Do Republicans Want To Control Elections?
Plus: assessing Trump’s first year, the dysfunction of Washington, D.C., and the politics of the Super Bowl. (Recorded live in Washington, D.C.)
On this special episode of The Reason Roundtable, editors Peter Suderman, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, and Matt Welch are live from Washington, D.C., to discuss growing concerns about the Trump administration's rhetoric around elections. They dig into President Donald Trump's call to "nationalize" elections, the administration's pressure on states over voter data, and how those moves fit alongside January 6 and earlier efforts to overturn election results. The group debates how worried Americans should be about centralized election control and what it would mean for democratic legitimacy if one party gained greater authority over the voting process.
The discussion then moves on to assess Trump's first year back in office, with each panelist reflecting on what concerns them most and what, if anything, they've liked from this administration. Suderman then turns the federal budget into a live guessing game of "How Much Did That Cost?" From there, the editors discuss Washington, D.C., itself, and the state of city governance, before analyzing the Super Bowl and the culture-war expectations around the halftime show.
0:00—Trump wants to nationalize elections
6:10—Reviewing the first year of Trump's second term
14:47—How much did that cost?
18:54—Governance in Washington, D.C.
27:24—Culture wars and the Super Bowl
36:44—Cultural recommendations
- Producer: Paul Alexander
- Audio Mixer: Ian Keyser
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Where were you guys asking this five years ago when the Democrats tried it?
Regardless, we do need some kind of security in our elections, and that means IDs, paper ballots, and no damned voting machines. No mail-in voting either. Vote that day or get an absentee ballot (for a justifiable reason) and get it in before election day. No more bullshit.
We won't know if an election is legit or not unless you (yes, you personally) are permitted to count each and every ballot yourself. Then and only then will we have secure elections!
Why YES, YES. Republicans DO want lawful ?control? over elections.
Instead of, and I quote Biden, "the most extensive and inclusive voter FRAUD organization in the history of American politics." loaded with illegal immigrant votes (hut hum: NYC), dead people votes, mystery midnight mail votes, etc, etc, etc....
As-if [D]emon-crap didn't literally have a consistent record of Self-Projecting every criminal-agenda they've been up-to. Practically every accusation out of their mouths has proven to be nothing but an admission of guilt.
Most obvious Point & Case: The 'rich' is STEALING from everyone ... actually means [WE] want to STEAL from those 'icky' rich people. See how that works. You mindlessly BLAME the victim before committing the crime.
Do Democrats and Reason "libertarians" want rampant, unchecked and unquantifiable fraud and corruption in our system? Why yes, yes they do apparently given their stances.
Unfortunately, it would take a Constitutional amendment to impose secure elections on the states.
No it wouldn't. Congress can already issue uniform rules for all states per the constitution.
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
Hence the SAVE act.
What do you mean by "control"? Is it to control the outcomes, or to control who votes and how, when and where they vote? The latter does seem like a proper function of government (though it should be mostly at the state level, ideally, as the states run elections).
Yes it is to control the outcomes, in part. They gin up fake stories of "massive fraud" in order to justify making voting harder.
How easy should it be? I don't see a problem with requiring people who are able to do so to go to the polls on election day if they want to vote. Or requiring ID. Or to require absentee ballots to be received by election day. I don't think it should be unnecessarily difficult to vote, but that doesn't mean we have to make it so easy that people who don't actually care or pay attention will be more likely to vote. And mass use of absentee ballots is really open to fraudulent voting.
Jeff os on the wrong side of the issue. 71% of democrats even are for voter ID. A majority of each minority group supports it.
Jeff fears losing vectors of fraud.
Easiest way to eliminate the pathetic need to control elections is to eliminate elections.
Random selection of 'winners' from the voter registration roll. Can always argue about 'random' but the law of large numbers never loses so that argument is pointless
Do Republicans want to control elections? No.
Republicans want to free elections from Democrat/Leftist control.
Same day voting and picture ID does that.
And it frees it from GOP/right control as well.
The right is okay with this.
Because, free from leftist control, elections tend, overall, to go in directions the right and Republicans, AND actual libertarians like.
Same Day voting is just a way to ensure that only people who have flexible jobs and reliable transportation are allowed to vote.
I can't imagine why old white people would push for this.
Next step is to arrest all the brown people on their way to the polls, and then release them the next day. Oops!
I have a better idea. Require a college degree so that only thoughtful, educated people can vote, and then cap the voting age at 65 because old no longer have any skin in the game.
Democrats wouldn't control this process, so I'm sure Republicans will support it.
Shocking. Leftist dumbass goes with the arresting minorities angle. Please keep the racism of the white savior and dumb minorities alive.
It was Bannon who bought it up and the White House has not ruled it out.
Require a college degree so that only thoughtful, educated people can vote
Does not follow.
Heinlein proposed requiring voters to solve a quadratic equation before getting their ballot. This would eliminate typical college grads from the voting pool.
All the news from maddow that's fit to print.
Yes. Asking only legal citizens vote is control. What an asinine statement or even conjecture.
I remember what side reason was on when obama sued Arizona to force them to accept federal voting forms without proof of citizenship.
I love their usual "1/6 was an attempt to overturn an election".
Not a protest that went a bit awry (less so than Minneapolis this year or virtually every protest in 2020), but an outright insurrection.
At this point, let Reason stay in DC. Don't allow these jock-sniffers for big government to go elsewhere.
J6 was the culmination of a weeks long attempted coup.
Truth is US elections are pretty good. Voter fraud is very rare and ballots are counted correctly. We know what works; mail voting is well established and secure and fill-in-the-bubble ballots are far better than touch screen. The very low voter fraud rate shows that voter ID is not needed, nor is proof of citizenship. If we were a functional democracy, we should be focused on lessons learned in order to make it as easy for eligible voters to vote.
Instead Rs peddle lies and conspiracy theories in order to pass laws that make it hard for eligible voters to vote. They are also gearing up to fuck with the 2026 election results if they don't like who wins. Given the massive lies and crimes the Rs committed in 2020 in an attempt to install an unelected president, this should scare the shit out of any reasonable person.
It is not rare. And it is not counted correctly. We see errors in every election. 2 recent elections have been overturned due to fraud. Fraud is rampant in each election. You lie as usual china Tony.
Easy to find no fraud when you specifically do not look for it.
Just like nobody in the Democrat South were a card-carrying member of the KKK.
The 2020 election was the most audited in history, and by very partisan people. And they found nothing of significance.
To answer the question, yes, of course, don't you?
Unless you engage in democracy as sport, you should absolutely want to rig it in your favor — bypassing it completely to the extent possible by cheating or whatever.
One side wants to nationalize elections to control them.
The other side wants no voter verification, ballot harvesting, and allowing people to 'vouch' for other voters to control them.