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Pro Querente
Just saw this for the first time in a complaint filed by a Montana lawyer; Black's Law Dictionary reports that it means "for the plaintiff," but a Westlaw search uncovered a mere seven cases mentioning this, six from 1793 to 1835 and one from 2019. So I wouldn't recommend using it; but at least now we know what it means when we come across it.
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It's not particularly obscure as Latin; it transparently means "for the asking [person]". Though it has "querente" where you'd expect "quaerente".
As in Simon & Garfunkle’s “Carmen Pro Quaerente.”
The spelling of asthetic and aether were Americanized to esthetic and ether. But it looks like quaere was changed to query much earlier.
Now it will be everywhere, thanks to you. Good job, sir!
thefreedictionary states that it is usually abbreviated, pro quer.
usually?
Doug,
Pro quer.
That would be gay rights advocacy groups, right?
[rimshot]
Only the Catholic Church uses Latin today. The use of any Latin promotes Catholicism. It should be banned. Ot violates the Establishment Clause, like a cross in a flag. It fails to give notice being in a foreign language. Any legal utterance containing Latin should be entirely void for those reasons.
Speaka the English, lawyer dipshits.
"Any legal utterance containing Latin should be entirely void for those reasons."
Q.E.D.
Is a Sharia based legal utterance OK? What should be done with the utterance?
The legal system of the current united states has its history in ancient Rome. Because, ancient Romans, at one time, conquered most of what is currently Europe.
So, the latin remnants in law (and math) are mostly due to a european, or roman, influence.
The Arabs did the same. I read the Sharia, liked 90% of it. Muslim countries have low crime, low bastardy, no alcohol problems. Ditch the catechism, start plagiarizing the Sharia. What should be done with a legal utterance filled with Arabic letters spelling Arabic legal concepts from the Sharia? Is it OK in our secular country?
Hi, Eugene, Mr. National First Amendment Expert.
Let's move on from Latin.
Does the court room look like anything to you?
The bench?
The robe of the judge?
The solemnity, the stentorian tones, instead of the inquisitiveness?
The stained glass windows of the court?
The standing, the sitting, the standing, the sitting?
Then we have the worst of all lawyer failures, the adversarial system, which is a totally failed quackery. Where is that from? Here is a clue from 10th Grade World History, you moron. It is from the disputation method of Scholasticism. That was a failed attempt by the Church to prove the existence of God by empirical evidence. As you know the Church is slow to change. It gave up on Scholasticism in the 19th Century. Only the American lawyer still subscribes to that failed methodology, cool in the 1200's, really idiotic, nasty, and destructive in the 2020's, you moron.
Why on earth would the lawyer profession cling to 13th Century practices, to lawless church based practices, in insurrection against the constitution of this secular nation?
The Rent Seeking Theory is the Grand Unifying Theory of all lawyer failure.
I do want to sincerely apologize to people with mild intellectual disabilities, for comparing them to lawyer morons. People with ID still have good common sense. Their English is clear and easy to understand. All would make much better Supreme Court Justices than the current crop of losers on the bench today.
You’re talking to yourself again, Davey.
There is no editing of the comments, lawyer dipshit. And the typos are not evidence of dementia, wankers. They are evidence of fingers on a small telephone screen. There are no typos on a laptop. You people are a little nitpicky, a form of bad faith. The best remedy to bad faith is a visit by guys with mullets, driving 1986 Camaros.
No, you didn't. "The Sharia" is not a text.
Fruit of the poisonous tree.
https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/what-does-fruit-of-the-poisonous-tree-mean-in-criminal-proceedings-35403
Don't know about Latin, but I do know that in Italian, 'querela' means lawsuit.
This sounds like what I did in 9th grade. In an effort to expand my vocabulary and impress the English teacher, I'd find obscure and/or archaic words to use. More and more often until she simply gave me an F with the note "I'm tired of looking up words, stop it." with all my 'special' words circled heavier and heavier up until that note.
Perhaps Judge Selya would appreciate this strategy but otherwise I do not recommend it.
I was hot for English teacher at that age. A little punk said, she would be 90, you now have a chance with her. She dated the Health Teacher. He told us his breakfast consisted of a cup of coffee, and a cigarette. I was jealous.
This phrase should be taken out and shot.