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Gen. Michael Flynn's Brother v. CNN Lawsuit Over Allegations of Being a "QAnon Follower"
can go forward as to the "false light" claim, but not as to the libel claim (at least unless the plaintiff can amend his Complaint to adequately allege specific economic losses).
I blogged about the Magistrate Judge's decision, which would have thrown out the entire case on the grounds that the allegations were substantially true; today's decision (Flynn v. CNN) by District Judge Gregory H. Woods (S.D.N.Y.), however, takes a different approach:
On February 3, 2021, Defendant Cable News Network ("CNN") aired a report entitled "CNN Goes Inside A Gathering of QAnon Followers." The report included a brief clip of Lieutenant General Michael Flynn proclaiming, "where we go one, we go all." Plaintiffs John P. ("Jack") and Leslie A. Flynn (collectively, "the Flynns") are shown in the clip standing next to General Flynn, who is Jack's brother. The Flynns brought claims of defamation and false light against CNN, alleging that they are not followers of QAnon. CNN moved to dismiss the Flynns' claims, arguing that the Flynns' Twitter activity establishes that they were QAnon followers.
On October 22, 2021, Magistrate Judge Sarah L. Cave issued a Report and Recommendation (the "R&R") granting CNN's motion to dismiss the Flynns' claims with prejudice. The Court adopts the R&R in part and rejects it in part. Because the Flynns have not plausibly pleaded special damages or that CNN's statements were defamatory per se, the Flynns' defamation claim is dismissed. However, the Flynns sufficiently allege a false light claim. For those, and the other reasons set forth below, CNN's motion to dismiss is GRANTED in part and DENIED in part….
The Flynns object to Judge Cave's conclusion that the Flynns' tweets establish that they were QAnon followers. Whether the Flynns were QAnon followers, and in particular, whether the Flynns were "followers" as that word is understood in the context of CNN's publication, is a highly fact-intensive inquiry. Here, the Flynns specifically allege that they are not QAnon followers and allege that Jack's tweets show that he "embraced the Constitution and equal justice under the law … not the dangerous, extremist, racist, anti-Semitic and violent beliefs espoused by QAnon" and that he has "denied basic tenets of the QAnon movement."
At the motion to dismiss stage, the Court cannot discredit these factual allegations and must draw all reasonable inferences in the Flynns' favor. Further, although "[t]he truth of factual allegations that are contradicted by documents properly considered on a motion to dismiss need not be accepted," the Flynns' tweets do not conclusively contradict their factual allegations. Even though the tweets express support for QAnon and are therefore evidence that the Flynns were QAnon followers, the Court cannot weigh evidence in deciding a motion to dismiss. Instead, the Court's task is to assess the legal feasibility of the complaint.
Because the Court accepts the Flynns' allegation that they are not QAnon followers as true, the Flynns have plausibly alleged that CNN's statement was false. Consequently, the Flynns have also plausibly alleged that CNN's statement was defamatory…. "[F]alsely implying a connection to a violent extremist group can be defamatory." …
[But t]o adequately plead their defamation claim [under Rhode Island law], the Flynns must either plead special damages, or plead that CNN's statements are actionable as defamation per se. "[D]efamation per se is distinguished from defamation because in the former, 'a plaintiff can establish liability without a showing of special or pecuniary damages because those damages are presumed.'" "This presumption rests on the fact that in a defamation per se situation, the statements are so egregious and reputation shattering that there can be no question that the defamed party's reputation suffered as a result."
The complaint fails to allege sufficient facts to establish that the Flynns suffered special damages. To establish special damages the Flynns must allege actual economic harm.
Although Jack claims that he is "afraid that he will be terminated," the complaint does not contain any facts to support that the Flynns have suffered any actual economic harm….
The Flynns also fail to adequately plead that CNN's statements were defamatory per se…. "To be actionable as [defamation] per se—without proof of special damages—the false statement must impute to the other: (1) a 'criminal offense,' (2) a 'loathsome disease,' (3) a 'matter incompatible with his business, trade, profession, or office,' or (4) a 'serious sexual misconduct.'" For defamation affecting a business, "a statement is defamatory per se if it charges improper conduct, lack of skill, or integrity in one[']s profession or business, and is of such a nature that it is calculated to cause injury to one in his profession or business." "[T]he disparaging words must affect the plaintiff in some way that is peculiarly harmful to one engaged in his trade or profession; disparagement of a general character, equally discreditable to all persons, is not enough unless the particular quality is peculiarly valuable to the plaintiffs business or profession."
Here, the complaint alleges that CNN's statements "accuse and impute to Plaintiffs an unfitness to perform the duties of an office or employment for profit, including being members of a dangerous, violent, insurrectionist, domestic terrorist organization." The Flynns argue that "[b]y implying that the Flynns are prone to violence, lack good judgment and harbor extremist views, CNN has cast them as the opposite of good business people." The Flynns have not alleged any facts suggesting that these qualities are peculiarly valuable to Jack as a General Manager of a seafood processing business, or to Leslie as a stay-at-home mother. Instead, the defamation alleged by the Flynns is disparagement of a general character that would be equally discreditable to all persons, which is not actionable per se under Rhode Island law. Because the Flynns failed to plausibly allege that they suffered special damages or that CNN's statements were defamatory per se, CNN's motion to dismiss the Flynns' defamation claim is granted….
[But f]or the reasons described above, the Flynns have plausibly alleged that CNN published a false fact which implies an association which does not exist—that the Flynns were QAnon followers. CNN does not dispute that the Flynns have adequately pleaded the other elements of a false light claim. Accordingly, the Flynns have adequately pleaded a false light claim. See 9 R.I. Gen. Laws § 9-1-28.1(a)(4). CNN's motion to dismiss the Flynns' false light claim is denied.
The Rhode Island false light statute, which the court cites in the last paragraph, reads:
It is the policy of this state that every person in this state shall have a right to privacy which shall be defined to include … [t]he right to be secure from publicity that reasonably places another in a false light before the public [which covers situations where] …
(A) There has been some publication of a false or fictitious fact which implies an association which does not exist;
(B) The association which has been published or implied would be objectionable to the ordinary reasonable man under the circumstances.
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To be actionable as defamation per se the false statement must impute to the other a 'loathsome disease'?
Are there any such diseases anymore?
1. CNN reported a video posted to Twitter by Michael Flynn on 04July 2020, showing him and his family reciting an oath of allegiance that includes the phrase “Where we go one, we go all”
2. The phrase is originally from a 1990s sailing movie “White Squall”, but is now a motto of QAnon.
3. The exact wording of the oath taken by the Flynns is from a message posted by QAnon’s anonymous leader earlier — a message that encouraged his followers to take the oath.
4. The Flynns claim this: “It was not an oath of allegiance to QAnon, or any kind of oath at all. It was a simple family July 4 statement of support for each other”
5. So it’s a coincidence their family oath perfectly matches QAnon's
7. Michael Flynn shared the video on Twitter alongside the QAnon-linked hashtag #TakeTheOath — a tweet Jack Flynn then shared with his followers.
8. In the video, Michael Flynn recites the oath and his family members repeat after him. If it is their family oath, then Flynn doesn’t seem very acquainted with it. He’s seen reading the oath off his phone.
There is Q.
There are Anons.
There is no QAnon.
I am Anon. My oath is of 10 USC 502
I remember saying ominously "winter is coming" and people assumed it was a Song of Ice and Fire reference. Just coincidence. I knew of the novels, which may have numbered only two at the time (probably late 1990s), but I was waiting for GRRM to finish the series before I read it.
yes, we were thisclose to Flynn elevating Buffalo Hat Guy to King Of America
good thing all those dangerous insurrectionists were beaten to death, shot, denied medical care, and then thrown in prison for a tear
now decent Americans can finally sleep at night
5. So it’s a coincidence their family oath perfectly matches QAnon's
My hair is black with some grey.
George Clooney's hair is black with some grey.
Therefor I am a perfect match for George Clooney.
Two points :
First, we're told the QAnon lunacy is held by small numbers of freaks, basket-cases and weirdos. If that's so, it's pretty amazing to see so many regulars of this site turn-out to support the cause with tenuous bullshit arguments.
Second, a exact word-for-word match of a lengthy oath is a far more astounding "coincidence" than hair color. Even freaks, basket-cases and weirdos should be able to see that. Wuz needs to up his game a bit.....
Two points
The only point you seem to have is the one on the top of your empty head.
First, we're told the QAnon lunacy is held by small numbers of freaks, basket-cases and weirdos. If that's so, it's pretty amazing to see so many regulars of this site turn-out to support the cause with tenuous bullshit arguments.
Who the hell is supporting the QAnon "cause" here? Nevermind what the voices in that empty head are telling you, show me some quotes from someone here.
Second, a exact word-for-word match of a lengthy oath is a far more astounding "coincidence" than hair color. Even freaks, basket-cases and weirdos should be able to see that. Wuz needs to up his game a bit.....
You really do have the IQ of a turnip. The alleged overlap is between a fraction of the entire "oath" recorded by the Flynn family and a single short phrase from a 1990s movie that just also happens to be used as a motto by QAnon (whatever that label really refers to). There was no "exact word-for-word match of a lengthy oath" between what the Flynn's recorded and anything from QAnon.
Here's a fine-tuning of the analogy to make it clearer:
George Clooney's hair is black with some gray. My hair is also black with some gray. George Clooney as a whole person is an exact match for my hair.
Nope, Wuz: I'm afraid your being a fool doesn't permit you to have your own "facts".
The QAnon oath was released on 24 June, and reads as follows:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God. WWG1WGA [Where we go one, we go all].
The Flynn oath dates from 04July, and reads as follows:
I [name] do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office of which I am about to enter: so help me God. Where we go one, we go all. God bless America.
So you're wrong yet again! Don't you ever want to be something more than your handler's dupish tool?
LOL! You really do have shit for brains. Hmmmm...where have we heard that oath before, save for the short phrase at the end. Oh, I know...it's the exact (word-for-word) oath taken by every member of the U.S. Congress, as well as the VPOTUS. Here it is in a Schoolhouse Rock sort of format that might be appropriate for your cognitive abilities:
https://bensguide.gpo.gov/j-oath-office?highlight=WyJjb25zdGl0dXRpb24iLCJjb25zdGl0dXRpb24ncyJd
Except it ISN"T the exact (word-for-word) oath taken by every member of the U.S. Congress. You do realize that, don't you?
But it IS the exact (word-for-word) oath taken by QAnon cultists.
Flynn went word for word with the QAnon oath, reading it off his phone. All your weaseling bullshit doesn't change that fact at bit. You are saying this: "Well, if you just change a few words from the QAnon original, then it's kinda like other quotes"
That's exactly the sort of thing someone's dupish tool would say!
You are saying this: "Well, if you just change a few words from the QAnon original, then it's kinda like other quotes"
No, you fucking moron. I'm saying that it is the exact same word-for-word oath taken by VPOTUS and every member of Congress when being sworn into office (because it is) with a short phrase from a 1990s movie tacked onto the end.
Still waiting for those quotes of posters here supporting the "QAnon cause", whatever that is.
Here's what I don't understand, Wuz: As a purely factual matter, you know I'm right and you're wrong. The reason Flynn's oath was word-for-word QAnon's is because it was QAnon's - full stop, end of story.
For all of your sweaty flailing, you know that. As dumb as you are, even YOU have to know that. Yet comment after comment, you frantically defending a freakish crackpot like Flynn with endless nonsense drivel. Why? The Flynns are lying in their suit. That's obvious. They took the QAnon oath and send it out via a QAnon hastag. Obvious again.
Why the hell are you defending their lies? Didn't you get tired of doing that during the Trump years ?!?
Here's what I don't understand
You could overflow the Grand Canyon with what you don't understand.
By the way...where are the quotes of people "supporting the [QAnon] cause" here?
Holy crap! Kamala Harris and SCOTUS' wise latina are QAnon disciples!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngC-joYsxsY
Lying seems to be an entrenched tradition among this Flynn family.
Whether Michael Flynn is the only traitor in that family is an issue that likely will be illuminated during discovery. For the record, I believe it is possible that Michael Flynn is the family's sole traitor. And even if Charles Flynn also is a traitor, that does not mean plaintiffs John Flynn and Leslie Flynn necessarily are traitors.
Establishing that John and Leslie Flynn are not QAnon kooks, however, seems a difficult task. Where goes one Flynn, it appears in some important contexts, go all Flynns.
(Having losers like Michael and Charles Flynn aboard could explain why the American military hasn't won a war in 75 years, settling instead for a series of vague, costly draws against ragtag irregulars from one corner of the globe to another -- despite enormous taxpayer-funded resource advantages.)
"Are you now, or have you ever, been a member of QAnon?" is the new McCarthyism
you know, if, rather than the greatest evil the world has ever faced, McCarthy had instead been obsessed with a small group of drunken pamphleteers in costumes
and to close the circle of irony, Senators now openly celebrate the founding of the American Communist Party
The CIA agent who created QAnon deserves a promotion.
If I knew someone named Jean who had a long moustache and I said "Jean has a long moustache" that would be proof I was a follower of either Radio Londres, the French Marquis, or maybe both? Should I expect to answer to the Inquisition?
Does the Flynn accusation mean we have to study QAnon (or any other bugaboo group of the in-crowd clique's obsession) so we won't accidentally use the same words in the same order?
“Where we go one, we go all” is from the film White Squall Ridley Scott, 1996) based on the novel Last Voyage of the Albatross (1962). Looking to see if the book contains the quote, I found a play "Last Voyage of the Albatross" apparently based on Edgar Allan Poe's "MS Found in a Bottle" and "Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym", emphasizing why you cannot copyright titles. Or for that matter common phrases.
"We must all hang together, or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately."
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