Tom Woods: The COVID Lessons We Can't Forget
The historian and podcaster joins us on the five-year anniversary of the COVID-19 emergency to relive all the pandemic policy failures.
Sources Referenced:
- Diary of a Psychosis: How Public Health Disgraced Itself During COVID Mania, by Tom Woods
- Sweden during the Pandemic, by the Cato Institute
- "A Soho Forum Discussion of COVID with Tom Woods"
- Just Asking Questions with Johan Norberg: "The truth about Sweden's COVID policy"
- Just Asking Questions with Thierry Mallaret: "Is The Great Reset underway?"
- Follow The Science documentary series
- "Were the COVID-19 Lockdowns a Mistake?" by Zach Weissmueller
- Have Deaths of Despair Risen during the COVID-19 Pandemic? A Systematic Review
- Global tuberculosis report 2024 by the World Health Organization
- The Great Barrington Declaration
- Just Asking Questions with Vinay Prasad: "What are RFK Jr.'s real views on vaccines, diet, and health?"
- Then-U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams' archived tweet, February 2020
Chapters:
- 00:00 Introduction: What have we learned from COVID?
- 04:30 The early days: Panic, lockdowns, and initial reactions
- 10:15 Florida vs. California: The great COVID policy divide
- 16:45 The unseen costs: Lockdowns, economy, and mental health
- 23:30 The vaccine debate: Mandates, coercion, and public trust
- 30:20 The science debate: Experts, models, and misleading predictions
- 37:15 Masks, symbolism, and political messaging
- 44:00 Australia, New Zealand, and the global COVID response
- 50:45 Federalism & freedom: Why some states resisted COVID rules
- 57:30 What comes next? Preparing for the next health crisis
- 1:04:00 Final thoughts: The lessons we must remember
- Producer: John Osterhoudt
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You better believe I'm listening to this one.
Reason in the Age of Nick and Matt wouldn't have missed the opportunity to tag Woods as a Neo-confederate.
"COVID accountability"? I thought we were just supposed to forgive the COVID Fascists and sing Kum By Ya.
“Don’t mention the wa.,, I mean don’t mention Covid!”
From JAQ...Zach Weissmueller 'radicalized' on a South FL beach, from the culture shock of going from CA to FL in 2021 when FL was open and CA was not. That was amusing.
That's why they can't have anyone not taking the vaccine, not locking down, not remote learning. It's a control group that shows the folly of what blue areas are doing.
The episode was good. Parts of JAQ seemed haphazard, and wasn't sure if it was b/c better sequencing of questions was needed. Practice makes perfect.
We all lived it 5 years ago. What happened back then wrt trampling our civil liberties was inexcusable. Cannot let that trampling happen again.
The most important lessons from the fake COVID crisis is the government can shut you down, shut you up, destroy your business(es), bankrupt you "for your own good."
"The alibi of tyrants is always the welfare of humanity." - Albert Camus
Like the dumb shits who write here know who he is.
The most important lesson of covid was exposing the fake libertarians who joined in justifying lockdowns, masking, censorship and vaccine mandates.
what are the lessons of the COVID-19 pandemic?
There wasn't a pandemic. It was made up.
Plandemic.
You think 1.2 M Americans and far more around the world died just to make a hoax?
You think 1.2M Americans and far more around the world died of COVID, Jake?
The virus was real. We know now that it was almost certainly built in a Chinese govt lab in Wuhan (most likely, the WIV), probably negligently released into the public by researchers there, who had engaged in sloppy lab techniques (more likely due to their form of socialism), and part of the funding came from the US government, thanks to Dr Fauci.
But that isn’t the issue under discussion. Rather, the issue is whether the draconian steps implemented by government saved lives, and there is little, if any evidence, that any of them did, and significant evidence that some, esp the ModRNA vaccines, killed many more than they saved, if they saved any lives at all.
These ModRNA vaccines might have been helpful, if they ad been administered properly - only to those most vulnerable. The virus posed essentially zero risk to kids - killing fewer than one in a million of those under 20 who were infected. The risk of the virus increased slowly, then exponentially, as the patients got older, with those older than, say, 70, shouldering almost all of the risk of death. Add in those with multiple comorbidities, and you have almost all of the vulnerable population.
So, what did they do? They mandated the vaccines down into the under 20 year olds (= 5 times) were those people who had been fully and repeatedly “boosted”. And those repeated reinfections are why the ModRNA vaccines probably allowed the virus to kill more people than if it had never been utilized (and ignoring how many others, likely millions in this country, killed by the vaccines’s side effects).
It saved 50k people in the United States from dieing of the flu. It was a miracle. First time in the last 50 years anything has saved so many people from flu deaths.
I want revenge. I want tribunals. I want to see various "health officials" sentenced to 50 years in prison.
I personally know of teen suicides from this disaster. These evil people need to be punished and I'm all for maximum pain inflicted so this never happens again.
Yep. That.
And suicides are just the tip of the iceberg. This hoax facilitated divorces, destruction of businesses, the wrecking of early education, literally killing those in elder care. It broke up families. It destroyed small towns. It caused untold amounts of addiction and depression and mental health afflictions.
Every single person who supported COVID policies - Republican or Democrat - should be put up against a wall and executed. I am the most anti-abortion anti-death penalty person you will ever meet - but those responsible for or supportive of COVID lockdowns should all be mercilessly killed and thrown in a mass grave that we all make an annual pilgrimage to take a piss on.
The entire world would be a better place without every single one of them.
There aren't enough stake burnings.
Wood chippers don't make all that nasty smoke.
Cmon man. Stakes are up 25% due to tariffs. The proper reason libertarian response is to quietly complain, publicly condone, and never respond.
We could strap them to the tower of the IVANPAH solar plant. A clean renewable version of a stake burning.
The concept of lockdowns came from a 14-year-old girl's science fair project.
Did he call out this fucking rag for their shit-tier support of TEH SCIENCE! ?
The only lesson is the one being ignored.
We must remove "emergency" powers from the executive.
If the legislature can't get it done, it's every man for himself
(that certainly can't be worse)
Didn't you and I have this discussion 4 years ago? Like what's an emergency? A weekend? A week? A month? I figured an emergency could exist, but there has to be a limit, and that limit is definitely not two years or "whenever we decide."
It's very short. Basically only long enough for the legislature to convene and begin doing their jobs at the most.
We might also take time to contemplate the flag of The Commonwealth of Virginia.
Wardrobe malfunction?