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Why Americans Fear the COVID-19 Vaccine

Government failure eroded public trust. Fact-based persuasion and brutal honesty about scientific uncertainty are the only way to win it back.

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Six months into America's COVID-19 pandemic, cases are surging, small businesses are faltering, playgrounds are empty, and unemployment is at 11 percent. Our best hope for ending this nightmare is a vaccine, and there are more than 165 in development.

But when a vaccine becomes available, how many Americans will refuse it?

Vaccines are the greatest health care advance of our time, preventing an estimated 4.5 billion infections since their advent. So what explains the reluctance of so many Americans to vaccinate? 

It's a combination of bad science, the government's long history of misleading the public, and the collapse of confidence in public health authorities because of their catastrophic failures in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. 

But if the government responds by attempting to force Americans to take a COVID-19 vaccine, it will only help the conspiracy theorists. Public health officials can begin to undo the damage of the past six months by rejecting authoritarian and paternalistic approaches in favor of careful persuasion and brutal honesty about the limits of their own knowledge.

Though most Americans surveyed say they'll probably take the vaccine, there's a real possibility that a sizable bloc of refusers could allow this novel coronavirus to continue spreading, based on what's happened with measles, cases of which surged to record levels in America in 2019 largely due to pockets of vaccine refusal, which tends to happen in clusters, according to researcher Tara C. Smith.

"When you have some of these groups of individuals where vaccination rates are low, it just takes one person with measles to get in there and spread it through a community," Smith says. 

Vaccine skeptics often focus on the claim that childhood vaccines cause autism, an idea endorsed by Donald Trump during a 2015 presidential debate.

This claim famously was amplified by a British researcher named Andrew Wakefield, whose 1998 paper linking vaccines and autism was later retracted. The U.K. General Medical Council found Wakefield guilty of multiple ethics violations for lying about his test subjects and failing to disclose a financial link to an anti-vaccine lawsuit.

But concern about vaccines is rising among parents, along with objections to the use of mercury preservatives, which haven't been proven to do harm and haven't been present in childhood vaccines for nearly 20 years. 

An ecosystem of anti-vaccine information has emerged and, according to the American Journal of Public Health, bots and paid Russian trolls participate in online vaccine debates far more than the average social media user. The trolls don't always join the anti-vaccine side of the debate but aim to elevate the visibility to "create false equivalency, eroding public consensus on vaccination," according to the researchers.

"You have some people that really don't know what to think," Smith says. "And they're really just trying to figure out, you know, what is going on? What do I believe? What do I trust? Maybe haven't cemented their ideas about vaccination yet…Those people in the middle are the ones that I try to reach."

But U.S. public health authorities have sometimes misled the public about vaccines and other public health interventions, which has made the job of convincing skeptics more difficult. 

The Tuskegee experiment sowed deep distrust of the government and public health, particularly in black American communities.

In 1932, government doctors recruited mostly poor black sharecroppers at the Tuskegee Institute for a study of the impact of syphilis.  The participants, the majority of whom had the disease, were told that they were getting an experimental medicine when in fact they were all given a placebo. Scientists running the study were actually interested in the progression of the illness when left untreated. 

The experiment continued until well after penicillin became available in 1947, and many participants died. 

Another incident that damaged trust in public health occurred in 1976, when a novel virus called the swine flu broke out at a U.S. Army base. Scientists believed that it bore a genetic similarity to the 1918 flu that had killed more than 100 million people worldwide. President Gerald Ford authorized $135 million to develop and deploy a vaccine, and the government injected 25 percent of Americans in a 10-month period. But the global pandemic never came. The disease died out. And the rushed version of the vaccine likely resulted in some injuries, though probably not as many as reported by the media at the time.

Smith says more humility is called for in public health communication.

"It's hard, but I think we have to emphasize that uncertainty. And I think that may have been one thing missing with the [protective face] masks, and I was probably guilty of it myself, too," says Smith.

One reason public health officials may face considerable resistance to a nationwide vaccination program is because of their handling of COVID-19. 

After reversing their position on face masks, authorities claimed their earlier message was motivated by a desire to preserve protective gear for medical workers without ever acknowledging that they were wrong to say that masks wouldn't slow the spread of the virus.

Public health authorities also issued contradictory messages on the safety of large gatherings following the Black Lives Matters protests.

The World Health Organization (WHO) failed to properly investigate the original outbreak in China, perhaps leaving the world less prepared than it should've been for the emerging pandemic; the Trump administration repeatedly played down the threat of the virus, and the CDC botched the early rollout of testing. 

If there is any hope of winning back public trust in a vaccination program, which, unlike the 1973 swine flu vaccine, will have been subject to extensive safety testing, public health authorities should acknowledge their past mistakes.

"Right now, in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks," the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci told 60 Minutes on March 8, 2020. "Wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better, but it's not providing the perfect protection people think that it is. And often, there are unintended consequences: People keep fiddling with the mask, and they keep touching their face[s]."

The CDC changed its mask guidance on April 3, 2020, to recommend wearing surgical or cloth masks in public settings, and businesses and local governments began mandating masks. When asked before Congress on June 30, 2020, whether he regretted his earlier statements about masks, Fauci failed to acknowledge that he and other public health officials had called masks ineffective and instead focused exclusively on the supply shortage health workers faced at the time.

"I don't regret [not advising mask use] because, let me explain to you what happened: At that time [when public health officials didn't advise wearing masks], there was a paucity of equipment that our health care providers needed," Fauci said.

If warning against face masks was a so-called "noble lie" to preserve supplies for health care workers, public health officials should own up to that rationale, admit that their understanding of the transmissibility of virus was lacking, and stop condescending to the public. 

And if a vaccine becomes available, doctors should acknowledge that vaccines can carry some risk, especially a new vaccine brought to market with record speed, but that it's a risk often worth taking because there are no perfect solutions, only trade-offs. 

The lesson of the last six months is that authoritarian mandates and noble lies tend to backfire.

Fact-based persuasion, which is the basis of good science, is our best hope for stopping COVID-19 and restoring the personal freedom that's been eroded by the governmental and societal response to it. 

Written by Zach Weissmueller. Motion graphics by Lex Villena.

Music credits: "Two Dogs" by Lex Villena, "The Hearse Song" by Rusty Cage and Lex Villena, "Interception" by Kai Engel licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution License.

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  2. >>Our best hope for ending this nightmare is a vaccine … it’s a risk often worth taking because there are no perfect solutions, only trade-offs.

    Help us Fauci-Wan. You’re our only trade-off.

    1. it’s a risk often worth taking because there are no perfect solutions, only trade-offs.
      And we will weigh those trade-offs for you.

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      2. and cut off your water if you don’t like our mandated trade-offs.

    2. Wow, people really think a vaccine will end this, huh?

      1. When it ends this, another will start.

        Pols haven’t forgotten how much power they’ve been allowed to wield so far by the public, so long as it has a pretty little ‘public health’ label attached.

        To the OP, I take vaccines…when the disease to be vaccinated against is much more serious than the potential side effects of the vaccine. And for a rushed vaccine on a disease that kills something like literally one in a thousand in my age cohort or younger, I don’t think the tradeoff makes sense. Add to it that many, if not most people who acquire the disease have few or no symptoms, and the tradeoff makes less sense.

        1. Pretty much how I feel about any COVID vaccine, but on top of that, there’s the history of the flu vaccine. I don’t take it. AIUI, it changes every year, meaning it never gets the kind of historical record that measles or tetanus get. Reports I have seen some years make those years out as particularly ineffective. And I have never gotten colds very often, even when there were school kids running in and out. I figure if nothing else, flu and COVID are close enough that if my immune system ain’t broke, I see no point in fixing it, especially on the government’s say-so.

          1. I get flu vaccines because I trust them on safety. For many years now, there’s been a routine to making them, and since the swine flu vaccine there hasn’t been a similar problem with them. Some years they get the epidemic strain(s) right, and often the vaccines are very effective. However, I still don’t get vaccinated until it’s been out for a month — and neither does my doctor; that’s always still early in flu season, and has gotten earlier in recent times with improvements in the speed of the production routine.

            I would not trust a Covid-19 vaccine brought out at “warp speed” for safety. These are novel vaccines for a novel virus whose pathogenesis in the serious cases relates to inflammation, not to virus spread within the body. I’d want more than the customary degree of assurance the vaccine wouldn’t be prone to causing the very problems that the virus does. After a year of post-market surveillance I might be interested, but by then nobody’s going to care about the virus anyway.

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        2. I just generally distrust people who have been often lying over the past 6 months

      2. 5000 years of cold virus destruction by human vaccines is the standard oh wait …

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      3. As a medical doctor, taking care of corona positive patients among the other patients, I would love to get a vaccine.

        I’m wearing my mask in the hospital and not while I’m walking the dog.

    3. Why can’t other solutions even be entertained? Maybe that is the best who knows but that’s statement never seems to discuss why the other options aren’t the best. I’d like to see some of these mentioned with logical reasons for dismissal.

      1. Well, what other solutions? Quarantine has been shown to be essentially impossible. Asymptomatic transmission isn’t a game-changer. It’s a game-breaker.

        Our options seem to be vaccine or just letting everyone get it. It seems like we’re going to hit the second before the first option is viable.

        1. Other solutions? realizing that your risk isn’t that bad and go back to life as normal, not new normal.

        2. catch a cold like all the other times?

        3. Maybe a better small-molecule drug, or a biological immune modulator.

          1. Biological immune modulator? What do you think a vaccine is?

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  3. Bruh, fuck Australia.
    https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1290460312123199489

    Police in Australia are going door to door making sure people are home. Failure to be present at the time results in massive fine, and who knows what else. A literal police state. Downright terrifying abuse of human rights.

    1. The fact there’s more than one commentator saying “please sir may I have another” is fucking horrifying.

      1. They love them some radar speed cameras, weapons restrictions, and kissing as much Aborigine ass as they can find. ‘But it’s saferrrrrrrr!!!! Don’t you care!!!??’

        OTOH, they drink to ridiculous extent, get white trash stupid when they do, and often become ‘likes to fight’ guy. Maybe they were just cutting loose in the States?

      2. For a nation descended from criminals you’d think they’d be a little wary about the police showing up unannounced.

        1. What’s the difference between that and their ancestors CO putting them to bed every night?

    2. Coming soon to the leftist USSA near you

  4. I mean it the science behind the lockdown is based on a 14 year old’s science fair project but yeah the people suggesting they are rushing a vaccine are the anti-science one’s. Maybe we should start realizing gov. policy is closer to Lysenkoism and nonsense than anything based in actual science.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/politics/social-distancing-coronavirus.html

    How that idea — born out of a request by President George W. Bush to ensure the nation was better prepared for the next contagious disease outbreak — became the heart of the national playbook for responding to a pandemic is one of the untold stories of the coronavirus crisis.

    It required the key proponents — Dr. Mecher, a Department of Veterans Affairs physician, and Dr. Hatchett, an oncologist turned White House adviser — to overcome intense initial opposition.

    It brought their work together with that of a Defense Department team assigned to a similar task.

    And it had some unexpected detours, including a deep dive into the history of the 1918 Spanish flu and an important discovery kicked off by a high school research project pursued by the daughter of a scientist at the Sandia National Laboratories.

    The concept of social distancing is now intimately familiar to almost everyone. But as it first made its way through the federal bureaucracy in 2006 and 2007, it was viewed as impractical, unnecessary and politically infeasible.

      1. Really good article – albeit a little impassioned. I dislike that they didn’t have footnotes – the sources appear to be in the text – which is a pain. The sites media bias fact check rating is high / right center bias leaning libertarian – so that’s decent.

        The view takes me back a few steps to how I felt before hearing the same shit over and over. Kind of reset my outrage at the sheer stupidity of this lockdown.

        Sadly, I guess I fell prey to the propaganda and acquiesced somewhat to our current situation, of course rebelliously. But this article reminds you that we shouldn’t accept any of this shit as doing any good. Social distancing, schools closing, airports closing – all of it was cited as having no effect on a pandemic.

        I need to check their sources.

      2. Tucker has another good one from the other day looking at relationships (or lack thereof) between lockdowns and death rates.

    1. But it turned out that it was only impractical and unnecessary.

    2. This is pad for the cource. We relied on a 12 year Olds science project for the straw ban

    3. Policy was being driven by haphazard modeling from part-time research assistants pulling an all-nighter over the weekend…

      https://www.sph.umn.edu/news/modeling-covid-19-for-minnesota/

      Although clouds were gathering on the horizon, it felt like the pandemic storm hit the U.S. over a weekend. The Minnesota modeling process had to be designed, tested, and up and running in less than a week. People working on its continued accuracy have put their pre-pandemic lives on hold.

      Before Friday, March 20, Marina Kirkeide, who graduated from the University of Minnesota College of Science and Engineering in 2019, was a School of Public Health part-time research assistant working on HPV transmission for Kulasingam. On a gap year before starting Medical School at the University in fall 2020, Kirkeide also had a second job as a lab tech at St. Paul’s Regions Hospital. That Friday, Kulasingam called her and two other research assistants and asked if anyone was available to “work through the day and night” to get a COVID-19 model to Governor Walz the following Monday. They all jumped at the chance.

      “I don’t think a lot of researchers get to work on something over the weekend and have public figures talk about it and make decisions based on it three days later,” says Kirkeide, who had to leave her hospital job to focus solely on modeling. She feels the responsibility of such a big project, too. “[In this situation] you don’t have the time to validate as much as you normally would. You want to get it right the first time. And your work has to be really, really quick.”

  5. It’s the RFID trackers in the vaccine people are afraid of.

  6. This theory is completely wrong. More science is not going to solve anything. People don’t make up their minds based on facts, they make up their minds based on feelings. The stronger you make people feel about these things, the less that facts will matter.

    Is the science guiding us on masks? Of course not. People are choosing to wear or not wear masks based on the political divide. Every time a person gets sick, or opines on the lockdown, the Press decides to comment on whether they were wearing masks.

    If you are in the press and you want people to take the vaccine, the last thing you should do is push the narrative that “Good people” will take the vaccine. Because 90% of the public feels that the Media are lying to them about what good people ought to do.

    20 years ago, vaccines weren’t even a political subject. People largely got them. But then it became yet another cultural battle, and no science will change anything. This is what naturally happens when the government starts making mandates- the science will naturally be politicized.

    1. In fairness to both sides of the mask debate there really isn’t that much definitive science to prove one way or another on masks. I just really hate the self righteousness of the people pushing it the hardest and the gov mandates.

      1. And the ‘science’ agrees with you – – – –
        From the CDC on ‘real’ flu:
        Background; Masks are not usually recommended in non-healthcare settings; however, this guidance provides other strategies for limiting the spread of influenza viruses in the community.
        Unvaccinated Asymptomatic Persons, Including Those at High Risk for Influenza Complications
        No recommendation can be made at this time for mask use in the community by asymptomatic persons, including those at high risk for complications, to prevent exposure to influenza viruses.

        It is ONLY for the Communist Chinese Virus that a “cloth face covering” is a magic talisman.

      2. I argued with a friend over masks. He was getting all grumpy and authoritarian, throwing insults at people (in general, not specific persons) who refuse to wear a mask. I said it’s stupid to harangue people like that; were you haranguing the mask wearers previously when government said not to wear them? It’s not that government intentionally lies just to fuck with you, but they are so incompetent. They have said don’t wear mask and do wear masks: which one do you believe, and why?

        The government guidance on coffee, chocolate, eggs, butter, milk, bacon, beef, and all sorts of other foods has changed over time, sometimes back and forth several times. Saccharine was declared a cancer risk for a long time after it was known to be harmless. The food pyramid has changed several times.

        Why would anyone rely on government guidance for anything? Why harangue people for not relying on current government guidance when the guidance was the opposite just a couple of months ago?

        1. It’s easy to understand why people would rely on their guidance: because what are they, using our money, paying for, if it’s not to get the best advice? Seriously, they have a shitload of bucks available to them, and no motivation to steer their loyal subjects wrong, so how can you blame the average person in the world for taking the advice given on health matters by the richest government in the world?

          Can you imagine the enormity of the scandal if it came out that experts had been giving bad health advice as paid consultants or employees of government so they could then make a bigger bundle selling good advice or product to direct purchasers?

          1. Scientists and politicians will not avoid causing panic, because panic is how they make money and get power. These are some quote from alarmists regarding climate change, but I suspect we can easily substitute COVID for climate change and find takers…

            Monika Kopacz, atmospheric scientist: “It is no secret that a lot of climate-change research is subject to opinion, that climate models sometimes disagree even on the signs of the future changes (e.g. drier vs. wetter future climate). The problem is, only sensational exaggeration makes the kind of story that will get politicians’ — and readers’ — attention. So, yes, climate scientists might exaggerate, but in today’s world, this is the only way to assure any political action and thus more federal financing to reduce the scientific uncertainty.”

            Former U.S. Senator Timothy Wirth (D-CO), then representing the Clinton-Gore administration as U.S undersecretary of state for global issues, addressing the same Rio Climate Summit audience, agreed: “We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.”

            Christine Stewart, former Canadian Environment Minister: “No matter if the science is all phoney, there are collateral environmental benefits…. climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

            Researcher Robert Phalen’s 2010 testimony to the California Air Resources Board: “It benefits us personally to have the public be afraid, even if these risks are trivial.”

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      3. My biggest problem with masks is the insanity of it. The psychological and social damage is going to be huge. We’re training people to be paranoid, irrational germophobes, frightened of their friends and neighbors. This is not a normal or healthy way to behave in the face of an infectious disease of low to moderate severity.

        1. I see it every time I go to my local Costco. The eyes widening with fear above the mask pulled to the bridge of the nose because I inadvertently strayed within the six-foot social distancing radius. The look of hostility I received last Saturday from a woman exiting her vehicle when I took my mask off in the parking lot as I approached my car. The lady who insists on walking in the street because my attempt to stand aside to let her pass on the sidewalk isn’t creating enough social distance. I’m in Michigan so the psy-op is working as planned here.

          The damage and conditioned responses will not be undone with a flip of the switch. Even after the “all clear” alarm is sounded by Governor Whitmer, I am confident that a year later there will still be those who insist on wearing masks and gloves and reacting in fear every time someone ventures too close.

          1. You are awfully optimistic if you think there will be a time when Whitmer or any other left-wing dictator will give an “all clear” signal. They want the public to be afraid because they believe in big government, are power hungry, and know this is good for their approval ratings.

        2. I agree that we are training people to be paranoid. That is why I’m not sending my kids to school. The school probably thinks I’m afraid of the virus, but I’m not. My kids would have to wear a mask all day, even at outside recess, and I am suppose to wear a mask while I stay in the car while dropping off and picking up my kids. This is teaching my kids to be paranoid. The school correctly states that parents are the primary teachers (it’s a private school) and I do not want to teach my kids to be paranoid.

        3. “The psychological and social damage is going to be huge. We’re training people to be paranoid, irrational germophobes, frightened of their friends and neighbors.”

          Yeah, it’s almost as if our venerable institutions are pursuing a strategically expedient course for permanently activating swarms of hive-minded simps to sacrifice their basic human freedoms and dignity (and more importantly, sacrifice the freedoms and dignity of everybody else) in the name of pursuing a sterile and unattainable illusion of safety and security.

          Thank goodness they’re really just looking out for what’s in the best interest of all of us, like a good parent or benevolent deity.

        4. I’m sure that if Trump had ordered everyone to wear masks when the lockdowns began in March, the media and medical establishment would have repeated what was being said back then: They are not effective in stopping the spread of the virus. The mask hysteria is based on politics, not science. And I am not a Trump supporter.

      4. when there’s no definitive science to prove a hypothesis, you assume the hypothesis is unproven.

  7. Why Americans Fear the COVID-19 Vaccine

    Because it’s being rushed and is grotesquely politicized?

    Could that be it?

    1. You may be in to something.

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  9. You’re always going to get stupid fucking assholes on the internet spreading misinformation. The problem is that not only are the trolls foreign but part of our larger media groups. Education helps tune out the idiots but confirmation bias is rampant. I consider anti vax bullshit on the same level as promoting socialism and open borders. It is clear keeping tabs on border crossers would have prevented the spread of Covid-19 but the Koch reason libs cannot accept that. The media tries gaslighting us to accept more government control when we know that less government is better.

    1. I don’t think anything would prevented the spread of Covid-19. The reason set was annoying by not being far more vociferously antilock-down. Small business’s got absolutely squashed by this bullshit and it’s amounted in one of the largest wealth transfers in world history but they were all tote’s well this is fine in the beginning.

  10. “Six months into America’s COVID-19 pandemic, cases are surging, small businesses are faltering, playgrounds are empty, and unemployment is at 11 percent.”

    All true, of course, but this ignores the most important economic indicator used in Koch / Reason analysis: our benefactor Charles Koch is down over $8 billion this year.

    1. Goddamn it you say that every day you fucking piece of repeatin shit.

  11. brutal honesty about scientific uncertainty are the only way to win it back.

    The Science is Settled.

  12. “Six months into America’s COVID-19 pandemic, cases are surging, small businesses are faltering, playgrounds are empty, and unemployment is at 11 percent.”

    Please not that only the first of those issues is caused by the virus. ALL the rest are caused by the governments inept responses.

  13. Why Americans Fear the COVID-19 Vaccine

    They’re afraid of the cans!” – “Reason” (*drink*) Magazine

    1. Reason would go searching for their car keys under a lamp post stone sober.

  14. I’m not scared of any vaccine, but I’m not going to rush out and get it as soon as it’s available either. Given the actual risk the virus poses to me, I’ll take my chances with the virus until the vaccine is shown to be safe and effective. And I doubt it will ever be particularly effective, given the track record of attempted coronavirus vaccines (which have never succeeded) and flu vaccines (which are only marginally effective).

    1. Which means we get to do this shit indefinitely. I say fuck it – appease the asshats and take it along with whatever life afflicting side affects it comes with.

      I’m speaking for you guys of course. I’ve already had Covid and I’m immune – naturally my cavalier concern for your health is warranted.

      1. I may have had a mild case. Not getting tested.

        If I’m convinced that taking the vaccine will actually mean no more masks and quarrantine BS, then I’d probably go for it. But I’m not sure that’s very likely.

      2. I’m speaking for you guys of course. I’ve already had Covid and I’m immune – naturally my cavalier concern for your health is warranted.

        Are you sure you’re immune? Are you sure you’ll stay that way? We’re not talking a DNA virus here like Chicken Pox. We’re talking an RNA virus. Last I checked, no one was certain you could only get it once.

        1. No, it’s likely not total lifetime immunity. And a vaccine most likely won’t provide that either. Which is all the more reason not to work too hard to limit spread if it’s not causing a real disaster (which it doesn’t appear to be doing).

        2. I had it also. T cell mediated immunity confers T cell memory. It means that the next encounter with any Covid gets a better response. Yes that is actually how immunity works. We make long term immunity to very few viral illnesses and not to any respiratory viruses at all. T cells again as opposed to humoral antibody production. This has apparently become lost information in this debacle. Or perhaps as I keep saying, most never understood it in the first place.

          1. I understand very well that there will be a better response for some viruses (I’m not worried about getting Chicken Pox again). But I also understand that there are some in which T cell memory doesn’t work. Influenza and the Common Cold (also a Corona Virus family member) are two of them. The jury is still out on if you can get COVID-19 twice.

            https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/07/16/covid-19-can-you-get-infected-twice-herd-immunity/5429012002/

      3. I had h1n1 a decade ago.
        Pretty sure I’m invincible now.
        Also, good chance I had this thing back in January and got better after 2 days.
        Working in the moving industry for many years has exposed me to all kinds of viruses and germs.
        Pretty sure my immune system is better for it

  15. Lets see… concerns about the vaccine….

    Pick your rational:
    1) They’re experimenting on us (Tuskegee)
    1b) It’s unsafe, you might die from it
    2) It doesn’t work, it’s fake, they’re just trying to allay your fears
    3) It contains a drug to make you sterile (see polio vaccine conspiracy theories)
    4) It might have side effects, lets see someone else be the guinea pig first

    I can see a number of valid concerns for not going first (not all those above are valid). The early bird may get the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese.

    1. Oh yes, I forgot to include Thalidomide as one of the references.

  16. The FDA won’t be able to approve it in time, and if they do, why does it take so long to approve other drugs?

  17. Brutal honesty is that vaccine manufacturers are immune from all liability.
    And this one in particular is experimental.
    Don’t allow politics and “scientism” to cloud your judgment. This virus is likely T cell mediated in most. No vaccine required. I have a lot more to say about the science of the immune system but I am tired of beating this horse to death. Vaccine for Covid is like masking: it’s all a farce for what is a cold for the vast majority.
    -RN

  18. If you’re dumb enough to inject this vaccine into your body then I fully support it. The world is better off without you. I’m so sick of stupid afraid people and gullible bootlickers that I’ll just hold my breath and watch the shitshow with a whisky in my hand and a tip of the hat. In the immortal words of Tupac, fuck all ya’ll.

  19. I try not to fear things that likely do not exist and probably won’t any time soon; like say a COVID vaccine for example.

  20. Maybe some of us distrust a vaccine because we’re expected to trust it despite the haste in which it’s being forced on us.

  21. I do not fear it. Not taking it, period.

    1. Anyone remember the swine flu vaccine.

  22. Why Americans Fear the COVID-19 Vaccine

    Yeah, those silly Americans! Why would anybody fear a novel vaccine based on technology never used before, whose development has been rushed through, that has received minimal safety testing, and for which we have no long term data whatsoever! I mean, much better than have the government forcibly inject that crap into you than take your chances with a virus that is less of a risk than the flu, right?

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  24. As I am a retired surgeon, I have carefully watched the data on various treatments, including (alleged) prophylaxis methods against Covid-19. Much of the data comes from (what they allow to get through) on YouTube. There is censorship, no doubt.

    It’s not just hydroxychloroquine, but there are other ways to reduce the risk that you will die from this disease. There is no iron-clad data, but it is worth doing, since the risks of this regimen are not great and could be helpful to prevent other diseases. Since I am 77, I am in a high risk group.

    1. Vit-D3 1,000 IU
    2. Magnesium 70 mgs/day
    3. Zinc lozenges each 11 mgs, one twice/day
    4. Quercetin 500 mgs once/day
    5. Adult multivitamin
    6. Melatonin 5 mgs at night

    If you are an adult woman, you can add Calcium to this.

    That is what I do. So far, I feel great. I try to get sun outside, due to fact that I live in the desert, which I adore.

    As far as the vaccine is concerned, I will probably take it, but will wait a month or so prior to getting it.

    Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
    Retired surgeon

  25. a vaccination program, which, unlike the 1973 swine flu vaccine, will have been subject to extensive safety testing

    That is not the current plan.

  26. Actually I have been checking around to see if I could volunteer for one of the trials. Moderna is running one around here but I missed the start date.

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  31. “If warning against face masks was a so-called “noble lie” to preserve supplies for health care workers, ”

    Then you would have to believe that there was a shortage of T-shirts and bandannas back then too, and that at any moment, we could expect a doctor to come knocking on the door, asking for our old T-shirts and bandannas to make into masks for themselves. Otherwise, what would my own T-shirt or bandanna (the things we were told to use to make a mask when they reversed themselves and said masks work)
    have to do with the supplies of stuff for health care workers?

    You can’t say it’s because Fauci and co. didn’t think of the possibility of makeshift masks back then. The premise of using improvised face coverings during a pandemic was talked about and studied quite often in medical science, and there were many studies on the topic published long before COVID appeared. Fauci has been in the business he’s in for more than 30 years, so he was very much aware of the concept of using improvised cloth coverings when he told us not to use them.

    It is quite evident, given the circumstances, which story from Fauci about masks was the true one. The first story matched what was said by the surgeon general, the CDC, the WHO, the Australian health service, and the medical community as a whole at that time. It was based on decades of experience with, and study of, respiratory viruses, including other coronaviruses, like some colds, SARS, and MERS.

    The second story from Fauci requires you to believe that he lied about masks not working, but how would that explain why all of the other health orgs out there said the same thing, and they did so before Fauci ever uttered the alleged noble lie?

    The second story requires you to forget that cloth face coverings were and are still recommended, and the whole idea of trying to preserve masks for health care workers utterly falls apart when you consider that.

    The second story requires you to believe that a man whose job it is to control the spread of disease would knowingly poison the well against mask wearing because of a shortage, knowing full well that shortages end. Why would you want to be on record as saying masks don’t work when the shortage ended and masks were again available as a potential limit to the spread of the disease?

    The idea that Fauci told the truth when he said “I lied before” doesn’t even make a little bit of sense. The idea he told the truth at first, when he said that masks worn by the general public do not work to stop the spread of respiratory viruses, makes plenty of sense, and remains uncontradicted to this day, despite claims to the contrary.

    The NY Post had an interesting piece yesterday. The CDC and Fauci have long claimed that COVID does not spread by aerosol, in contrast with all of the other respiratory diseases we know. It was a very questionable, very much unsupported claim from the start, but now evidence has come in that demonstrates that COVID is, in fact, just like all the other respiratory viruses, and that it spreads by airborne/aerosol particles.

    The CDC really does not want to admit that, and it’s doing all it can to put its fingers in its ears and say, “Mmm, mmm, mmm, I can’t hear you, I can’t hear you.” Many of the studies that purport to show that masks prevent COVID are based on studies that test the ability of masks to stop droplets, and the 6 foot rule is based on the premise of droplets falling to the ground within that distance.

    When people who dare to question the CDC or the mask orders are being painted with the “anti-science” brush, why is CDC so reluctant to adopt the actual science on the virus and its ability to spread like all the other respiratory viruses?

    It turns out that there is substantial fear that health care workers will not come to work if they hear the word “airborne.” No one wants to let the cat out of the bag, so to speak, and let these health care workers know that the surgical masks they and their coworkers (and patients) use are completely ineffective, which they are when it comes to aerosol viruses.

    As long as hospital administrators, public health officials, etc., can maintain the idea that surgical masks work, they can keep getting the people they employ to come do their jobs. Seeing the whole populace covered in the same masks they wear, by edict of government, certainly tends to support that idea.

    If the CDC ever admitted there was aerosol transmission going on, then they would have to explain how masks and distancing based on droplets were supposed to work. They would have to admit the masks and 6 foot thing were completely worthless, and they think that would scare a whole lot of health care people away, and we need them.

    If there is a “noble” lie, it’s the one that says that masks DO work, which is being pushed on us all so that we can be part of the effort to manipulate health care workers into coming to work without N95s and other protective gear that might actually stand a chance of working, but which is still in short supply even now. The risks that masks cause us are substantial, but it’s all in service of the greater goal, so get out there and mask up… you’ve got some health care professionals to manipulate!

    1. a lot of doctors and nurses caught COVID-19, despite wearing masks and washing their hands better than any of us ever will. It was airborne all along.

  32. Facts and honesty?

    It usually takes 4 years to bring a new vaccine to market. And you want me to take one that’s been tested for a few months? No thanks.

    And there’s never been a successful coronavirus vaccine, so we’re unlikely to get one for SARS-CoV-2 anyway.

  33. The audio on this video is so bad; it totally makes the narrator sound like 2002 voicemail

  34. It’s amazing that you can pen an article on a Covid vaccine and not once mention hydroxychloroquine and the very credible accusations that it and other cheap generic treatments are being killed by propaganda because Pharma wants a payday for patented treatment and/or vaccine.

    Nor did you mention Bill Gates and his creepy engagement in vaccine promotion and health care where he has been pushing propaganda for goodness knows what reasons.

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