Was Trump's Operation Warp Speed a Success?
Join Reason on YouTube and Facebook Thursday at 1 p.m. Eastern for a discussion about lessons from the COVID-19 pandemic with Institute for Progress founder Alec Stapp.
The COVID-19 pandemic and the government's response to it cost millions of lives and trillions of dollars and resulted in a major hit to global freedom. What should governments, private companies, and individuals do differently next time disaster strikes?
Alec Stapp, co-founder of the Institute for Progress, has assembled a team devoted to analyzing and applying the lessons of the pandemic. The institute has published papers arguing that Operation Warp Speed was a success that should be duplicated, for greater investment in indoor filtration, and for better biosurveillance. Join Reason's Zach Weissmueller and Liz Wolfe this Thursday at 1 p.m. Eastern on YouTube or Facebook for a live conversation with Stapp about how to prevent the next global catastrophe.
- WaPo: Opinion - Biden's vaccine project needs to be more like Operation Warp Speed - https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/05/02/biden-vaccines-next-gen-operation-warp-speed/
- Indiana University/RAND study: Vaccines may have averted up to 140,000 US deaths - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9937640/
- GAO: Operation Warp Speed analysis - https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-21-319.pdf
- Eric Topol on slowing FDA approval until after the 2020 election - https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1314979190555340800
- Institute for Progress: How to re-use the Operation Warp Speed model - https://progress.institute/how-to-reuse-the-operation-warp-speed-model/
- Institute for Progress: Research into far-UVC could prevent future pandemics - https://progress.institute/response-to-the-epas-request-for-information-on-better-indoor-air-quality-management/
- Institute for Progress: Weighing the cost of the pandemic - https://progress.institute/weighing-the-cost-of-the-pandemic/
- Our World in Data: Vaccine innovation by type - https://ourworldindata.org/vaccination
- Our World in Data: Land use by energy source - https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-per-energy-source
- Alec Stapp in The Atlantic: What Many Progressives Get Wrong About Climate Change - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/capitalism-clean-energy-technology-permitting/671545/
- Institute for Progress: The Case for High-Skilled Immigration - https://progress.institute/the-case-for-high-skilled-immigration/
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Most. Libertarian. President. Evah.
Trump may well have been the most libertarian president of my lifetime, but that's a testament to how low the bar is, not to him being any sort of libertarian.
Unless you're under 43 Carter was easily more libertarian. Go back 100 years and Coolidge was most libertarian.
Carter was responsible for real deregulation - not the mealy-mouth little shit Trump tried.
Carter made one very smart move - he installed Alfred Kahn as Chairman of the Council on Wage and Price Stability. Kahn did the rest. Carter was frequently against Kahn, but signed the bills anyway. Kahn was blunt and cantankerous and he cajoled Carter into doing the right things.
He also hired Volcker.
price control carter? Mr union? Please.
put on a fucking sweater.
Carter rejected price controls like Nixon had done.
Jimmy Carter, The Great Deregulator
https://www.theregreview.org/2023/03/06/dudley-jimmy-carter-the-great-deregulator/
gas price controls were lifted under Reagan sir.
Are you suggesting that Soros’ Pedo Bushpig 2 was being dishonest?
Carter with Brzezinski armed the mujahideen as Biden is arming the Banderas.
DOed and DOE are just amazing libertarian institutions.
The Carter reformation project of the last decade identifies the leftist infiltration into libertarian institutes. Nothing more.
Carter's deregulation was mostly acts of Congress pursuant to reports from commissions that'd been inaugurated by the Nixon administration. Carter's executive actions had nowhere near the deregulatory impact of Trump's.
Besides, Congress at that time could hardly fail to reform things in a deregulatory direction, because of the accretion to that point of such a powerful regulatory regime. You had a lot of regulatory schemes that began anywhere from 100 years earlier to relatively recent. Regression to the mean by itself would've produced significant deregulation. Today we don't have the ICC to abolish or a telecom monopoly to dismantle (which was done judicially rather than by legislative or executive action). The Nixon administration had put controls on oil and gas which were relatively easy to abolish since they weren't of long standing.
If you’re under 43, Carter wasn’t president in your lifetime you retarded fuck.
And nobody that posts here was alive when Coolidge was president.
You’re forgetting Mr. Hank ‘Comstock and Mystical Bigots’ Phillips.
I remember that. He deregulated the speed limit from 70mph to 55mph.
And then Sammy Hagar singing "I can't Drive 70" wouldn't have had the same ring to it.
Or, looked at the other way, it's a testament to how high people set the bar on what is "a libertarian". If other ideologies had purity tests that stringent, there'd be only a tiny handful of "liberals", "conservatives", "socialists", etc.
First find out where the center is, weighting everyone's opinions equally. Then gauge which direction a deviation from the center is. That's how to judge.
No fair just designating your own ideas as the center because they're "correct". Everybody thinks that way. Nobody's correct. These are all opinions, not testable facts.
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Rather hilarious coming from you since you spent the entire pandemic pushing the vaccine Trump rushed through with no regulatory oversight and stated that anyone who refused to get the vaccine and wear 3 paper masks on their face was "an asshole" and was personally responsible for killing your grandmother. Almost like you're an unprincipled piece of shit alcoholic Marxist faggot or something.
Operation Warp Speed trumped Operation Crap Pants.
#NoVax
Soon to be followed by Operation Landfill.
#nodemocratleftalive
Yes, it was. It got something needed by high risk groups to the market quickly. The following administration's illegal mandating that everyone take it was a disaster. It forced people who's risk profile did not justify taking an experimental vaccine to do so.
Can you point to the spot in the Constitution that justifies such government activity?
I can't.
No. Why it was disappointing that Biden (D) issued vaccine mandates.
Non sequiter much?
Non-un-confused much little?
The following administration’s illegal mandating that everyone take it was a disaster. It forced people who’s risk profile did not justify taking an experimental vaccine to do so. – Illocust
Followed by: Can you point to the spot in the Constitution that justifies such government activity?
I can’t. – you
What part of my comment is a Non sequiter [sic]?
You're making accusations of disappointment, and demanding an explanation for that disappointment.
That does not follow from what was previously said.
It's also a straw man with pink overalls.
It is my fault though. I should know better than to expect honest argumentation.
You wouldn't know honest argumentation if it slipped through the monkey fingers in your head.
How am I disappointed?
Where is the strawman?
What part of my comment was dishonest?
You forgot to ask him about gaslighting.
And the price of lobster rolls.
Were you looking at my cards? That was a move or two away from being played.
I apologize =(
He probably doesn’t even know who’s buried in Grant’s tomb.
It's a good thing you're incapable of embarrassment after a lifetime of homelessness and drug addiction, or else you'd probably implode from your shame at having quite literally no ability to comprehend primary school vocabulary words even after having them explained to you hundreds of times.
Don’t forget his utter cowardice. The pussy has been completely unable to respond to me since he cowered, following his threats of violence towards me. Probably quaking in fear, tucked away in his alley garbage can. In between his drunken visits to the public library, where he views pornography and drunkenly posts here.
He’s made a statement of disappointment in the Biden administration doing something (vaccine mandates) unconstitutional.
Your initial post is unclear what you find to be unconstitutional.
Yeah, no. You can assert it was needed by high-risk groups, but that's not really the question here. Rather, did it benefit the high-risk group? And looking at it before the fact, you can take the time-to-develop a vaccine candidate down to essentially instant, but the question of medium- and long-term safety can't be similarly accelerated.
Depends on what your criteria for success are. It's a pretty bad vaccine with a bad side effect profile, so it didn't do what we really expect from a vaccine. But it was probably still a useful treatment for some people.
I don't remember the last time I've gotten a vaccine for anything (been at least 20 years), and covid was just another variation of the flu which was hyped as a vehicle to take out Trump and more power for globalist governments.
But yes, Warp Speed was a success.
The vaccine wasn't a success, but getting government red tape out of the way was.
Though I suspect some Reason staffers wish we were still in lockdown...
THIS^^
That's what a lot of people don't think about these days when they hear "Operation Warp Speed": that these days it takes an "operation" to get government to quickly start doing less.
Trump got rolled by Fauci and Birks into believing that that warp speed would actually produce a sterilizing vaccine. Of course that didn't happen. But yeah the process worked. Can't really see any reason to repeat it considering it was all a scam.
That’s a very good take and a concise way of summing up the last three years.
Trillions of dollars of debt for no fking reason, setting us up for the current inflation. Total failure. Government is always a failure, so no surprises there.
die from a cold or die from a heart attack ... success!
There was no pandemic. There was a particularly bad flu season that got rebranded, and a new highly contagious cold virus running around that killed almost no one but was tracked as the cause of death for anyone who died while carrying the virus, including motorcycle accidents!
it was a manufactured fake pandemic. and it was an excuse to mint billions of dollars by selling useless vax shots paid for with obscene amounts of government debt.
Biggest scam in my lifetime and it was done in the open,.
Apart from a high initial rate of infection and mortality rate for very old and/or immune compromised individuals it wasn’t that big of a deal. I had it in late 2021 and I was mildly ill for about a week.
Fedgov has absolutely no authority to approve or disapprove of any drug, let's start there.
Secondly, they have no authority to favor certain drug dev efforts with my money.
Thirdly, they have no authority or power to tell me what risks I'm allowed to take for myself when it comes to risking illness or infection.
Operation Warp Speed was a moral and practical disaster
End of story.
^ This guy gets it.
Yet the law is that they must give permission. You think they morally should give less permission?
operation warp speed took place within an entirely morally bankrupt and constitutionally illegitimate framework
Furthermore, operation warp speed was not a "success" it was a scam. The vaccines dont work, they were pre-ready in a pipeline ready to go and part of a giant financial ripoff of the american taxpayer.
A giant fucking failure all around.
My favorite part about operation warp speed is that the vaccines dont work. at all. So funny
And what "Was Trump's Operation Warp Speed"?
Getting the Gov-Guns OUT OF THE F'EN WAY....
The very reason the USA was a success.
The very reason the lack-of-it is going to sink/bankrupt the USA.
The only thing complex about it are the lies and propaganda as most BS is.
Far less harm and death would have resulted from government doing absolutely nothing about COVID.
^ This
word. far less harm and death is not their goal though
Correct.
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Trump did what he said he would do, he cut through the red tape and got the vaccines developed and approved in record time. But remember Trump is not a virologist or immunologist, so if the vaccines were ineffective it was not his fault but those of the people developing the vaccines. They were warned mRNA was not ready for human use by the Doctor that developed the vaccine, but went ahead anyway because they had a political agenda. Only J&J went with a traditional dead vector vaccine (though it did use gene splicing of the covid virus into the adenovirus. but has been much less harmful in the long run)
Still none were effective as we all already knew, viruses mutate to fast for any vaccine to be very effective for long.
Also after Biden took over it became a disaster with his forced mandates. Biden was told not to mandate and experimental vaccine but did anyway, bringing harm to many people, especially young men with high testosterone levels.
So was it a success? Probably about 50/50. The problem is we will learn nothing from the failures or politicizing a pandemic (to defeat Trump), we never do.
Early on in the COVID panic-demic, I went to the CDC website and was amazed at all the data available. I went back every week when it was updated to look at it. I could only assume based on the decisions Federal, State, and Local governments were making at the time, they did not have access to this data.
Jay Inslee certainly didn’t.
Was Trump’s Operation Warp Speed a Success?
How can you even ask that?
- Conformed to Trump’s efforts to deregulate? Check.
- Gave MSbP doms *and* subs something to cling to? Check.
- Gave Fauci, Pfizer, and associated grifters an excuse to cover their grift? Check.
The only way it didn’t work is if you expected something it didn’t promise, like the eradication of COVID, or something completely insane, like making Biden look like a genius for shutting down COVID while making Trump look like an imbecile for cutting red tape and accelerating the research, if those two are even meaningfully different.
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