Stan Lee Co-author Kat Rosenfield on Rise of Cancel Culture in the Literary World
Trick of Light collaborator talks about working with a legend, the failings of online community, and the rise of cancel culture in the literary world.

When Stan Lee, the legendary head of Marvel Comics for decades and the co-creator of iconic comic-book titles such as The Fantastic Four, The X-Men, and Spider-Man, died last November, he wasn't quite done producing content. His final work, A Trick of Light, was released earlier this year as an audio book and the print and e-book versions come out next week, on September 17 (pre-order here).
Co-authored by Kat Rosenfield, A Trick of Light is a complex and compelling story that follows the adventures of Cameron, a high-school senior and would-be YouTube star who gains superpowers after a freak accident on Lake Erie, and Nia, a teenage hacker shrouded in mystery. It's a meditation on virtual and augmented reality and how the internet has in many ways failed to deliver on its promise of connecting us in new and more profound ways. "The amazing (and also terrible!) thing about the internet is that it's changing the way we relate to each other, even to the point of warping our own sense of who we are," Rosenfield told Teen Vogue when the audio book came out. "Cameron and Nia are struggling with the same questions and anxieties that we all experience as a result of inhabiting digital spaces, where identity and reality become malleable."
For today's Reason Podcast, Nick Gillespie talks with Rosenfield, the author of the highly acclaimed young-adult novels Amelia Anne Is Dead and Gone and Inland, a former reporter for MTV News, and a contributor to New York magazine, Wired, and Playboy (follow her on Twitter and Instagram). She talks about working with Stan Lee, how online culture has changed the way we relate to one another for both good and bad, and why pernicious forms of "cancel culture" and identity politics are flourishing in literary culture.
Audio production by Ian Keyser and Regan Taylor.
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Wat? The internet has connected us in the most profound way possible - its allowed so many people to be their truest selves during inter-personal communicaton. No other means of communication has had such a profound affect on human discourse and interaction. Couples spend years together, raise children together, before they can overcome the innate fear of rejection and ridicule humans have to allow this level of emotional intimacy. The internet strips away all the masks we are used to wearing and everyone sees us for who we really are through our online interactions.
Its just that we're all raging fuckwads, emotionally unstable, desperate for herd acceptance, completely amoral, and with the intellectual capability of a chimpanzee.
I truly suspect that at least half the people I interact with online are p-zombies given the complete lack of consistency of principles and shame they exhibit.
"Cameron and Nia are struggling with the same questions and anxieties that we all experience as a result of inhabiting digital spaces, where identity and reality become malleable."
I have trouble believing Stan Lee considered reality and identity to be largely or completely unmalleable outside the digital realm.
There are no mild-mannered reporters in real life.
and they certainly can't afford high end rooftop apartments downtown.
its allowed so many people to be their truest selves during inter-personal communicaton
I think that's the problem.
This goes to the core of why we need to put a stop to some of the "Internet freedom" baloney we keep hearing about from the "first amendment community" (ha-ha-ha). Here at NYU, we will continue to collaborate with the appropriate authorities in enforcing our nation's "true self" laws, in line with the decisive action we took in litigating America's leading criminal "parody" case. See the documentation at:
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It may be a problem - and I think it is - but that doesn't change the fact that, contrary to Gillespie's assertion, the internet has connected us in new and more profound ways.
The internet strips away all the masks we are used to wearing and everyone sees us for who we really are through our online interactions.
+1 photoshopped Instagram model/Twitch THOT.
Ok, maybe the Twitch THOT is a bad example... their awful true selves often come out at some point.
And this person shows you that they are the sort of person to use those tools to show you the sort of person they think they are or aspire to be - vain, vapid, self-centered and self-absorbed, and amazingly scared.
What do you have against chimpanzees? Sounds like you have a case of speciesism there bub.
Just being against chimpanzees because of their dumb name is good enuff reason for me.
Sounds about right. Though I don't know what a "p-zombie" is.
And to be a little less cynical, there are also plenty of more selective online communities that are pretty decent and interesting.
You can't understate Stan the man's contribution to comics and pop culture prior to 1975 (I pick that year somewhat arbitrarily...I'm sure there's a better year based on Editor changes at Marvel).
After 1975? Not so much. He spent 40 years trying to recreate the original Marvel magic. I can't point to anything that ever caught anyone's imagination.
the adventures of Cameron, a high-school senior and would-be YouTube star who gains superpowers after a freak accident on Lake Erie
What did she do, stick her toe in the water? Get bit by a radioactive sheephead (a fish commonly found in Lake Erie)?
Gotten by a Gobi.
Can't say I ever saw a Gobi on the Great Lakes. Looks like a pretty pointless fish.
Tricked into drinking the water?
Get bit by a radioactive sheephead (a fish commonly found in Lake Erie)?
No joke, *he* (you mis-gendering bigoted SOB) gets trapped in the "Great Lakes Triangle". I hope Stan got his money's worth putting his name on this one.
Chappelle for President.
Power to the funny people.
I liked this novel back when it was called Ready, Player One.
Would.
"...the internet has in many ways failed to deliver on its promise of connecting us in new and more profound ways."
Well yeah. The internet allows us to tell huge whoppers and insult people we've never met, in complete anonymity from the comfort and safety of our basements.
Who the heck is this Kat Rosenfield individual? I've never heard of her.
How about we use the internet to ruin her life by utilizing platforms owned by corporations that are immune to any liability resulting from our actions?
I promised myself not to lie anymore so if someone wants to say something about her that is not true but scandalous I'll repeat it and say it was something I read online so I'm technically telling the truth.
Being connected to so many other humans is awesome, isn't it?
Kat Rosenfield so beautiful, i like it
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