Today in Supreme Court History: June 28, 2010

6/28/2010: McDonald v. City of Chicago is decided.

Comments

[Dan Schiavetta]

"It was a strange feeling -- being the only black person in a room full of white guys."

-- Otis McDonald, after meeting with the Second Amendment Foundation, who financed his case

[DaivdBehar]

Democrats want only their clients to be armed, the criminals. Self help is ghe sole universal feature of all jurisdictions with low crime rates. Gun safety should be taught in school. All law abiding citizens should conceal carry. All should be required to shoot at a violent criminal. Kill a repeat offender, get $10000. Fail to try, get a fine for $100.

The fentanyl overdose crisis is likely to end the criminal law criminal protection racket. This is the biggest failure of the toxic lawyer protection, 15 million common law crimes, 5 million being violent, 100 million internet crimes. You stink, you stinking lawyers.

[Aktenberg78]

Violent and feral black criminals are an important part of the Democrats' voting base. Without the George Floyd and Rashawn Brooks of the world, they'd never be able to win elections.

[Krychek_2]

And without anti-democratic institutions like the electoral college and two senators per state, Republicans would never win elections.

[Bob from Ohio]

Without equal representation in the Senate, there won't be a US to have elections.

[Krychek_2]

I doubt this. The Union might not have formed in the first place without equal representation of states in the Senate, but if we woke up tomorrow to find that it had disappeared for some reason, I doubt the Union would dissolve. There would be much complaining from Helena and Cheyenne and Pierre and Bismarck, but complaining is pretty much all they do anyway. North Dakota needs New York far more than New York needs North Dakota, and in its more rational moments, North Dakota understands that.

[Bob from Ohio]

ND does not need NY.

NYC as the financial center of the USA is very important. NYC as the financial center of the Greater New England Republic is less so.

Plus ND has nukes, NY does not

[Krychek_2]

If ND left the union, its nukes would almost certainly be transferred elsewhere before it happened. (Assuming it were even allowed to happen; there is precedent for states attempting to leave the union.)

NYC would continue as the financial center of the Western world. ND's economy would rapidly go into a tailspin. The idea that any state, or even of the together, would do better without the US is risible. Just take a look at how much of ND's budget comes from the federal government.

[Krychek_2]

"or even *several of them together*. We really need an edit function.

[Bob from Ohio]

"NYC would continue as the financial center of the Western world."

No it would not.

If the USA fell apart, California is either going to be its own republic or a part of a west coast one. Its not going to be joined with NY, 2500+ miles and 3 time zones away.

Neither will Texas, the Mountain West, Mid West or South or 2/3 of NY state for that matter.

All those parts will do their banking in their regions. NYC, which has nothing but finance, will rapidly decline.

[Krychek_2]

You're assuming the federal government would allow the US to completely disintegrate. As I said, there is precedent for that.

[David Nieporent]

All those parts will do their banking in their regions. NYC, which has nothing but finance, will rapidly decline.

There are so many levels on which this is dumb, including the fact that banking microstates do quite well.

[Bob from Ohio]

Yawn, another Nieporent insult comment.

[Aktenberg78]

Yeah, but banking microstates, like Cayman, Singapore, Luxembourg, Cyprus and so forth rely on other places for their natural resources. Do you think the rest of America is going to continue providing NYC with food, water, and energy?

[Aktenberg78]

How much of NY's economy is the result of Fed printing?

[Krychek_2]

How much of North Dakota's economy is the result of fed printing?

[Aktenberg78]

Very little.

[Krychek_2]

Have a look at which states are most financially dependent on the federal government:

https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/

Except Alaska, it's pretty much all red states.

[Krychek_2]

Sorry, except New Mexico it's mostly all red states. Where's that edit function?

[Aktenberg78]

This set of lies has been disproven so many times no one can put forth this in good faith.

[Krychek_2]

No it hasn't. It's been greeted with outrage by the red states, but I haven't seen any hard numbers that show it to be wrong. If you have some, feel free to pass them along.

[Bob from Ohio]

Its just federal mandated welfare spending. States would not need that money if they were not required to spend it.

[Aktenberg78]

Bob, not to mention that military bases, government offices, and other things are allocated to the states where they are located. For example, any spending by the NIH gets allocated to Maryland. That's just stupid.

[DaivdBehar]

The Founders debated this point. They did not want the country to become the sewer that was NYC even in those days of no sewers.

[DonP]

Otis may be a part of history to most now (RIP). But some of us in Chicago recall him as a really nice, easy going guy. A guy that I'd see every few Friday's at DiCola's Seafood at 108th and Western. Picking up his carry out Lake Perch and Shrimp.

He was also just another "little" guy, ignored by the police and politicians he tried to get to pay attention. He finally got pissed off at Chicago's dictatorial and hypocritical gun laws that allowed the privileged (i.e. Democrat Legislators and their "friends") to own firearms but left Otis, his wife and their home (3 blocks from the 22nd CPD District) open to break ins and personal harm. (4 garage and 2 attempted home break ins in less than 3 weeks).

The SAF, ISRA and a bunch of "white men" may have financed his case (I guess Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, ACLU, NAACP and DNC checkbooks just weren't available)? But the result of his tenacity and their funding, at least "started" to give every Chicago resident, of any color, their 2nd amendment rights back.

Over a decade later and still not a single gun shop or shooting range in the entire city. "Zoning" restrictions, of course. The spirits of Bathhouse John Coughlin and Hinky Dink McKenna are still alive and well in Chicago politics.

[DaivdBehar]

The Democrat Party is the party of the lawyer. Mandatory sentencing guidelines were enacted to save the lawyer profession from the seething anger of the public about soaring crime. They dropped crime 40% across the board. They also caused massive lawyer unemployment. So Scalia, Justice "Hang Em High" led the charge against them. Crime soared in our cities. Lawyer employment improved.

Rent seeking explains all anomalous lawyer and Democrat policies. That is a form of armed robbery, and should be criminalized.

[DaivdBehar]

The simplest best remedy for your friend, Otis, would be to move to a white Republican jurisdiction. Leave Chicago to the animals who run it. No doubt, this Supreme Court decision did not help Otis improve his life. He would be most welcome in such a place once they learn he is an ordinary person and not a vicious animal.

The second would be to get a pit bull, and have it bite the vile Democrats invading his property. When they are down, beat their ass with a stick. To deter.

[Dan Schiavetta]

Otis was a good man with good intentions, but misguided. He really believed an elderly man with a gun in a tenement stairwell stood a chance against a thug who jumps him from behind. The result, of course, is a thug who now has a gun.

The gun ban was passed by the City Council in 1982 and always enjoyed broad voter support.

[PeteRR]

Nice to hear the criminals side of the argument on occasion.