Remy channels the Beastie Boys to shed light on the Jones Act and fight for his right to par…ticipate in free trade.
Parody of "Sabotage," written and performed by Remy.
LYRICS:
Can't land it
We central planned it
You cannot abate this watergate
So I can't be docking? But he's right here!
But to go right there, he's gotta first go here so
While he sits, our people could die
He's got a foreign flag on his side
Oh my god, it's bizarre
Why can't he just dock?!
It's cabotage!
So listen up 'cause you can't do nothing
He could just dock with the push of a button
But he'd go to jail. I'm out, I'll be gone.
I gotta touch home base! Where's that? Saskatchewan!
Can't stand it
Can't he just hand it
Can't he come straight from another state?
You know, it makes no sense when you're right here
But back in D.C., it's so crystal clear
The status quo's so good that when the winds climb
We have to waive the law every time
I drank too much Dr. Pepper
You can use my bathroom—It's cabotage!
- Producer: Austin Bragg
- Producer: John Carter
- Producer: Meredith Bragg
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I don't agree with the underlying logic or comedic criticism*, but the parody of the Beastie Boys was pretty good.
*Canadian S&L Manager: A hurricane's about to hit Puerto Rico 'eh! We otta send a tenker full of oil to Floorida first to get the 'mergency oil shipment there faster. Even thoo sending the boot direct to the PR *or* the oil through a pipeline *or* over rail *or* via truck would booth comply with the law and be infinitely faster, eh.
When your marketing decisions are based on getting around laws rather than satisfying customers, the law needs to be repealed. Why would any libertarian think otherwise?
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When your marketing decisions are based on getting around laws rather than satisfying customers, the law needs to be repealed.
When you're making poor service/business decisions in the service of a foreign government, you aren't marketing, you're grifting.
The Jones Act, by the Law of Unintended Consequences, is in service of foreign governments! Why else do Alaskans sitting on shit-tons of oil, have to get the supply they use from the Theocracies and Dictatorships of OPEC?
Fight for repeal of The Jones Act, Dummy!
Sanford Dummy Reel
https://youtu.be/moYdbNXBwvk
Trying to live in the world as it is as opposed to how it should be?
It's not satisfying customers. There's no one person on PR that holds a receipt for a tanker of LNG. There is no one in CA with a web form accepting Paypal for 5,500 cu. m of LNG. Until 2021, the Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority was a monopoly owned by the Commonwealth of PR.
Again, Reason's jokes about The Jones Act being enacted against a zombie Franz Ferdinand are funny but to take them as serious policy is just dumb along the same lines of their open borders and free trade arguments. In a world where no free people have ever been captured by a more socialist nation state, free trade can/will/does always win makes sense. In a world where the US government operates a government-military-medical-media-industrial complex, it's just Franz Ferdinand jokes to make people for whom reading is hard clap like seals.
You can oppose both Tge Jones Act and unresponsive utility monopolies at the same time.
*Walks, chews gum, and says "Dummy!" between bubbles.*
Show me an article where Reason has done so.
Because, by your own standards, here’s Heaton failing to walk and chew gum: https://reason.com/video/2021/06/14/lets-scrap-the-jones-act/
And here’s Stossel, also failing to walk and chew gum: https://reason.com/2023/03/01/the-jones-act-is-driving-up-prices-and-making-crises-worse/
And here’s Scott "Don't Say Gay" Shackford, twice and again by your own standards, failing to walk and chew gum:
https://reason.com/2021/05/13/americas-shipping-laws-made-the-gas-crisis-worse/
https://reason.com/2021/01/27/biden-administration-affirms-support-for-protectionist-jones-act-throwing-hawaiians-puerto-ricans-to-the-sharks/
Here’s Eric Boehm failing to walk and chew gum:
https://reason.com/2019/03/08/the-jones-act-is-antiquated-protectionis/
Here’s Daniel Raisbeck (???) effectively failing to walk, landing in gum (Puerto Ricans are fleeing rampant corruption... and the Jones Act... by coming to the mainland... where they’re still subject to the Jones Act):https://reason.com/2021/05/21/puerto-ricans-flocking-to-florida-are-escaping-big-government/
I could go on, but I’m pretty sure that I’ve offered at least some evidence that Reason can’t or doesn’t simultaneously walk (oppose the Jones Act) and chew gum (opposed Puerto Rican corruption). So, the question is, how much evidence do you need before you’ll even begin to consider that they can’t? Or is there no amount sufficient and you’ll defend them despite any/all evidence?
If they oppose utility monopolies and the Jones Act, then they are both walking and chewing gum. I can't speak for the rest, but I know Stossel would support competing utilities and anything else.
Why don't you walk, chew gum, and ask them all?
Why don’t you walk, chew gum, and ask them all?
So, after I walked the walk and did the chewing for you, you reply, "Uh, I think Stossel might be able to.", without citation, and then suggest that *I* need to do more work to show that Reason couldn't find its own ass with two hands on the topic?
I think we got the answer to the "is there no amount sufficient and you’ll defend them despite any/all evidence?" question. I could provide you a mountain of evidence of them not walking and chewing gum and you'd reply with "But Stossel (might)!"
They wouldn't, ergo it isn't a Libertarian.
If a law needs to be suspended from time to time then it's probably a bad law.
Since Google maps occasionally directs people off a road or even over a cliff we should repeal Google maps rather than just expecting humans to make exceptions for no-shit exceptional situations.
By your logic, if Russian
hackersshipping corporations just parked tankers in US docks, waited for a hurricane, and then stoked outrage about the law preventing them from performing cabotage in a manner that, just like open borders, virtually no other country in the world similarly endorses we should just accommodate them and repeal the law.Are you defending the Jones Act?
Are you defending Reason's factual incorrectness and general stupidity on the issue?
Do you support the Jones Act or not?
I do not. Would you like to know why? Well it needlessly increases the price of goods (especially in Hawaii, Alaska and Puerto Rico) in order to protect unions and a domestic shipbuilding industry that no longer exists. It also results in more trucks on the road carrying goods that might be shipped by water if not for that policy.
Not sure if that’s what Reason says or not. But that’s my two cents. Is what I said incorrect?
Edit: IIRC it has been suspended by almost every president in my lifetime, that includes both Obama and Trump, during the aftermath of hurricane-type disasters. If they need to suspend it to move stuff around when it's important, why not suspend it permanently?
Is what I said incorrect?
Since it didn't answer the question I asked, it's not even incorrect.
Setting that aside, prove "It protects something that doesn't exist." is a correct statement.
You probably should explain what "factual incorrectness and general stupidity" you are talking about. As near as I can tell, Reason is not wrong or stupid about this issue at all. But since you haven't provided details, I might be wrong.
So, without evidence from myself and with no actual policy prescriptions being advanced by Reason through this... parody music video... you're sure they're right and I'm not?
Is this how you operate your Zero Trust networks? Convince people to disbelieve the vacuous nonsense they get from AI?
The Jones Act is not cabotage. If you need me to prove that to you, we're well beyond Zero Trust to the point that you're between completely uninformed spam bot and malicious actor.
If your complaint is that you haven’t provided evidence for your position, perhaps you should not be criticizing your disputant.
If your complaint is that Overt's complaint is actually my complaint and that you don't know what the word 'so' means, perhaps you should consider that this all too complicated for you.
Was there a bear in the trunk of the car that drove off the cliff?
Puerto Rico and The Jones Act is the bear in the trunk of all of our cars.
I think of it as more of a boot on the economic tractor-trailer of the US economy. Eh, po-tay-toe/pah-tah-toe.
Apparently not able to edit my post for some odd reason. I was referring only to the Jones Act in my above post.
"We occasionally find people innocent of murder, so laws against murder are probably bad laws." - sarcasmic
Wow. I think we've reached peak stupid.
No such thing as peak stupid.
Casually Mad demonstrates that you're correct about that "peak stupid", on a regular basis!
Someone should tell him the Jones Act was primarily a handout to union workers. That ought to get him to flip on this issue.
Or maybe he's just really into seamen's rights?
Someone should tell him the Jones Act was primarily a handout to union workers.
Union workers and corporate owners. The predecessor required the shareholders to be US citizens. The Jones Act made ownership irrelevant in light of construction and staffing.
It's not my fault you guys are too preoccupied with spewing seamen jokes at each other to understand how repealing a law, any law, at home or abroad generally works.
No. Peak stupid was when Heaton said "The US should repeal the Jones Act so that foreign ships can sale between US ports the way European ships can sale between EU member nations." Everything since has been degenerate and downhill.
I can get more cogent, but it doesn't make a difference. The problem is Reason's underlying argument doesn't get any less stupid.
Hate speech laws? OK: The US should repeal its hate speech laws so that Chinese or Russian foreign nationals can enjoy free speech in the US the way Germans foreign nationals enjoy free speech in France or The Netherlands. Puerto Rico is made and kept poorer than the rest of the US because of federal hate speech laws.
Gun control laws? OK: The US should repeal the GCA so that Chinese or Russian foreign nationals can own and use firearms in the US the way German foreign nationals can own and use firearms in France or Poland. Puerto Rico is made and kept poorer than the rest of the US because of federal gun control laws.
Anti-abortion laws? OK: The US should repeal anti-Abortion laws so that Chinese or Russian foreign nationals can attain abortions in the US the way German foreign nationals can attain an abortion in France. Puerto Rico is made and kept poorer than the rest of the US because of federal anti-abortion laws.
Reading that gave me a headache.
"Reading is hard." does really kinda sum up your side of the argument.
Well maybe if you wouldn't use extreme, inapplicable hypotheticals, your cogent arguments might be reviewed more seriously.
Reason's assertive argument *is* inapplicable hypotheticals.
Hypothetically, Puerto Rico would be a tiny but rich and prosperous island like... uh... England(?)... Cyprus(?)... (neither of which routinely get flattened by hurricanes) if not for The Jones Act. Hypothetically, maritime shipping between US cities would become sustainably competitive against highway, air, rail, and pipeline freight if we repeal The Jones Act.
Further, similar hypotheticals like 'the coal industry would come back if we repealed anti-coal regulations' earned a full-throated "Learn to code." in response from Reason.
None of what you said is being argued by Reason.
I have noticed that when you start slipping into your obfuscatory, half explained metaphors it is generally because you are not exactly clear on what you are trying to prove.
I’m not trying to obfuscate anything. Quite the opposite. As indicated above The Jones Act is not all of cabotage. In the EU, a truck driving between Portugal and Poland is engaging in cabotage. In the US, a truck driving from California to Maine is not. This is plain, clear fact. So, when someone says, like Heaton and others at Reason have done repeatedly, “We should repeal the Jones Act so that ships coming to the US can sail as freely between ports as they can in the EU.” they’re obfuscating the fact that the EU’s cabotage laws are differently, and quite arguably more, onerous than the US’s… and not necessarily in the advancement of any given or total liberty.
So, let’s start at the top and be as clear as possible: when we say “repeal the Jones Act” and “cabotage” are we talking about just repealing the Jones Act, leaving previously even more archaic and onerous cabotage laws in place, or repealing all cabotage law going back to 1789, including NAFTA/USMCA and any other trade or treaties than may impose on international shipping by land, sea, or air?
Because, in habitual Reason fashion, I get the impression that this is just, yet another “Borders are just a figment of imagination” narrative that turns to abjectly anti-libertarian, "back the mostly peaceful arsonist/child molesters" bullshit the moment Kyle Rittenhouse legally sets foot in Kenosha County.
Good grief. I thought you were mildly statist before, but just boringly so; now you have slipped the earthly bonds and soared to new levels of idiocy and hypocrisy.
I don't think a single one of your comments in this post have made any sense to anybody, not even your fellow statists. Just rambling, and lots of it, with neither rhyme nor reason.
Whatever you're smoking or imbibing, I want nothing to do with it, and you shouldn't either. I don't think I can remember any other commenter going off the rails so deeply so fast. Even Matt Welch's recent mad post made more sense.
Aw, are my words, still too big for you two years later? Here, I'll use simpler words:
*Truck* going from California to Maine? No cabotage. *Truck* going from Portugal to Poland? Cabotage. Cost of living in Hawaii lower than New York City. Both higher than Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico not poor because Jones Act. Hawaii not poor because Jones Act. Puerto Rico poor because it hurricane flattened shit hole run by State-owned corporations. Jones Act like talisman Reason wear to mock old white man, impress brown man.
Especially if there doesn't seem to be any dire effects from said suspension.
We have at least experienced some of this with the aftermath of the pandemic lockdowns - some (mostly red) states are permanently suspending prohibitions on things like to-go and drive-thru liquor, telemedicine, etc. It's not perfect, but it's a silver lining.
Well done on the musicality here. Very well done.
Maybe these are what drove casual mad today. Two links to this article! I don't know if that's ever happened before with a Remy parody.
I haven't read either one yet.
https://www.cato.org/blog/reasontv-lampoons-jones-act
https://gcaptain.com/beastie-boys-jones-act-parody-cabotage/
gCaptain used to be a pretty straightforward merchant marine website, then went half-woke during the COVID lockdowns, and has always loved the Jones Act, although sometimes pretending to be objective.
Casual was mad long before The Jones Act. I won't even get him started with conversation topics we've had.
has always loved the Jones Act
Me not have read his work. Me not love Jones Act. Me loathe Reason "Step 1. Repeal Jones Act. Step 2. ??? Step 3. Libertopia!!!" narrative. Even if Jones Act repeal, Jones Act not only law regulating maritime cabotage in US. This matters more important when international trade matters more. You want liberty, not worse Jones Act, right? Should have same questions.
Yeah, you still lost your marbles over this. Even your two-year old comment wasn't as devoid of sanity.
But look on the bright side -- at least you've found the button which sends you over the edge. Now you only have to purge it from your system.
So my original "madness" contained some sanity and you expect Reason repeatedly pressing the same button in the same manner to produce a different result?
Your aspersions of insanity mean nothing, I've what seen Reason cheers as sane.
Remey is a national treasure.
Nerdyist one yet!
Gold.