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Will Libertarian Gary Johnson Break 5 Percent? Nick Gillespie, Matt Welch Talk Election Day

How the Clinton/Trump race to the bottom prove the thesis of The Declaration of Independents: How Libertarian Politics Can Fix What's Wrong With America.

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The newest Reason podcast features Nick Gillespie talking with Reason Editor at Large Matt Welch about the last days of the Gary Johnson campaign, the surprising popularity in Utah of Evan McMullin, the perfidy of Bill Weld, and how the 2016 election proves the central thesis of Gillespie and Welch's tome, The Declaration of Indepedendents: How Libertarian Politics Can Fix What's Wrong with America, which argued that the same forces of personalization and proliferating choice would eventually undermine popular support for the nation's political duopoly.

Gillespie and Welch make their final bets on who wins the big prize and wager whether the Libertarian ticket punches through the 5 percent barrier.

It's a rollicking, raucous conversation. Listen below right now now and scroll down to subscribe at iTunes and elsewhere.

Produced by Ian Keyser.

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Photo of Gillespie and Welch by Judd Weiss.