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"As The Yale Law School World Turns": "The … Soap Opera Continues"
As I mentioned before, it's inside baseball, but it's about a tremendously important inside institution—and it's by David Lat, so it's as usual a great pleasure to read, which you can do for free here. A taste of the new stuff, though this item is about an Above The Law reaction to something at Yale rather that about Yale Law School's own actions:
There has been another (unjustified) uproar related to the Yale Federalist Society.
On November 5, the Yale Federalist Society hosted a murder-mystery event—as it has done every semester for the past three semesters, without incident. This year's event was called "Hell to the Chief: A Murder Mystery of Political Intrigue," and it involved the murder of a fictitious chief justice….
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This is why no one takes the grievance industry seriously....
No, lots of people do. Otherwise it wouldn't be something you would call an industry.
Also, the irony is great here; the vast majority of your posts are grievances of one kind or another - including this one!
For many conservatives these days irony is just that thing you do to get wrinkles out of your church pants.
Apparently you've never heard of Yogi Berra.
his posts don't and aren't attempts to destroy people's lives.
Lol, Lat opines about why several people aren't fired.
I don't understand what you're getting at. Even if you equate speaking second hand about disciplining a clear and intentional series of systematic misdeeds to directly attacking innocent people. Jimmy's post wasn't anything like these two things.
It's like the OP doesn't exist!
The vast majority of my posts point out double standards, liberal lies, and hypocrisy.
There are certainly enough liberal lies, hypocrisy and double standards to keep you busy. And liberals will no doubt be kept busy criticizing the hypocrisy of a conservatives electing a man the shape of whose d*** we know because of the testimony of multiple porn stars he hired to have sex with while his wife was too pregnant to service his needs.
There is a half remembered quote that I cannot find . Something about everyone standing on their own private pile of s*** complaining about other people's flies.
But it does explain why many people in biglaw have trouble taking YLS seriously. Sad to say, the rot seems to be permeating the entire university, due to the leadership of that moron Salovey.
many people in biglaw have trouble taking YLS seriously
This is the exact opposite of the legal market as I understand it.
" This is why no one takes the grievance industry seriously.... "
Bad news for the Volokh Conspiracy, which is nothing other than a disaffected, ankle-nipping element of the grievance industry.
Joe Patrice is an excellent illustration of why the bar really needs to tighten up its standards.
Grievances, did you say? Cancel culture?
ORLANDO — University of Florida administrators told faculty members they couldn’t use the words “critical” and “race” together in describing a new study, out of fear that it would antagonize state lawmakers who are contemplating a bill to ban critical race theory in state government, according to a grievance filed by the faculty union last week.
During a meeting with College of Education faculty in October, an associate dean said the graduate school wouldn’t approve anything with the word “critical” in the title of a curriculum initiative to examine race and antiracism.
Faculty members concluded that Paul Duncan was asking the college “to change the name of a proposed concentration titled ‘Critical Study of Race, Ethnicity, and Culture in Education,’ presumably to a title less offensive to the Florida legislature,” said the complaint filed by Christopher Busey, an associate professor, who said he was threatened with discipline if he used the words “critical race” in his curriculum design.
Eliminating the word critical is probably sound advice on the grounds that it does not meaningfully improve the information provided in many situation in which the word critical is used.
As a hard science guy myself, I find many writings in the soft sciences to be barely above gibberish. The Sokal hoax is objective confirmation of that hypothesis, that random word salad is indistinguishable from genuine sociology writings.
One definition of 'critical theory' is: a philosophical approach to culture, and especially to literature, that seeks to confront the social, historical, and ideological forces and structures that produce and constrain it. The term is applied particularly to the work of the Frankfurt School.. No matter how many times I read this, or other descriptions of critical theory, I still have no idea what they are talking about.
"Eliminating the word critical is probably sound advice"
Lol, my censorship and triggering are *good ideas!*
Oh, look, an activist who opposes a law claims he can't do something as an attempt to show that a law he doesn't like is silly.
How unfortunate for him the law hasn't even passed, and the proposed law clearly would not prevent his course (or have anything to do with the course name) in the first place.
If you can find anything in the bill that would prevent him from teaching his course, then congratulations! You've shown he's a racist. (And it still has nothing to do with the title of his course)
Toranth: This censorship is not that bad, and I like it, so there's that!
Depts of Education should all be shut down. They don't educate anyone and just push marxist bullshit. Teachers should have a real degree..hard science, economics, engineering and then serve as a teacher apprentice as two years...for middle school and high school. For elementary school a two year degree in humanites or science is just find and three years as an apprentice. No BA in Education..a total joke of a major for the most part.
"I don't know much about education departments or marxism, but here's my strong opinion about both!"
Hon, you are delusional, and have no credibility on any subject.
Add, dude, after delusional.
The linked piece seems to have more guesses than a third graders Trivial Pursuit game.
What parts do you think are guesses?
Which parts do you think? He literally labels some of them as such.
Footnote 7 of Lat's article is hilarious. 🙂
Uh, there is none.
There's some stuff in the link, but it's no _Ball Four_.
These Federalist Societeers -- Lat, Volokh, their fans -- won't stop until Yale Law School's ankles are thoroughly nipped!
Let's get this straight.
A YLS student sends out a party invite which, quite reasonably, might 'trigger' an administrator to think it was like problematic recent parties. They look into it and make an email condemning the language. Nothing really happens to the student.
This evokes posts from EV in the double digits.
Every week on Short Circuit there are single paragraphs about government cops or correctional officers beating people. EV has not peeps about those.
This is how you get people walking around focused on the former as Gestapo like activity rife in America and hardly noticing the latter.
The 'beating people' stories are already posted like you noted. Are you unhappy that is not posted multiple times?
Generic qualified immunity stories generally don't invoke very strong passions on either side of the aisle compared to the big wedge issues. If you want to get mad about this sort of thing get mad at the mainstream media who doesnt care unless the victim happens to be the right color/sexual orientation/etc. The VC actually covers this a lot more than they do. But they never claimed to the the Official Qualified Immunity Law Blog.
Issues near and dear to the leftist heart like garage door pulls that look like nooses are adequately covered by the likes of ABC/CNN/MSNBC/Yahoo/HUFFPOO etc.
If you are so upset at this tiny sliver of the internet covering something of interest from a vaguely classically liberal/center left (not rightwing) angle. Then you have 95% of the remaining mediasphere catering to your cravings for news from a hard left perspective.
"Hey, we gave brief nod to cases of government officials beating the shit out of people, why you hatin' on our two dozen posts on YLS sending out an email critical of a FedSoc student?"
Like I said if you want to cry about qualified immunity. Attack the 99.9999% of the media that is not covering it at all rather than the 0.0001% that is.
But the truth is that you do not care about qualified immunity. You are pissed off that under covered free speech issues are not even more undercovered and using the first issue as a diversion. You want people who suppress First Amendment rights and free speech culture to get away with it and crack down even more.
Hon, delusional, and an apologist for servants of the Chinese Commie Party. Not a good look for you.
Nope. Your comment went off the rails here.
A counter-revolutionary probably monkey-wrenched it.
There's a bit of a well covered history of racist themed college parties.
Yes, but this one doesn't come any where near plausibly fitting that patter.
“ Every week on Short Circuit there are single paragraphs about government cops or correctional officers beating people. EV has not peeps about those.”
EV is responsible for getting Short Circuits published here to increase its visibility, so he’s hardly trying to suppress knowledge about police and prison guard beatings.
If you recall, he used to post it himself until he gave IJ posting rights here.
Our future rulers. If they treat each other this way, how will they treat people they regard as inferiors?
" how will they treat people they regard as inferiors? "
You'll find out in a few years!
Yeah, we don't have any idea how Yale graduates behave when if power. We'll have to wait to see what they do.
Are you daft?
See the Yale scumbags, the Clintons, the Bushes. These are human scum produced by that garbage indoctrination camp of treason. Nearly every bad idea of enlarging government has come from that shithole or from the other shithole, Harvard. Shut them down, already.
How many posts about this so far, Prof. Volokh?
How many about Judge Kozinski?
You are welcome to attempt to explain those figures. You also are welcome to cower silently.
EV's selective choice of post topics is increasingly revealing. For a 'marketplace of ideas' guy he sure seems to want to zone his forum to certain kinds of stores...
Well maybe it's not your kind of place, but somehow you find it interesting enough to post 14 comments about it.
It's a marketplace of ideas. Mocking the clingers is part of market operations . . . and of the fun of it.
May the better ideas win!
(Of course, that's easy for me to say.)
Hi, Queenie. Delusional people should STFU.
Yeah, imagine a guy writing about whatever he wants in a free country. Shocking!
That is precisely how this works.
The professors (a couple of them, at least) write about whatever they want.
Then we point out what that says about them (and their fans).
OK, Boomer. Kozinsky did nothing wrong, you vile feminist vile running dog.
That certainly explains Prof. Volokh's decision to stop writing about Judge Kozinski precisely when the revelations and resignation occurred!