César Báez and Daniel Di Martino: What Happened in Venezuela's Election?
Two Venezuelan immigrants explain the current political unrest in the country.
What's really happening in Venezuela?
Nicolás Maduro claimed victory in Venezuela's presidential election last month, but much of the rest of the world isn't buying it. Neither are many Venezuelans, who've taken to the streets to protest what they say is a fraudulent election in the face of increasingly violent crackdowns and menacing threats from the Maduro regime.
The opposition says its tallies show it won 67 percent of the vote. Official statements from the European Union and U.S. State Department each say the evidence shows Maduro lost. Argentina's Javier Milei posted to X minutes after the polls closed: "Argentina is not going to recognize another fraud, and hopes that the Armed Forces this time will defend democracy and the popular will."
To help us understand how Venezuela ended up here and what might happen next, we've brought on two of our trusted Venezuelan analysts, Daniel Di Martino and César Báez.
Di Martino is a Venezuelan-American who founded the Dissident Project and is a fellow at the Manhattan Institute. Báez is a producer at Reason, and he writes about liberty in Latin America on his Substack, Espacio de Libertad.
Sources referenced in this conversation:
- Venezuelan presidential race results as tabulated from digital records by the opposition party
- Milei calls for the ousting of Maduro on X
- Opposition party leader María Corina Machado's post-election message "for the future of the Republic"
- U.S. State Department: "Assessing the Results of Venezuela's Presidential Election"
- The New York Times says that Venezuela suffers from "brutal capitalism"
- Daniel Di Martino: "How Socialism Destroyed Venezuela"
- The E.U.'s statement on Venezuela's election
- Producer: John Osterhoudt
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Article reported for election denialism...
No widespread fraud. Just a single country.
It was fortified.
"Neither are many Venezuelans, who've taken to the streets to protest what they say is a fraudulent election in the face of increasingly violent crackdowns and menacing threats from the Maduro regime."
Sounds a little...insurrectiony.
" What Happened in Venezuela's Election?"
The same thing happened in the last Venezuelan election.
Maduro "won" with the help of Dominion voting machines that are made in the land of freedom and opportunity called "The Peoples' Republic of China."
Er ... um ... hanging chads?
Hanging Chads, Juans, Albertos, Juanitas, Abulitas, whatever it takes.
The same "Dominion voting machines" which allowed the opposition to prove that the official count did not reflect the actual count? Seems like Maduro is owed a refund!
Refusing to accept the fraud is one thing, but doing something about it is something else entirely. I suppose our government could refuse to recognize Maduro's government and "recall" our ambassador. That's the most I'm willing to accept from the U.S. government in response. Of course I would like our government to recall ALL of our ambassadors and shut down all of our embassies around the world permanently, but that's a different issue.
And what of our government's ambassador to Washington DC?
The thing is, what the fuck is the US going to do in response? Throw a fit and pass some sanctions, which will just lead to more Venezuelan migrants, including gang members, coming up here to claim "asylum"?
The fact Maduro's running the same post-election playbook as the Dems did in 2020 is ultimately what makes this so funny.
Perhaps the Venezuelans will set an example by overthrowing their government and expecting all the Marxists.
Expecting all the Marxists to do what?
Maybe he meant: “Eviscerate all the marxists”?
execute all marxists?
excise all marxists?
Exorcise?
What are the two men's economic backgrounds, including the dude who runs "The Dissident Project"? Also, what are their current funding sources, NED or other CIA-linked NGOs perhaps?
Elections will always devolve to oligarchic failure. The solution is sortition as everyone from Aristotle to Montesquieu – from Athens to the medieval European republics understood.
No need to argue about what exit polls really say about what voters want. The law of large numbers will produce a partition based assembly that matches the real exit poll. And liquid democracy (admittedly perhaps too technocratic) can help deal with notions of 'consent'
Good luck with that. It would just need a kind of "vanguard" of the people, which can overcome the uninformed opposition with overwhelming force, replace popular voting with sortition, and then fade away...
What do the fact that they are ostensibly legal immigrants have to do with the price of tea in China?
What happened in Venesuela? Cleanest and most secure election in history according to the standards set in 2020 and vociferously cheered by Reason.
When did Reason's comments section get overrun by election denying Trump supporters?
Maduro is referred to as a dictator by the US media. His socialist politics? Ignore that. Socialism is wonderful but ruined by bad people and capitalism. See Cuba as another example. And China, USSR, N. Korea, could be paradises if it weren't for the tyranny and capitalism.
If only we had socialism enforced worldwide, oh wait, not completely. We need a little capitalism to blame for economic failures.