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The Existing Duty Not to Continue Displaying Posts on Physical Property -- an Analog to a Similar Duty as to Online Posts
I'm continuing to serialize my forthcoming law review article on the duty to correct your own libelous posts, once you learn that they are libelous.
(For the full draft PDF, with footnotes, see here.)
A duty not to keep hosting material that you've learned is defamatory is thus a good idea, and is constitutional [for reasons given below]. It could certainly be instituted by statute.
But I think courts can also sensibly develop it under normal libel law principles; indeed, Restatement (Second) of Torts § 577 already points in this direction:
(1) Publication of defamatory matter is its communication intentionally or by a negligent act to one other than the person defamed.
(2) One who intentionally and unreasonably fails to remove defamatory matter that he knows to be exhibited on land or chattels in his possession or under his control is subject to liability for its continued publication.
Subsection (1) sets forth the general way that people can be liable for defamation: by communicating it. And that includes continuing to communicate it after one learns that the material is false.
Say a publisher prints some number of copies of a yellow pages phone book, without realizing that there is a defamatory error in one of the ads; but then the publisher keeps distributing the phone book even after it learns that the ad is defamatory. Such "continuation of distribution after the error had been brough to the attention" of defendants may well be actionable "communication … by a negligent act." "[A]llowing additional distribution of the yellow pages directories" is a continued communication which may itself be libelous. And that logic would apply to continued distribution online as much as to continued distribution of paper copies.
Subsection (2) also makes clear that one way of actionably communicating defamation is by knowingly retaining it on one's property. This doesn't hold a property owner strictly liable simply because someone posted something on the property, nor does it impose a duty to monitor property for such postings.[1] But once someone informs a property owner that there is defamatory material posted on its property, the owner must take reasonable steps to take down the material. And this applies to material on "chattels," such as computer equipment, and not just "land." In the words of one district court,
[E]ven assuming that the Gazette acted completely reasonably in publishing the AP article on its website, it is clear that at some point the Gazette learned of both the article's presence on its website and the article's inaccuracies. It is due to this that the Court cannot in good conscience find that the wire service defense [which would have immunized Gazette's original publication of the AP article] provides a complete defense for the Defendant. Cf., Restatement (Second) of Torts § 577(2) (stating that "one who intentionally and unreasonably fails to remove defamatory matter that he knows to be exhibited on land or chattels in his possession or under his control is subject to liability for its continued publication").[2]
Now the classic examples of this § 577(2) liability have involved property owners liable for failing to remove third-party posts on their property—for instance, when a married woman sued a bar for not removing graffiti that suggested that she was interested in sex with strangers,[3] or when a factory failed to remove a posted leaflet that defamed an employee to his coworkers.[4] There likely wouldn't be liability today for such third-party posts on a person's web site, because of 47 U.S.C. § 230, which immunizes such sites from liability for third-party posts generally.
But the text of § 577(2) would also apply to liability for intentionally and unreasonably failing to remove one's own defamatory posts (which aren't immunized by § 230). And its logic would as well.
Say that both Earl and Donna post signs on Donna's property accusing Paul of something. And say that Donna reasonably believe that her own accusation is true (and state law declines to impose strict liability). Donna is then not initially liable for either posting. But once Donna learns about Earl's accusation and learns that it's false, she can be held liable for it under § 577(2). There's no reason why she should be less liable for her own accusation once she likewise learns that it's false.
Why the Duty is Constitutional
A duty to stop hosting articles on one's site once one learns that they are false and defamatory is [also] consistent with the First Amendment. "[T]he lie, knowingly and deliberately published" is constitutionally unprotected.[5] It follows that falsehood knowingly and deliberately maintained in one's online publication should be equally constitutionally unprotected.
As noted above, the duty does impose some burden on publishers, and might create something of a chilling effect. When publishers get correction demands, which claim that a statement is defamatory, they would have to investigate whether the demands are well-founded. And if there's some uncertainty, then the publishers might be reluctant to stand by a story, even if they are still confident in the story, for fear that jurors will rule against them and conclude that they were reckless.
But, returning to the example with Ophelia and Randy, that's precisely the situation Ophelia's newspaper faced when Starlight got the exculpatory information to Ophelia in time, before Ophelia's story was published. There too the newspaper might have been uncertain, and might have been chilled from running the story despite the mens rea protections that the First Amendment provides.
That was enough for Justices Black, Douglas, and Goldberg to argue in New York Times Co. v. Sullivan that libel law should be absolutely rejected, at least as to matters of public concern. Yet the majority disagreed, and concluded that the "actual malice" standard protected publishers enough, despite the residual chilling effect. Likewise, the Gertz v. Robert Welch Inc. majority concluded ten years later that the negligence standard sufficed for proven compensatory damages based on speech about private figures. If that's true for lawsuits based on prepublication decisions to publish (as in the lawsuit against Ophelia's newspaper), it should be equally true for lawsuits based on postpublication decisions to keep distributing a published story (as in the lawsuit against Randy's newspaper).
A duty to stop distributing libelous material might be limited in one important way: Once a libelous statement is published, totally removing it might hide important facts about its having been published. Say, for instance, that Donna's story accused Paul of some crime. This could well have led to controversy, with people publicly criticizing Donna and her publisher for what she wrote; if Paul then sued, there would have been stories about the lawsuit.
Totally removing Paul's name from the original story might make it harder for future researchers to fully understand those follow-up criticisms and news accounts. In a sense, there now would be "constitutional value in [the] false statements of fact" in the original story, because their having been said is itself an important fact. (This is indeed one basis for the neutral reportage privilege, under which some states allow speakers to report on allegations, even false ones, when the allegations are an important part of public debate.)
Because of this, a publisher should be free not to remove the libelous statement but instead to correct it, by adding a prominent note—preferably at the start of the story—reflecting the newly discovered information. Indeed, standard libel principles would already allow this, since reasonable readers would then no longer interpret the story as making the original (now-corrected) accusation. But in any event it should be constitutional for the law to impose liability if no such correction is made, and the publisher leaves up the unaltered defamatory even after it learns that the story is false.
[1] "[T]he duty arises only when the defendant knows that the defamatory matter is being exhibited on his land or chattels, and he is under no duty to police them or to make inquiry as to whether such a use is being made." Restatement (Second) of Torts § 577 cmt. p.
[2] Taub v. McClatchy Newspapers, Inc., 504 F. Supp. 2d 74, 80 (D.S.C. 2007); see also Cornelius v. Deluca, No. 1:10-CV-027-BLW, 2010 WL 4923030, *3–*4 (D. Idaho Nov. 29, 2010) (suggesting that defendant could be held liable for keeping up a post once it learns that its agent had posted a defamatory item and "unreasonably failed to take steps to remove it"), modified on reconsideration as to other matters, 2011 WL 977054 (D. Idaho Mar. 15, 2011); Barnes v. Yahoo!, Inc., 570 F.3d 1096 (9th Cir. 2009) (suggesting that a web site operator could be liable for failing to remove libelous material, though concluding that in that case the defendant was immune under 47 U.S.C. § 230, given that the material was posted by a third party).
[3] Hellar v. Bianco, 244 P.2d 757 (Cal. Ct. App. 1952); see also Tidmore v. Mills, 32 So. 2d 769, 777–78 (Ala. Ct. App. 1947); Woodling v. Knickerbocker, 17 N.W. 387, 388 (Minn. 1883). But see Scott v. Hull, 259 N.E.2d 160 (Ohio Ct. App. 1970) (rejecting liability in a similar situation).
[4] See, e.g., Tacket v. General Motors Corp., 836 F.2d 1042, 1045 (7th Cir. 1987); see also Dillon v. Waller, No. 95APE05-622, 1995 WL 765224 (Ohio Ct. App. Dec. 26, 1995); Kenney v. Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., No. WD 59936, 2002 WL 1991158, *12 (Mo. Ct. App. Aug. 30, 2002), rev'd on other grounds, 100 S.W.3d 809 (Mo. 2003).
[5] Garrison v. Louisiana, 379 U.S. 64, 75 (1964).
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Eugene, please refrain from using racially insensitive slurs in your articles. "Yellow pages" should be referred to as "recycled pulp telephone directories".
I'm not a lawyer so pardon my ignorance. I would assume a publisher is not liable if they only publish allegations instead of claiming actual crimes. For instance, if I say "Marvey Feinstein allegedly raped two women", I have not defamed Marvey even if the allegation is bogus. In that example, the person who alleges the crime does so without cause and I assume is the one who is guilty of defamation. Isn't that also how contemporary journalists publish outlandish claims without being sued for defamation. They can smear someone by publishing allegations provided by the typical "anonymous sources" who are too afraid to reveal themselves?
When "alleged criminal" stories are based on police reports they are protected by a privilege to report such official government statements. Not sure if that covers the allegations against your hypothetical Feinstein.
I suspect (but am uncertain) that there's some sort of "reasonable person" standard. If the two alleged victims tell Rabbi that X raped them last week, then I think Rabbi could repeat that allegation without liability. But if they both told him, "X raped me last week, in New Zealand." [and everyone lives in, say, New York, and Rabbi knows these women and knows they were not in NZ last week] then I'm guessing that his reliance on their statements is unreliable, and he would be liable.
But maybe not. Maybe he is, in fact, protected if he publishes, "C and B told me that X raped them last week in New Zealand. I don't think C and B were in NZ last week. But, they did make this specific allegation." I mean, Rabbi would be making a completely truthful and accurate publication.
You can face liability for publication of a libel, even if you are not the original author. So if, say, a radio station plays a recording of a person falsely accusing another person of a crime, the radio station can be prosecuted for libel even if the person actually said exactly what the recording said they said. If you publish a libel, you can't defend yourself by saying "this other person said it and we're just reporting what they said".
Interesting. I did not know this. (Which is why it's a good thing I never went into First Amendment law.) To give an example (and, obviously, changing the quote a bit from what he really said): If President Trump had said, in a news conference, "All Mexicans are rapists and drug smugglers," I would not expect Fox News and CNN to be liable for live-covering it, nor for replaying it on each of that night's different shows. I would not expect the Wall Street Journal or the LA Times to be liable for the next day's articles, "President Trump raised eyebrows last night, when he called all Mexicans "Rapists and drug smugglers." " That just seems counter-intuitive, and not in line with my understanding of Constitutional protections.
This specific example doesn't work because statements about an entire race or similar group are not defamation.
There are privileges in some states that allow you to report on official statements by government officials or in government proceedings on matters of public concern without being liable. There's both the fair reporting privilege and the neutral reporting privilege. But the contours of those privileges vary, so be careful.
Turns out "allegedly" is not the magic defamation shield that many people believe it to be. The same type of people who believe that if a cop doesn't read you your Miranda rights when you're arrested, the arrest is invalid.
See also: "People are saying..."
But if you ask the putative hooker whether she's a cop or not, she has to tell the truth, right?
I don't know anything about them hooker cops. But when they send in the explorers to buy booze, they tell the kids to show their real, actual ID that shows them to be underage. Whereas the ones who pretend to be teenage runaways online tend to be past the age of consent. so you CAN be convicted of soliciting sex with a minor even if there is no minor to have sex with.
This is another area of total lawyer failure. There are now billions of defamatory statements everywhere, in interpersonal speech, online, on property, on self postings (pictures of drunken revelry in college are no longer true of the job applicant, nor of his interviewer, either). These are disruptive. The lawyer remedy is slow, expensive, and ineffective. Most current authors of defamation are judgement proof, like the dipshit commenters here. Eugene's high IQ was destroyed by 1L. Come on. This is ridiculous, and obvious to any 4th grader.
Why not make it a crime for any party to act on such, with fines and damages? Such parties would not be judgement proof.
It seems well within our reach to make an AI that can rephrase any potentially defamatory allegation of fact to make it be able to be interpreted as opinion.
One could call it a "defamation risk filter".
Can you also do an end run by publishing something that is widely quoted, then taking down the copy on your own site?
And then of course we have the wayback machine hosted on the Internet Archive.
Technology is the hare and this law is a tortoise.
"It seems well within our reach to make an AI that can rephrase any potentially defamatory allegation of fact to make it be able to be interpreted as opinion."
Are you familiar with autocorrect? We can't even make AI rephrase what we meant to say out of what we said.
You might be thinking of autocomplete. I believe most autocorrect is just pattern matching, not really AI. NLP is a notoriously difficult problem. Prediction is hard because generating idiosyncratic natural text is hard and needs lots of data. Rephrasing stuff is much less hard.
"You might be thinking of autocomplete."
No, it says I was thinking of autocorrect.
Which you can tell because I went on to describe autocorrect.
Within this context, it appears ONCE AGAIN the Washington Post has "corrected" a fake story about Trump.
This time, it was in regards to the quotes that the Washington Post attributed to Trump in his discussion with the Secretary of State for Georgia. These supposed quotes were used as part of the basis for the impeachment. And again, they were...fake quotes.
What is the relevant duty here? Should a President be impeached, partially for actions and quotes, which are not actually true? Are there any consequences?
https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/16/washington-post-accuses-trump-of-a-crime-based-on-fabricated-quotes/#.YFClqPFbsxA.twitter
The Trump Georgia phone call was disinformation, eh? I guess I can't say I'm surprised.
If only someone had had the foresight to record it.
They did....But then they didn't use the actual recording for the news. I guess it wasn't powerful enough. Just an "anonymous source" for the memory. So "different" quotes could be "remembered"
Or... and this is a wild guess... the person who wrote the first article didn't have the recording, like the later ones did. By the time the TV news was covering the story, they had audio clips to play.
"If only someone had had the foresight to record it."
Apparently the recording was released, which is why the NYT, Wapo, et al had to correct their stories.
The thing was, the actual recording of the call that was released didn't clear Trump of wrongdoing.
Trump's guilt was real in my mind and that is all that really matters to me. My personal truth comes from the lived experiences of a Jew in a horribly anti-Semitic America. Who would dare question the validity of my individual circumstances?
"Trump’s guilt was real in my mind"
And that's the only place is was real.
I guess it depends on whether or not you find facts persuasive.
I guess it depends on whether you base your "facts" on the actual quotes, or just what anonymous sources "remember"
They played clips of the actual call in the TV news coverage and in the late-night talk shows. But those were all fake news, because Trump didn't like it, right?
On the surface, impeachment was not caused by the defamatory statements any more than your speeding ticket was caused by the BLM bumper sticker on your car.
You are conflating two separate stories.
The call to Raffensperger was at the beginning of January. It was reported on Jan 3, and the tape was released at the same time.
The AP/WaPo correction relates to a later story, about a Jan 9 call to an investigator working for Raff.
The Trump call the investigator, Frances Watson, was on Dec. 23.
Grammar English not your good, eh?
What is the relevant duty here? Should a President be impeached, partially for actions and quotes, which are not actually true? Are there any consequences?
1. WaPo issued a correction. That was their duty.
2. No.
3. Yes, but not legal ones. The consequences come about when people stop buying their 'media product' and advertising revenue dries up. If the product [false stories] is unreliable crap, people stop consuming it. WaPo Readership will render that decision.
I suspect WaPo will remain afloat as long as it is owned by Jeff Bezos and his desire for open borders and middle aged Latinas remains unsatiated.
Seems weird for you to lie in a rant about a fake story. No, it was not in regards to the quotes that the Washington Post attributed to Trump in his discussion with the Secretary of State for Georgia. No, they were not used as the basis for impeachment. No, they were not "fake" in a substantive way. They were accurate paraphrases of what he said; the only error by the Post was using quotation marks around paraphrases.
What if a new print run of Yellow Pages would be really expensive. Is there any equitable defense? For example, a judge in Massachusetts may decline to order a minor trespass removed if doing so would be unreasonably costly. But removing a trespass is an equitable remedy to start with.
We think of the web as being easily changed. On most publishing systems it is. Some backup systems are not designed to be able to change history. AT&T's Plan 9 was designed to back up to write once media, and lots of systems do not offer the ability to edit backups. The backup system I use makes immutable snapshots. At least, I don't know how to mutate them short of erasing the entire backup. The similar snapshot-based system on desktop Macs requires you to override security settings most people don't know about to erase one file from an old backup. I can imagine a dispute down the road where a judge would like to say "delete that one file from all your backups" but the defendant says "that means erasing the rest of my life too." Maybe more likely in an IP case than a defamation case. (Or a divorce case where one ex just wants to ruin the other ex's life.)
Why is a hypothetical judge hypothetically ordering you to delete hypothetical files from your hypothetical backups?
I was interested in your reference to the Restatement. I was once under the impression that they were what the name indicates, a rewrite in clear form of the already established law.
It seems in this case that the R of T has gotten out over its skis, even if in a direction that I agree is sensible.
Given that that reference is not supported by case law, how persuasive is it?
I'd like to learn the specifics of how one can be defamed by a phone book.
“Coastal Transmission Service, Inc. (Coastal) and its president and owner, Richard Barrow, sued Southern Bell Telephone and Telegraph Company (Southern Bell) for libel. The alleged libel appeared in Coastal’s display advertisement in the 1981 Southern Bell yellow pages telephone directory.
“Instead of the Coastal slogan, ‘Get it in gear,’ Southern Bell printed the words, ‘Get it in rear.’ Barrow’s name appeared in the body of the ad as the owner of Coastal. Both plaintiffs alleged that the ad exposed them to public hatred, contempt, and ridicule, causing injury to their reputations for honesty, integrity, and virtue.”
Truth is a defense.
Just saw this story which is an interesting example of a current legal fight over correcting or retracting an incorrect story.