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Praying on the 50-Yard Line
The Court agrees to hear an important First Amendment case
Last week, the Supreme Court granted cert in Kennedy v. Bremerton School District, the case of the high school football coach who wants to pray publicly on the field after games. The school district told him not to do so, at least in the presence of students, and, when he continued, refused to renew his contract. The coach argues that the school district has violated his First Amendment free speech and free exercise rights.
This is the second time Coach Kennedy has been to the Court. He first sought cert in 2019, at the preliminary injunction stage, but the Court declined to grant his petition at that time. In a statement for himself and three other justices, Justice Alito suggested that the school district might have violated Kennedy's First Amendment rights, but that the facts were not clear. Perhaps the school district didn't want Kennedy to pray on duty because praying distracted him from supervising team players? The district has cleared that up now, though. It maintains that it did not allow Kennedy to pray for the "sole reason" that allowing him to do so would amount to an official endorsement of religion in violation of the Establishment Clause.
A Ninth Circuit panel agreed with the school district and ruled against Kennedy, although several judges tried, unsuccessfully, to have the case reheard en banc. It seems clear that the Court granted cert last week in order to reverse. Although the cert petition makes the obligatory argument about a circuit split, it spends most of its time arguing that the panel opinion was both "egregiously wrong" and "exceptionally important." It's hard to imagine that the justices who voted to grant cert, including, presumably, those who joined Justice Alito's statement three years ago, would have taken the case unless they agreed. And they likely expect to be joined by at least one of their colleagues.
To my mind, the most interesting arguments in the case involve the district's claim that allowing Kennedy to pray publicly on the field would violate the Establishment Clause. The notion that allowing Kennedy to pray would amount to an official endorsement of religion, which persuaded the panel, seems implausible to me. The endorsement test asks whether an objective observer, familiar with the context, would think that government action signals favor or support for religion. The panel concluded that "an objective observer, familiar with the history of Kennedy's on-field religious activity, coupled with his pugilistic efforts to generate publicity in order to gain approval of those on-field religious activities," would think that the school district had ultimately come to support Kennedy's conduct.
But that seems wrong. Surely, someone who knew the whole story would understand precisely that the school district greatly disapproved of Kennedy's conduct and that the last thing it wanted was for Kennedy to keep praying in public. An informed observer would understand that, at most, the district was allowing Kennedy to pray publicly only because of the lawsuit he had filed against it.
Although the endorsement argument is weak—and that's assuming the justices apply the endorsement test in the first place, which is never entirely clear ahead of time—the district does have another argument that strikes me as stronger. In some cases, the Court has indicated that the government may violate the Establishment Clause by placing public school students in a situation in which they feel psychological coercion. For example, the Court has held that students may feel forced, from peer pressure, to stand respectfully for a prayer at an official graduation ceremony, or for an officially sponsored prayer before a school football game. The district could argue here that allowing Kennedy to pray publicly, even if that would not amount to an official endorsement of religion, would nonetheless create a situation that places pressure on team members to participate.
Kennedy would presumably respond that he is not praying in his capacity as a school employee, that he does not ask anyone to join him, that team members are free to leave the field without praying—in short, that no one is placing pressure on anyone. But that is perhaps a bit formalistic. A team member could easily feel that, even if the school district doesn't approve what Kennedy is doing and doesn't require anyone to stick around for the prayer, and even if Kennedy does not ask anyone to join him, the coach will know who stays and who leaves, as will the other players. For a kid in high school, that could easily create pressure to join in. Few kids will want to risk being an outcast on the team or benched by the coach. I'm not saying this will be a winning argument, but it does strike me as a valid point, under the Court's precedents.
The Court will hear the case later this term. For more thoughts on the case, my colleague, Marc DeGirolami, and I have recorded a podcast episode, which you can find here.
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I agree the psychological coercion is the stronger argument. I think it's still a losing argument, though, because there are less-infringing ways the district could have achieved their goal. They could have, for example, published an explicit statement of non-discrimination regardless of participation in the prayer. I think they could even have compelled the coach to make such a non-discrimination statement. In fact, from another article I seem to remember that he offered to make exactly that statement but the district refused.
As they say, Rossami, "You can't unring the bell."
Once the coach is seen doing his act students, especially football players, are going to feel coerced, or pressured.
Besides, WTF is the purpose of going out to midfield after the game to pray in public. Let him go home and pray.
I'm game for banning all public ideological displays that a cent of taxpayer money has gone toward if you are.
That's not the standard for any other Establishment Clause case, bernard11. For example, city councils are allowed to have chaplains and prayers before their meetings without it being perceived as coercive. What makes this situation different?
The city council-audience relationship is not the school-student (or coach-athlete) relationship. If your coach leads most of your team in a public prayer in front of hundreds or thousands of people, you are going to feel very coerced to participate.
The city councilors are adults and are not in a position where the chaplain has some kind of authority over them away from the meeting.
This appears to be the case. The students didn't pray on the field when the coach didn't; and the coach's praying, over time, pulled in more and more students, and even evolved to the point of sermonizing a bit. It seems pretty clear to me that the players didn't feel like they could elect not to participate without at least sticking out.
And, as it happens, the district at various points did try to clarify that the coach could pray, as long as the students didn't feel coerced to participate.
The coach's insistence that he needed to pray on the field, at the 50-yard line, is connected to why he felt the need to pray. It gets looped up in this "sincere belief" claptrap - he's "giving thanks" for the football game, for being able to work with the kids, for the kids' getting safely through the game, etc. So it's a prayer that has to be made on the field, just as Jesus intended.
Then we should ban the rainbow flag BLM and every other ideological display at school, police, firefighter, military, or any publicly funded event or organization. Its not just people displaying their opinion anymore. Its forcing your opinion on others. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
You continue to denigrate religion by comparing it to an ideology you don't like.
Faith and ideology are different. Metaphysics is not sociology.
The school could allow the coach to pray while requiring no others to join him.
And if others choose to join him of their own free will?
Then I think it becomes de facto the coach leading the kids in prayer, becoming public speech which is coercive.
So.... The coach can pray alone. And the students can pray alone. But if the students freely join the coach. Or the coach freely joins the students. It become "coercive" and illegal.
I'm seeing a problem here.
Even when done freely, when the students come together with the coach, it becomes coercive because other students see what is happening and feel pressure to join in.
The coach strikes me mostly as signalling his alleged Christian virtue. Usually that means there's a lot to cover up.
As for the legal aspects, I have no idea. Religion has sure made a mess for laws. Too many people want to signal their virtue for and against various different religions, and all think their particular practices should be mandatory for everybody else.
This is not germane to the legal issues, but I wonder how the coach, a professed Christian, reconciles his conduct with the words of Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount:
Ah, there's nothing better than a nonbeliever telling you what you should believe about your religion, based on selective quoting of a massive religious text.
Too bad it doesn't actually work that way
What makes you think I am a non-believer?
It's the assumption he has to make to feel like his words are important.
Well, religious truth isn't radically subjective, either, according to believers. So I'm not sure what you think you're saying by noting that some interlocutor may be a "nonbeliever."
In this case, Kennedy was apparently compelled to pray when and where he did because the time and place was essential to the purpose of his prayer - he needed to pray on the field, at a time roughly contemporaneous to having completed a game, in order to give thanks for the game, etc. To some believers, that might look just like saying grace before a meal; to others, that might look like a strange, almost atavistic practice, like kissing a wall that you believe to have religious significance, whirling around a box in the desert, or going on a pilgrimage to a dank cave in Spain.
Either way, it certainly isn't compelled by any acknowledged Christian tenet or tradition to be found in the Bible itself. It's just a weird commitment he has made to himself.
The notion that allowing Kennedy to pray would amount to an official endorsement of religion, which persuaded the panel, seems implausible to me. The endorsement test asks whether an objective observer, familiar with the context, would think that government action signals favor or support for religion.
Why implausible?
Why wouldn't such an observer think that? Going into Kennedy's history of lawsuits and whatnot is a red herring. An objective observer isn't going to know about all that. The objective observer is going to see the coach, an authority figure with a prominent position at the school, praying in a school context. Of course such an observer is going to think the school is endorsing his religion.
Let's say instead the coach had a Sikh headdress on while he was coaching.
Would the school be seen as endorsing his religion? Why or why not?
The Prog Answer:
Default: No
Show this clear counterexample: err....yeah....I guess
The 99% of the time libs behaving badly don't make the news so they can easily maintain their double standard because you aren't around to hear it: No
This comment is a full 5 hours old, with no takers from the frothing anti-Christianity crowd?
That's an ouchie.
You don't see the difference between wearing something and actively praying?
If the coach was bowing his foreheads to the floor, that would be an issue.
No. Just like if the coach was merely wearing a cross, it would not be.
There's a big difference between that and holding a public ceremony with his team.
No. Nor if the coach chose to wear a cross on a necklace.
I don't think a Sikh headdress is any more of an "endorsement" than a true, brief, private prayer at the 50 yard line. Part of the problem is that Kennedy's practice evolved into something far more substantial than that. Ostensibly "voluntarily," with the "voluntary" participation of his team and the opposing team. But at some point a group of kids gathering after a game, at the 50 yard line, to hear a coach pray and sermonize, without feeling fully comfortable that they can just skedaddle...
I think the second-string quarterback understands pretty well that he ought to be a conspicuously-practicing Christian, lest the third-string quarterback's fervent religiosity wins God's favor to guide the next major lineup decision by the coach.
Heh
I'd fire him. There is no 'freedom of speech' on the job. If I work at Burger King, I can't tell the customers to go across the street to McDonald's. Whether it's a police officer or a teacher or sports coach, when you're getting paid, you're on someone else's time - you are not 'free.' The second issue in the article is the big one. Kids are prisoners of their coach - in putting the kids on the spot by praying in front of them, he is abusing his responsiblity to them. The legal issue should have nothing to do with the establishment of religion.
There was a case not to long ago about some girls who wanted to wear their hijabs in a store themed around half naked beachbum californian teens. If I recall the same progs who are now foaming at the mouth over someone staining their eyes with the sight of clasped hands were hopping up and down feverishly favor of the accommodation. They also were in favor of pro athletes kneeling for BLM on publicly funded national television in publicly funded stadiums. This seems a bit much to me compared to some random guy in a no name town going off by himself to pray but what do I know?
This seems a bit much to me compared to some random guy in a no name town going off by himself to pray but what do I know?
Not much, it seems. Your "examples" are ridiculous. The hijab-clad teenagers weren't authority figures working for a government institution.
And the football players were not expressing a religious belief, and were not government employees in any event.
So you're somehow okay with the government (the ultimate coercing authority) supporting of some religion as long as its not through some intermediate 'authority figure' ? Well okay, luckily for you theres tons of intermediate authority figures imposing sjw religion with taxpayer money so maybe you should bellyache about this more general widespread problem if you really are interested in making a level playing field.
Oh fuck off, Amos.
You're spouting ridiculous bullshit.
luckily for you theres tons of intermediate authority figures imposing sjw religion with taxpayer money so maybe you should bellyache about this more general widespread problem if you really are interested in making a level playing field.
This is incoherent - the ravings of an angry fool.
I don't love ceremonial deism much myself, but it's not the same as this to anyone who has looked into Establishment Clause jurisprudence at all.
It was not "some girls," but one girl, and the store was Abercrombie, not whatever you think it was. And I don't know what your point was, except some imaginary claim of hypocrisy against imaginary people that makes no sense.
(Nor do I know why you think NFL games are aired on PBS.)
This is freedom of religion. And that extends to even working at Burger King. Yes, you can pray when working at Burger King.
https://blog.bernieportal.com/do-employees-have-the-right-to-pray-at-work
Not publicly, though.
An interesting take, but 100% not the law when it comes to public employment.
Going out on a limb here, but assuming that's even remotely close to true, is that perhaps the core of the problem we should be addressing rather than getting distracted over this sort of window dressing?
So, if a government official offers “thoughts and prayers” following, say, a school shooting, does that violate the Establishment Clause?
Government supports ProgSpeak at least 10x as much as Christian or any other rival religion. You have the salaries of the permanent bureaucratic class, direct propaganda (PBS, NPR etc), and biggest of all the funding of wokeness in schools, military, etc. Its probably hundreds of billions or more a year sunk into leftist brainwashing on all levels of society right out of your and my pocket. And I ain't even getting creative...thats just the tip of the iceberg. You want to REALLY remove the government from establishing a state religion/ideology? I say bring it on.
Good. The interim school superintendent of Montgomery County in Maryland just made such a statement following a school shooting this afternoon. Guess it’s goodbye to her.
Guess what public employees are the highest paid nationwide?
College coaches.
Hundreds of billions seems like a bit high of an estimate.
I'm sure the six conservative justices will patiently hear out the oral argument of the school district before going to their chambers, laughing their asses off, and writing up an opinion for the coach. Bonus points if one of them mentions Friday Night Lights.
Perhaps the Congregation Of Exalted Reason could respond by having people stand at both goal lines after games, encouraging the embrace of reason and science and advocating the rejection of silly, childish superstition that substandard parents try to impose through childhood indoctrination.
So...some kid might feel the need to join the prayer lest he lose playing time? Sounds like a heckler's veto...except the heckler gets to remain anonymous since no kid actually has to stand up and say that he's only joining in for that reason. We don't even know if such kid exists on that team. After the coach wins his case -- SCOTUS didn't take it to confirm it -- then a kid that believes he was mistreated for not joining in the prayer can make his case to the school board and perhaps the coach will be fired.
Why does everybody assume the default message a guy is sending when he goes off to pray is 'Join me or suffer?'. It could also likely be 'I want to be special and you'll embarrass me if you do the same thing' .
If I walked off to take a wizz or to the grocery store does that automatically mean I have nonverbally demanded someone come along?
No. This has been yet another episode of Simple Answers to Stupid Questions.
Say you're at work, at a weekly group meeting. One week, after the meeting, your boss says, "I'd just like to say a little prayer just thanking the Lord for our good numbers and a productive meeting, and also..."
Are you going to get up and go back to your office?
So...some kid might feel the need to join the prayer lest he lose playing time?
Yes, he might. And that's not a heckler's veto.
And if the Coach sports a big BLM sticker instead? What then? Do you have to support BLM or else not have playing time?
Yes, but that's different because nonfalsifiable leftist fad credo rather than traditional religion.
Lots of political beliefs are unfalsifiable on both sides of the aisle. That's not some big dig; that's how ideology works.
Anyone claiming all their beliefs are empirically and rationally derived is lying to themselves.
Sarcastr0, anyone who supposes that political beliefs ought to be rationally derived courts big trouble from ideologues.
Make it a point to notice, for the practice of a lot of human activities, politics conspicuous among them, "empirically and rationally," is kind of an oxymoronic jam-up. In politics, those are not complementary methods. Marxism stands as an exemplar to show why.
Man, the failed analogies are flying fast and furious on this one.
I know. You tried to analogize a quasi-secular religion to normal political beliefs to justify indoctrination of children in public schools. Sad!
quasi-secular religion
Is that like jumbo shrimp?
It's an observation that Social Justice Worship is a religion that persecutes heretics.
Actually, oxymorons like "jumbo shrimp" aren't inherently contradictory. That's what makes them fun. Shrimp are small animals, but small is relative anyway. To say "jumbo shrimp" is simply to say that they are large relative to other shrimp. There is the appearance of contradiction, but there actually isn't one.
"quasi-secular religion" on the other hand, is inherently contradictory, as "secular" and "religion" really are antithetical.
Marc DeGirolami seems to downplay Mark Movsesian's coercion argument by pointing out that if the coach's prayers are coercive, then so to could his making the cross before eating lunch when students observe him doing so. I think DeGirolami's argument misses a key factor missing from the pre-lunch prayer: students (and others) gathered around the coach as he prayed in large enough numbers to produce coercion. To be certain, the coach did not invite followers, but nor did he encourage them. In my view, the following is both 1) enough to make the coach's speech part of his job duties (de facto leading the kids in prayer), and 2) even if not public, it makes his speech coercive. Of course, the Court by either a 5-4 or 6-3 vote will disagree with me.
I think it’s pretty open and shut that as a private individual, the coach’s actions weren’t state action, and that shuts down any Establishment Clause claim the school district may have here.
As I note in my comment below, they could have easily disciplined the suspended coach for violating his suspension by walking on the field and impersonating a coach. It would have been stupid of them even to mention what he was doing while impersonating a coach, it was totally irrelevant. Instead, they fell for a trap and did something really stupid. If they are basing their case on the Establishment Clause, they lose.
Why do you think that Coach Kennedy wants to pray on the 50 yard line right after games anyway? If he didn't see it as an opportunity to use his public school position to endorse his religion, to use his status as football coach to bring kids to Christ, he wouldn't be doing it. If he is so convinced that it has this endorsing effect, why shouldn't the court believe it too?
Because the state, very stupidly framed its case in such a manner that if wins, the establishment clause prevents public school teachers from wearing a kippah or hajib, saying a prayer or a grace before meals even to themselves, or doing anything overtly religious whatsoever while on school property, even on their own time, as long as they are in the presence of children.
So it can’t win here. Its position is so obviously self-defeating as to be stupid.
If the school wins, teachers will still be able wear kippahs and say grace before lunch. As the Ninth Circuit explained, it's not the presence of students that determinative. It's them gathering around, de facto being led in prayer.
By whom? No teacher was leading them in prayer. That’s the whole point of this case and why the non-coach wins. No teacher, no state action.
As I see it, he is de facto acting as the coach once the students surround him to listen to him. The reason why he will win is the make up of the Court. Roll this back to the Masterpiece Court and Justice Kennedy would determine who wins. Roll it back further and he loses because Justice O'Connor has a different viewpoint that Justice Alito.
Why doesn't 'Coach' Kennedy's pastor, vicar, priest, or other religious leader tell him not to be such an asshole? There is _no_ organised religion that approves of such behaviour.
The fact is that whatever fringe variant of Christianity Kennedy thinks he is worshipping in, even that fringe variant rejects him utterly.
Why make such a big deal out of doing something his own religion says will send him to hell? Because it isn't really about the religion, it's about Kennedy.
The simple fact is that 'Coach' Kennedy might as well have confessed to being a kiddy-fiddler. There is prima facie evidence for a suspension and a police investigation, because we can all see he's covering up something - and that something is overwhelmingly likely to be utterly vile.
There are plenty of politicized churches out there who are into public demonstrations of faith by the government, as much as they can get.
Davedave, Professor Volokh has a wonderful euphemism for what you are doing with your comment. He calls it, "harsh criticism." Professor Volokh defends that, of course.
I don't. I think the fact that you can publish world-wide anonymous bullshit for free ought to be an encouragement to take the privilege seriously. Maybe exercise some self-restraint about asserting vicious things you know nothing about.
I'm just saying what the world thinks. These types either die before it comes out, or end up in jail. If you walk like a kiddy-fiddler, talk like a kiddy-fiddler, and fiddle with kids like a kiddy-fiddler, people won't have any doubts about what you are.
The vast majority of the world, if made aware of this, would say 'ah, another one, better call the police'. Don't normalise the scum. It's only in these weird, cut-off, small town communities where behaviour of this kind is normalised and explained away; that's why those are where the kiddy-fiddlers target. They go where they can get away with it. Used to be the priesthood and childrens' homes, now it's 'coaching'.
The simple truth is that there is a prima facie case to answer. We have seen ample evidence this scumbag touches underage boys in inappropriate ways. Arrest him, search his devices and his home, and let the kids know they no longer need to fear his reprisals. The truth will come out in short order. That's just basic common sense.
Why do you feel a desire to defend an obvious paedophile? Something you'd like to share with us, 'Stephen'?
Are you mentally ill?
No, I'm just not in denial. This kind of performative nonsense is _always_ a cover for something else.
'Coach' Kennedy is touching kids, or something equally vile. That's why he's putting on this show, and creating this distraction. There is no evidence against the null hypothesis here. Just those of similar vileness jumping to defend one of their own.
The School District here appears to have a lawyer adverse to the concept of an ethical duty to advance the client’s case.
The district had an easy case. The coach, as coach, went onto the field in coach regalia and led the students in a prayer at a game. The school suspended him. The suspended coach proceeded to repeat more or less the same thing he was suspended for. He put on coach regalia and went to the samw spot and did more or less what he did before.
All the district had to do was discipline him for an aspect of his conduct they could legally discipline him for. And there was an obvious one. As a civilian, he impersonated a coach. He wore coach regulia. He walked on to the field. He did things tending to lead students. It didn’t and shouldn’t have mattered the slightest bit what it was he was doing while on the field. It had no relevance whatsoever. Indeed, any competent lawyer serious about ethical duties would have told the district that even mentioning he was doing in a discipline beyond stating these bare facts would risk getting the school in a mud fight that would cost them a lot of legsl fees. And a totally unnecessary one given the obvious and uncontroversial basis for disciplining the coach.
But apparently the lawyer didn’t take the ethical path. Or maybe the lawyer wasn’t competent to realize the ethical duties. So the district took on this completely unnecessary and very expensive mud fight. And it will probably lose.
This case is another Masterpiece Cakeshop, another Fulton. The school district did something really stupid. It could easily have discuined the coach in a completely uncontroversial manner for a completely non-religion-related rationale. Instead, by unnecessarily and inappropriately injecting religion into its proceedings, and stupidly basing its actions on religion, it goofed and funbled and totally blew it.
Like Masterpiece Cakeshop and Fulton, the Supreme Court can easily rule narrowly here, and perhaps unanimously. It would give the suspended coach a win. But in doing so they can explaining how (whether explicitly or between the lines), school districts can easily discipline coaches in this type of situation without any constitutional problems, as long as they take care to avoid doing stupid things.
And like Masterpiece Cakeshop and Fulton, this latest addition to the list of “just don’t do stupid stuff” religion cases isn’t going to lead to any big changes in Religion Clause jurisprudence.
I see no possibility of a narrow ruling that will keep Kagan, Breyer and Sotomayor from concluding the coach's speech was government speech (thus his firing did not violate freedom of speech) and students were coerced (free exercise was not violated either).
They concurred in Masterpiece Cakeshop and Fulton, and people disn’t think a unanimous ruling would be possible. They would be foolish not to concur hear.
The coach wasn’t a teacher at the time he did his actions. This wasn’t the case of a teacher doing extra work for the school. He wasn’t doing anything for the school. He was suspended. He was specifically on his own time. That’s the whole point of what makes this case unique and narrow and not likely to be a precedent for very much. Breyer, Sottoneyor, and Kagan are smart enough to realize that.
The Establishment Clause requires state action. There wasn’t any here. It just doesn’t matter for Establishment Clause purposes what private individuals do or what affect they have on others. No state action, no Establishment Clause issue.
When a suspended teacher violates suspension by entering school property and acting like a teacher, he can be disciplined for violating the suspension, indepedently of what he does while violating the suspension. The proper basis for discipline here has nothing to do with religion. Breyer, Sottomeyor, and Kagan lose nothing if they end up writing a concurring opinion, much like Justice Sottomeyor did in Masterpiece Cakeshop, that just points out the simple course of action a school district can take if it wants to discipline a suspended teacher in a situation like this without running afoul of Establishment Clause problems. No fuss, no muss. As they did in Masterpiece Cakeshop and Fulton, they’d go for that to avoid any major change in Religion Clause precedents in a heartbeat.
Sotomayor and Ginsburg dissented in Masterpiece. Kagan and Breyer concurred. I boldly predict a 6-3 narrow opinion along the lines you present (but ask me again after oral arguments).
My bad, you are right, Masterpiece Cakeshop was not unanimous. It was Justice Kagzn who wrote the “how to achieve the same result without doing something stupid” concurrence in Masterpiece Cakeshop that might well also get written here. And Justice Breyer joined it but not Justice Sottomeyor.
You make it sound like if Kagan doesn't join a majority opinion with your narrow reasoning, then the Court will radically change doctrine. Let's assume you are right and Kagan joins the opinion. As with Masterpiece, she will write a concurrence explaining what the school should have done exactly on the lines you suggested. And another justice (it was Gorsuch in Masterpiece) will write a concurrence taking her to task by arguing the school couldn't have done so. What I can't figure out is the reasoning behind this conclusion (I expect all nine justices to agree the school could do as you suggested). So, I don't think your Masterpiece analogy holds.