imagine the defendants will have a rather different story about why she was fired. Almost certainly one that involves actual behaviors.
Guess her attorney was just happy for the billable hours rather than telling her the claim was ridiculous (although in today's judiciai environment maybe it wasn't).
Eugene,
At what point, in your opinion, when would a claim like this be so ridiculous on its face that a court would award minor sanctions (ie, legal fees incurred by the defendant lawyers) in addition to the dismissal? If we all accept and support the concept that any school must conduct a full and thorough investigation of any allegation of teacher/coach-student sexual abuse or harassment, surely that must, by definition, include the investigators asking tough questions, right?
If I'm a teacher, and I'm being investigated for killing my vice principal, can I not expect to be questioned about my anger issues, my relationship with the VP, my use of alcohol and other drugs, and so on? I mean, I guess it's true that the cops (or lawyer-investigators) coming in and asking me about all these upsetting issues does create a hostile environment, and because the alleged incident did take place at work, it's a hostile workplace environment. But this lawsuit? . . . it's a real head-scratcher.
Great question, but I'm afraid I don't know the answer.
Presumably, though, if the investigation were into an inappropriate relationship with an opposite-sex student, the lawyers wouldn't probe into your romantic and sexual background. This has a bit of the feeling of associating homosexuality with child predation. It's perhaps correct that these questions didn't rise to the level of a hostile work environment, but they also seem gratuitous and unnecessary. We generally trust heterosexual teachers with opposite-sex children even if they've kissed other adults before.
It seems here that they didn't know if her orientation included women. The student was openly gay and the teacher was engaged to a man. If the student were male and the female teacher engaged to a woman I could easily see them asking the same question. If it did happen, I think it was a clumsy way to try to end the investigation early: if she wasn't into women then they weren't in a relationship. I think it's supported by the fact that the principal thought that her engagement was good for her case. I don't think the impulse was correct because plenty of predators will prey on children whatever their orientation and it's also a dumb way to go about it.
I can fairly confidently say that it's not that they thought "homosexuals are all predators" because the principal was only concerned because the student was gay and the teacher was apparently only spending time out of school with the one girl.
"We generally trust heterosexual teachers with opposite-sex children even if they've kissed other adults before."
I think we would be wary in similar circumstances though. The teacher was spending a lot of time with the girl and no other students, seemingly even at the teacher's house. The teacher claims that male coaches did similar things with other students and school policy that allows for that seems lax to me, even though I generally trust teachers even if they've kissed adults before.
Judging by his age and appearance, Paul Ferrara may be related to Ben Ferrara, who used to represent my father. I wonder
"Congratulations to Paul G. Ferrara of Costello, Cooney & Fearon, who represented the attorney defendants."
Prof. Volokh does not always congratulate the lawyers, but when he does . . . it is interesting.
Carry on, clingers. For a bit longer, anyway.
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"Lt. Commander, in humans feelings direct motivation and hence, often, actions."
But there's no reference to any investigation of actions or even expression.
Do you have any other examples of "horneyness" being investigated untethered from other action?
"Lt. Commander, allegations about ‘spending time together,’ ‘relationships,’ ‘visiting"
You can't really be this dense.
Are there any rules about ‘spending time together,’ ‘relationships,’ ‘visiting', that were violated?
Where are we to find the mythical young men who never find 17 year old girls attractive?
Are we going to ban men from teaching high school girls? Ban women from teaching boys?
Yeah, so why are they investigating the persons feeling instead of whatever nefarious thing allegedly happened?